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Cocytus
02/13/24 2:17:03 PM
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Anywhere in the US.

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02/13/24 2:19:49 PM
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It's cringe.

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Baha05
02/13/24 2:20:05 PM
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No because there is really no point in it and would just lead to unnecessary deaths either by each other or by the police.

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Mussurana
02/13/24 2:20:08 PM
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Well I voted no, on the grounds that no one should need to be carrying a deadly weapon.

On reflection I would prefer open to concealed carry though. At least with the former you know they've got it; you know before you try to calm the angry drunk.

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Gobstoppers12
02/13/24 2:20:17 PM
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Yes, absolutely.

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NoxObscuras
02/13/24 2:20:52 PM
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No. Less guns is the solution

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Guide
02/13/24 2:21:07 PM
#7:


Mussurana posted...


On reflection I would prefer open to concealed carry though. At least with the former you know they've got it; you know before you try to calm the angry drunk.

This has always been my stance. If someone has a gun on them, I wanna know.


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Mussurana
02/13/24 2:27:28 PM
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Guide posted...
This has always been my stance. If someone has a gun on them, I wanna know.
Indeed, mind you in my world they'd be locked up for carrying it over a specified blood/alcohol/other drugs limit.

Probably military service thing, I think of them as a tool, not a lifestyle choice. If the job you are doing (not just military, could be farming, hunting, target shooting recreation) doesn't require it, keep it locked up safe.

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MagnusX
02/13/24 2:31:00 PM
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Most citizens have no need for any guns and there should be significantly less in the US. Open carry is beyond stupid.
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ai123
02/13/24 2:32:23 PM
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No.

Makes you look like a prick.

Vastly increases your chances of being shot.

Believing that you're safe only when everyone is in a Mexican standoff with everyone else is fucking mental.

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Smackems
02/13/24 2:32:37 PM
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Idk bout open carry. But concealed shouldn't cost so much for me specifically

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Guide
02/13/24 2:33:00 PM
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MagnusX posted...
Most citizens have no need for any guns and there should be significantly less in the US. Open carry is beyond stupid.

But in the current system, where people can and do carry guns on them, wouldn't you rather know they had it?

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electricbugs2
02/13/24 2:34:58 PM
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Absolutely.

Cant say I would open carry myself, but people should be allowed to do what they want.

Unless the open carrier is actively shooting at random, mind your own business and move on.

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ellis123
02/13/24 2:36:53 PM
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Only the ones that have no interest in doing so.

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Mussurana
02/13/24 2:37:18 PM
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Guide posted...
But in the current system, where people can and do carry guns on them, wouldn't you rather know they had it?
Rather no one carried (except for those with specific job or recreation reasons), but yes.

Open carry can at least be a deterrent and maybe prevent confrontation, concealed almost guarantees escalation.

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theAteam
02/13/24 2:42:43 PM
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Mussurana posted...
Indeed, mind you in my world they'd be locked up for carrying it over a specified blood/alcohol/other drugs limit.

I think this is a law in a lot of places.

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Samurai_Man
02/13/24 2:45:09 PM
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Open-Carry is probably the stupidest thing you can do

Never understand the reasoning behind it, makes you a prime first target for any bad guy with a gun

I've been conceal carrying daily for 10+ years and never once has the thought of open-carrying crossed my mind.

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Mussurana
02/13/24 2:47:13 PM
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theAteam posted...
I think this is a law in a lot of places.
I should hope so, but isn't it a terrible infringement on 2nd amendment rights? ;)

Obviously I feel that any hint of alcohol on your breath whilst in possession of a firearm should result in you being kicked into a fire trench and jumped up and down on by a weighty corporal.

But I'm old ;)

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R1masher
02/13/24 2:48:38 PM
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Yes, its la functional accessory like a purse

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thisworld
02/13/24 2:58:39 PM
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Guide posted...
But in the current system, where people can and do carry guns on them, wouldn't you rather know they had it?

Legit question. So about guns, even a concealed Derringer in a woman's purse is dangerous enough, right?

If your peace of mind somehow depends on knowing whether everyone else around you is carrying a gun or not, wouldn't it be much safer and easier for you to just simply assume that everyone does and then act accordingly?
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Mussurana
02/13/24 2:59:38 PM
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thisworld posted...
Legit question. So about guns, even a concealed Derringer in a woman's purse is dangerous enough, right?

If your peace of mind somehow depends on knowing whether everyone else around you is carrying a gun or not, wouldn't it be much safer and easier for you to just simply assume that everyone does and then act accordingly?
You are technically correct, but it's a depressing reality.

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Tenlaar
02/13/24 3:00:49 PM
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I believe that open carry should be legal and also that the kinds of guns that people can have to open carry should be severely limited and very well regulated.
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Guide
02/13/24 3:01:51 PM
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thisworld posted...
Legit question. So about guns, even a concealed Derringer in a woman's purse is dangerous enough, right?

If your peace of mind somehow depends on knowing whether everyone else around you is carrying a gun or not, wouldn't it be much safer and easier for you to just simply assume that everyone does and then act accordingly?

I feel a bit called out, because I do actually constantly consider this all the time. I'm not pulling tactical maneuvers on my walk down to the library or anything, but it is constantly in the back of my mind.

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Mussurana
02/13/24 3:07:38 PM
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Guide posted...
I feel a bit called out, because I do actually constantly consider this all the time. I'm not pulling tactical maneuvers on my walk down to the library or anything, but it is constantly in the back of my mind.
It's legitimately a culture shock to hear that. I can honestly say I have never walked down the street and considered that the people I see might be armed.

(Disregarding time on operations in places with lots of sand, but I was openly armed in those cases.)

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Guide
02/13/24 3:14:49 PM
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Mussurana posted...


(Disregarding time on operations in places with lots of sand, but I was openly armed in those cases.)

Huh, I figured that kind of experience would give you more concern for such things.

But no, I reached the same conclusion as you did at a young age, and just never let it go. It's not just guns, but like, what is this guy decides to throw that glass at me, or what if the entrance is blocked, etc.

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Spurner
02/13/24 3:35:00 PM
#27:


A few years ago, I was standing in line behind someone open carrying on their hip, no clasp or anything. If I had wanted to, I could have popped that thing right out of there before he would have been able to react. That was a bit of an eye opener.

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Mussurana
02/13/24 3:43:45 PM
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Guide posted...
Huh, I figured that kind of experience would give you more concern for such things.
It's about expectation.

It's not like I think everywhere in the UK is 100% safe, but much like I suspect you do, I know enough about my country to make a decent risk assessment about where I am, and where I'm going.

Even so, it's difficult to think of anywhere outside of perhaps Belfast, where I'd be seriously considering an armed cuvilian presence.

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Roachmeat
02/13/24 3:44:31 PM
#29:


'No'

Gives a (convenience) store owner even more reason to look uneasily at people when they enter just for a 7-up. Don't even get me started on banks.

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Mussurana
02/13/24 4:04:13 PM
#30:


Guide posted...
Huh, I figured that kind of experience would give you more concern for such things.
I've been thinking about what you said and would like to modify/nuance my answer.

I'm reminded of an incident rolling into Iraq in 2003 (it won't appear in any news reels, not secret, just inconsequential), I was supporting a medical unit and so in military terms lightly armed with personal defence weapons. (Nb, for civvies means service rifles, so fully automatic weaponry.)

As such we were following the infantry line of advance, with a view to setting up our medical/decontamination (we were working under the assumption that chemical weapons would be used against us) facility when we happened upon a few Iraqi gentlemen attempting to retrieve their broken down vehicle by means of a tow truck.

They were allowed passage through our column, but as I was standing rearguard I thought I would send them off with a friendly wave. Didn't go terribly well, they stopped again in fear (understandable). Happily I was quickly able to to convince them to go on their way (I hope they survived hostilities, I do think about them from time to time).

What this taught me was that carrying a weapon puts people in fear of you, and that should be a heavy responsibility.

One I personally don't wish for outside of designated duties.

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firedoom666
02/13/24 4:06:24 PM
#31:


I don't even think citizens should own guns. The 2nd ammendment was a huge mistake

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trappedunderice
02/13/24 4:06:56 PM
#32:


Hell yea brother, it's our second amendment right
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Torgo
02/13/24 4:08:38 PM
#33:


No.

As much as I love old west movies... it's a lot like zombie movies - it's a cool setting for fiction but I wouldn't actually want to live like that.

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Torgo
02/13/24 4:09:28 PM
#34:


trappedunderice posted...
Hell yea brother, it's our second amendment right

Your militia did not meet regulations. I've seen better regulated militias at Ren Fairs...

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andel
02/13/24 4:09:45 PM
#35:


open carry is pointless. concealed carrying is understandable

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Prestoff
02/13/24 4:12:05 PM
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If I had in my way, heavy gun ban all around like any other first world country does. But since we're living in a country that has a gun-worshipping culture, I'm fine with open carry but I honestly would think it be smarter to conceal carry. If a person were to shoot up a place, you would be their first target if you open carry a weapon around.

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electricbugs2
02/13/24 4:12:56 PM
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Prestoff posted...
heavy gun ban all around like any other first world country does.
Who's going to tell him?

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02/13/24 4:14:52 PM
#38:


MagnusX posted...
Most citizens have no need for any guns and there should be significantly less in the US. Open carry is beyond stupid.


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Trumble
02/13/24 4:15:38 PM
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If you're already accepting the premise of people having guns for self defence, it's much safer if those guns are concealed, making it harder to specifically target someone who doesn't have one (as offenders wouldn't know who does or doesn't have one).

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gatorsPENSbucs
02/13/24 4:15:57 PM
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Dont think anyone should have one in general

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Mussurana
02/13/24 4:17:04 PM
#41:


andel posted...
open carry is pointless. concealed carrying is understandable
I feel the opposite, although I don't agree with either.

My experiences tell me that carrying a weapon openly (not like there's a choice with a service rifle) does put people in fear.

But the potential that anyone might be carrying? That's so much worse (now you must assume that everyone is armed).

At least with open their cards are on the table.

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crayola555
02/13/24 4:19:35 PM
#42:


Of course this being a primarily USA website, there's idiots voting yes

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NoxObscuras
02/13/24 4:23:43 PM
#43:


Mussurana posted...
I feel the opposite, although I don't agree with either.

My experiences tell me that carrying a weapon openly (not like there's a choice with a service rifle) does put people in fear.

But the potential that anyone might be carrying? That's so much worse (now you must assume that everyone is armed).

At least with open their cards are on the table.
True, but for me, I'd rather things change so that no one is just walking around with guns, concealed or not. Then you don't have to worry about who's armed

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electricbugs2
02/13/24 4:23:57 PM
#44:


crayola555 posted...
Of course this being a primarily USA website, there's idiots voting yes
I'm Canadian and voted yes sooo...

Also the US isn't the only country with open/conceal carry laws.

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Mussurana
02/13/24 4:25:03 PM
#45:


NoxObscuras posted...
True, but for me, I'd rather things change so that no one is just walking around with guns, concealed or not. Then you don't have to worry about who's armed
With you there, but the scope of the poll is narrow.

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crayola555
02/13/24 4:27:26 PM
#46:


electricbugs2 posted...
I'm Canadian and voted yes sooo...

Also the US isn't the only country with open/conceal carry laws.

I said primarily usa, didn't mean everybody voting was only from there

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EPR-radar
02/13/24 4:30:30 PM
#47:


firedoom666 posted...
... The 2nd ammendment was a huge mistake
This. Recent right wing nut job rulings by partisan hack judges have turned the second amendment from a mostly harmless historical quirk to a curse on the nation.

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Prestoff
02/13/24 4:31:20 PM
#48:


NoxObscuras posted...
True, but for me, I'd rather things change so that no one is just walking around with guns, concealed or not. Then you don't have to worry about who's armed

I mean even living here in the states, that's kind of how I live my life. I don't actually think about people conceal carrying their fire arms or not. With that said, I do have a cousin who used to be part of the military that gets paranoid about this type of stuff though.

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crayola555
02/13/24 4:37:24 PM
#49:


Actually I'm misreading the TC question. Are we talking about making people who owns guns be mandated to open carry, or it's just they have the right to do that or not?

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Guide
02/13/24 4:47:57 PM
#50:


Mussurana posted...
I've been thinking about what you said and would like to modify/nuance my answer.

I'm reminded of an incident rolling into Iraq in 2003 (it won't appear in any news reels, not secret, just inconsequential), I was supporting a medical unit and so in military terms lightly armed with personal defence weapons. (Nb, for civvies means service rifles, so fully automatic weaponry.)

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What this taught me was that carrying a weapon puts people in fear of you, and that should be a heavy responsibility.

One I personally don't wish for outside of designated duties.

That's an angle I hadn't considered. I think I would still prefer to know, but I see now how the illusion of safety can be a good thing for social mentality.


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