Current Events > Do you believe citizens should be allowed to open carry guns?

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Mussurana 02/13/24 4:50:24 PM #52:	Guide posted... That's an angle I hadn't considered. I think I would still prefer to know, but I see now how the illusion of safety can be a good thing for social mentality. It isn't really an illusion, the odds of someone carrying here are really that low as to be negligible. (Within certain parameters I'll grant you.) --- System error, signature not found. <cite>Mussurana posted [p:978826151] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote>That's an angle I hadn't considered. I think I would still prefer to know, but I see now how the illusion of safety can be a good thing for social mentality.</quote>It isn't really an illusion, the odds of someone carrying here are really that low as to be negligible. (Within certain parameters I'll grant you.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/13/24 8:07:45 PM #53:	thisworld posted... Legit question. So about guns, even a concealed Derringer in a woman's purse is dangerous enough, right? If your peace of mind somehow depends on knowing whether everyone else around you is carrying a gun or not, wouldn't it be much safer and easier for you to just simply assume that everyone does and then act accordingly? I think it's important to note too that just because if it were to be a true thing not everyone will carry, not the whole population. I wonder if as many as 50% of the population would if it were a real thing. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978829300] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>thisworld posted... </cite><quote>Legit question. So about guns, even a concealed Derringer in a woman's purse is dangerous enough, right?If your peace of mind somehow depends on knowing whether everyone else around you is carrying a gun or not, wouldn't it be much safer and easier for you to just simply assume that everyone does and then act accordingly?</quote>I think it's important to note too that just because if it were to be a true thing not everyone will carry, not the whole population. I wonder if as many as 50% of the population would if it were a real thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/14/24 10:46:45 AM #54:	So mostly no, but for some CEman, from their cold, dead hands! --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978838203] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>So mostly no, but for some CEman, from their cold, dead hands! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
texanfan27 02/14/24 10:49:42 AM #55:	No, but I support concealed carry and gun control laws --- I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups. <cite>texanfan27 posted [p:978838250] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>No, but I support concealed carry and gun control laws </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
texanfan27 02/14/24 10:59:00 AM #56:	Mussurana posted... Rather no one carried (except for those with specific job or recreation reasons), but yes. Open carry can at least be a deterrent and maybe prevent confrontation, concealed almost guarantees escalation. you have it backwards, open escalates conflict far for worse. By open carrying you ar saying I will shoot you if needed, it gives validation to defending yourself from that person with lethal force. Concealed serves as a deterrent, but by being unseen, it isnt a factor till used. but to be honest, most gun related incidents you see on the news are failure of conflict resolution and lack of training. --- I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups. <cite>texanfan27 posted [p:978838405] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Mussurana posted... </cite><quote>Rather no one carried (except for those with specific job or recreation reasons), but yes.Open carry can at least be a deterrent and maybe prevent confrontation, concealed almost guarantees escalation.</quote>you have it backwards, open escalates conflict far for worse. By open carrying you ar saying I will shoot you if needed, it gives validation to defending yourself from that person with lethal force. Concealed serves as a deterrent, but by being unseen, it isnt a factor till used. but to be honest, most gun related incidents you see on the news are failure of conflict resolution and lack of training. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/14/24 11:35:25 AM #57:	electricbugs2 posted... Unless the open carrier is actively shooting at random, mind your own business and move on. That's the neat part: they aren't until the moment they are. And then people are already dead. And people with an itch to show off how big their gun is in public will be, in my estimation, more likely than not to want to prove that to someone in a confrontation. People who open carry, even in accordance with current law, are not people I'd consider responsible gun owners. Mussurana posted... Open carry can at least be a deterrent and maybe prevent confrontation, concealed almost guarantees escalation. Open carry is a provocation at best, and painting a target on yourself (either for a shooter or for a cop who "mistook" you for a shooter) at worst. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:978839133] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>electricbugs2 posted... </cite><quote>Unless the open carrier is actively shooting at random, mind your own business and move on.</quote>That's the neat part: they aren't until the moment they are. And then people are already dead.And people with an itch to show off how big their gun is in public will be, in my estimation, more likely than not to want to prove that to someone in a confrontation. People who open carry, even in accordance with current law, are not people I'd consider responsible gun owners. Mussurana posted... </cite><quote>Open carry can at least be a deterrent and maybe prevent confrontation, concealed almost guarantees escalation.</quote>Open carry is a provocation at best, and painting a target on yourself (either for a shooter or for a cop who "mistook" you for a shooter) at worst. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/14/24 11:44:51 AM #58:	firedoom666 posted... I don't even think citizens should own guns. The 2nd ammendment was a huge mistake "Bearing arms" wasn't technically about owning a gun as much as wielding it (in part because they had armoriesfor their militias where they trained/well-regulated themselves), in the same way that there's a reason why the Founders chose words like levy instead of declare (for war). Distinction without a difference in 2024, post-Heller, but anything that involves even a cursory historical examination of the 2A is at this point... --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:978839322] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>firedoom666 posted... </cite><quote>I don't even think citizens should own guns. The 2nd ammendment was a huge mistake</quote>"Bearing arms" wasn't technically about owning a gun as much as wielding it (in part because they had armoriesfor their militias where they trained/well-regulated themselves), in the same way that there's a reason why the Founders chose words like levy instead of declare (for war).Distinction without a difference in 2024, post-Heller, but anything that involves even a cursory historical examination of the 2A is at this point... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 02/14/24 12:07:33 PM #59:	Torgo posted... No. As much as I love old west movies... it's a lot like zombie movies - it's a cool setting for fiction but I wouldn't actually want to live like that. The funny thing is, that in the old west, a lot of times guns would have to be turned in at the sheriff when coming to town. Or checked when entering certain venues. They knew that letting everybody carry everywhere was a bad idea. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:978839790] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>No.As much as I love old west movies... it's a lot like zombie movies - it's a cool setting for fiction but I wouldn't actually want to live like that.</quote>The funny thing is, that in the old west, a lot of times guns would have to be turned in at the sheriff when coming to town. Or checked when entering certain venues. They knew that letting everybody carry everywhere was a bad idea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 02/14/24 12:12:58 PM #61:	firedoom666 posted... I don't even think citizens should own guns. The 2nd ammendment was a huge mistake 2nd amendment was fine for the time it was created. Not updating the god damn thing was a huge mistake. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:978839898] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>firedoom666 posted... </cite><quote>I don't even think citizens should own guns. The 2nd ammendment was a huge mistake</quote>2nd amendment was fine for the time it was created. Not updating the god damn thing was a huge mistake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 02/14/24 12:14:02 PM #62:	DnDer posted... People who open carry, even in accordance with current law, are not people I'd consider responsible gun owners Thank goodness you don't make the rules, then. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:978839922] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>People who open carry, even in accordance with current law, are not people I'd consider responsible gun owners</quote>Thank goodness you don't make the rules, then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hereforemnant 02/14/24 12:17:51 PM #63:	ai123 posted... No. Makes you look like a prick. Vastly increases your chances of being shot. Believing that you're safe only when everyone is in a Mexican standoff with everyone else is fucking mental. Yeah I don't understand arguments for open carry. I treat it like I do riding a motorcycle, I assume at all times that I'm invisible to drivers even if I've locked eyes with them. I will assume everyone has a piece by that same measure, and to react accordingly & avoid incidents since people will pull one out over just about anything. Open carry will give people worse egos imo --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:978840005] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>No.Makes you look like a prick.Vastly increases your chances of being shot.Believing that you're safe only when everyone is in a Mexican standoff with everyone else is fucking mental.</quote>Yeah I don't understand arguments for open carry. I treat it like I do riding a motorcycle, I assume at all times that I'm invisible to drivers even if I've locked eyes with them. I will assume everyone has a piece by that same measure, and to react accordingly & avoid incidents since people will pull one out over just about anything. Open carry will give people worse egos imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xatrion 02/14/24 12:19:18 PM #64:	Concealed carry? Sure. Open carry? I don't see the point unless your intention is to intimidate people around you. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. <cite>Xatrion posted [p:978840031] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Concealed carry? Sure. Open carry? I don't see the point unless your intention is to intimidate people around you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 02/14/24 12:26:26 PM #65:	It's always interesting for me to read the perspectives of people who are rarely around guns. The way they perceive a person as "trying to intimidate people" when they're literally just shopping at the store or pumping gas in their car. People carry guns for protection, and in 99.99% of all cases, there will never ever be anything illegal done with that gun. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:978840168] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>It's always interesting for me to read the perspectives of people who are rarely around guns. The way they perceive a person as "trying to intimidate people" when they're literally just shopping at the store or pumping gas in their car. People carry guns for protection, and in 99.99% of all cases, there will never ever be anything illegal done with that gun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 02/14/24 12:41:23 PM #66:	why tf do you need protection when shopping at the store or pumping gas --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:978840453] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>why tf do you need protection when shopping at the store or pumping gas </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/14/24 12:42:48 PM #67:	mario2000 posted... why tf do you need protection when shopping at the store or pumping gas People have been attacked before doing exactly that. --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978840486] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>mario2000 posted... </cite><quote>why tf do you need protection when shopping at the store or pumping gas</quote>People have been attacked before doing exactly that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 02/14/24 12:45:01 PM #68:	mario2000 posted... why tf do you need protection when shopping at the store or pumping gas Is this a serious question? --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:978840533] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>mario2000 posted... </cite><quote>why tf do you need protection when shopping at the store or pumping gas</quote>Is this a serious question? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/14/24 12:53:49 PM #69:	No, I do not. I think the risk of people using it irresponsibly is greater than the need to carry for self defense. Youre not going to stop all crimes from happening, but the idea that a civilian at any given moment has the ability to end the life of someone else in a nanosecond - its not something that people should have to worry about. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:978840688] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>No, I do not. I think the risk of people using it irresponsibly is greater than the need to carry for self defense. Youre not going to stop all crimes from happening, but the idea that a civilian at any given moment has the ability to end the life of someone else in a nanosecond - its not something that people should have to worry about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 02/14/24 12:54:29 PM #70:	Theres been pretty rare instances but when somebody is being a cocky shit and drunk you can get pretty nervous when they've got a gun on their hip. Other instance was a guy that was really chill and amiable guy with a gun on his hip. The comfort levels had enormous differences. ~~also the first guy reminded me of the Columbine shooter with long hair.~~ --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:978840702] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Theres been pretty rare instances but when somebody is being a cocky shit and drunk you can get pretty nervous when they've got a gun on their hip. Other instance was a guy that was really chill and amiable guy with a gun on his hip. The comfort levels had enormous differences. also the first guy reminded me of the Columbine shooter with long hair. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 02/14/24 1:50:15 PM #71:	Cocytus posted... People have been attacked before doing exactly that. Then carry pepper spray or a taser or a knife. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:978841667] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>People have been attacked before doing exactly that.</quote>Then carry pepper spray or a taser or a knife. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hereforemnant 02/14/24 1:59:41 PM #73:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This too --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:978841857] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/14/24 2:38:02 PM #74:	mario2000 posted... Then carry pepper spray or a taser or a knife. What about that racist shooter that killed those black people at the super market like last year... --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978842495] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>mario2000 posted... </cite><quote>Then carry pepper spray or a taser or a knife.</quote>What about that racist shooter that killed those black people at the super market like last year... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 02/14/24 3:18:36 PM #75:	Cocytus posted... What about that racist shooter that killed those black people at the super market like last year... How did he get his gun? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:978843164] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>What about that racist shooter that killed those black people at the super market like last year...</quote>How did he get his gun? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/14/24 5:02:55 PM #76:	mario2000 posted... How did he get his gun? Bought it --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:978845079] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>mario2000 posted... </cite><quote>How did he get his gun?</quote>Bought it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 02/14/24 5:50:25 PM #77:	Cocytus posted... Bought it --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:978845959] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite><quote>Bought it</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/14/24 7:09:56 PM #78:	Gobstoppers12 posted... The way they perceive a person as "trying to intimidate people" when they're literally just shopping at the store or pumping gas in their car. "Just trying to get my sandwich, bro. Totally not a display of intimidation or how small my genitals are." https://twitter.com/vizjourno/status/1259189791150800899 "Self-defense ready and not here making any other statements." https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f3b0a419.jpg --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:978847334] in Do you bel... [t:80695805]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>The way they perceive a person as "trying to intimidate people" when they're literally just shopping at the store or pumping gas in their car.</quote>"Just trying to get my sandwich, bro. Totally not a display of intimidation or how small my genitals are."https://twitter.com/vizjourno/status/1259189791150800899"Self-defense ready and not here making any other statements." https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f3b0a419.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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