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Lairen 02/09/24 9:17:27 AM #1:	They act like hes the only hero in his universe. Theres tons of heroes that could kill batmans villains that conveniently dont.... Batman doesnt kill joker.....but also neither does anyone else in the dc universe. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:978744125] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>They act like hes the only hero in his universe. Theres tons of heroes that could kill batmans villains that conveniently dont....Batman doesnt kill joker.....but also neither does anyone else in the dc universe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 02/09/24 9:20:53 AM #2:	Then Batman basically declares war on whoever does it because he's screwed in the head and can't stand one of his play things being taken away from him. --- http://imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:978744175] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Then Batman basically declares war on whoever does it because he's screwed in the head and can't stand one of his play things being taken away from him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 02/09/24 9:22:09 AM #3:	Southernfatman posted... Then Batman basically declares war on whoever does it because he's screwed in the head and can't stand one of his play things being taken away from him. *This is war!* .....but i wont kill you so... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:978744192] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>Then Batman basically declares war on whoever does it because he's screwed in the head and can't stand one of his play things being taken away from him.</quote>This is war! .....but i wont kill you so... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turducken 02/09/24 9:25:24 AM #4:	Gotham is his turf stay out of it if you know what's good for you....... The idea that any of the actual powered members of the Justice League are intimidated by Batman has always been absurd. --- THE FIGHT WILL CONTINUE, AS LONG AS THE AMERICA INSIDE MY HEART IS STILL ALIVE <cite>Turducken posted [p:978744238] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Gotham is his turf stay out of it if you know what's good for you.......The idea that any of the actual powered members of the Justice League are intimidated by Batman has always been absurd. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 02/09/24 9:27:12 AM #5:	Alas, the most powerful force in any comic universe - the status quo. --- Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming." <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:978744260] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Alas, the most powerful force in any comic universe - the status quo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 02/09/24 9:30:12 AM #6:	Most heroes have a "no kill rule", but what makes it more absurd is the couple of members of the "bat family" that do kill and operate in Gotham still don't do anything. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:978744318] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Most heroes have a "no kill rule", but what makes it more absurd is the couple of members of the "bat family" that do kill and operate in Gotham still don't do anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 02/09/24 9:31:45 AM #7:	Lairen posted... *This is war!* .....but i wont kill you so... To be fair, while Batman won't kill you, he doesn't care if he cripples a mf. --- http://imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:978744349] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>This is war! .....but i wont kill you so...</quote>To be fair, while Batman won't kill you, he doesn't care if he cripples a mf. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 02/09/24 10:09:42 AM #8:	I mean isn't this literally the plot of Red Hood He goes around killing Batman's Rogues --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:978745009] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>I mean isn't this literally the plot of Red HoodHe goes around killing Batman's Rogues </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 02/09/24 10:43:39 AM #9:	If you lived in the DC universe, why would you ever kill The Joker? He's just gonna come back to life in a week, except this time he might have demon zombie powers. Just sounds like a bad idea. <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:978745591] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>If you lived in the DC universe, why would you ever kill The Joker? He's just gonna come back to life in a week, except this time he might have demon zombie powers. Just sounds like a bad idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 02/09/24 10:45:03 AM #10:	Lairen posted... They act like hes the only hero in his universe. Theres tons of heroes that could kill batmans villains that conveniently dont.... Batman doesnt kill joker.....but also neither does anyone else in the dc universe. Now THATS a punchline --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:978745623] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>They act like hes the only hero in his universe. Theres tons of heroes that could kill batmans villains that conveniently dont....Batman doesnt kill joker.....but also neither does anyone else in the dc universe.</quote>Now THATS a punchline </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 02/09/24 10:48:20 AM #11:	Red Hood makes this messier since his thing is being "The Batfamily member who kills" so why hasn't he cleaned house? --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:978745692] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Red Hood makes this messier since his thing is being "The Batfamily member who kills" so why hasn't he cleaned house? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 02/09/24 11:12:38 AM #13:	If i was a villain i wouldnt live or mess with gotham yet MANY villains do.... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:978746113] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>If i was a villain i wouldnt live or mess with gotham yet MANY villains do.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 02/09/24 11:13:37 AM #14:	Joker has died, multiple times. Death doesn't stop him. That's why the argument that Batman should kill Joker and other villains doesn't work. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:978746126] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Joker has died, multiple times. Death doesn't stop him.That's why the argument that Batman should kill Joker and other villains doesn't work. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragulaRULEZ 02/09/24 11:19:08 AM #15:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byycwl8qgc --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." <cite>DragulaRULEZ posted [p:978746247] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byycwl8qgc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
alphagamble 02/09/24 11:20:27 AM #16:	Turducken posted... Gotham is his turf stay out of it if you know what's good for you....... The idea that any of the actual powered members of the Justice League are intimidated by Batman has always been absurd. I've never felt like Batman should be in the Justice League either. He has his own agenda which is limited to Gotham and Gotham only. Rocksteady could have played with this in the new game game but alas. --- ooh <cite>alphagamble posted [p:978746273] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Turducken posted... </cite><quote>Gotham is his turf stay out of it if you know what's good for you.......The idea that any of the actual powered members of the Justice League are intimidated by Batman has always been absurd.</quote>I've never felt like Batman should be in the Justice League either.He has his own agenda which is limited to Gotham and Gotham only.Rocksteady could have played with this in the new game game but alas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 02/09/24 11:20:38 AM #17:	Batman is an unhelpful crazy person. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b3e51d08.jpg --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:978746276] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Batman is an unhelpful crazy person.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b3e51d08.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 02/09/24 11:23:26 AM #18:	It doesn't make sense that an individual as obsessive as Batman would have a no kill rule. At this point in his mythology, jest just the Punisher without guns. Everything points to him being someone who would snuff out a life, but he's owned by a studio that finds that morally reprehensible to a point that "good guys don't kill" is life's one self-evident truth. (Remember World War II when the Allies beat up and arrested all of the Nazis?) That, and they want the excuse for return villains. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:978746321] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't make sense that an individual as obsessive as Batman would have a no kill rule. At this point in his mythology, jest just the Punisher without guns.Everything points to him being someone who would snuff out a life, but he's owned by a studio that finds that morally reprehensible to a point that "good guys don't kill" is life's one self-evident truth. (Remember World War II when the Allies beat up and arrested all of the Nazis?) That, and they want the excuse for return villains.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazer 02/09/24 11:42:28 AM #20:	The actual kill count Batman do have haunts him. https://www.cbr.com/every-comic-book-batman-kills-in-order/ --- Look! A distraction! <cite>Kazer posted [p:978746674] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>The actual kill count Batman do have haunts him. https://www.cbr.com/every-comic-book-batman-kills-in-order/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 02/09/24 12:12:16 PM #21:	FortuneCookie posted... It doesn't make sense that an individual as obsessive as Batman would have a no kill rule. At this point in his mythology, jest just the Punisher without guns. Everything points to him being someone who would snuff out a life, but he's owned by a studio that finds that morally reprehensible to a point that "good guys don't kill" is life's one self-evident truth. (Remember World War II when the Allies beat up and arrested all of the Nazis?) That, and they want the excuse for return villains. Punisher in the main universe is a joke. In a world where no one stays dead a character whose whole gimmick is he kills so other heroes don't have to is the most useless character. Only when he takes place in a more realistic other reality does Punisher do anything. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:978747251] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>It doesn't make sense that an individual as obsessive as Batman would have a no kill rule. At this point in his mythology, jest just the Punisher without guns.Everything points to him being someone who would snuff out a life, but he's owned by a studio that finds that morally reprehensible to a point that "good guys don't kill" is life's one self-evident truth. (Remember World War II when the Allies beat up and arrested all of the Nazis?) That, and they want the excuse for return villains.</quote>Punisher in the main universe is a joke. In a world where no one stays dead a character whose whole gimmick is he kills so other heroes don't have to is the most useless character. Only when he takes place in a more realistic other reality does Punisher do anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Atralis 02/09/24 12:15:29 PM #22:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smB_-d1ZaMk <cite>Atralis posted [p:978747312] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smB_-d1ZaMk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaLeyenda 02/09/24 1:09:47 PM #23:	Batman usually doesnt kill but he doesnt have to save anyone either. --- The one and only and still the best. <cite>LaLeyenda posted [p:978748184] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Batman usually doesnt kill but he doesnt have to save anyone either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
superbot400 02/09/24 1:18:20 PM #24:	I dont really understand how people think Batman no-kill so unrealistic. There are several counties that abolish the capital punishment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Canada But Batman being anti-death penalty is too crazy? --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. <cite>superbot400 posted [p:978748330] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>I dont really understand how people think Batman no-kill so unrealistic.There are several counties that abolish the capital punishment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_CanadaBut Batman being anti-death penalty is too crazy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnsteadyOwl 02/09/24 1:32:21 PM #25:	superbot400 posted... I dont really understand how people think Batman no-kill so unrealistic. There are several counties that abolish the capital punishment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Canada But Batman being anti-death penalty is too crazy? Batman's no kill rule wouldn't be a problem if the Gotham prison system did a better job of actually keeping people like Joker in prison and they weren't escaping all the time. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." <cite>UnsteadyOwl posted [p:978748530] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>superbot400 posted... </cite><quote>I dont really understand how people think Batman no-kill so unrealistic.There are several counties that abolish the capital punishment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_CanadaBut Batman being anti-death penalty is too crazy?</quote>Batman's no kill rule wouldn't be a problem if the Gotham prison system did a better job of actually keeping people like Joker in prison and they weren't escaping all the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 02/09/24 1:52:32 PM #26:	Its usually brought up as a sense of drama in batman storys because he and not the legal system or politicians are blamed for all the deaths criminals like the joker commit because he refuses to kill them. But in reality the above all is just a in lore excuse why his rouges are kept alive for future story. Which is fine but my peeve is just how often its brought up and deconstructed even when it oftentimes just makes batman look like a fool. The injustice games being the worst offenders in this regard. With bruce being partially blamed for what the joker did, and and again when Demain challenged him on his morals in injustice 2. But never, not in the games, comics or movie even did Bruce ever have a rebuttal for it. So If you cant make any argument for it then just dont bring it up. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:978748844] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Its usually brought up as a sense of drama in batman storys because he and not the legal system or politicians are blamed for all the deaths criminals like the joker commit because he refuses to kill them. But in reality the above all is just a in lore excuse why his rouges are kept alive for future story. Which is fine but my peeve is just how often its brought up and deconstructed even when it oftentimes just makes batman look like a fool.The injustice games being the worst offenders in this regard. With bruce being partially blamed for what the joker did, and and again when Demain challenged him on his morals in injustice 2. But never, not in the games, comics or movie even did Bruce ever have a rebuttal for it. So If you cant make any argument for it then just dont bring it up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 02/09/24 1:56:59 PM #27:	Yeah, it's really not on Batman. Arkham Asylum having a revolving door and the state not taking action are the real issues. If things were realistic a cop would have shot someone like the Joker to death after fearing for their life, and with Joker, it's a valid feeling. My issue is if some vigilante or maybe even a cop did kill Joker, Batman would think that person is just as bad as the villain was. At least when it comes to some writings/tellings of Batman. Really part of me thinks Batman should be it's own thing and not a part of the overall DC universe and also not a typical ongoing comic series either. It causes too many issues. --- http://imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:978748918] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it's really not on Batman. Arkham Asylum having a revolving door and the state not taking action are the real issues. If things were realistic a cop would have shot someone like the Joker to death after fearing for their life, and with Joker, it's a valid feeling. My issue is if some vigilante or maybe even a cop did kill Joker, Batman would think that person is just as bad as the villain was. At least when it comes to some writings/tellings of Batman.Really part of me thinks Batman should be it's own thing and not a part of the overall DC universe and also not a typical ongoing comic series either. It causes too many issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 02/09/24 1:59:25 PM #28:	I still believe to this day Batman is a murderous psychopath who believes in killing by proxy to sate his needs. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:978748958] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>I still believe to this day Batman is a murderous psychopath who believes in killing by proxy to sate his needs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 02/11/24 7:27:54 PM #29:	R_Jackal posted... I still believe to this day Batman is a murderous psychopath who believes in killing by proxy to sate his needs. Batman is many things but he's not a psychopath. He literally does all this insanity in an attempt to prevent anyone else feeling the pain that he felt --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:978788168] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>R_Jackal posted... </cite><quote>I still believe to this day Batman is a murderous psychopath who believes in killing by proxy to sate his needs.</quote>Batman is many things but he's not a psychopath.He literally does all this insanity in an attempt to prevent anyone else feeling the pain that he felt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 02/11/24 7:32:23 PM #30:	Lairen posted... but also neither does anyone else in the dc universe. superman killed joker --- Tiw - Min scild, min sweord Woden - Se ALLFAEDER he is, naes hwitra manna anra <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:978788292] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>but also neither does anyone else in the dc universe.</quote>superman killed joker </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/11/24 7:33:05 PM #31:	xGhostchantx posted... superman killed joker And look at the world that brought us. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:978788309] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>xGhostchantx posted... </cite><quote>superman killed joker</quote>And look at the world that brought us. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antiyonder 02/11/24 7:37:52 PM #32:	I don't know. Given how Goku did so, I would retort that it's not limited to watered down content especially when you have DC books with say rape or Batman calling Dick Grayson a reard. Let me put it this way. Other than making the hero look uneffectual, how do you keep a potentially interesting villain alive if the the hero has no qualms about killing and is capable of doing so. Like with Goku, sparing Piccolo cause of Kami and the Dragon Balls is at least something to consider, but he could have still been sealed in a bottle. Whereas Vegeta yeah it's pretty much just to have a motivator to train. But yeah true reason they (especially Vegeta) gets spared is likely Toriyama feeling like he can get more use out of them, but had no other justification for Goku to refrain from killing. Or you know even though the Rocket Trio had some deeds like starting a fire in the Celadon Gym, I don't see the Pokmon anime getting flack for Ash not just offing them. Anime even for kids is suppose to not give a care, right? --- Amalgam Universe resident Born in 82. <cite>Antiyonder posted [p:978788439] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>I don't know. Given how Goku did so, I would retort that it's not limited to watered down content especially when you have DC books with say rape or Batman calling Dick Grayson a reard.Let me put it this way. Other than making the hero look uneffectual, how do you keep a potentially interesting villain alive if the the hero has no qualms about killing and is capable of doing so.Like with Goku, sparing Piccolo cause of Kami and the Dragon Balls is at least something to consider, but he could have still been sealed in a bottle. Whereas Vegeta yeah it's pretty much just to have a motivator to train.But yeah true reason they (especially Vegeta) gets spared is likely Toriyama feeling like he can get more use out of them, but had no other justification for Goku to refrain from killing.Or you know even though the Rocket Trio had some deeds like starting a fire in the Celadon Gym, I don't see the Pokmon anime getting flack for Ash not just offing them. Anime even for kids is suppose to not give a care, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/11/24 7:41:09 PM #33:	In the Nolan universe Joker doesn't seem to have ever been released from prison or Arkham. Even with Bane releasing all of the criminals. This lasts until his retirement. So in one universe it worked! --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:978788525] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>In the Nolan universe Joker doesn't seem to have ever been released from prison or Arkham. Even with Bane releasing all of the criminals. This lasts until his retirement. So in one universe it worked! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 02/11/24 7:41:39 PM #34:	I think with Goku it's 3 things He's very stupid Deep down he's a good person who believes anyone can change. (I mean half his friends tried to kill him when they met) He really really really wants to fight them again. Fighting Piccollo and Vegeta and Freiza and Cell and Buu is like sex to a Sayian. Hell even when he ~~kills Buu he wishes for Buu to be reincarnated so they can fight again~~ Krillin is a good dude too and he was ready to impale a sword through Vegeta's face and make a kebab. --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:978788537] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>I think with Goku it's 3 thingsHe's very stupidDeep down he's a good person who believes anyone can change. (I mean half his friends tried to kill him when they met)He really really really wants to fight them again.Fighting Piccollo and Vegeta and Freiza and Cell and Buu is like sex to a Sayian. Hell even when he kills Buu he wishes for Buu to be reincarnated so they can fight againKrillin is a good dude too and he was ready to impale a sword through Vegeta's face and make a kebab. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 02/11/24 7:43:34 PM #35:	Kazer posted... The actual kill count Batman do have haunts him. https://www.cbr.com/every-comic-book-batman-kills-in-order/ KGBeast is on the list for two different deaths, yeesh (must really haunt him so much he could do it twice :/) And the listicle doesn't delve deeper into the possible ramifications of this. If anything, the article still beats the drums of 'gee golly, wasn't that awesome, kids?!?' --- Resident Shiny Hunter of CE 307 Shinys and counting! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:978788595] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Kazer posted... </cite><quote>The actual kill count Batman do have haunts him. https://www.cbr.com/every-comic-book-batman-kills-in-order/</quote>KGBeast is on the list for two different deaths, yeesh (must really haunt him so much he could do it twice :/) And the listicle doesn't delve deeper into the possible ramifications of this. If anything, the article still beats the drums of 'gee golly, wasn't that awesome, kids?!?' </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 02/11/24 7:46:05 PM #36:	FortuneCookie posted... It doesn't make sense that an individual as obsessive as Batman would have a no kill rule. At this point in his mythology, jest just the Punisher without guns. Everything points to him being someone who would snuff out a life, but he's owned by a studio that finds that morally reprehensible to a point that "good guys don't kill" is life's one self-evident truth. (Remember World War II when the Allies beat up and arrested all of the Nazis?) That, and they want the excuse for return villains. That and the asinine if you kill him you will be just like him trope that Ive always hated. No, someone who kills a villain as a last resort is not the same as a mass murderer. --- Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming." <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:978788673] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>It doesn't make sense that an individual as obsessive as Batman would have a no kill rule. At this point in his mythology, jest just the Punisher without guns.Everything points to him being someone who would snuff out a life, but he's owned by a studio that finds that morally reprehensible to a point that "good guys don't kill" is life's one self-evident truth. (Remember World War II when the Allies beat up and arrested all of the Nazis?) That, and they want the excuse for return villains.</quote>That and the asinine if you kill him you will be just like him trope that Ive always hated. No, someone who kills a villain as a last resort is not the same as a mass murderer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xGhostchantx 02/11/24 7:51:36 PM #37:	DrizztLink posted... And look at the world that brought us. tbf, superman was right. at least to begin with. when there's people in your world that can level an entire city (or planet) with a single thought and the authorities are powerless to do anything, maybe you should be policing the world. batman doesn't give a shit about innocent people, it's all about stroking his ego. superman gives a shit. he's killed everyone in his rogues' gallery at least once. --- Tiw - Min scild, min sweord Woden - Se ALLFAEDER he is, naes hwitra manna anra <cite>xGhostchantx posted [p:978788866] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>And look at the world that brought us.</quote>tbf, superman was right. at least to begin with. when there's people in your world that can level an entire city (or planet) with a single thought and the authorities are powerless to do anything, maybe you should be policing the world. batman doesn't give a shit about innocent people, it's all about stroking his ego.superman gives a shit. he's killed everyone in his rogues' gallery at least once. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 02/11/24 7:51:59 PM #38:	The only problem with Batman's "no kill rule" is that stories will go out of their way to put Batman into situations where killing is morally justified and have him go "nope, sorry, killing is bad mmkay" If it just so happened that Joker got away, or if he was locked away in Arkham without any moral commentary and the story just assumed this was a good enough ending (and to be fair, unless you're meta-aware, it is), it'd be fine. To be fair, a LOT of DC comics have this problem, not just Batman. The Superman War World arc was otherwise great, but on the way to Mongul's planet Supes gives the typical "we do this my way" speech and its like...you're literally invading another goddamn planet to liberate the entire slave caste. What the fuck do you expect to happen? >_> --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:978788876] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>The only problem with Batman's "no kill rule" is that stories will go out of their way to put Batman into situations where killing is morally justified and have him go "nope, sorry, killing is bad mmkay"If it just so happened that Joker got away, or if he was locked away in Arkham without any moral commentary and the story just assumed this was a good enough ending (and to be fair, unless you're meta-aware, it is), it'd be fine.To be fair, a LOT of DC comics have this problem, not just Batman.The Superman War World arc was otherwise great, but on the way to Mongul's planet Supes gives the typical "we do this my way" speech and its like...you're literally invading another goddamn planet to liberate the entire slave caste. What the fuck do you expect to happen? >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 02/11/24 7:53:03 PM #39:	Batman has an almost supernatural ability to flee a scene and/or escape death. And so does Joker. Almost like they have some sort of shared power, or they are at least in one way, two sides of the same coin that way. I want to know if there's merit to that, haha. Throw in a B-Plot with Two-Face and Riddler shenanigans, and I'd buy that comic line and watch the show. Gimme lol. --- Resident Shiny Hunter of CE 307 Shinys and counting! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:978788916] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Batman has an almost supernatural ability to flee a scene and/or escape death.And so does Joker. Almost like they have some sort of shared power, or they are at least in one way, two sides of the same coin that way. I want to know if there's merit to that, haha.Throw in a B-Plot with Two-Face and Riddler shenanigans, and I'd buy that comic line and watch the show.Gimme lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 02/11/24 7:53:59 PM #40:	Batman has stopped people from killing the joker. Even when the fucking court was going to kill him. Batman saved him. --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:978788947] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Batman has stopped people from killing the joker. Even when the fucking court was going to kill him. Batman saved him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/11/24 7:56:18 PM #41:	Batman has been around for a century. I'd say there'd be a story about every single way the Batman vs Joker story can continue and end. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:978789019] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Batman has been around for a century. I'd say there'd be a story about every single way the Batman vs Joker story can continue and end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 02/11/24 7:57:39 PM #42:	cjsdowg posted... Batman as stopped people from killing the joker. Even when the fucking court was going to kill him. Batman saved him. Doesnt he also save him from a fall (or car impact?) in one of the Nolan movies too? Kinda flies in the face of post 23. If anything Batman saves his villains because he essentially cant exist without them. Its a pretty damn unhealthy dynamic. --- Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming." <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:978789069] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Batman as stopped people from killing the joker. Even when the fucking court was going to kill him. Batman saved him.</quote>Doesnt he also save him from a fall (or car impact?) in one of the Nolan movies too? Kinda flies in the face of post 23. If anything Batman saves his villains because he essentially cant exist without them. Its a pretty damn unhealthy dynamic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guns_of_Verdun 02/11/24 7:57:55 PM #43:	Dark_Arbron posted... That and the asinine if you kill him you will be just like him trope that Ive always hated. No, someone who kills a villain as a last resort is not the same as a mass murderer. You'd probably enjoy Under The Red Hood which explores this: *Spoilers:* ~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgW7pBKcU4k~~ --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv <cite>Guns_of_Verdun posted [p:978789080] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>That and the asinine if you kill him you will be just like him trope that Ive always hated. No, someone who kills a villain as a last resort is not the same as a mass murderer.</quote>You'd probably enjoy Under The Red Hood which explores this:Spoilers:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgW7pBKcU4k </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 02/11/24 7:59:42 PM #44:	Guns_of_Verdun posted... Krillin is a good dude too and he was ready to impale a sword through Vegeta's face and make a kebab. But he didn't want to kill 18 when she was innocent. Killing assholes, killing innocent people. --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:978789121] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Guns_of_Verdun posted... </cite><quote>Krillin is a good dude too and he was ready to impale a sword through Vegeta's face and make a kebab.</quote>But he didn't want to kill 18 when she was innocent. Killing assholes, killing innocent people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 02/11/24 8:00:00 PM #45:	cjsdowg posted... Batman as stopped people from killing the joker. Even when the fucking court was going to kill him. Batman saved him. I know it was literally a different era of comics and entertainment as a whole, but if only Joker could be put in the DC Vault or something for a while again. He was never originally supposed to return after the first appearance and has spent multiple periods of several years without appearance. Might be time to do that again, but what do I know? --- Resident Shiny Hunter of CE 307 Shinys and counting! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:978789130] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Batman as stopped people from killing the joker. Even when the fucking court was going to kill him. Batman saved him.</quote>I know it was literally a different era of comics and entertainment as a whole, but if only Joker could be put in the DC Vault or something for a while again. He was never originally supposed to return after the first appearance and has spent multiple periods of several years without appearance.Might be time to do that again, but what do I know? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjnelson 02/11/24 8:00:15 PM #46:	I don't have patience to read through all this before I can get to my post. Batman has killed, and not accidentally. At least he has in the Tim Burton films. --- I'm not here for friends. I'm here for the truth to the best of my knowledge of it, even if it's not what people want to hear. <cite>pjnelson posted [p:978789133] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>I don't have patience to read through all this before I can get to my post.Batman has killed, and not accidentally. At least he has in the Tim Burton films. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 02/11/24 8:00:18 PM #47:	Guns_of_Verdun posted... You'd probably enjoy Under The Red Hood which explores this: *Spoilers:* ~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgW7pBKcU4k~~ Incidentally dont get me wrong, I like doing things in games without killing. I just dont like when the story gets all pompous about it. --- Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming." <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:978789136] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Guns_of_Verdun posted... </cite><quote>You'd probably enjoy Under The Red Hood which explores this:Spoilers:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgW7pBKcU4k</quote>Incidentally dont get me wrong, I like doing things in games without killing. I just dont like when the story gets all pompous about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VIIVincent 02/11/24 8:02:01 PM #48:	Look to Owlman if you want edgelord Batman. His no kill rule is to teach us a lesson. Y'all failed at his lesson. --- This is the internet. You know the price it comes with when you have entered the filth and scum of this world. <cite>VIIVincent posted [p:978789185] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Look to Owlman if you want edgelord Batman. His no kill rule is to teach us a lesson. Y'all failed at his lesson. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 02/11/24 8:02:03 PM #49:	Dark brings up the Nolan movies. Those things were all over the place. He didn't want to killed the murder in the temple so he blows up the temple and a lot of people inside. Then he cuts to break to train and leaves Raz in there to do. You killed that man Batman. Then saves the fucking joker ... come the fuck on batman. --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:978789186] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Dark brings up the Nolan movies. Those things were all over the place. He didn't want to killed the murder in the temple so he blows up the temple and a lot of people inside. Then he cuts to break to train and leaves Raz in there to do. You killed that man Batman. Then saves the fucking joker ... come the fuck on batman. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/11/24 8:02:24 PM #50:	Dark_Arbron posted... Doesnt he also save him from a fall (or car impact?) in one of the Nolan movies too? Kinda flies in the face of post 23. If anything Batman saves his villains because he essentially cant exist without them. Its a pretty damn unhealthy dynamic. He nearly runs him over and decides not to at the last second. He also could have killed him by throwing him off a building and doesn't. In both cases he would have murdered him. But Joker never gets out again in that story so overall arresting him works out fine. The consequence was the lie. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:978789197] in They make ... [t:80692240]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Doesnt he also save him from a fall (or car impact?) in one of the Nolan movies too? Kinda flies in the face of post 23. If anything Batman saves his villains because he essentially cant exist without them. Its a pretty damn unhealthy dynamic.</quote>He nearly runs him over and decides not to at the last second. He also could have killed him by throwing him off a building and doesn't. In both cases he would have murdered him. But Joker never gets out again in that story so overall arresting him works out fine. The consequence was the lie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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