Board 8 > Simpsons mafia Redemption Topic 4 Old Man Yells at the Clouds

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/08/24 10:29:39 AM
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The Springfield Isatopes
1. Corrik
2. Death
3. FD
4. Mzero( IGCD)
5. Isquen
6. JC
7. Kirby
8. Lea
9. Red
10. Sbell
11.Ulti
12. Wallz
13. Ben
14.Chang

the dead
1. Ctes Marge/Maggie scum Vanillaizer
2. Lopen Gil Gunderson Town Unsuccessful salesman(Vanilla)

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(2) Red- Enchantress,Kirby
(1) FD - Mzero
(1) Death (ulti), Ben, (Fd)

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wallmasterz
02/08/24 10:32:34 AM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
The Springfield Isatopes

Please listen to this at all times while in this thread:

https://youtu.be/b1z4JfxFb6c

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wallmasterz
02/08/24 12:01:44 PM
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Questions from the last few posts of t3

Enchantress posted... to Ben
Ben did I miss why you kept your vote on Mzero at EoD?

Kirby321 posted... to FD
Red is understandable.

I might've missed your reaction to Wallz neighborizing Ulti and proving that Ulti went nowhere last night, seemingly corroborating the Vanilla claim. Does that have some impact on your Ulti suspicions? I just want to make sure you're FoSing Ulti based on evidence rather than frustration toward Ulti's utterly nonsensical playstyle.

Obellisk posted... to me
like a day scan or a night scan?

Is Lea playing games or are we legit trying to decide who she should "scan"? did she scan someone via day/night 1?

Enchantress posted... to everyone
Should I just scan Red, I dunno. Would scum Ctes attack scum Isquen by attempting to disprove the low hanging fruit defense with statistics? I dunno, maybe. I guess I could reread them.

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wallmasterz
02/08/24 12:02:40 PM
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Sbell I dont know the answers to your questions. Those are questions for Lea tbh

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PunishedBen
02/08/24 12:10:58 PM
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undefined posted...
It would just be really embarrassing to die because I was too excited about mafia to look up from my phone in time, y'know?

Aside from my usual suspects, I want to know why, say, Ben did votals but didn't vote. Lot of splinters in a crucial multiway lynch. Really looking forward to Red explaining his vote.
I didn't have a preference for who died and was in "watch what votes other people make and go from there day 2" mode. I would have jumped in to save Ulti if it went there. But didn't care enough to save Corrik, Mzero, or Ctes

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Enchantress
02/08/24 12:12:23 PM
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wallmasterz posted...
Sbell I dont know the answers to your questions. Those are questions for Lea tbh

Yeah Sbell, I'm standing right here

With my unused day scan, today only
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Enchantress
02/08/24 12:12:41 PM
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PunishedBen posted...
I didn't have a preference for who died and was in "watch what votes other people make and go from there day 2" mode. I would have jumped in to save Ulti if it went there. But didn't care enough to save Corrik, Mzero, or Ctes

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PunishedBen
02/08/24 12:14:33 PM
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wallmasterz posted...
Questions from the last few posts of t3

to Ben
That can mostly be answered from my above post. Was also using all my time just to type the votals in that last 10 minutes and even got that wrong in the rush. I was kind of sheeping Lea all of day 1 and there's a good chance I even switch to Ctes had Lea's vote came in earlier

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Enchantress
02/08/24 12:17:32 PM
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So my dilemma is, I wanna nuke Red. Because scanning scum is dopamine. But he's kind of dead on board. The chess speaks for itself. So clarifying Isquen would help a lot. Where he's pretty sus with his read lacking posts, Corrik vote and Ctes interactions. Whoever I don't scan I'll likely still go after, and neither are very cooperative in those situations. Red would be the most ironic scan for personal reasons.
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Kirby321
02/08/24 12:23:59 PM
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Red honestly isn't a bad scan option, but he needs to explain himself first.

Otherwise, my answer would've been Chang since I don't think anyone feels strongly one way or the other about his alignment. So having that ambiguity out of the way could really help us move forward with productively grilling people.

Isquen isn't a terrible choice, either. I just feel like Isquen eventually resolves himself, and not much changes whether his scan returns innocent or guilty.

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Obellisk
02/08/24 12:28:30 PM
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Enchantress posted...
Yeah Sbell, I'm standing right here

With my unused day scan, today only


yes they were directed at Lea however posted to wallz.

everyone is free to read words I type. free country or some shit like that...

Lea claims to have a 1 time use day scan. Now here's the real question. is it hers or was it gifted to her? and if she had the scan yeaterday why did she hold onto it?

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Obellisk
02/08/24 12:30:09 PM
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Also, I'd probably scan Death.

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changmas
02/08/24 12:33:49 PM
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Oh if you have a real day cop scan then scan me

for reasons i would explain immediately after the scan comes back

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changmas
02/08/24 12:35:25 PM
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Or like, if youre willing to use the scan to mega confirm town then scan me.

and i say immediately but that means my first post after i check back in (busy day at work today)

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htaeD
02/08/24 12:37:29 PM
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Obellisk posted...
Also, I'd probably scan Death.


I do like that idea

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Chaeix
02/08/24 12:37:40 PM
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Lea since youre planning on using the scan are you able to disclose the nature of this scan?

Presumably a cop scan?

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Enchantress
02/08/24 12:38:40 PM
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Obellisk posted...
Also, I'd probably scan Death.

I did consider pretending to be a Lenny scanner or something dumb like that.
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Enchantress
02/08/24 12:39:15 PM
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Chaeix posted...
Lea since youre planning on using the scan are you able to disclose the nature of this scan?

Presumably a cop scan?

I want to keep it vague in case I want to make anyone claim first
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wallmasterz
02/08/24 12:40:39 PM
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1:07 is king

https://youtu.be/1z8mzqmuyNc

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Corrik7
02/08/24 12:41:56 PM
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Who did you scan yesterday

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Enchantress
02/08/24 12:42:47 PM
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I can only scan today
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changmas
02/08/24 12:42:49 PM
#22:


Oh you should only use it on me if its a straight alignment scan

it would be very good for me to be 100% confirmed as town

not useful to scan me with anything else

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Enchantress
02/08/24 12:46:04 PM
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changmas posted...
Oh you should only use it on me if its a straight alignment scan

it would be very good for me to be 100% confirmed as town

not useful to scan me with anything else

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htaeD
02/08/24 12:53:28 PM
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Enchantress posted...


I did consider pretending to be a Lenny scanner or something dumb like that.


Yeah but what Simpsons character could that even be?
Smithers maybe

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Isquen
02/08/24 1:39:33 PM
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I'm still waiting to hear from red before I say anything, beyond "I have off tomorrow and can post more if needs be." I know all too well how often I get killed at some point during day 2.

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Enchantress
02/08/24 1:42:15 PM
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What are you expecting Red to say? He's showed up. hope you have a good reason beyond using it as an excuse to not participate.
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Enchantress
02/08/24 1:44:05 PM
#27:


red13n posted...
Corrik hadn't done anything all game and I had expressed desire to murder him long before?

I don't know what kind of elaboration you are expecting here.


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Enchantress
02/08/24 1:48:55 PM
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red13n posted...
If I had to throw darts:

Corrik, FD, Wallz, Ctes?

But seriously guys I'm actually vigi I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend.


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htaeD
02/08/24 1:54:20 PM
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Again, very interesting that this implies he also had a desire to murder Ctes

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Enchantress
02/08/24 1:55:19 PM
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If I wasn't so lazy I'd check a town Red's opinion on lynching zero posters D1
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Isquen
02/08/24 2:05:16 PM
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Yes, he had the desire to murder them YESTERDAY, Lea. Perhaps his opinion changed overnight now that one of them is dead.

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Enchantress
02/08/24 2:07:02 PM
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Isquen posted...
Yes, he had the desire to murder them YESTERDAY, Lea. Perhaps his opinion changed overnight now that one of them is dead.

You can't just say "I'm not saying anything until I hear from Red" when Red has posted and you haven't asked him any questions.
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htaeD
02/08/24 2:09:05 PM
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I just want to know why he thought the Ctes lynch was 'lame'

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Enchantress
02/08/24 2:10:52 PM
#35:


Oh yeah, now I get that. That is indeed very interesting, Death.
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htaeD
02/08/24 2:50:43 PM
#36:


Okay, went on a small trip in day1
This was Ctes' own eventual list of suspects back in topic 2

4. IGCD
5. Isquen
8. Lea
10. Red
16. Chang.

With Ben as an HM for being someone he could see 'fooling him'

Of them he wanted to be 'patient' with Mzero and almost immediately turned Isquen into a follow-worthy lead, ignoring the rest of his suspects.
This was before Wallz too said he was suspicious of Isquen too.
However from the getgo he mentioned that he had yet to focus on his remaining suspects so it does look like he was prepared to unvote Isquen at a moments notice.

Lea he posted about third, mentioning that she seemed directionless and asking her where she wanted to go...in an oddly indirect kind of way.

Next was a post about Red, who he also went easy and Ctes firmly made it clear he had no interest in going after Red yet.

Chang as the last becomes the player he voices the most suspicion of, but he held back his vote on Chang because he wanted Isquen to post more.

His response to the Isquen lynch pushback is also rather neutral. He does not fight it much, only wonders whether the people refusing to vote Isquen are scum. It is however a way for him to start saying 'maybe Isquen is town?'

Either way it all culminates in this weak-ass unvote, which I didnt like then and find even more iffy now.

ctesjbuvf posted...
What Isquen has done since we tried to push it has been useless but haven't made me like him any less, on the contrary it's not out of line with his weird town tells. I don't think I'm getting any further with this anyway


This does make Isquen look connected to Ctes, but I think it says more about Chang. Ctes didnt seem to have a backup plan after voting Chang. So I am giving Chang towncred here.

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htaeD
02/08/24 2:51:49 PM
#37:


Oh scratch the part where I say 'ignoring the rest of his suspects'
Thats a sentence I wrote that got outdated as soon as I continued reading more of Ctes posts after his Isquen vote.

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wallmasterz
02/08/24 2:52:00 PM
#38:


Good point from death.

##Vote: red

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Enchantress
02/08/24 2:53:23 PM
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wallmasterz
02/08/24 2:55:18 PM
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I still find it really funny and ironic ctes did that big post about the first person lynched in each game going a year back, then soon after he became the newest member of the list lol.

Im glad too. Ctes has been showing an uncanny knack to avoid being lynched for days at a time even when everyone and their grandmother agree hes scum. lol

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wallmasterz
02/08/24 3:09:23 PM
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so Isquen whats your scum list looking like right now?

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htaeD
02/08/24 3:11:19 PM
#42:


Maybe I can attract Red with memes. It worked the last time.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fc836963.jpg

I am sorry I ever badmouthed them.

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Enchantress
02/08/24 3:16:20 PM
#43:


Wow, the rare absolutely savage Death post.
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Isquen
02/08/24 3:19:59 PM
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wallmasterz posted...
so Isquen whats your scum list looking like right now?

Honestly you're looking better because of flavor and the fact that I'm still in krazy konspiracy land and eyeballing Lea. The longer red goes without confirming a shot attempt the worse he looks too, and if I dont see him step into gear tonight i will be CONCERNED.

I'm also feeling Sbell for making a ballsy milleresquetoast claim... but only "confirmed" through a Lea prompt. Obviously, conditional based on Lea's alignment.

Really though, a lot of my "scum" reads are gut feels based on who's being engaged otherwise - and who is being evasive. The way I see it, I fall on an "he's inactive, kill him" bullet and those that have skated by excessively day 1/2 come out of the woodwork and finally engage. I can only go by my gut, and it's currently telling me Corrik/Lea/Sbell (and a fourth?)

This is ALSO why I'm waiting on Red to hurry up and prove his vigilance, because I very much would like him to die if he doesn't.

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Enchantress
02/08/24 3:21:09 PM
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Isquen posted...
Honestly you're looking better because of flavor and the fact that I'm still in krazy konspiracy land and eyeballing Lea. The longer red goes without confirming a shot attempt the worse he looks too, and if I dont see him step into gear tonight i will be CONCERNED.

I'm also feeling Sbell for making a ballsy milleresquetoast claim... but only "confirmed" through a Lea prompt. Obviously, conditional based on Lea's alignment.

Really though, a lot of my "scum" reads are gut feels based on who's being engaged otherwise - and who is being evasive. The way I see it, I fall on an "he's inactive, kill him" bullet and those that have skated by excessively day 1/2 come out of the woodwork and finally engage. I can only go by my gut, and it's currently telling me Corrik/Lea/Sbell (and a fourth?)

This is ALSO why I'm waiting on Red to hurry up and prove his vigilance, because I very much would like him to die if he doesn't.

Oof
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htaeD
02/08/24 3:21:23 PM
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Enchantress posted...
Wow, the rare absolutely savage Death post.


You say that but I already worry that red may take it too literally, lol

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Isquen
02/08/24 3:22:49 PM
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Enchantress posted...
Oof

Oof all you like but it's way too easy to claim a scan as scum. Or lie about it if you say you scan me. But I'm willing to fall on a sword and trade ;)

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htaeD
02/08/24 3:22:50 PM
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Isquen you realize that if Red hasnt shot yet, that you are asking to wait a whole day

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:23:23 PM
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So i just woke up sort of(I'll probably go back to sleep).

Are people really wondering why I didn't shoot?

Like i voted corrik cause he'd contributed nothing and didn't shoot because we downed scum and i didn't have a strong confidence in any shot(scum being -1 makes the odds of a shot probably as bad as they get).

Not sure what is hard to understand here.
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Isquen
02/08/24 3:24:01 PM
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htaeD posted...
Isquen you realize that if Red hasnt shot yet, that you are asking to wait a whole day

Or it could be a summoning, apparently.

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