Board 8 > Simpsons mafia Redemption Topic 4 Old Man Yells at the Clouds

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Enchantress
02/08/24 3:26:21 PM
#51:


Leafeon13N posted...
So i just woke up sort of(I'll probably go back to sleep).

Are people really wondering why I didn't shoot?

Like i voted corrik cause he'd contributed nothing and didn't shoot because we downed scum and i didn't have a strong confidence in any shot(scum being -1 makes the odds of a shot probably as bad as they get).

Not sure what is hard to understand here.

Why were you against lynching Ctes?
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htaeD
02/08/24 3:27:13 PM
#52:


Also.. what Lea prompt do you mean?

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:27:27 PM
#53:


Enchantress posted...
Why were you against lynching Ctes?
I wasn't?
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changmas
02/08/24 3:28:07 PM
#54:


can someone summarize the town case on sbell?

People have him really solidly town and i dont see it that way

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wallmasterz
02/08/24 3:28:14 PM
#55:


Leafeon13N posted...
I wasn't?

You said it was a meh vote

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htaeD
02/08/24 3:28:50 PM
#56:


Maybe you didnt say you were, but you did call Wallz' vote on Ctes weak, so I got the impression that you did not approve.

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:29:03 PM
#57:


wallmasterz posted...
You said it was a meh vote
You literally voted with a meh
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Enchantress
02/08/24 3:29:39 PM
#58:


Follow up question, why do you have absolutely zero fear of scum interfering with your vig shot or killing you before you use it?

Since, you know, you claimed it unprompted D1 and all
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wallmasterz
02/08/24 3:30:00 PM
#59:


Leafeon13N posted...
So i just woke up sort of(I'll probably go back to sleep).

I say we all help red take a very long nap.

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:31:28 PM
#60:


Like you all are seriously up in arms cause i said wallz made a meh vote after he voted and said meh.

Holy fuck people context.
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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:32:38 PM
#61:


wallmasterz posted...
I say we all help red take a very long nap.
Wallz you know those times i said your an infuriating player sometimes to your own detriment.

This is one of those moments.
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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:34:30 PM
#64:


Leafeon13N posted...
Like you all are seriously up in arms cause i said wallz made a meh vote after he voted and said meh.

Holy fuck people context.
Seriously people. Holy fuck come on. This is pathetic levelsof comtext reading.
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PunishedBen
02/08/24 3:37:14 PM
#65:


The game really feels like it's narrowing down. I'd like to go into full break down points of my town reads later, but for now I'll just list them since I'm still on mobile.

I already liked Ulti based on the tone of his posts, but I think Wallz tracking him no where confirms him town. His only scum incentive for claiming what he did is if he moves and needed to cover for himself. Claiming naive neighbor how he did in post 1 now makes complete sense since that's his renamed vanilla role, and the way he used that in his claim without a second thought basically confirms him.

I also trust Wallz enough to think that's not a scum/scum gambit, especially the natural way Wallz revealed how uneasy he felt about ulti last night. Wallz also pivotal in ctes lynch.

JC, Kirby, and Lea are all people also pivotal in that lynch and people that I liked day 1 a lot. Also I'm sorry to the people who want to believe, but Lea is not scum here. That's just based on the attitude of her posts.

FD I think is town for the same reasons I thought Lopen was town

Chang I think is town by how thrilled he was to see Ctes die. And I also like this page his insistence to scan him. I'm at the point where I think he's town enough that I wouldn't scan him. I can give more examples later on a deep dive I believe.

Corrik has been cool as long as he's been here. Is that a good sign or bad sign? Can't say yet. However, I'm thinking that based on the people voting Corrik, and based on me thinking that Ulti is town, that Corrik was not offered up as a scum lynch. Ctes picking a Corrik over Ulti also reads more like "let's kill Corrik because he's a good player". Corrik being town fits more into the PoE right now.


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Enchantress
02/08/24 3:37:17 PM
#66:


Leafeon13N posted...
Seriously people. Holy fuck come on. This is pathetic levelsof comtext reading.

Ok, so it was just a dumb joke in crunch time.

In reality, you only voted to save the mafia one sue vanillizer day one by choosing the guy who never posts D1, despite you traditionally also being someone who never posts much D1, and also over one of your other listed suspects who was actually around and had content that could be judged, or claim.

Glad we cleared that, I have a crayon up my nose.
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htaeD
02/08/24 3:37:53 PM
#67:


Okay I saw 'Red making a demeaning joke comment about the meh vote to attack Wallz'
For some reason I didnt see 'Red making a neutral, literal dadjoke tier, comment about the meh vote'

I may have ascribed too much malice to it, and for that I apologize if that is the case.

But I am curious now if you considered voting Ctes for real.

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:39:12 PM
#68:


Enchantress posted...
Ok, so it was just a dumb joke in crunch time.

In reality, you only voted to save the mafia one sue vanillizer day one by choosing the guy who never posts D1, despite you traditionally also being someone who never posts much D1, and also over one of your other listed suspects who was actually around and had content that could be judged, or claim.

Glad we cleared that, I have a crayon up my nose.
I literally had said i wanted to lynch corrik long before.

You are extrapolating the rest out of nothing.
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changmas
02/08/24 3:40:11 PM
#69:


PunishedBen posted...
The game really feels like it's narrowing down. I'd like to go into full break down points of my town reads later, but for now I'll just list them since I'm still on mobile.

I already liked Ulti based on the tone of his posts, but I think Wallz tracking him no where confirms him town. His only scum incentive for claiming what he did is if he moves and needed to cover for himself. Claiming naive neighbor how he did in post 1 now makes complete sense since that's his renamed vanilla role, and the way he used that in his claim without a second thought basically confirms him.

I also trust Wallz enough to think that's not a scum/scum gambit, especially the natural way Wallz revealed how uneasy he felt about ulti last night. Wallz also pivotal in ctes lynch.

JC, Kirby, and Lea are all people also pivotal in that lynch and people that I liked day 1 a lot. Also I'm sorry to the people who want to believe, but Lea is not scum here. That's just based on the attitude of her posts.

FD I think is town for the same reasons I thought Lopen was town

Chang I think is town by how thrilled he was to see Ctes die. And I also like this page his insistence to scan him. I'm at the point where I think he's town enough that I wouldn't scan him. I can give more examples later on a deep dive I believe.

Corrik has been cool as long as he's been here. Is that a good sign or bad sign? Can't say yet. However, I'm thinking that based on the people voting Corrik, and based on me thinking that Ulti is town, that Corrik was not offered up as a scum lynch. Ctes picking a Corrik over Ulti also reads more like "let's kill Corrik because he's a good player". Corrik being town fits more into the PoE right now.


yeah but if you want someone confirmed town you should scan me though

i have reasons!!

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:40:39 PM
#70:


Also corrik does not never post day 1. Usually you prod him and he posts anyway in spite of his own claims that he isn't going to post for the day.

Corrik is not good at his own convictions.
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Enchantress
02/08/24 3:41:06 PM
#71:


Leafeon13N posted...
I literally had said i wanted to lynch corrik long before.

You are extrapolating the rest out of nothing.

You had Corrik on a list described as throwing darts. The same list had Ctes. You haven't provided a compelling reason beyond "I said I wanted to lynch Corrik"
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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:42:26 PM
#72:


htaeD posted...


But I am curious now if you considered voting Ctes for real.
Over corrik not really.

If we lynched corrik and he flipped town I'd have probably shot ctes.
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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:43:22 PM
#73:


Enchantress posted...
You had Corrik on a list described as throwing darts. The same list had Ctes. You haven't provided a compelling reason beyond "I said I wanted to lynch Corrik"
I'm pretty sure i said i wanted to lynch corrik in a separate post.
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htaeD
02/08/24 3:43:51 PM
#74:


I guess thats also an indirect answer as to why you didnt just simply shoot Corrik night1?

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htaeD
02/08/24 3:45:40 PM
#75:


Leafeon13N posted...

I'm pretty sure i said i wanted to lynch corrik in a separate post.


Technically true
Someone asked you 'who, Red?'
You responded with a simple 'Corrik'
But that was after your dartboard comment and you literally didnt say 'why' Corrik. Your next post was also just a vote for him and nothing else.

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PunishedBen
02/08/24 3:46:33 PM
#76:


Isquen posted...
Oof all you like but it's way too easy to claim a scan as scum. Or lie about it if you say you scan me. But I'm willing to fall on a sword and trade ;)
That sounds like somebody who needs scanned. Or just killed? Oof indeed

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Obellisk
02/08/24 3:46:39 PM
#77:


I'm curious chang, for my own personal growth. how do you see it?

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:47:03 PM
#78:


We lynched scum and corrik was an opposing lynch voted by that scum.

That is enough reason to not shoot him i think.
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Obellisk
02/08/24 3:47:33 PM
#79:


UltimaterializerX posted...
He isnt acting depressed/lazy/inactive. No one hates being scum more than he does.


I dunno if depressed belongs in there. and I'm being sorta lazy this game so not really sure we can attribute that either.

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Obellisk
02/08/24 3:48:12 PM
#80:


Leafeon13N posted...
We lynched scum and corrik was an opposing lynch voted by that scum.

That is enough reason to not shoot him i think.


this makes sense. not sure why you were made to say it.

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htaeD
02/08/24 3:48:48 PM
#81:


Leafeon13N posted...
We lynched scum and corrik was an opposing lynch voted by that scum.

That is enough reason to not shoot him i think.


Well you managed to give the expected answer at least.

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:48:55 PM
#82:


htaeD posted...
Technically true
Someone asked you 'who, Red?'
You responded with a simple 'Corrik'
But that was after your dartboard comment and you literally didnt say 'why' Corrik. Your next post was also just a vote for him and nothing else.
Oh that is missing context cause it was a longer quote by i think sbellbut gamefaqs cut it out for some reason.

And I'm pretty sure I'd mentioned corrik earlier in the day after a reread.

Didn't even realize he was in the game til i glanced back over the list.
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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:49:35 PM
#83:


Obellisk posted...
this makes sense. not sure why you were made to say it.
Yes i didn't type my snarky comment about how dumb it was i had to type that.
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htaeD
02/08/24 3:49:48 PM
#84:


Obellisk posted...


this makes sense. not sure why you were made to say it.


Not sure why he should not say it either. Even if its obvious, why deny a player the chance to be obvious?

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Obellisk
02/08/24 3:50:04 PM
#85:


Death you've referenced "expected answers" a lot. I wonder what you expect to happen when you ask such questions.

are you just pining for content?

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:51:23 PM
#86:


htaeD posted...
Well you managed to give the expected answer at least.
There isn't really more to it than that. I didn't think hard on it because i pretty immediately leaned no shoot. Seemed pretty cut and dry i thought.
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Obellisk
02/08/24 3:51:24 PM
#87:


Leafeon13N posted...
Oh that is missing context cause it was a longer quote by i think sbellbut gamefaqs cut it out for some reason.

true.

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htaeD
02/08/24 3:51:25 PM
#88:


Leafeon13N posted...

Oh that is missing context cause it was a longer quote by i think sbellbut gamefaqs cut it out for some reason.

And I'm pretty sure I'd mentioned corrik earlier in the day after a reread.

Didn't even realize he was in the game til i glanced back over the list.


I checked and yes you did. But moreso in a casual 'huh thats odd' way. I didnt really get a murder Corrik vibe from you until the last 2 pages of day1

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changmas
02/08/24 3:52:15 PM
#89:


Obellisk posted...
I'm curious chang, for my own personal growth. how do you see it?

i mean i just dont feel like youve done anything that pushes you into my town pile. but I feel like Ive seen multiple people put you as either solidly town or like a town lock. for what, claiming Peter griffin?

if Peter griffin can be in the game then he can be on the safelist!

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htaeD
02/08/24 3:52:54 PM
#90:


Leafeon13N posted...

There isn't really more to it than that. I didn't think hard on it because i pretty immediately leaned no shoot. Seemed pretty cut and dry i thought.


Yeah thats fair. Corrik hadnt claimed yet and all.

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Obellisk
02/08/24 3:54:25 PM
#91:


changmas posted...
i mean i just dont feel like youve done anything that pushes you into my town pile. but I feel like Ive seen multiple people put you as either solidly town or like a town lock. for what, claiming Peter griffin?

if Peter griffin can be in the game then he can be on the safelist!

but have I don't anything that you deem scummy? Not that I personally think I'm a beacon of town but how do you get to scum over town? or is it more just confusion on how others see me as clear town?

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:54:26 PM
#92:


htaeD posted...


I checked and yes you did. But moreso in a casual 'huh thats odd' way. I didnt really get a murder Corrik vibe from you until the last 2 pages of day1
Odd things are odd things.

If memories right it was right after i was digging for reasons for me to look at people as town on a reread.

Corrik had obviously given none of those thungs.
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changmas
02/08/24 3:56:43 PM
#93:


Obellisk posted...
but have I don't anything that you deem scummy? Not that I personally think I'm a beacon of town but how do you get to scum over town? or is it more just confusion on how others see me as clear town?

idk i just sort of default to an unmemorable/not particularly present SBell as being a bit scummy

so Im confused at what others are seeing to be feeling clear town

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Leafeon13N
02/08/24 3:56:56 PM
#94:


Like he stood out in a clear way because i was pretty sure i had at least some remembrance of everyone else on the list and zilch from corrik.
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Obellisk
02/08/24 3:57:11 PM
#95:


Also chang, if Peter Griffin was a safe list character in a simpsons game and you were scum... would you choose Peter? it's a big WIFOM, but where's the scum equity in making that your opening post and highlighting the flavor implications? If I'm not Peter and get scanned I'm now boned.

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changmas
02/08/24 3:57:16 PM
#96:


Im happy to be educated on it and change my view but i just dont know what others are seeing

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htaeD
02/08/24 3:57:43 PM
#97:


Honestly I already got what Sbells post of 'Red, who?' was asking even with the missing words.
Would have been funnier too if Sbell had been that impatient and blunt

Obellisk posted...
Death you've referenced "expected answers" a lot. I wonder what you expect to happen when you ask such questions.

are you just pining for content?


I am pining for genuine answers and player insight. I like to see into players heads.
It doesnt happen often but sometimes I have caught a player giving the unexpected answer and my subsequent suspicion in turn.

Thats why I dislike players answering questions not meant for them.

Besides this time it wasn't me who asked it.

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Obellisk
02/08/24 3:58:08 PM
#98:


changmas posted...
idk i just sort of default to an unmemorable/not particularly present SBell as being a bit scummy

this is fair and not wrong, I appreciate the healthy skepticism.

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changmas
02/08/24 3:58:37 PM
#99:


Obellisk posted...
Also chang, if Peter Griffin was a safe list character in a simpsons game and you were scum... would you choose Peter? it's a big WIFOM, but where's the scum equity in making that your opening post and highlighting the flavor implications? If I'm not Peter and get scanned I'm now boned.

well i mean the flavor split should have been extremely obvious to scum immediately so i dont think the risk is particularly high

as soon as one scum flips you are fucked on a flavor scan regardless of being Peter or not

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changmas
02/08/24 3:59:01 PM
#100:


Regardless of claiming Peter or not**

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