Board 8 > Honkai Star Rail Topic 8: Welcome to Penacony

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UshiromiyaEva
02/07/24 11:37:51 AM
#51:


tcaz2 posted...
Oh and I'm likewise slightly miffed by Sampo in Penacony just being Firefly in disguise despite being in the trailers and stuff. I was kinda looking forward to finding out how he was more than meets the eye.

Two things:

Im sure saying Firefly instead of Sparkle was just a typo lol

Sampo is actually on Penacony, not every Sampo scene is Sparkle. They have a few scenes together in the Black Swan Companion Mission.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/07/24 11:40:38 AM
#52:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Got a random E1 Clara from normal banner...time to build fast skill spam AOE Clara???

GOD NO

At no point should this ever be a thing lol.

I am so desperate to get Max Clara. I have been EXTREMELY lucky with my 50/50 losses so far and have E3 Bronya and E3 Clara. However, Standard banner characters have notoriously awful E4s (E4 is typically the lamest for most Limited characters too, of course), so it's going to be a lot of heartache until maybe, one day, I can get Clara to her stupendous E6.

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tcaz2
02/07/24 11:43:09 AM
#53:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Im sure saying Firefly instead of Sparkle was just a typo lol

Yeah I actually already fixed it before you finished the reply lol

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Sampo is actually on Penacony, not every Sampo scene is Sparkle. They have a few scenes together in the Black Swan Companion Mission.

Oh that's good at least, I haven't done that one yet.
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UshiromiyaEva
02/07/24 11:43:44 AM
#54:


Seriously. Ugh.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bbc0ac38.jpg

IT'S EROTIC

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mcflubbin
02/07/24 11:55:51 AM
#55:


I actually just lost the Black Swan 50/50 to Clara and now she's up to E2...considering building her. Maybe on a team with Dr. Ratio?

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Hades
02/07/24 11:59:39 AM
#56:


I haven't even moved on to any of the Penacony content yet, I've spent all of my available time building Black Swan and getting gated by actually running out of the generic levelling materials for the first time ever. On the plus side, I have a super swag Black Swan now. Took her into PF4 and scored 80k points on the first attempt. Her signature LC is gross.
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HeroDelTiempo17
02/07/24 12:04:27 PM
#57:


lol well maybe you can E6 a standard character after like 5 years...or a few thousand dollars...

mcflubbin posted...
I actually just lost the Black Swan 50/50 to Clara and now she's up to E2...considering building her. Maybe on a team with Dr. Ratio?

She fits in most dual carry setups but is kinda awkward with Ratio, whose team slots are fairly limited to his debuff requirements and Clara's mark is not a debuff. You could do it if your debuffer slot can apply all 3 debuffs you need like Silver Wolf or Pela with Pearls...but idk how effective it is.

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pyresword
02/07/24 12:37:52 PM
#58:


The Aetherium Wars quest from 1.4 did confirm that Sampo was with the Masked Fools, which is the same faction as Sparkle. Of course that doesn't tell us a whole lot but it is something.

Haven't done the Black Swan character quest yet but here's my thoughts on the new characters:

Black Swan - Probably the biggest disappointment for me actually. She's just been kind of boring, though of course with her having a character quest I haven't started and those generally being strong there is a lot of potential for this to change

Aventurine - I actually like him a lot more than I was expecting. Unfortunately for Mihoyo not in a way that would ever make me want to play as him myself, but still. Just the right amount of unpredictability and hate-ability that he's been a pretty entertaining factor in the story. Significant contrast with Topaz who is in a similar role but the story unsuccessfully tried to get me to sympathize with her.

Acheron - Really great, but it's hard to say more when there's obviously a lot about her and her powers and motivations that we don't know yet

Sparkle - She has been pretty fun so far. I am worried they might be pushing her too far into villain territory for what I'd like, but they might not do that and it also might still work if they end up doing it. Her last scene with Sunday was great

Sunday - Expected him to be whatever and he's mostly delivered, but I did really like his last scene which might be a good sign moving forward

Robin - Well at least her song is pretty good, even if I'm constantly expecting to hear "making my way downtown..." instead of whatever she's actually singing

Firefly - I was expecting her to be the best and I was right. Her scene with Trailblazer after going through Dream's End was definitely the highlight of the patch

Misha - Not much to say but I like him so far

Sam - Design is very cool and that's all I'll say for now

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pyresword
02/07/24 12:39:12 PM
#59:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Can I just say, *LITERAL LAST SCENE IN THE PATCH SPOILERS*

The Robin reveal through me for a fucking loop. I almost feel like they knew about the Sam leaks, intentionally built up to it but then stopped that reveal in its tracks, and used the fact that so many people would assume that would be the end of patch reveal that they weren't even thinking about how a comment was made about Robin's voice at the very beginning.

This is definitely what happened to me for the record

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tcaz2
02/07/24 12:51:38 PM
#60:


Oh yeah Misha exists

Which kinda says how I feel about him.
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HeroDelTiempo17
02/07/24 12:52:57 PM
#61:


Ah the relic site is back up. Behold, the fruits of my labors spending two patches in the dot mines

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b0db9a9e.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/719245db.jpg

Planars aren't ideal but I've long since thrown out all my ATK orbs and am having abysmal luck bulk synthing pan-galactic planars. I'm gonna have a hell of a time replacing that rope anyways so it's fine.

Also wish I had a better cone to give her than S2 Eyes but tutorial is shared between SW and Pela. Plus I'll get more copies of it...eventually...

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UshiromiyaEva
02/07/24 1:01:58 PM
#62:


Hmm still getting N/A for my Black Swan scores.

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tcaz2
02/07/24 1:05:11 PM
#63:


Speaking of relics I got my first small taste of bad relic RNG already (since I didn't get to that level in Genshin and haven't really dealt with it in Star Rail so far)

Every single one of the 5 star relics I got from exploration in Penacony have been absolute ASS starter stats. Like I got multiple +Outgoing Healing +HP +Effect Res and the like on the follow up attack set chest piece.

Awesome my Dr.Ratio and Himeko will love the buff to the healing they clearly do or my Bailu will love the follow up attack boost, cool.
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pyresword
02/07/24 1:06:42 PM
#64:


I do think it's pretty likely Misha will have a larger role in the remainder of the story for the record.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/07/24 1:08:49 PM
#65:


I've spent 30 fuel on the new cavern and almost have Ruan Mei done, but the drops for the Crit set have been fucking dreadful. I have a couple really good pieces, but nothing that even resembles a viable set for any character yet.

However I'm all set on Planars for everyone at the moment, so I can safely spend literally all my energy on the cavern for the entire patch.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/07/24 1:09:20 PM
#66:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Hmm still getting N/A for my Black Swan scores.

It's working with custom so I just copied the default weighting for Kafka's except switching the element and setting EHR to max. Should be good enough

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MrSmartGuy
02/07/24 4:34:37 PM
#67:


Oops I pulled Black Swan in my first 20 pulls. Kept going until I got Misha after 30 more. I'll still have enough to get Sparkle with my current stockpile, but it'll be close.

Don't really know what to do with Swan. DoT is my least favorite mechanic in the game, so I didn't bother with Kafka and haven't been building Sampo, Guin, Luka, etc.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/07/24 4:39:11 PM
#68:


DoT only seems bad if you don't actually build for it!

If you want DPS Black Swan but don't have Kafka, will need to have a built Sampo at E4 to detonate Wind DoTs. If you don't have E4 Sampo then you're pretty much stuck with her as a regular Debuffer for now.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/07/24 5:09:11 PM
#69:


It is funny when you think about it, "damage over time" is a misnomer in this game because what you're actually doing with both of the 5*s is stacking enough debuffs to detonate a tactical nuke on the enemy.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/07/24 5:15:22 PM
#70:


Imagine if they put out a DoT unit that triggers small damage instances between ever single units turn.

What an absolute nightmare figuring out that team tuning would be. Theoretically they'd have little synergy with Kafka since the individual detonations would be so small.

Unrelated, but this 2.1 beta delay for Chinese New Year is killing me. I wanna know how these characters work! Still another week to go before the late launch.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/07/24 11:55:35 PM
#71:


God it's so fucking difficult lol. Nowhere near where I want it yet. At least I'm on the way.

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TheManaSword
02/08/24 12:00:10 AM
#72:


Kinda mad I didnt pull for SW on her rerun, because I really want to build mono-quantum once Sparkle is out.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 12:03:27 AM
#73:


You can still Mono Quantum without SW, just means the enemy has to actually be weak to Quantum!

Or you do hypercarry Seele or QQ, since it won't matter if Bronya is there.

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TheManaSword
02/08/24 12:08:12 AM
#74:


Oh I know, I just think the team would feel better if I had SW.

Its still a ways off anyway because Im gonna want FX too, most likely.

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BK_Sheikah00
02/08/24 7:55:48 AM
#75:


The opportunity to finally get e4-6 QQ while pulling for Sparkle is the best.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 9:48:31 AM
#76:


Did anybody actually build Misha?

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/08/24 11:07:09 AM
#77:


Not yet, Black Swan ran me out of exp books. I'm considering pulling for Misha cons but idk. Black Swan doesn't really need E1, so I should probably be practical and pull for DHIL if I do that...but Black Swan would be REALLY good with that E1...

The other thing with Misha is that I don't really know what his teams would be like. He seems made to be a sub-DPS with the whole team spamming skill, so you'd want someone like Hanya? Honestly I was shocked he's not on the banner with Sparkle.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 11:14:08 AM
#78:


He seems good for mono Ice since Jingliu isn't skill point hungry, and Ruan Mei wants dual DPS.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/08/24 1:21:50 PM
#79:


Monoice has potential but I don't have Jingliu. I'm sure it works because she's busted but idk if that ends up any better than Jingliu hypercarry. The weird thing about Misha is he wants SP consumption to buff his ultimate so you want to maximize your SP use and not just be positive.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 1:33:40 PM
#80:


Oh, hmmm, does it add stacks by SP Consumption or by Skill Use?

If it's the former than Jingliu would actually be anti symmetry, damn.

Of course that would make him very compatible with DHIL and QQ.

DHIL or QQ/Misha/Sparkle/Sustain?

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LuisSera
02/08/24 1:50:40 PM
#81:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/de04bc8f.jpg
Not too bad. Looking at the top of the leaderboard though shows just what an imperfect process relic scoring is though - lots of BS builds with less than the recommended amount of EHR for example.

Whilst doing this though I did discover that my Hanya is apparently in the top 50 globally, which is, uh, something I guess.

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LuisSera
02/08/24 1:51:56 PM
#82:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Monoice has potential but I don't have Jingliu. I'm sure it works because she's busted but idk if that ends up any better than Jingliu hypercarry. The weird thing about Misha is he wants SP consumption to buff his ultimate so you want to maximize your SP use and not just be positive.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Oh, hmmm, does it add stacks by SP Consumption or by Skill Use?

If it's the former than Jingliu would actually be anti symmetry, damn.

Of course that would make him very compatible with DHIL and QQ.

DHIL or QQ/Misha/Sparkle/Sustain?

Poor Yanqing

(I know he's technically skill point neutral, but still, he's so hopelessly outclassed by Jingliu as an Ice DPS that he rarely even crops up in conversation any more)

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 1:56:06 PM
#83:


Oh hey BS is working on Scorer. I never got the custom setting working lol.

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DAMN, didn't realize how much worthless defense stats I had until it was all played out here.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/08/24 2:12:54 PM
#84:


Oh hey I was right about the weightings at least so my ratings didn't change. Wind Orb and 2900 atk still feels bad for the Ruan Mei comp, but blowing Resin on a Space Station atk orb feels awful. I guess I'll just hope for good Glamoth drops. Or...go back to running Asta on that side, lol.

LuisSera posted...
Looking at the top of the leaderboard though shows just what an imperfect process relic scoring is though - lots of BS builds with less than the recommended amount of EHR for example.

I'm constantly surprised by the amount of people I see settling for less than the 120% baseline and/or not maxing talents which means you need even more EHR! Seeing that effect resisted popup causes me psychic damage.

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tcaz2
02/08/24 4:44:43 PM
#85:


Hmmm a 4 star selector.

I have all 4 of the characters, they're all E0. I think its probably between an E1 of Sampo or Guinaifen for me, and I'm leaning Gui even though so far I've used Sampo more (he's my most built wind character). Mostly because Sampo is on Sparkle's banner so I might get him there, but also her E1 seems better just comparing the two.
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swordz9
02/08/24 4:59:30 PM
#86:


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LuisSera
02/08/24 5:08:24 PM
#87:


If it helps to decide at all, Guinaifen will have the most immediate impact at E1, as it's not just a teamwide damage increase but it's an additional debuff for things like Dr Ratio or the new crit set. However, Sampo benefits more from eventually getting to high eidolons - his damage shoots up at E4 and E6.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 5:11:26 PM
#88:


Sampo's single target potential shouldn't be underestimated. Obviously his Ult is 1000% DoT focused, but his skill can hit REALLY HARD at high Eidolons. I've had cases in MoC where Sampo did more damage on skill than Seele.

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tcaz2
02/08/24 5:16:07 PM
#89:


Yeah he already is one of my hardest hitters on single target. Of who I have (and have built), only Dr. Ratio and Sushang do more ST damage.

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tcaz2
02/08/24 7:45:25 PM
#90:


I rolled two more times on the Black Swan banner on impulse <_<
Didn't get her but did actually get a Guineifan Eidolon lol me.

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SirChris
02/08/24 8:48:24 PM
#91:


I got this gepard fellow on the cheap newbie banner, is that an ok person to get on the newbie banner?

I am not spending any of my special tickets until i know what I am doing because unlike tcaz2 i roll for owls not cute girls (you can ask if you want)

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MrSmartGuy
02/08/24 9:01:27 PM
#92:


Gepard is maybe the 2nd best character on the starter banner?

Bronya is still currently a top 2 support unit in the entire game and is far and away #1, but I would put Gepard, Welt, and Clara squarely into the next tier, with Bailu, Yanqing, and Himeko taking up the bottom.

Of those next 3, I'd most want Gepard on a new account, because really good sustain characters are hard to come by. He's not really good, but he's gonna be your best option until a limited banner pops up with one.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 9:03:38 PM
#93:


Yeah, Gepard is solid. He's certainly been outclassed by a few other Sustain units, but he's by no means bad, and in terms of raw shielding power I doubt they ever put out a unit that does it better than him.

https://youtu.be/r_RvvPc5mLA?si=pVjY5nBPbCk7WmAo

This is half a year old but basically nothing has changed, except that Broken Keel Planar that has come out since then will be better than Fleet. I still use Belabog, though, since I have his Light Cone for the Effect Hit Rate boost for the bonus requirement.

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SirChris
02/08/24 9:22:39 PM
#94:


okay, i just wanted to avoid a dud awesome. Thanks! Glad I dodged a bullet there.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 9:27:03 PM
#95:


They only standard unit who has truly been left in the dust is Yanqing. No unit in this game is truly bad, but he just doesn't make the cut in most scenarios.

Of course, that's just endgame content. Literally everyone is viable for all the normal stuff.

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MrSmartGuy
02/08/24 9:42:19 PM
#96:


https://twitter.com/sashacall/status/1755568362602807652


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tcaz2
02/08/24 9:42:41 PM
#97:


Yeah as far as I can tell from reading up on things since I started almost a month ago there mostly is only 'Really good', 'Good', and 'Less good' in the game right now. Nobody is a dud and everyone can at least slot into an endgame team even if they aren't ideal.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/24 9:48:29 PM
#98:


I figured.....the new Erudition cone is probably the best one to max out at the ship first right? Just seems blanket good, doesn't have any weird specificity.

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Denji
02/08/24 9:52:35 PM
#99:


Yeah, that or the Hunt one.

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pyresword
02/08/24 10:13:10 PM
#100:


Well there are 4 stars I think are very bad, but among 5 stars yeah I think it's just Yanqing.

Himeko is bad for a lot of stuff but is very good for Pure Fiction and Calyx farming

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