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pinky0926 11/07/23 6:55:12 AM #1:	On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news: Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse Abortion rights are gone and buried Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:977080360] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news:Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in natureGutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masseAbortion rights are gone and buriedEvery important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
variasuite 11/07/23 6:56:12 AM #2:	Depends on who you are. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-BcH7KowGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gir8BEqAutk <cite>variasuite posted [p:977080366] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>Depends on who you are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boomgetchopped3 11/07/23 6:57:43 AM #3:	I just want cheap ass food and loans. <cite>boomgetchopped3 posted [p:977080375] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>I just want cheap ass food and loans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 11/07/23 7:00:11 AM #4:	pinky0926 posted... Abortion rights are gone and buried Ultimately depends on your state. Some states it's worse than others pinky0926 posted... Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment I'm guessing they mean Federal supreme Court judges. 5 of the 9 are conservative and that's what got abortion rights taken away from federal level to the state level. There have been some surprise liberal outcomes, but yeah. It's a conservative court right now. pinky0926 posted... As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature Some k-12 school libraries are being weird... --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:977080387] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>Abortion rights are gone and buried</quote>Ultimately depends on your state. Some states it's worse than otherspinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment</quote>I'm guessing they mean Federal supreme Court judges.5 of the 9 are conservative and that's what got abortion rights taken away from federal level to the state level. There have been some surprise liberal outcomes, but yeah. It's a conservative court right now.pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature</quote>Some k-12 school libraries are being weird... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 11/07/23 7:29:02 AM #5:	I've been hearing this my entire life --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:977080638] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>I've been hearing this my entire life </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meatlesshotdogz 11/07/23 7:30:45 AM #6:	The US is absolutely in a tail dive to the bottom at the moment <cite>meatlesshotdogz posted [p:977080654] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>The US is absolutely in a tail dive to the bottom at the moment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 11/07/23 7:33:08 AM #8:	The first one isn't true yet, but everything else is going down the drain and a Trump win would be a killing blow. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977080677] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>The first one isn't true yet, but everything else is going down the drain and a Trump win would be a killing blow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Sonic 11/07/23 7:33:38 AM #9:	Media? It seems more like CE is the ones really hammering it. --- Being proud of yourself is cringe, show some humility. <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:977080681] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>Media? It seems more like CE is the ones really hammering it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/07/23 7:33:44 AM #10:	pinky0926 posted... On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news: [1] Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp [2] LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan [3] As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature [4] Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse [5] Abortion rights are gone and buried [6] Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment 1- Sort of. Unclear still. 2- Not true. 3- Not true (but the reality isnt good). 4- Gutting funding no, teachers leaving yes. 5- Not true. 6- Not true. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977080682] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news:[1] Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp [2] LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan [3] As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature[4] Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse[5] Abortion rights are gone and buried[6] Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment</quote>1- Sort of. Unclear still. 2- Not true.3- Not true (but the reality isnt good).4- Gutting funding no, teachers leaving yes. 5- Not true. 6- Not true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 11/07/23 7:34:25 AM #11:	I do feel it's swirling, but probably not as fast as most people are thinking. It can most likely hold for another generation or two. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:977080688] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>I do feel it's swirling, but probably not as fast as most people are thinking. It can most likely hold for another generation or two. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
variasuite 11/07/23 7:34:36 AM #12:	hockeybub89 posted... The first one isn't true yet, but everything else is going down the drain and a Trump win would be a killing blow. Every four years is a "killing blow" for someone. Then life goes on. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-BcH7KowGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gir8BEqAutk <cite>variasuite posted [p:977080690] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>The first one isn't true yet, but everything else is going down the drain and a Trump win would be a killing blow.</quote>Every four years is a "killing blow" for someone. Then life goes on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 11/07/23 7:35:29 AM #13:	The US doesn't want to deal with real issues because it might upset corporations or might make people angry with them right now, so we're in a cycle of just kind of pretending we're doing things while everything goes to hell. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:977080699] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>The US doesn't want to deal with real issues because it might upset corporations or might make people angry with them right now, so we're in a cycle of just kind of pretending we're doing things while everything goes to hell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 11/07/23 7:37:54 AM #14:	Basically Republicans say the quiet part out loud now and still get support from voters. But it's worse than that because you have know-nothing MAGA stooges getting into office and they offer jack and shit for the country, other than charlatan claims of 'sticking it to the libs'. The courts have been getting screwed over for decades as a previous generation of Republicans played the long game; and in general they go by a totally different and uninhibited playbook compared to Democrats. Basically the country is heading toward some sort of political crash and reset. The amount of damage that will be done is unknown at the moment. Best case scenario though is that Republicans lose their grip on power and get sent all the way back to being a small political minority that is just strong enough to curb only the most outlandish aspects of what Democrats want. That's the only real healthy way they could contribute to the political system. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:977080716] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>Basically Republicans say the quiet part out loud now and still get support from voters. But it's worse than that because you have know-nothing MAGA stooges getting into office and they offer jack and shit for the country, other than charlatan claims of 'sticking it to the libs'. The courts have been getting screwed over for decades as a previous generation of Republicans played the long game; and in general they go by a totally different and uninhibited playbook compared to Democrats.Basically the country is heading toward some sort of political crash and reset. The amount of damage that will be done is unknown at the moment. Best case scenario though is that Republicans lose their grip on power and get sent all the way back to being a small political minority that is just strong enough to curb only the most outlandish aspects of what Democrats want. That's the only real healthy way they could contribute to the political system. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meatlesshotdogz 11/07/23 7:39:14 AM #15:	whitelytning posted... 1- Sort of. Unclear still. 2- Not true. 3- Not true (but the reality isnt good). 4- Gutting funding no, teachers leaving yes. 5- Not true. 6- Not true. lol abortion rights arent fucked? You have no clue what youre talking about. They absolutely are. same with LGBTQ rights <cite>meatlesshotdogz posted [p:977080728] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>1- Sort of. Unclear still. 2- Not true.3- Not true (but the reality isnt good).4- Gutting funding no, teachers leaving yes. 5- Not true. 6- Not true.</quote>lol abortion rights arent fucked? You have no clue what youre talking about. They absolutely are. same with LGBTQ rights </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 11/07/23 7:39:31 AM #16:	It's definitely swirling the drain atm A couple of bad elections will turn "varies by state" into "the whole country's fucked" super quickly --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:977080733] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>It's definitely swirling the drain atmA couple of bad elections will turn "varies by state" into "the whole country's fucked" super quickly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsuprised_Pika 11/07/23 7:39:34 AM #17:	pinky0926 posted... On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news: * Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp Mostly true but a landslide is not projected. Its fairly even and too early for polling to stick. * LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan Half true. Red states and many rural areas are waging war on LGBTQ people. But anti LGBT laws are dead in the water federally and in most blue states. And they did pass a law protecting gay marriage federally last year. * As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature A little true but the effort is not THAT powerful. Its mostly a book here and there outside a few towns that went crazy and defunded the whole library. * Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse Gutting has been ongoing for decades. The en masse loss of teachers is mostly recent though. * Abortion rights are gone and buried In almost half the country yes. However voters are punishing the GOP and restoring rights even in many red leaning states. Ohio is leaning towards codifying abortion rights today. If it fails it will be narrowly only because a massive amount of deceptive tactics. Support is over 60% for abortion. Deep red states are still mostly fucked though and some purple or red leaning states that might support it don't have ballot measures or are super gerrymandered and the state congress just ignores what the people want. * Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment Mostly true. Biden appointed a lot of judges and there are are a fair amount of prior dem or centrist judges. But Trump fucked us a lot and the Supreme court is mega fucked. --- I post clips of my cool, stupid and glitchy MH Sunbreak and Tears of the Kingdom gameplay here just for fun. https://youtube.com/user/linkachu1000 <cite>Unsuprised_Pika posted [p:977080735] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news:* Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp</quote>Mostly true but a landslide is not projected. Its fairly even and too early for polling to stick. <quote>* LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan</quote>Half true. Red states and many rural areas are waging war on LGBTQ people. But anti LGBT laws are dead in the water federally and in most blue states. And they did pass a law protecting gay marriage federally last year.<quote>* As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature</quote>A little true but the effort is not THAT powerful. Its mostly a book here and there outside a few towns that went crazy and defunded the whole library.<quote>* Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse</quote>Gutting has been ongoing for decades. The en masse loss of teachers is mostly recent though.<quote>* Abortion rights are gone and buried</quote>In almost half the country yes. However voters are punishing the GOP and restoring rights even in many red leaning states. Ohio is leaning towards codifying abortion rights today. If it fails it will be narrowly only because a massive amount of deceptive tactics. Support is over 60% for abortion. Deep red states are still mostly fucked though and some purple or red leaning states that might support it don't have ballot measures or are super gerrymandered and the state congress just ignores what the people want.<quote>* Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment</quote>Mostly true. Biden appointed a lot of judges and there are are a fair amount of prior dem or centrist judges. But Trump fucked us a lot and the Supreme court is mega fucked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/07/23 7:40:02 AM #18:	It's not insurmountable yet, but I do think this is the closest we've come to a governmental collapse since the Civil War. Trump and the Republican party falling in lockstep behind him as done massive harm to our government. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:977080741] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>It's not insurmountable yet, but I do think this is the closest we've come to a governmental collapse since the Civil War. Trump and the Republican party falling in lockstep behind him as done massive harm to our government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 11/07/23 7:40:36 AM #19:	whitelytning posted... 1- Sort of. Unclear still. 2- Not true. 3- Not true (but the reality isnt good). 4- Gutting funding no, teachers leaving yes. 5- Not true. 6- Not true. Donald will probably be found guilty and not be able to run Theres big push back on Trans rights and its slowly trickling towards gay people in some states Some red states are banning certain books at school True Well on some states theyre definitely gone Trump did appoint many mid level judges besides packing the supreme court. Some say thats one of his biggest achievements for conservatives. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:977080747] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>1- Sort of. Unclear still. 2- Not true.3- Not true (but the reality isnt good).4- Gutting funding no, teachers leaving yes. 5- Not true. 6- Not true.</quote>Donald will probably be found guilty and not be able to runTheres big push back on Trans rights and its slowly trickling towards gay people in some statesSome red states are banning certain books at schoolTrueWell on some states theyre definitely goneTrump did appoint many mid level judges besides packing the supreme court. Some say thats one of his biggest achievements for conservatives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 11/07/23 7:41:10 AM #20:	pinky0926 posted... On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news: * Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp * LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan * As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature * Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse * Abortion rights are gone and buried * Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment I'm a firm believer civil rights issues will never lose in the end over here. Might have setbacks here and there but overall it's gonna continue to get better. That's as far as law on paper goes though. Can't help the citizens themselves aside from lock em up. But if that's the case damage was already done. We are in a constant cycle. We have x amout of years with one party in charge and enough people think their life still sucks so they vote the other way. Rinse and repeat. But even the Republicans know they can only go so far with their setbacks. If they came out with let's make slavery a thing again hardly anyone would support them. And in my expierence with a lot of Republicans outside maybe LGBT they don't care for setting back others. They just don't care enough to vote Democrat. Give it a hundred years or so and I doubt they'll care about LGBT either. Wish I could live to see the day when voting had no civil rights issues involved cause they are on the same page. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:977080753] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news:* Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp * LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan * As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature* Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse* Abortion rights are gone and buried* Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment</quote>I'm a firm believer civil rights issues will never lose in the end over here. Might have setbacks here and there but overall it's gonna continue to get better. That's as far as law on paper goes though. Can't help the citizens themselves aside from lock em up. But if that's the case damage was already done. We are in a constant cycle. We have x amout of years with one party in charge and enough people think their life still sucks so they vote the other way. Rinse and repeat. But even the Republicans know they can only go so far with their setbacks. If they came out with let's make slavery a thing again hardly anyone would support them. And in my expierence with a lot of Republicans outside maybe LGBT they don't care for setting back others. They just don't care enough to vote Democrat. Give it a hundred years or so and I doubt they'll care about LGBT either. Wish I could live to see the day when voting had no civil rights issues involved cause they are on the same page. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/07/23 7:41:51 AM #21:	variasuite posted... Every four years is a "killing blow" for someone. Then life goes on. Not when the GOP has the Presidency and can activate Project 2025 America has been going down the tubes since Reagan and now one of the two major parties is fully radicalized. I can't speak for everyone, but every single meaningful aspect of my life will be destroyed with a GOP win. Mainstream Republicans have spent the last 3 years framing me as a murderous pedophile who needs to be kicked out of the country. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977080761] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>variasuite posted... </cite><quote>Every four years is a "killing blow" for someone. Then life goes on.</quote>Not when the GOP has the Presidency and can activate Project 2025America has been going down the tubes since Reagan and now one of the two major parties is fully radicalized. I can't speak for everyone, but every single meaningful aspect of my life will be destroyed with a GOP win. Mainstream Republicans have spent the last 3 years framing me as a murderous pedophile who needs to be kicked out of the country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 11/07/23 7:42:20 AM #22:	pinky0926 posted... On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news: * Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp * LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan * As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature * Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse * Abortion rights are gone and buried * Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment 1.) It's still Biden favored, but support is waning and you can never say never. Americans are stupid or brainwashed and will take a literal fascist as long as they fall in line with who they hate. 2.) Depends on the states. The L, B, and G parts are still mostly okay, it's the T+ part is really taking a hit. 3.) Yes, lots of book bans are in effect in conservative districts. It's stupid and asinine and the fact that every child has access to the internet means it's stupid but ultimately circumventable. 4.) Teachers are paid paid shit, treated worse (see, book bans) and are constantly under literal gunfire so the profession is in dire straits. 5.) Again, depends on the state, but yeah abortion rights are on their way out. 6.) Conservative SC part is true, but, again, depends on the state. Plenty of liberal judges exist, they just don't make the news unless they're prosecuting one of the thousands of cultists. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:977080767] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>On the ground here over in the UK these are the basic cliffnotes I'm getting from the news:* Despite everything Trump is slated to win the election by a landslide and subsequently pardon himself, increase tariffs, wage the war on the "woke moralists" and drain the swamp by...replacing it with an even bigger swamp * LGBTQ rights are evaporating faster than water in a frying pan * As are your rights to...read books in libraries that are not wildly conservative in nature* Gutting of education funding across the board, teachers leaving the profession en masse* Abortion rights are gone and buried* Every important judge of note is now republican with a lifetime appointment</quote>1.) It's still Biden favored, but support is waning and you can never say never. Americans are stupid or brainwashed and will take a literal fascist as long as they fall in line with who they hate. 2.) Depends on the states. The L, B, and G parts are still mostly okay, it's the T+ part is really taking a hit. 3.) Yes, lots of book bans are in effect in conservative districts. It's stupid and asinine and the fact that every child has access to the internet means it's stupid but ultimately circumventable. 4.) Teachers are paid paid shit, treated worse (see, book bans) and are constantly under literal gunfire so the profession is in dire straits.5.) Again, depends on the state, but yeah abortion rights are on their way out. 6.) Conservative SC part is true, but, again, depends on the state. Plenty of liberal judges exist, they just don't make the news unless they're prosecuting one of the thousands of cultists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/07/23 7:45:35 AM #23:	meatlesshotdogz posted... lol abortion rights arent fucked? You have no clue what youre talking about. They absolutely are. same with LGBTQ rights Why so aggressive and hostile? abortion rights gone and buried is not a true statement. Yes, SCOTUS overturned Row and abortion is under threat but almost every state still has some type of abortion and there have been state elections since Row was overturned that have strengthened rights or declined to outlaw it. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977080805] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>meatlesshotdogz posted... </cite><quote>lol abortion rights arent fucked? You have no clue what youre talking about. They absolutely are. same with LGBTQ rights</quote> Why so aggressive and hostile? abortion rights gone and buried is not a true statement. Yes, SCOTUS overturned Row and abortion is under threat but almost every state still has some type of abortion and there have been state elections since Row was overturned that have strengthened rights or declined to outlaw it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
variasuite 11/07/23 7:47:23 AM #24:	hockeybub89 posted... Not when the GOP has the Presidency and can activate Project 2025 America has been going down the tubes since Reagan and now one of the two major parties is fully radicalized. I can't speak for everyone, but every single meaningful aspect of my life will be destroyed with a GOP win. Mainstream Republicans have spent the last 3 years framing me as a murderous pedophile who needs to be kicked out of the country. That goes back to my original post of it depending on who you are. I can't even imagine being in your shoes with the way politicians are openly talking. I'm not going full doomer though, but if I were you I'd probably feel different. I still think cooler and more 'normal' heads will prevail. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-BcH7KowGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gir8BEqAutk <cite>variasuite posted [p:977080825] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Not when the GOP has the Presidency and can activate Project 2025America has been going down the tubes since Reagan and now one of the two major parties is fully radicalized. I can't speak for everyone, but every single meaningful aspect of my life will be destroyed with a GOP win. Mainstream Republicans have spent the last 3 years framing me as a murderous pedophile who needs to be kicked out of the country.</quote>That goes back to my original post of it depending on who you are. I can't even imagine being in your shoes with the way politicians are openly talking. I'm not going full doomer though, but if I were you I'd probably feel different. I still think cooler and more 'normal' heads will prevail. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 11/07/23 7:54:25 AM #25:	variasuite posted... That goes back to my original post of it depending on who you are. I can't even imagine being in your shoes with the way politicians are openly talking. I'm not going full doomer though, but if I were you I'd probably feel different. I still think cooler and more 'normal' heads will prevail. I used to not care about politics, kept out of them because I always believed that things would balance out in the end, and maybe they will, but at this point we're really at a point where you gotta ask "how bad will it get before the scales even out?" Normal from even ten years ago is dead and gone, and we have no idea what the new normal even is yet. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:977080909] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>variasuite posted... </cite><quote>That goes back to my original post of it depending on who you are. I can't even imagine being in your shoes with the way politicians are openly talking. I'm not going full doomer though, but if I were you I'd probably feel different. I still think cooler and more 'normal' heads will prevail.</quote>I used to not care about politics, kept out of them because I always believed that things would balance out in the end, and maybe they will, but at this point we're really at a point where you gotta ask "how bad will it get before the scales even out?"Normal from even ten years ago is dead and gone, and we have no idea what the new normal even is yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/07/23 7:55:17 AM #26:	whitelytning posted... Why so aggressive and hostile? abortion rights gone and buried is not a true statement. Yes, SCOTUS overturned Row and abortion is under threat but almost every state still has some type of abortion and there have been state elections since Row was overturned that have strengthened rights or declined to outlaw it. Literally only because the Republicans don't control the federal government. The instant they do, they will ban it. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:977080923] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>Why so aggressive and hostile? abortion rights gone and buried is not a true statement. Yes, SCOTUS overturned Row and abortion is under threat but almost every state still has some type of abortion and there have been state elections since Row was overturned that have strengthened rights or declined to outlaw it.</quote>Literally only because the Republicans don't control the federal government. The instant they do, they will ban it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meatlesshotdogz 11/07/23 7:56:21 AM #27:	whitelytning posted... Why so aggressive and hostile? abortion rights gone and buried is not a true statement. Yes, SCOTUS overturned Row and abortion is under threat but almost every state still has some type of abortion and there have been state elections since Row was overturned that have strengthened rights or declined to outlaw it. theres nothing aggressive or hostile about telling you youre wrong. Sorry your little ego cant handle basic disagreement if you really think abortion rights arent fucked then youre paying zero attention to whats going on in the world. The GOP is pushing for a nationwide ban and will probably achieve it if they win in 2024 <cite>meatlesshotdogz posted [p:977080936] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>Why so aggressive and hostile? abortion rights gone and buried is not a true statement. Yes, SCOTUS overturned Row and abortion is under threat but almost every state still has some type of abortion and there have been state elections since Row was overturned that have strengthened rights or declined to outlaw it.</quote>theres nothing aggressive or hostile about telling you youre wrong. Sorry your little ego cant handle basic disagreement if you really think abortion rights arent fucked then youre paying zero attention to whats going on in the world. The GOP is pushing for a nationwide ban and will probably achieve it if they win in 2024 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
variasuite 11/07/23 8:00:47 AM #28:	R_Jackal posted... I used to not care about politics, kept out of them because I always believed that things would balance out in the end, and maybe they will, but at this point we're really at a point where you gotta ask "how bad will it get before the scales even out?" Normal from even ten years ago is dead and gone, and we have no idea what the new normal even is yet. I remember being horrified at the idea of Mitt Romney being the President back in 2012. Nowadays, I'd give anything just to have him be the GOP nominee. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-BcH7KowGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gir8BEqAutk <cite>variasuite posted [p:977080990] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>R_Jackal posted... </cite><quote>I used to not care about politics, kept out of them because I always believed that things would balance out in the end, and maybe they will, but at this point we're really at a point where you gotta ask "how bad will it get before the scales even out?"Normal from even ten years ago is dead and gone, and we have no idea what the new normal even is yet.</quote>I remember being horrified at the idea of Mitt Romney being the President back in 2012. Nowadays, I'd give anything just to have him be the GOP nominee. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/07/23 8:02:14 AM #29:	variasuite posted... I remember being horrified at the idea of Mitt Romney being the President back in 2012. Nowadays, I'd give anything just to have him be the GOP nominee. Remember when binders of women was a huge controversy and now the GOP frontrunner cheated on his wife with a porn star? --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:977081010] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>variasuite posted... </cite><quote>I remember being horrified at the idea of Mitt Romney being the President back in 2012. Nowadays, I'd give anything just to have him be the GOP nominee.</quote>Remember when binders of women was a huge controversy and now the GOP frontrunner cheated on his wife with a porn star? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
variasuite 11/07/23 8:04:47 AM #30:	pegusus123456 posted... Remember when binders of women was a huge controversy and now the GOP frontrunner cheated on his wife with a porn star? That's so 2016. I like my GOP front runners to literally be out on bail in multiple cases. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-BcH7KowGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gir8BEqAutk <cite>variasuite posted [p:977081045] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Remember when binders of women was a huge controversy and now the GOP frontrunner cheated on his wife with a porn star?</quote>That's so 2016. I like my GOP front runners to literally be out on bail in multiple cases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/07/23 8:09:00 AM #31:	meatlesshotdogz posted... theres nothing aggressive or hostile about telling you youre wrong. Sorry your little ego cant handle basic disagreement if you really think abortion rights arent fucked then youre paying zero attention to whats going on in the world. The GOP is pushing for a nationwide ban and will probably achieve it if they win in 2024 Just keep ignoring or restating the statement I was responding to so you can make your bad point. I get it. No interest in intellectual honesty. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977081076] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>meatlesshotdogz posted... </cite><quote>theres nothing aggressive or hostile about telling you youre wrong. Sorry your little ego cant handle basic disagreement if you really think abortion rights arent fucked then youre paying zero attention to whats going on in the world. The GOP is pushing for a nationwide ban and will probably achieve it if they win in 2024</quote>Just keep ignoring or restating the statement I was responding to so you can make your bad point. I get it. No interest in intellectual honesty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 11/07/23 8:09:22 AM #32:	Stop watching the news brah --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:977081078] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>Stop watching the news brah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/07/23 8:11:02 AM #33:	pegusus123456 posted... Literally only because the Republicans don't control the federal government. The instant they do, they will ban it. So my point is correct today. Thank you. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977081094] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Literally only because the Republicans don't control the federal government. The instant they do, they will ban it.</quote>So my point is correct today. Thank you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 11/07/23 8:11:52 AM #34:	Go down on me America --- "Let the bears pay the bear tax I pay the Homer tax." - Bart Simpson <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:977081102] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>Go down on me America </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnsteadyOwl 11/07/23 8:13:00 AM #35:	We're pretty much on the same trajectory we've been on for decades where more and more of the wealth is getting concentrated toward the top. The wealth gap now is the highest it's been since before the great depression. If you're part of the 1% or especially the .1% then times have been better for you. For everyone else, economically we're all getting squeezed gradually harder each year to keep that upward flow of wealth going. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." <cite>UnsteadyOwl posted [p:977081116] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>We're pretty much on the same trajectory we've been on for decades where more and more of the wealth is getting concentrated toward the top. The wealth gap now is the highest it's been since before the great depression. If you're part of the 1% or especially the .1% then times have been better for you. For everyone else, economically we're all getting squeezed gradually harder each year to keep that upward flow of wealth going. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 11/07/23 8:14:17 AM #36:	I really hope not. There are a lot of things I like about the US, and plenty of good people live there. But a Trump win would mean my optimism would evaporate like cat's piss on a hot tin roof (as Malcolm Tucker would say). --- Nothing works/Everything's expensive/And opaque/And privatised/My shoe organising thing arrived/Thank God <cite>ai123 posted [p:977081128] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>I really hope not. There are a lot of things I like about the US, and plenty of good people live there.But a Trump win would mean my optimism would evaporate like cat's piss on a hot tin roof (as Malcolm Tucker would say). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 11/07/23 8:25:38 AM #37:	Everything I read in The Telegraph tells me so. The reality is much more nuanced, as many PPs have said. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:977081242] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>Everything I read in The Telegraph tells me so. The reality is much more nuanced, as many PPs have said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/08/23 9:00:15 AM #38:	meatlesshotdogz posted... theres nothing aggressive or hostile about telling you youre wrong. Sorry your little ego cant handle basic disagreement if you really think abortion rights arent fucked then youre paying zero attention to whats going on in the world. The GOP is pushing for a nationwide ban and will probably achieve it if they win in 2024 A lot of the results from yesterday suggest that I was in fact right. No need to acknowledge it. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977100427] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>meatlesshotdogz posted... </cite><quote>theres nothing aggressive or hostile about telling you youre wrong. Sorry your little ego cant handle basic disagreement if you really think abortion rights arent fucked then youre paying zero attention to whats going on in the world. The GOP is pushing for a nationwide ban and will probably achieve it if they win in 2024</quote>A lot of the results from yesterday suggest that I was in fact right. No need to acknowledge it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ANort175 11/08/23 9:01:56 AM #39:	whitelytning posted... A lot of the results from yesterday suggest that I was in fact right. No need to acknowledge it. You know he's banned right --- Are we the baddies? <cite>ANort175 posted [p:977100452] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>A lot of the results from yesterday suggest that I was in fact right. No need to acknowledge it.</quote>You know he's banned right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 11/08/23 9:04:43 AM #40:	They saw us in the UK racing to the bottom and refused to let anyone else by No. 1 ruining their country, so dove headfirst into an empty pool --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:977100493] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>They saw us in the UK racing to the bottom and refused to let anyone else by No. 1 ruining their country, so dove headfirst into an empty pool </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
potdnewb 11/08/23 9:14:22 AM #41:	republicans want americans to drop social justice and programs in lieu of an entirely privatized economy with no government oversight while attempting to get the populace to forget that those private corporations have contributed greatly to the decline of america democrats want americans to adopt all socal programs and justice as long as they yield completely to a corporate oligarchy and do exactly what they say at all times while attempting to get the populace to forget that those same private corporations have contributed greatly to the decline of america --- https://youtu.be/mSgnC5eQ5u0?si=lh_nzFRDz4j4jhc8 <cite>potdnewb posted [p:977100632] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>republicans want americans to drop social justice and programs in lieu of an entirely privatized economy with no government oversight while attempting to get the populace to forget that those private corporations have contributed greatly to the decline of americademocrats want americans to adopt all socal programs and justice as long as they yield completely to a corporate oligarchy and do exactly what they say at all times while attempting to get the populace to forget that those same private corporations have contributed greatly to the decline of america </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 11/08/23 9:15:30 AM #42:	meatlesshotdogz posted... lol abortion rights arent fucked? You have no clue what youre talking about. They absolutely are. same with LGBTQ rights They are not in some states, are in others. So the reality is it depends on where you live. I'm in NJ and abortion rights are enshrined in our constitution with zero limits, so no I would not say they are fucked in all cases. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:977100647] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>meatlesshotdogz posted... </cite><quote>lol abortion rights arent fucked? You have no clue what youre talking about. They absolutely are. same with LGBTQ rights</quote>They are not in some states, are in others. So the reality is it depends on where you live. I'm in NJ and abortion rights are enshrined in our constitution with zero limits, so no I would not say they are fucked in all cases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/08/23 9:39:29 AM #43:	ANort175 posted... You know he's banned right No. I dont keep track of who is and isnt banned. What a loss though --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977100967] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>ANort175 posted... </cite><quote>You know he's banned right</quote>No. I dont keep track of who is and isnt banned. What a loss though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BunkerBoy 11/08/23 9:41:13 AM #44:	There should be a distinction made between normal America and wannabe Gilead states Abortion is not at risk in the civilized states. Nor are LGBT rights. <cite>BunkerBoy posted [p:977101007] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>There should be a distinction made between normal America and wannabe Gilead states Abortion is not at risk in the civilized states. Nor are LGBT rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nosferatu_Zodd 11/08/23 9:47:31 AM #45:	No place on earth I would rather live than Massachusetts --- https://i.imgur.com/BZnYe1G.jpeg <cite>Nosferatu_Zodd posted [p:977101101] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>No place on earth I would rather live than Massachusetts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
B18Champ 11/08/23 9:50:43 AM #46:	It's not a drain, its a spiral --- Freedom, "that terrible word inscribed upon the chariot of the storm," <cite>B18Champ posted [p:977101150] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>It's not a drain, its a spiral </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BunkerBoy 11/08/23 9:56:40 AM #47:	B18Champ posted... It's not a drain, its a spiral You support Donald Trump, so you are actively contributing to the downslide. <cite>BunkerBoy posted [p:977101231] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>B18Champ posted... </cite><quote>It's not a drain, its a spiral</quote>You support Donald Trump, so you are actively contributing to the downslide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShotOJameson 11/08/23 9:59:45 AM #48:	America doesn't exist --- http://i.imgur.com/Bz19U.gif <cite>ShotOJameson posted [p:977101267] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>America doesn't exist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 11/08/23 12:45:08 PM #49:	The media overhypes the disappointments of Dems while underselling the threat of the Christo-fascist party the GOP has become. 2 great recent examples of this: 1) Joe Biden is old, why he so old lmao (meanwhile the obvious GOP candidate is a dude 3 years younger, the former oldest POTUS, and who once said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any votes, among many other things) 2) Recently when Mike Johnson gave a presser on how he wants to fund support for Israel by cutting all new funding to the IRS and used the phrase "fiscally responsible" like 12 times, not a single reporter there called him out on the fact that every report shows cutting that funding will ultimately lead to like -14bn in revenue due to uncollected taxes (IE funding) They frequently let these Republicans come onto their shows and spew their bullshit narratives without any pushback. I once heard someone on the POTUS channel of SiriusXM, Julie Mason, have a federal House member from IA come onto her show and say "Dems want to allow abortions up to the time of birth" and Julie Mason didn't say not one fucking thing about how that's only in extreme cases or even that post 2nd trimester abortions make up like 2.7% One of my progressive radio pundits on SiriusXM, who is a contributor for MSNBC and CNN frequently talks about how he's not allowed to call them Christian Nationalist/Christo-fascists or fascists in general, to do so he has to quote a governmental official about something, but they won't let him actually tell it as it is because "what will the Republican viewers we hope to appease think?! We don't want to seem biased and unfair!" They're Christo-fascists directly or support candidates who have those policies, fuck them and what they think. These fuckers will stand by and at times even help facilitate the success of these Christo-fascists for ratings and access journalism. It's sickening and it won't save their asses after they help the Christo-fascists enact the state they want, which obviously won't allow free press. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:977103945] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>The media overhypes the disappointments of Dems while underselling the threat of the Christo-fascist party the GOP has become.2 great recent examples of this:1) Joe Biden is old, why he so old lmao (meanwhile the obvious GOP candidate is a dude 3 years younger, the former oldest POTUS, and who once said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any votes, among many other things)2) Recently when Mike Johnson gave a presser on how he wants to fund support for Israel by cutting all new funding to the IRS and used the phrase "fiscally responsible" like 12 times, not a single reporter there called him out on the fact that every report shows cutting that funding will ultimately lead to like -14bn in revenue due to uncollected taxes (IE funding)They frequently let these Republicans come onto their shows and spew their bullshit narratives without any pushback. I once heard someone on the POTUS channel of SiriusXM, Julie Mason, have a federal House member from IA come onto her show and say "Dems want to allow abortions up to the time of birth" and Julie Mason didn't say not one fucking thing about how that's only in extreme cases or even that post 2nd trimester abortions make up like 2.7%One of my progressive radio pundits on SiriusXM, who is a contributor for MSNBC and CNN frequently talks about how he's not allowed to call them Christian Nationalist/Christo-fascists or fascists in general, to do so he has to quote a governmental official about something, but they won't let him actually tell it as it is because "what will the Republican viewers we hope to appease think?! We don't want to seem biased and unfair!"They're Christo-fascists directly or support candidates who have those policies, fuck them and what they think.These fuckers will stand by and at times even help facilitate the success of these Christo-fascists for ratings and access journalism. It's sickening and it won't save their asses after they help the Christo-fascists enact the state they want, which obviously won't allow free press. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/08/23 4:09:09 PM #50:	Kradek posted... not a single reporter there called him out Our entire fucking news media refuses to do this for fear they'll be blacklisted and I think it's one of the biggest reasons our government is corroding. I remember a few years ago I saw some politician being interviewed by the BBC or something. I can't remember who it was, but I remember it being so refreshing to see a reporter actually press in on something the politician was trying to equivocate and dodge. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:977107568] in Is America... [t:80613692]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>not a single reporter there called him out</quote>Our entire fucking news media refuses to do this for fear they'll be blacklisted and I think it's one of the biggest reasons our government is corroding. I remember a few years ago I saw some politician being interviewed by the BBC or something. I can't remember who it was, but I remember it being so refreshing to see a reporter actually press in on something the politician was trying to equivocate and dodge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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