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Gremlynn
10/31/23 3:09:08 PM
#301:


non-tippers "I only pay what is REQUIRED of me, if you want me pay the server it should be built in to my bill!"

somehow always still have a laundry list of reasons why it is awful that we would put automatic gratuity on their bill.

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WingsOfGood
10/31/23 3:09:56 PM
#302:


DrizztLink posted...
Apparently the main difference between the two of you is you agree with them but want to argue about it anyway.

No I am stating whining about a tip getd you nowhere

Then explaining the real enemybis doordash and infact tipping cultures keeps the workers down
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Unknown5uspect
10/31/23 3:10:29 PM
#303:


MatzoTov posted...
How so?
Doordash corporate HQ is in Tempe, AZ. Nobody wants to organize a protest or anything tho because nobody is about that life.

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DrizztLink
10/31/23 3:10:58 PM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
Nobody wants to organize a priest or anything tho because nobody is about that life.
I'd rather rouse a rabbi.

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:11:14 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
Imagine trying to argue that you should be able to not tip for DoorDash. Somebody is going to get your food for you because your cheap ass is too lazy to go get it yourself, and youre going to complain about being asked to tip?
Well they can't stop using DoorDash just because it's a money-grubbing evil corporation that expects them to pay the employees' wages! Best they can do is not tip and say it's for everyone's own good.

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WingsOfGood
10/31/23 3:12:00 PM
#306:


Unknown5uspect posted...
Doordash corporate HQ is in Tempe, AZ. Nobody wants to organize a protest or anything tho because nobody is about that life.

Easier just to hate on random customers
But also will never change anything so the whining will never end until doordashing makes so little money you all quit or go broke
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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:13:06 PM
#307:


WingsOfGood posted...
Ok? You might not but someone else does

The response is to villify the inevitable?

That is ignorant

You cry about your true enemy the employer
Anyone who has, you know, worked around people can definitely tell you that customers can be the enemy too. They don't have to be Public Enemy #1 to still be an enemy.

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WingsOfGood
10/31/23 3:13:48 PM
#308:


Successful unions/protest actions lately:

Starbucks
UPS
Autoworkers
Writers Guild
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WingsOfGood
10/31/23 3:14:11 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Anyone who has, you know, worked around people can definitely tell you that customers can be the enemy too. They don't have to be Public Enemy #1 to still be an enemy.

And you can change them?
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Funkydog
10/31/23 3:15:27 PM
#310:


America needs to get its act together and kill off companies that enforce tipping culture.

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:16:46 PM
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"I tip, but also tipping is bad and hurts workers and the workers are kind of asking for it since they refuse to strike, without a union, in industries where they are viewed as expendable cattle"

@WingsofGood

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WingsOfGood
10/31/23 3:17:06 PM
#312:


Funkydog posted...
America needs to get its act together and kill off companies that enforce tipping culture.

Or do the workers do it as seen ITT.

Both sure
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Foppe
10/31/23 3:17:07 PM
#313:


hockeybub89 posted...
So employees have no right to get upset at abuse from customers? I feel like there was a time when pretty much everyone was against rude customers, but I guess that doesn't exist anymore. Now it's "Look what your boss made me do!"
...not having the customers pay your salary is abuse now?
The brainwashing is deep in this one.

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RyukSan
10/31/23 3:18:01 PM
#314:


MatzoTov posted...
No one (aside from the corpos/people running the show/abusing tips to avoid paying fair wages) is against the abolishing of tipping.
Add the workers to that list.

The common misconception that is promoted is that tipped workers make less than minimum wage (a sub minimum wage), which is only partially true.

When a workers tips do not meet minimum wage (after their sub wage and tips are accrued), the company is legally bound to make up the difference. If any company is not making up the difference, they are breaking the law. There seems to be this common misconception that companies can legally pay staff a sub minimum even when tips are short and companies have even have gone far as to convince many this misconception. To the point of brainwashing just how much it's not their fault their staff isn't paid enough.

Companies like the system because it saves them money on payroll. Companies usually don't have to worry about tips being short, which would trigger them having to pay the minimum wage rate instead of the sub minimum wage. Also fun fact, some establishments take a cut of the tips for the company instead if the workers. Ya, those kiosk that ask for tips, all of that isn't going to the workers in many establishments.

Many workers favor tipping culture too because many in the industry thanks to the tip system make way more than minimum wage. Instead of making something like 15+/hour thanks to tips, they would go down to the state/federal minimum wage rate, minus tips.
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WingsOfGood
10/31/23 3:18:52 PM
#315:


hockeybub89 posted...
"I tip, but also tipping is bad and hurts workers and the workers are kind of asking for it since they refuse to strike, without a union, in industries where they are viewed as expendable cattle"

WingsofGood

Never said they deserve it.
Said whining does nothing.

I asked you, can you change customers whondon't tip?
You didn't answer

You having a fit and posting that shows me you realize that

You won't and you can't

So why not use that anger energy in a similar way the UAW did and got massive pay raises?
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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:22:02 PM
#316:


WingsOfGood posted...
You whine about customers

Nothing changes

Inflation goes up you make less money

What have you done?

Meanwhile autoworkers got huge increases due to strikes

Hmmm
What I do is work in a non-union field where people are trying to strike not for money, but for help. What I did is join in a mass quit. And you know what changed at that place after I left? Nothing! Things got worse!

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Sandalorn
10/31/23 3:23:38 PM
#317:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I love how it's always the usual suspects, the worst possible people on the board who turn up and scream how it's okay that they refuse to tip service workers.

Egos the size of Mt Fuji


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Funkydog
10/31/23 3:24:13 PM
#318:


WingsOfGood posted...
Or do the workers do it as seen ITT.

Both sure
Wut

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TheOtherMike
10/31/23 3:24:57 PM
#319:


Foppe posted...
...not having the customers pay your salary is abuse now?
The brainwashing is deep in this one.

Customers pay the employees' salaries regardless. If not through gratuity, it would be through base price increases.

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Mr_Karate_II
10/31/23 3:26:32 PM
#320:


ScazarMeltex posted...
If you don't want to tip the person bringing the food then go fucking get it yourself.
There's multiple reasons why someone might not be able to get it themselves, they might not be able to drive or are disabled and have no way to go get the food or go the store or they might only have enough to cover the food and the fees. There's many reasons why someone can't go get it themselves or can't tip.

Don't assume people are just lazy

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:30:02 PM
#321:


Foppe posted...
...not having the customers pay your salary is abuse now?
The brainwashing is deep in this one.
You people just don't have any empathy and don't actually give a single fuck about changing the world. You just want to stop tipping. Once you don't have an expected 15% gratuity, the endless suffering of service workers will disappear out of your heads. People can't boycott DoorDash or Olive Garden or whoever outright because reasons, but they can boycott tips! "I'll overpay you for restaurant food and other luxuries that you artificially raise prices on, but I'm not going to give your employees tips! I have to spend money on unneccessary bullshit, but tips go against my principles!" Shit, I wish more of money went directly to paying those workers. At least they deserve it.

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eggcorn
10/31/23 3:31:39 PM
#322:


If you're pro tip culture you're just not capable of seeing a bigger picture.

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:32:27 PM
#323:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
There's multiple reasons why someone might not be able to get it themselves, they might not be able to drive or are disabled and have no way to go get the food or go the store or they might only have enough to cover the food and the fees. There's many reasons why someone can't go get it themselves or can't tip.

Don't assume people are just lazy
Damn he assumed people were lazy when 5% actually have good reasons. Bet he feels dumb now.

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DarkBuster22904
10/31/23 3:34:13 PM
#324:


eggcorn posted...
If you're pro tip culture you're just not capable of seeing a bigger picture.
Literally nobody is "pro tip culture."

The only point of contention is whether deliberately starving some of the already poorest workers in the country out of their income is the best way to fix it.

No, it's not right that customers are paying wages that should come from the company. But, for now, that's how it is, and knowingly withholding that money exclusively from the people who need it, while still paying the overlords creating the problem, is still an asshole move.

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:34:25 PM
#325:


eggcorn posted...
If you're pro tip culture you're just not capable of seeing a bigger picture.
I'm just pro tipping until we change society to where there is no need. Not tipping isn't going to eliminate tipping. It's just going to get people fired.

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ChocoboMog123
10/31/23 3:35:24 PM
#326:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
There's multiple reasons why someone might not be able to get it themselves, they might not be able to drive or are disabled and have no way to go get the food or go the store or they might only have enough to cover the food and the fees. There's many reasons why someone can't go get it themselves or can't tip.

Don't assume people are just lazy
Why's this disingenuous BS always come back? There's services for people who are disabled, public transit/walking for people who can't drive. If you can afford paying $10 for a single $5 latte at Starbucks, you can afford to tip.

99% of people on DoorDash are just lazy. To be generous, "they're paying for the convenience of not picking up their own food." But it's more likely they want to sit home playing video games, hanging with family, or watching Netflix. Nothing wrong with that, but that doesn't ENTITLE you to these drivers' labor.

You're not making some grand statement by not tipping. Talk to your representative in government if you want to address the problem. But saving $5 on delivery doesn't make you a good person. Don't like to tip? Don't use the app.

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Lil_Bit83
10/31/23 3:36:21 PM
#327:


hockeybub89 posted...
Found the guy who cussed at workers because "This is a free country. I can use whatever language I want"

I hope you believe in God or something so at least divine punishment keeps you behaving even if you view social contacts and non-binding. You should become a CEO of one of these companies since human compassion is as foreign to you as it is them. I hope every employee you even encounter gives you terrible service. No one is going to take customer abuse just because "It's not my fault you work for a company that doesn't mandate that customers treat you like human beings. Take it up with them!"
You love putting words in people's mouths and accusing them of things they did not say. You're a bundle of negative energy and just want to pick a fight all day.

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Foppe
10/31/23 3:39:34 PM
#328:


TheOtherMike posted...
Customers pay the employees' salaries regardless. If not through gratuity, it would be through base price increases.
Which wont happen because of the tipping brainwashing.

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Luteo
10/31/23 3:39:37 PM
#329:


HashtagSEP posted...
Imagine trying to argue that you should be able to not tip for DoorDash. Somebody is going to get your food for you because your cheap ass is too lazy to go get it yourself, and youre going to complain about being asked to tip?
@GATTJT
@Flauros
@andel
@Torgo
@dancing_cactuar
@Conflict

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Mr_Karate_II
10/31/23 3:44:25 PM
#330:


ChocoboMog123 posted...
Why's this disingenuous BS always come back? There's services for people who are disabled, public transit/walking for people who can't drive. If you can afford paying $10 for a single $5 latte at Starbucks, you can afford to tip.

99% of people on DoorDash are just lazy. To be generous, "they're paying for the convenience of not picking up their own food." But it's more likely they want to sit home playing video games, hanging with family, or watching Netflix. Nothing wrong with that, but that doesn't ENTITLE you to these drivers' labor.

You're not making some grand statement by not tipping. Talk to your representative in government if you want to address the problem. But saving $5 on delivery doesn't make you a good person. Don't like to tip? Don't use the app.
Drivers aren't entitled to a tip, period. I helped my sister do door dash for at least 6 months, not once did we have the attitude like a lot of drivers seem to have. We never acted like we're entitled to tips,because we knew we weren't. Did no tip orders suck? Sure but usually other orders made up for it or we'd get cash tips.

The point is, yes some people don't just want to tip BUT there's multiple reasons why someone might not be able to tip and that's ok because drivers aren't entitled to a tip, period.

Want to make a liveable wage? Go get a different job because trying to live on doing door dash and similar apps is a dumb idea. It's good for extra money but it's not going to make you a liveable wage.

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Flauros
10/31/23 3:44:59 PM
#331:


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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:46:48 PM
#332:


Lil_Bit83 posted...
You love putting words in people's mouths and accusing them of things they did not say. You're a bundle of negative energy and just want to pick a fight all day.
Not tipping is no different than ignoring any other social contract and abusing an employee because "Treating you like a human and following the Golden rule is a suggestion, not a mandate." People were acting like workers can't get mad at customers because their employer is the one fucking them over in the first place. Normal people with feelings and dignity are going to be mad at both those customers AND their employer.

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Foppe
10/31/23 3:47:22 PM
#333:


hockeybub89 posted...
You people just don't have any empathy and don't actually give a single fuck about changing the world. You just want to stop tipping. Once you don't have an expected 15% gratuity, the endless suffering of service workers will disappear out of your heads. People can't boycott DoorDash or Olive Garden or whoever outright because reasons, but they can boycott tips! "I'll overpay you for restaurant food and other luxuries that you artificially raise prices on, but I'm not going to give your employees tips! I have to spend money on unneccessary bullshit, but tips go against my principles!" Shit, I wish more of money went directly to paying those workers. At least they deserve it.
My emphathy is that my country have taken the fight, and won.
Our workers have a salary that they can live on.
Tipping does not exist.
No food chain got destroyed by it, and food is affordable at a higher quality.
We paid a big price for it many generations ago, but at least you got laws that should prevent your workers from being killed.

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Yo_D_oY
10/31/23 3:48:37 PM
#334:


ScazarMeltex posted...
If you don't want to tip the person bringing the food then go fucking get it yourself.
No thanks. Delivery apps can charge me more and then I can determine if it's still worth it. Tip culture is a joke.

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Sandalorn
10/31/23 3:52:16 PM
#335:


HashtagSEP posted...
Imagine trying to argue that you should be able to not tip for DoorDash. Somebody is going to get your food for you because your cheap ass is too lazy to go get it yourself, and youre going to complain about being asked to tip?


Don 't forgot the galaxy brain take that it is the people not protesting in front of DoorDash everyday that are the real villians here.

"I can't get off my fat ass to get my own food but the real bad people are those not willing to protest in front of a DoorDash everyday!!!"

The quality of human you are dealing with writ large.

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:52:26 PM
#336:


Foppe posted...
Which wont happen because of the tipping brainwashing.
How the fuck do you think not tipping innocent people is going to convince the companies to change? They don't give a shit. Not tipping is akin to changing your social media avatar to a flag, just the most token useless activism. You couldn't make less of an effort. This is why no one believes people refuse to tip out of some desire to fix society.

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Sandalorn
10/31/23 3:55:04 PM
#337:


hockeybub89 posted...
How the fuck do you think not tipping innocent people is going to convince the companies to change? They don't give a shit


We all know it just a lame ass excuse. NO ONE doesn't tip because they are trying to change the tipping environment. It's just what bad people tell themselves when they hurt employees that rely on tips. It's why it is not a shock when you see the usernames of those trying to pass that lie on.

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CE_gonna_CE
10/31/23 3:56:11 PM
#338:


To all those looking to enact a change with how DoorDash compensates their drivers, I implore you to gather $15B and buy over half of the outstanding shares of the company. Then you will have majority control and can start implementing these changes.

Short of doing that, aint no one at DoorDash gonna give a fucking shit or change jack shit.

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 3:57:46 PM
#339:


Foppe posted...
My emphathy is that my country have taken the fight, and won.
Our workers have a salary that they can live on.
Tipping does not exist.
No food chain got destroyed by it, and food is affordable at a higher quality.
We paid a big price for it many generations ago, but at least you got laws that should prevent your workers from being killed.
Did your country change it by everyone just deciding to not tip one day? If not, then how the hell do you think it would work in America?

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Flauros
10/31/23 3:58:02 PM
#340:


FR though, just dont use delivery services if youre gonna bitch about all the fees and tip shit.

Its not like they sneak the charge on your card. You KNOW its gonna be at least 10 bucks + up charges for the food.

Go get it yourself or eat the cost.

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Tanthalas
10/31/23 3:59:44 PM
#341:


I hope tipping culture never reaches Portugal.

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ironman2009
10/31/23 4:00:09 PM
#342:


Posting again just so this shitshow closes slightly faster

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 4:02:05 PM
#343:


Yo_D_oY posted...
No thanks. Delivery apps can charge me more and then I can determine if it's still worth it. Tip culture is a joke.
So fuck the companies for tip culture, but you'll still pay their nonsensical service fees and artificially inflated cost of goods?

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TheOtherMike
10/31/23 4:05:46 PM
#344:


Foppe posted...
Which wont happen because of the tipping brainwashing.

This is nonsense as a response to what I said. Here, let me dumb it down.

You go to a restaurant. The meal you order is $20. You're expected to tip, so you tip 20%, bringing your total to $24.

You go to a restaurant. The meal you order is $24 because you aren't expected to tip, and the restaurant charges more and pays the server an appropriate wage (Realistically the employer pays the server minimum wage and pockets the additional revenue).

In both scenarios you're paying the same amount. The only real difference is that in your preferred scenario the employee will almost certainly make less.

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pnut027
10/31/23 4:06:16 PM
#345:


Smashingpmkns posted...
"The problem is DoorDash they're an evil company taking advantage of workers"

Okay stop using it then

"No"

Lmao refusing to tip isn't a form of protest or isn't sticking it to DoorDash. The only people getting hurt from that is the driver. And not tipping en masse isn't going to cause drivers to quit, it'll just make the drivers work more to make up for the lack of tips.

Yes DoorDash sucks, but so do people who recognize that and still refuse to tip while using their service. Just stop using it! It's easy.
I dont use the services.

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Gremlynn
10/31/23 4:17:50 PM
#346:


is this a good time to bring up every $0.00 tip i've ever gotten is from the most demanding and needy customers?


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Rika_Furude
10/31/23 4:29:03 PM
#347:


What if a delivery driver doesnt get a tip, and instead once they get to the customers house they light a trash can on fire or smash all the customers windows? Still the customers fault for ordering some food right?
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ironman2009
10/31/23 4:29:36 PM
#348:


Rika_Furude posted...
What if a delivery driver doesnt get a tip, and instead once they get to the customers house they light a trash can on fire or smash all the customers windows? Still the customers fault for ordering some food right?
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hockeybub89
10/31/23 4:31:55 PM
#349:


Rika_Furude posted...
What if a delivery driver doesnt get a tip, and instead once they get to the customers house they light a trash can on fire or smash all the customers windows? Still the customers fault for ordering some food right?
I believe that would mean they overreacted to a shitty customer and committed several crimes.

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Rika_Furude
10/31/23 4:33:01 PM
#350:


hockeybub89 posted...
I believe that would mean they overreacted to a shitty customer and committed several crimes.
How is that different from spitting in their food?
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