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TheSultanOfSlam
10/29/23 10:22:07 PM
#101:


Crescent-Moon posted...
What?
Seems like he is more or less having PTSD for a past game but then he continued to talk so it does not seem as important now

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:22:40 PM
#102:


wallmasterz posted...
Which post would that be? I looked back at all your posts and its unclear which you mean.

Thats my entire point it means nothing.
Ben immediately townconfirmed people on this argument like 8 posts in the game.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/29/23 10:23:07 PM
#103:


wallmasterz posted...
Which post would that be? I looked back at all your posts and its unclear which you mean.

Thats my entire point it means nothing.


That is what I've been saying but apparently it don't matter to anyone.

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PeaceFrog
10/29/23 10:23:48 PM
#104:


wallmasterz posted...
Which post would that be? I looked back at all your posts and its unclear which you mean.

wallmasterz posted...
Which post would that be? I looked back at all your posts and its unclear which you mean.

Thats my entire point it means nothing.
Not your quote in particular, just the thing about day actions probably existing in the game.

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:24:47 PM
#105:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Ben immediately townconfirmed people on this argument like 8 posts in the game.
Of course Ulti did basically the same thing Ben did on page 2 but it felt like Ulti being Ulti more than something scummy.

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EDumey
10/29/23 10:28:11 PM
#106:


I don't know what Sultan is talking about. This is nothing about a specific game. I'm looking at this game only.

Crescent, I disagree. I don't really know what else I can say other than that. I think we should be able to ask questions about specific mechanics of the game we're in with the one player that has openly claimed something, without it being scum intent. I thought I stated clearly why I wanted to know. I also recognized that it was a question he might not want to answer. Red could choose to answer or not if he pleased.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/29/23 10:30:04 PM
#107:


EDumey posted...
I don't know what Sultan is talking about. This is nothing about a specific game. I'm looking at this game only.

Crescent, I disagree. I don't really know what else I can say other than that. I think we should be able to ask questions about specific mechanics of the game we're in with the one player that has openly claimed something, without it being scum intent. I thought I stated clearly why I wanted to know. I also recognized that it was a question he might not want to answer. Red could choose to answer or not if he pleased.

Exactly I misunderstood I thought you were saying you were paranoid due to Lea's game then you kept talking

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Chaeix
10/29/23 10:32:51 PM
#108:


wow I went to get and smoke a joint and a whole page appeared. will read through properly shortly but I needed to make a joke before I forget

if there are traits in this game is it really mafia or is it a game of traitors?

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:34:57 PM
#109:


Ok JC is being snarky in a town that doesn't really care yet way got the reason I'm townvibing on him.

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IfGodCouldDie
10/29/23 10:39:25 PM
#110:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
You said you were going to lay out why Creasent is scum so I was waiting. Youre no fun.
Her reactions to me and Sbell, her reactions to Ben about me and Sbell, her reactions about her PM all don't sit as organic reactions to the game thus far.

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:39:40 PM
#111:


Anyways I didn't read the opening posts like usual and I'm inquiring now to figure out what "Trait" is even supposed to mean and what mine is even supposed to be because I feel like I have way more questions than answers about something that's apparently part of the game.

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Chaeix
10/29/23 10:40:26 PM
#112:


believe it or not I have more thoughts than I normally would after 2 pages, Im just going to type them up when Im back on my computer

Im ready to pounce this game

note that I do not know the flavor of this game so if there are any catgirls I am not flavor hinting a catgirl

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:41:32 PM
#113:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Her reactions to me and Sbell, her reactions to Ben about me and Sbell, her reactions about her PM all don't sit as organic reactions to the game thus far.
Funny, nothing about Ben's opening has felt remotely organic to me~

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:41:58 PM
#114:


Chaeix posted...
believe it or not I have more thoughts than I normally would after 2 pages, Im just going to type them up when Im back on my computer

Im ready to pounce this game

note that I do not know the flavor of this game so if there are any catgirls I am not flavor hinting a catgirl
Meow

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IfGodCouldDie
10/29/23 10:42:58 PM
#115:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Maybe if someone else says the same thing I've been saying we can move on lol
See and this is why you don't vibe well either. When I made my post I was talking about my initial reaction to my PM as I assume Sbell was. It isn't talking about our reactions to our PMs at the start of the game as you two are treating it. Neither Sultan or Crescent fell good right now.

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:44:48 PM
#116:


Oh and for the record I'm pretty sure scum IGCD doesn't immediately gun me at the very start of a game which is an actually good reason to call him town.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/29/23 10:45:43 PM
#117:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
See and this is why you don't vibe well either. When I made my post I was talking about my initial reaction to my PM as I assume Sbell was. It isn't talking about our reactions to our PMs at the start of the game as you two are treating it. Neither Sultan or Crescent fell good right now.

Well mine is more or less not about you're reactions but Ulti and Ben automatically clearing you for the reactions it's NI. Beacuse they can be faked. Even at that I feel like everyone in the game is probably confused by their PMs and that is also NI.

Why do I feel like no one understands this

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:46:05 PM
#118:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
See and this is why you don't vibe well either. When I made my post I was talking about my initial reaction to my PM as I assume Sbell was. It isn't talking about our reactions to our PMs at the start of the game as you two are treating it. Neither Sultan or Crescent fell good right now.
All I did was state my reaction to the PM on the very moment I got it, because my reaction didn't match the reactions you and SBell claimed at all, aka the reaction Ben was buddying up to you over.

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:47:09 PM
#119:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Well mine is more or less not about you're reactions but Ulti and Ben automatically clearing you for the reactions it's NI. Beacuse they can be faked. Even at that I feel like everyone in the game is probably confused by their PMs and that is also NI.

Why do I feel like no one understands this
Ulti doing this is Ulti being Ulti and is null to me. Ulti throws clears around like crazy as either alignment.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/29/23 10:48:46 PM
#120:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Ulti doing this is Ulti being Ulti and is null to me. Ulti throws clears around like crazy as either alignment.
That's true but it's such a bad reason and it was driving me nuts

Okay time to move on lol

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Crescent-Moon
10/29/23 10:57:24 PM
#121:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
That's true but it's such a bad reason and it was driving me nuts

Okay time to move on lol
Yep.

Also I would like to hear a comment from Wall about a topic other than this. You made the same comments, but you've also said other things.

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IfGodCouldDie
10/29/23 11:08:51 PM
#122:


I will state for the record, Crescents attack on Dumey has me feeling better about her, not because I think he is scummy but because she is starting to come across as wrong town. So I am retracting my scum read of her, in turn it does make me feels worse about Sultan because it seems like he is egging her on to the wrong things intentionally.

##Unvote
##Vote: Sultan

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wallmasterz
10/29/23 11:09:52 PM
#123:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Yep.

Also I would like to hear a comment from Wall about a topic other than this. You made the same comments, but you've also said other things.

I am still riding high from the Jags W today and been hanging with my wife so Im not super mentally checked into the game quite yet. From a vibes perspective, Im picking up town from sbell. I feel peaf is coming across a little awkward so far.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/29/23 11:14:53 PM
#124:


wallmasterz posted...
I am still riding high from the Jags W today and been hanging with my wife so Im not super mentally checked into the game quite yet. From a vibes perspective, Im picking up town from sbell. I feel peaf is coming across a little awkward so far.

##Vote:wallz.

This whole post I do not like.


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Chaeix
10/29/23 11:19:54 PM
#125:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
##Vote:wallz.

This whole post I do not like.
how come?

i dont like it either but probably for different reasons so I am curious

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/29/23 11:23:49 PM
#126:


Chaeix posted...
how come?

i dont like it either but probably for different reasons so I am curious
I am falling asleep lol but.
1.sebll posted 4 times and none of which have much of anything and to have "picking up town Sbell" how? Where?

Peaf posted twice 1 mechanics thanks one just general comment
Coming off as awkward seems a bit much?

Like almost like oh shit I got called out on activity let me throw this together

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wallmasterz
10/29/23 11:35:07 PM
#127:


I may not be the most senior mafia player but Im very good at reading sbell. I have pegged him as scum based on his first 2-3 posts multiple times now. Hes coming across very relaxed/natural.

We are 2.5 hours into the game. Im certainly not feeling pressure to avoid inactivity when some
people havent even checked in yet. I could easily tell crescent to ask me later and have it be perfectly valid. But sbell seeming town is a legit read of mine.

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EDumey
10/29/23 11:35:56 PM
#128:


As far as other reads go, I will say that I don't agree with Ben that SBell and IGCD are confirmed town because of their first posts. I think it's totally possible to have premeditated those reactions, especially since we have no idea what type of info scum team has. For all we know, they could have been told town was called SOLO QUEUE before the topic was even posted.

I do think that clearing people on something like that is a very standard Ben play though. Lean town on Ben specifically for that interaction.

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Ashethan
10/29/23 11:49:09 PM
#129:


wallmasterz posted...
I may not be the most senior mafia player but Im very good at reading sbell. I have pegged him as scum based on his first 2-3 posts multiple times now. Hes coming across very relaxed/natural.

Have you pegged him as town based on his first 2-3 posts before? Or just scum? Have there been games where you missed him being scum?

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Chaeix
10/30/23 12:09:24 AM
#130:


Alright let's get ripping because I am ripped.

wallz

I have a soft spot for wallz. I do. His shitpost ceiling is high and I have sometimes literally lol'd. I thought his entrance here was somewhat subdued. Where was the snark? And I don't like his next post not quite because of why Sultan disliked it, but because my confirmation bias makes it seem even stranger that wallz wasn't in a snarky frame of mind because he was BUZZING off a sports team win. where's the 'fuck you, my team won, i'm out *mic drop*' moment that we, the people, deserve?

ulti

ulti has allegedly townlocked 4 people based off of *checks notes* having the same reaction to something. it's a town tell for the first person at best, the rest are just dust in the wind because at that point any doubt scum may have thought of that reaction is gone. he seems more like a pantomime of ulti as opposed to actual ulti, not the biggest fan.

dumey

i actually don't mind dumey asking red for more details, it's kind of ballsy and i like the way that he backed it up with logic in the form of an actual callback instead of it just being arbitrary. dumey's in my town camp. welcome, dumey. i will not be joining in trying to procure the same details because quite frankly i share crescent's criticism of the reasoning but i don't think it makes him scum.

crescent

i think crescent is wrong about dumey as i just explained, but she's in the town camp. i like the fire behind the vote.

IGCD

looking like he's playing as very fluid town or scum who wants to just move his vote around so much that it's mostly meaningless in later votals (who wants to pretend to be fluid town)

was there content in there? you be the judge

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Corrik7
10/30/23 12:12:41 AM
#131:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Also green checking Justin.

Found someone that failed the vibe check tho.

##Vote: Ashethan

Just claim now and save yourself a headache. I have a very good track record of catching scum topic 1 page 1.
##vote: Ashe

See you day 2.

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Chaeix
10/30/23 12:14:57 AM
#132:


corrik is that your read aligning with ulti's read, or you trusting ulti

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Isquen
10/30/23 12:38:12 AM
#133:


VOTALS
Dumey [2]: Ulti, Crescent
Sultan [1]: IGCD,
Wallz [1]: Sultan
Ashethan [1]: (Ulti), Corrik
Crescent [0]: (IGCD)

With 17 alive, there is a majority of 9 votes required to instantly condemn a player. Day 1 ends at 9:00 pm on Tuesday, October 31st. Day actions are due by 9:00 pm on Monday, October 30th. (Both times in Eastern US time zone, just over 44/20 hours from now, respectively)

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UltimateBrohan
10/30/23 1:34:30 AM
#134:


Obellisk posted...
Anyone else think they rolled an indy survivor until they learned that was the name of town?

I'm probably going to be a hindrance and/or nuisance to town this game. So let that simmer for a bit.

Happy Hunting. Let's do it.
Yeah sbell town 100%
Most likely igcd too 85%
And probably Ben but not as certain 60%
My thought process went yes indy -> fuck yes mafia -> fuck town.
Also just way too much flavor for me im not reading all that shit but im happy for you/sorry that happened

EDumey posted...
As far as other reads go, I will say that I don't agree with Ben that SBell and IGCD are confirmed town because of their first posts. I think it's totally possible to have premeditated those reactions, especially since we have no idea what type of info scum team has. For all we know, they could have been told town was called SOLO QUEUE before the topic was even posted.

I do think that clearing people on something like that is a very standard Ben play though. Lean town on Ben specifically for that interaction.
##Vote: EDumey
I totally agree with Ulti, hated that first Edumey post and this one even more. Tho idk what vibes he got from Ashe im not seeing it.
Im also getting bad vibes from Sultan and good ones from JC.


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red13n
10/30/23 2:38:56 AM
#135:


I thought Sultan was scum last game for being inattentive and quiet. Hes the opposite here but I don't think I'm suddenly going to start immediately thinking hes scum for that.

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htaeD
10/30/23 3:16:08 AM
#136:


Can I be in the catclub since I have 2 new kittens now?
No? yes?

Either way good morning.
I know nothing about Dead By Daylight which may make this question to EDumey more or less dumb. But I want to hear him answer it.

Why ask Red about his traits and role name first? Why not ask about his flavor?

Other thoughts I have:
I like Ben calling people townconfirmed early. I dont feel like he was trying to buddy up to anyone, it came across to me unforced BookofBen behavior. I can see why he (and later Ulti) would use that logic.
Dont really think the logic is fullproof myself tho. But at the very least it does make IGCD and Sbell less likely to be scum together.
I also am not clear on why Crescent was put in the same category as IGCD and Sbell either.

I dislike Sultan. Like I said, I can understand some skepticism in the confirmations. But it feels like Sultan is trying too hard to undermine Ben, as if he reeeeeeally does not want to lose those people as suspects.
Sultan being activate again in itself is explainable though, because he had a big distraction last game. So thats a nultell to me here.

And a minor thing
I dont remember a single thing about Ashethan. But I am surprised Ashe's memory seems to be good enough that he can claim that Ulti's been wrong about him in that far off past of mafia games.

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wallmasterz
10/30/23 5:12:41 AM
#137:


EDumey posted...
For all we know, they could have been told town was called SOLO QUEUE before the topic was even posted.

Isquen stated this first post and some of us have referenced this. Apparently this idea just sprung to mind organically/organically for you >_>

In theory I agree with you about not letting a miller claim go unquestioned but the way you went about it felt scummy. For now at least,

##Vote: Dumey

Dumey, what are your impressions so far? Youve been in defense mode since your opening post with good reason. But lets get some thoughts from you beyond just that.

Ashethan posted...
Have you pegged him as town based on his first 2-3 posts before? Or just scum? Have there been games where you missed him being scum?

Yes, once before I pegged sbell as town quickly. Opportunities are scarce because he rolls scum much more often. I dont think I have missed him being scum ever since he and I were scum together, but it hasnt always been an immediate realization. I guess the point is regardless of when I develop a read on him, once I do, its been right.
Chaeix posted...
Alright let's get ripping because I am ripped.

wallz

where's the 'fuck you, my team won, i'm out *mic drop*' moment that we, the people, deserve?

Stick around after town wins this game. Ill be riding high then too and Ill post this + go dunk on the scum board and what not. There may be virtual dabbing. I could dabble in dabbing.

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Corrik7
10/30/23 5:14:55 AM
#138:


That's not Brohan.

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UltimateBrohan
10/30/23 5:46:45 AM
#139:


cUm

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htaeD
10/30/23 5:51:36 AM
#140:


Sounds convincing to me

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Corrik7
10/30/23 6:00:56 AM
#141:


That's brohan

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red13n
10/30/23 6:58:59 AM
#142:


It was in fact established to be brohan.

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Crescent-Moon
10/30/23 7:04:54 AM
#143:


Ok I expected more than like 20 posts overnight.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
I will state for the record, Crescents attack on Dumey has me feeling better about her, not because I think he is scummy but because she is starting to come across as wrong town. So I am retracting my scum read of her, in turn it does make me feels worse about Sultan because it seems like he is egging her on to the wrong things intentionally.

##Unvote
##Vote: Sultan
Gonna need an explanation for this one, because this is directly defending Dumey by calling me "wrong", but you've never given any reason that actually justifies defending him.

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Crescent-Moon
10/30/23 7:06:37 AM
#144:


htaeD posted...
Can I be in the catclub since I have 2 new kittens now?
No? yes?

Either way good morning.
I know nothing about Dead By Daylight which may make this question to EDumey more or less dumb. But I want to hear him answer it.

Why ask Red about his traits and role name first? Why not ask about his flavor?

Other thoughts I have:
I like Ben calling people townconfirmed early. I dont feel like he was trying to buddy up to anyone, it came across to me unforced BookofBen behavior. I can see why he (and later Ulti) would use that logic.
Dont really think the logic is fullproof myself tho. But at the very least it does make IGCD and Sbell less likely to be scum together.
I also am not clear on why Crescent was put in the same category as IGCD and Sbell either.

I dislike Sultan. Like I said, I can understand some skepticism in the confirmations. But it feels like Sultan is trying too hard to undermine Ben, as if he reeeeeeally does not want to lose those people as suspects.
Sultan being activate again in itself is explainable though, because he had a big distraction last game. So thats a nultell to me here.

And a minor thing
I dont remember a single thing about Ashethan. But I am surprised Ashe's memory seems to be good enough that he can claim that Ulti's been wrong about him in that far off past of mafia games.
KITTENS?!

Sorry I didn't read the rest of the post I just read kittens

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Leafeon13N
10/30/23 7:10:24 AM
#145:


Did we get kitten pictures?
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Crescent-Moon
10/30/23 7:10:40 AM
#146:


Ok read the post now but you said kittens so I demand pictures. Also you don't remember Ashe because he has 3 early posts that say absolutely nothing. I've only given him some benefit of the doubt because I have no idea the last time he's played mafia.

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Crescent-Moon
10/30/23 7:11:33 AM
#147:


Leafeon13N posted...
Did we get kitten pictures?
We get kitten pictures or else

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htaeD
10/30/23 7:39:16 AM
#148:


Leafeon13N posted...
Did we get kitten pictures?


I posted one picture back in the previous game's dead chat discord
Still miss my old cat, but they are very cute.

Here is another picture

https://i.imgur.com/9zLP4Hb.jpg
(I have no idea how embedding works)

Dont let them distract you for too long.

Also crescent I meant that I dont remember how Ashethan played in past games.
Though you are correct in that he hasnt posted much here yet either.

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htaeD
10/30/23 7:41:19 AM
#149:


Oh thats how embedding works

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Crescent-Moon
10/30/23 7:41:37 AM
#150:


KITTENS YAY

Light kitten and dark kitten

THE ULTIMATE KITTEN BATTLE

Tiny lightsabers!

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