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SocialistGamer
10/26/23 3:56:59 PM
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https://tinyurl.com/kbrrab7u
tldr; Monica Rambeau wakes up in a hospital in another universe, and Kelsey Grammar's Beast is there.

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Jagr_68
10/26/23 3:58:56 PM
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Neat. Now I really don't have to watch the movie.

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Nukazie
10/26/23 4:02:09 PM
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marvel movies now rely too much on the post credit scene, might as well not watch the damn movie

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DarthAragorn
10/26/23 4:03:28 PM
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Nukazie posted...
marvel movies now rely too much on the post credit scene, might as well not watch the damn movie
They don't even have any payoff half the time

Looking at you Spider-Man Homecoming

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Simon_Gruber
10/26/23 4:03:43 PM
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Why him and not Nicholas Hoult?
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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 4:04:04 PM
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Nukazie posted...
marvel movies now rely too much on the post credit scene, might as well not watch the damn movie

This seems like such a silly argument, because the post credit scenes are almost never actually truly relevant or necessary to see. They're typically just teasers, to get you excited. It's the movie itself that is going to be important to the story and referenced in other movies.

The post credit scenes are usually just "Here's a tease to X character, or X event, that we're going to literally make a movie about, so you don't actually NEED to see this scene, we just want to get you hyped!"

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Punished_Blinx
10/26/23 4:04:24 PM
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That just sounds sad

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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 4:05:22 PM
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Simon_Gruber posted...
Why him and not Nicholas Hoult?

They presumedly wanted an older, more experienced X-Men for said universe portrayal. That'd be my guess. Maybe to fit in with Hugh Jackman being Wolverine again.

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Hayame_Zero
10/26/23 4:05:36 PM
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"Best we can do is a Last Stand reference."

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lolife67
10/26/23 4:07:02 PM
#10:


Yes, this sounds 100% legit.
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DarthAragorn
10/26/23 4:08:32 PM
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I still remember when Doom was leaked for the Black Panther 2 post credit scene

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Ivynn
10/26/23 4:08:42 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
That just sounds sad


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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 4:09:38 PM
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My guess, assuming this is true, is that

They want to use an older X-Men for a movie purely to sell nostalgia tickets, and then transition to a new/younger team.

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dancing_cactuar
10/26/23 4:54:09 PM
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This gives off the same energy of pathetic desperation Black Adam had when its post credits was leaked.

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Punished_Blinx
10/26/23 5:45:10 PM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
This gives off the same energy of pathetic desperation Black Adam had when its post credits was leaked.

I don't know why I'm here. Something to do with Professor Xavier. We should team up and do some good.

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darkace77450
10/26/23 5:47:50 PM
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SocialistGamer posted...
Kelsey Grammar's Beast is there.

What? That can't be right. Kevin Sorbo told us conservative actors have been blackballed by Hollywood.
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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 5:50:40 PM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
This gives off the same energy of pathetic desperation Black Adam had when its post credits was leaked.

Eh, to be fair, that was something The Rock wanted without getting any kind of confirmation that it'd actually happen. Marvel has, so far, never done anything it didn't intend to follow up on.

One thing Marvel FOR SURE had over DC was oversight/organization. They never did something they didn't intend to follow up on.

EDIT: And, to be fair, that's more DC's fault than Johnson's. If they never intended to follow up on it, they shouldn't have gave it to him, period.

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WingsOfGood
10/26/23 5:52:41 PM
#18:


Where Fassbender and James McAvoy?
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Gobstoppers12
10/26/23 5:55:34 PM
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Oh cool more multiverse nonsense

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Punished_Blinx
10/26/23 5:57:43 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
One thing Marvel FOR SURE had over DC was oversight/organization. They never did something they didn't intend to follow up on.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/9/AACT2jAAE-gr.jpg

To be fair I'm sure they did plan to follow up on this (outside of some random comic nobody read) but the Disney buyout killed those plans.

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dancing_cactuar
10/26/23 5:59:02 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I don't know why I'm here. Something to do with Professor Xavier. We should team up and do some good.
Nah, that wouldn't be pathetic Black Adam energy, that'd be pathetic Morbius energy.

StealThisSheen posted...
Eh, to be fair, that was something The Rock wanted without getting any kind of confirmation that it'd actually happen. Marvel has, so far, never done anything it didn't intend to follow up on.
I meant it radiated energy in terms of "nobody's buying tickets to see our movie, let's 'leak' the postcredits scene so people see the movie just for that" like Angry Joe claims he ended up doing.

Oh, and they never followed up on those HYDRA agents stealing working Pym Particles from Cross during the heist.

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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 6:06:07 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/9/AACT2jAAE-gr.jpg

To be fair I'm sure they did plan to follow up on this (outside of some random comic nobody read) but the Disney buyout killed those plans.

Well, yeah. To be fair, I'm speaking of the current MCU.

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BB_mofo
10/26/23 6:07:05 PM
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Why him?

He's been very open about the fact he's lost a ton of money on bad investments and needs the work, which is why we've been seeing a lot more of him in the media these days.


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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 6:08:19 PM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
Oh, and they never followed up on those HYDRA agents stealing working Pym Particles from Cross during the heist.

That's fair, they haven't followed up on that yet, but then that doesn't hurt my overall argument, either. Regardless, the post credits scenes are not the "only reason" to see a movie, as the poster suggested.

And if you're only buying tickets to see a post credits scene that you can see on the internet, that's... Your own problem. I don't see how "Leak the post credits scene!" is an actual strategy, like you claim. That sounds like tinfoil hat talk.

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Punished_Blinx
10/26/23 6:10:11 PM
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If it is true isn't it a bit oddly out of touch for Marvel? Do they expect people care about him as much as J.K. Simmons as JJJ?

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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 6:11:05 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
If it is true isn't it a bit oddly out of touch for Marvel? Do they expect people care about him as much as J.K. Simmons as JJJ?

Probably, since people reminisce about the original Xmen movies much, much more than the later ones with a different cast.

Like, I'll be honest, myself. When I picture "Movie Xmen Beast," I thought of Grammar far before I thought of Hoult.

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Murphiroth
10/26/23 6:11:34 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/9/AACT2jAAE-gr.jpg

To be fair I'm sure they did plan to follow up on this (outside of some random comic nobody read) but the Disney buyout killed those plans.

This guy is coming back in the next Cap movie actually.
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Smashingpmkns
10/26/23 6:11:42 PM
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This multiverse shit has long overstayed its welcome

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Punished_Blinx
10/26/23 6:30:06 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Probably, since people reminisce about the original Xmen movies much, much more than the later ones with a different cast.

Like, I'll be honest, myself. When I picture "Movie Xmen Beast," I thought of Grammar far before I thought of Hoult.

People reminisce about the first two movies to be specific. He wasn't in any of the good ones.

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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 6:34:06 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
People reminisce about the first two movies to be specific. He wasn't in any of the good ones.

While this is technically true, the first three movies blend together for people, due to the cast, and he was the first portrayal of Beast. There was no Beast in the first two, so they're still clearly banking on nostalgia, in a way.

And if you assume they may be going for an older, more experienced version of the X-Men for whatever appearance they're presumedly setting up for, Grammar fits with a Hugh Jackman Wolverine/etc. more than Hoult does, for example.

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Punished_Blinx
10/26/23 6:40:12 PM
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I guess so.

To me it's like hyping up the return of Topher Grace as Eddie Brock. Nobody actually cares about him. If anything a new rendition would be more interesting to see as it's the character people care about and not the actor.

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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 6:42:02 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I guess so.

To me it's like hyping up the return of Topher Grace as Eddie Brock. Nobody actually cares about him. If anything a new rendition would be more interesting to see as it's the character people care about and not the actor.

They may not care about Grammar specifically, but they may by association, since he's connected to the nostalgia cast. Like I said, while I like Hoult better due to the movies he was in, my mind went to Grammar when I thought "Beast," initially, given the context. Like, I legitimately forgot he WASN'T in the first two, if I'm being honest.

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boxoto
10/26/23 6:43:13 PM
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as much as I would like to see the X-Men in the MCU, I wouldn't be surprised if the payoff was more meaningless than Professor X being in Doctor Strange 2.

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Punished_Blinx
10/26/23 6:43:34 PM
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But we already have Deadpool 3 coming up that's probably gonna have Fox X-Men for the nostalgia.

Not sure what interesting future this is supposed to lead to. Unless Monica having a cameo in Deadpool 3 is supposed to be exciting?

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lolife67
10/26/23 6:44:41 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/9/AACT2jAAE-gr.jpg

To be fair I'm sure they did plan to follow up on this (outside of some random comic nobody read) but the Disney buyout killed those plans.
Bad example since he's actually the bad guy in the upcoming Captain America movie.
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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 6:44:51 PM
#36:


Punished_Blinx posted...
But we already have Deadpool 3 coming up that's probably gonna have Fox X-Men for the nostalgia.

Not sure what interesting future this is supposed to lead to. Unless Monica having a cameo in Deadpool 3 is supposed to be exciting?

I feel like that's the point. Deadpool 3 has Hugh Jackman Wolverine, so I assume (again, if this teaser is real), that they want to build off of that, probably for a one off.

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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 6:45:58 PM
#37:


lolife67 posted...
Bad example since he's actually the bad guy in the upcoming Captain America movie.

I honestly wasn't aware of this, which is funny, since it means my "Marvel never does anything without reason" still technically holds up.

Nice.

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lolife67
10/26/23 6:47:59 PM
#38:


StealThisSheen posted...
I feel like that's the point. Deadpool 3 has Hugh Jackman Wolverine, so I assume (again, if this teaser is real), that they want to build off of that, probably for a one off.
Logan in Deadpool makes perfect sense. Kelsey Grammar interacting with Photon like this makes zero sense.
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Cotton_Eye_Joe
10/26/23 6:52:44 PM
#39:


DarthAragorn posted...
Looking at you Spider-Man Homecoming
That's the point. Captain America trolling.

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Punished_Blinx
10/26/23 6:55:14 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
I feel like that's the point. Deadpool 3 has Hugh Jackman Wolverine, so I assume (again, if this teaser is real), that they want to build off of that, probably for a one off.

Build it off to do what? What's supposed to be exciting or interesting about another X-Men Fox Universe cameo that doesn't really have anything to do with the MCU?

If anything this makes me hope that it isn't real. Otherwise we could start seeing Ben Affleck doing a Daredevil cameo soon.

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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 6:56:29 PM
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lolife67 posted...
Logan in Deadpool makes perfect sense. Kelsey Grammar interacting with Photon like this makes zero sense.

How does Logan in Deadpool make perfect sense, considering he's dead?

Marvel is obviously focusing on the multiverse stuff, here, which makes Kelsey Grammar make as much sense as Hugh Jackman.

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Kitt
10/26/23 6:57:01 PM
#42:


They won't fool me again.

That leaked Black Panther: Wakanda Forever script that popped up months before the movie released said Doom was supposed to show up in a post-credit scene.
The funny thing is, every thing in that leak actually ended up being true except the Doom scene.

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lolife67
10/26/23 7:00:59 PM
#43:


StealThisSheen posted...
How does Logan in Deadpool make perfect sense, considering he's dead?
Because this obviously takes place prior to him dying. Have you actually seen Logan? Jackman is clearly playing a younger version.

Logan also has direct connections to Deadpool, as characters via the X-Men, comics and previous Deadpool films. Beast had zero connection to Monica as a character.
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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 7:03:34 PM
#44:


lolife67 posted...
Because this obviously takes place prior to him dying.

We literally can't say that at all, because every Deadpool movie has taken place in the current age, and so, based on that continuity, we have zero idea why or how Jackman is in the movie. Maybe they do say "Oh, Logan happens way later." Maybe they say it's a multiverse Wolverine. Maybe they just say "Fuck Logan, we're ignoring it."

We have no idea. All we know is that they, purposely, cast an old ass Wolverine. And we can say THAT with certainty, because Hugh Jackman is 55, and he ain't getting any younger.

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lolife67
10/26/23 7:06:35 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
We literally can't say that at all, because every Deadpool movie has taken place in the current age, and so, based on that continuity, we have zero idea why or how Jackman is in the movie. Maybe they do say "Oh, Logan happens way later." Maybe they say it's a multiverse Wolverine. Maybe they just say "Fuck Logan, we're ignoring it."

We have no idea. All we know is that they, purposely, cast an old ass Wolverine.
The set photos make it pretty obvious this isn't post-Logan. We've seen Jackman in costume and he wasn't aged up.
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tremain07
10/26/23 7:08:07 PM
#46:


Is berry gonna play Storm again?

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StealThisSheen
10/26/23 7:08:12 PM
#47:


lolife67 posted...
The set photos make it pretty obvious this isn't post-Logan. We've seen Jackman in costume and he wasn't aged up.

So how do you know that doesn't mean "multiverse Wolverine?" Why are you just assuming it means... Same Wolverine, but before "Logan?" Please explain. Because for all we know, Deadpool 3 is a Wolverine who never even gets to the point of the movie "Logan."

We do know, from this supposed spoiler, that it's a multiverse Beast, so...

EDIT: For all we know, a large plot point of Deadpool 3 could be "Hey, Wolverine! Why the fuck aren't you dead?"

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Raikuro
10/26/23 7:09:49 PM
#48:


Probably just setup for Beast joining the Avengers. Even if they recast they can have her experience with the Fox version allowing her to trust MCU version more and maybe do a Dark Beast twist.
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Murphiroth
10/26/23 7:13:09 PM
#49:


This is also because Beast is often a fairly prominent member of SWORD in the comics. His longtime on and off romance, Abigail Brand, is the commander of SWORD.

So even though it's multiverse stuff there's at least some precedence for Beast being in the cosmic side of things.
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lolife67
10/26/23 7:13:38 PM
#50:


StealThisSheen posted...
So how do you know that doesn't mean "multiverse Wolverine?" Why are you just assuming it means... Same Wolverine, but before "Logan?" Please explain. Because for all we know, Deadpool 3 is a Wolverine who never even gets to the point of the movie "Logan."


We do know, from this supposed spoiler, that it's a multiverse Beast, so...

StealThisSheen posted...
So how do you know that doesn't mean "multiverse Wolverine?" Why are you just assuming it means... Same Wolverine, but before "Logan?" Please explain. Because for all we know, Deadpool 3 is a Wolverine who never even gets to the point of the movie "Logan."

We do know, from this supposed spoiler, that it's a multiverse Beast, so...

EDIT: For all we know, a large plot point of Deadpool 3 could be "Hey, Wolverine! Why the fuck aren't you dead?"
Ok I think I see the miscommunication on my part. I'm talking about a Logan that is younger, period. So basically using him prior to his death in Logan.
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