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LightningAce11 10/25/23 12:13:07 AM #1:	George RR Martin did an author event with author Cassandra Claire of The Mortal Instruments series. She was talking about the prospect of her book coming out in March 2025 and apparently someone in the audience complained. Then George said "that still may beat Winds of Winter, who the hell knows." https://en.as.com/meristation/news/george-rr-martin-on-winds-of-winter-you-guys-dont-have-to-pester-me-about-it-n/ Just say youre done with it. --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:976846023] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote><quote>George RR Martin did an author event with author Cassandra Claire of The Mortal Instruments series. She was talking about the prospect of her book coming out in March 2025 and apparently someone in the audience complained. Then George said "that still may beat Winds of Winter, who the hell knows."</quote>https://en.as.com/meristation/news/george-rr-martin-on-winds-of-winter-you-guys-dont-have-to-pester-me-about-it-n/Just say youre done with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 10/25/23 7:58:15 PM #3:	Bump --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:976860481] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 10/25/23 8:07:50 PM #4:	By 2025 he'll finally get the first paragraph done. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." <cite>Strider102 posted [p:976860650] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>By 2025 he'll finally get the first paragraph done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/25/23 8:08:32 PM #5:	Strider102 posted... By 2035 he'll finally get the first paragraph done. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:976860662] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite><quote>By 2035 he'll finally get the first paragraph done.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass 10/25/23 8:09:51 PM #6:	Strider102 posted... By 2025 he'll finally get the first paragraph done. I know you're joking, but he has released a couple chapters of Winds years ago. I don't think we'll ever see the finished product, though. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Bass posted [p:976860689] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite><quote>By 2025 he'll finally get the first paragraph done.</quote>I know you're joking, but he has released a couple chapters of Winds years ago. I don't think we'll ever see the finished product, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 10/25/23 8:12:01 PM #7:	While I understand he isn't obligated to work on books/storylines based off the behest of his audience, I also just don't get why he seems to intentionally drag it out and not work on it. It almost seems like he does it to keep the meme going and his fans pissed. You'd think an author who wanted this to be his masterpiece would at least work towards an ending, even if the ending isn't everything he envisioned, it'd still serve better than him dying from natural causes with only books 5/7 done. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:976860726] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>While I understand he isn't obligated to work on books/storylines based off the behest of his audience, I also just don't get why he seems to intentionally drag it out and not work on it. It almost seems like he does it to keep the meme going and his fans pissed. You'd think an author who wanted this to be his masterpiece would at least work towards an ending, even if the ending isn't everything he envisioned, it'd still serve better than him dying from natural causes with only books 5/7 done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 10/25/23 8:12:10 PM #8:	https://youtu.be/QpNFqg99dwo?si=zVKsDXPwH_DtXRM0 --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976860727] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/QpNFqg99dwo?si=zVKsDXPwH_DtXRM0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/25/23 8:12:17 PM #9:	Stop. Inviting. Him. To. Events. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:976860730] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Stop. Inviting. Him. To. Events. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLiarParadox 10/25/23 8:33:14 PM #10:	He's done with the whole thing already. He's just waiting to have it posthumously released because he can't handle criticism at this point, especially after D&D intentionally fucked off the show and put a whole new level of pressure on him to deliver something worthwhile. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. <cite>TheLiarParadox posted [p:976861086] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>He's done with the whole thing already. He's just waiting to have it posthumously released because he can't handle criticism at this point, especially after D&D intentionally fucked off the show and put a whole new level of pressure on him to deliver something worthwhile. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 10/25/23 8:34:25 PM #11:	Olive Garden brought back bottomless pasta so George is gonna be busy with that for next few years --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:976861105] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Olive Garden brought back bottomless pasta so George is gonna be busy with that for next few years </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 10/25/23 8:43:01 PM #12:	Bass posted... I know you're joking, but he has released a couple chapters of Winds years ago. I don't think we'll ever see the finished product, though. Because those chapters were cut out of A Dance with Dragons. ADWD's chapters were in turn cut out of A Feast for Crows. Dude has literally not written a complete book in over two decades. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976861233] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Bass posted... </cite><quote>I know you're joking, but he has released a couple chapters of Winds years ago. I don't think we'll ever see the finished product, though.</quote>Because those chapters were cut out of A Dance with Dragons. ADWD's chapters were in turn cut out of A Feast for Crows.Dude has literally not written a complete book in over two decades. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
angeleyes94 10/25/23 8:48:07 PM #13:	https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lle4t4o8EDk --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>angeleyes94 posted [p:976861335] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lle4t4o8EDk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phoro 10/25/23 8:54:47 PM #14:	Meh, I can honestly live without GoT at this point. What I *need* is for Patrick Rothfuss to finish the Kingkiller Chronicle and release Doors of Stone already --- *It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.* - George Carlin <cite>Phoro posted [p:976861480] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Meh, I can honestly live without GoT at this point.What I need is for Patrick Rothfuss to finish the Kingkiller Chronicle and release Doors of Stone already </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 10/25/23 8:57:05 PM #15:	Its best to forget about GoT at this point and focus your attention on (re)reading the Discworld series. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:976861521] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Its best to forget about GoT at this point and focus your attention on (re)reading the Discworld series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchNemo 10/25/23 9:00:34 PM #16:	Kradek posted... , I also just don't get why he seems to intentionally drag it out and not work on it. It almost seems like he does it to keep the meme going and his fans pissed. It's the thing he's most known for and the only thing keeping him relevant. He can let out a chapter once in a blue moon and keep milking it. If he ever flat out said he's not finishing it people would forget about him --- Down with the Signess. <cite>ArchNemo posted [p:976861591] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>, I also just don't get why he seems to intentionally drag it out and not work on it. It almost seems like he does it to keep the meme going and his fans pissed.</quote>It's the thing he's most known for and the only thing keeping him relevant. He can let out a chapter once in a blue moon and keep milking it. If he ever flat out said he's not finishing it people would forget about him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 10/25/23 9:05:46 PM #17:	Baha05 posted... https://youtu.be/QpNFqg99dwo?si=zVKsDXPwH_DtXRM0 God damn it, I wanted to post that. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:976861677] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Baha05 posted... </cite><quote>https://youtu.be/QpNFqg99dwo?si=zVKsDXPwH_DtXRM0</quote>God damn it, I wanted to post that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 10/25/23 9:20:17 PM #18:	ArchNemo posted... It's the thing he's most known for and the only thing keeping him relevant. He can let out a chapter once in a blue moon and keep milking it. If he ever flat out said he's not finishing it people would forget about him I highly doubt that. Game of Thrones, the show, already established his power to do more like when he created a prequel storyline about the Targs and people watched that. Finishing the series wouldn't mean he couldn't milk it anymore, it would just give him more opportunities to do even more with it. At this rate he's going to be known similar to the Wheel of Time author whose reputation is most infamous for dying before he could finish the series. I know that aspect of him far more than I do any detail of his story. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:976861910] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>ArchNemo posted... </cite><quote>It's the thing he's most known for and the only thing keeping him relevant. He can let out a chapter once in a blue moon and keep milking it. If he ever flat out said he's not finishing it people would forget about him</quote>I highly doubt that. Game of Thrones, the show, already established his power to do more like when he created a prequel storyline about the Targs and people watched that. Finishing the series wouldn't mean he couldn't milk it anymore, it would just give him more opportunities to do even more with it.At this rate he's going to be known similar to the Wheel of Time author whose reputation is most infamous for dying before he could finish the series. I know that aspect of him far more than I do any detail of his story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 10/25/23 9:23:11 PM #19:	Kradek posted... I highly doubt that. Game of Thrones, the show, already established his power to do more like when he created a prequel storyline about the Targs and people watched that. Finishing the series wouldn't mean he couldn't milk it anymore, it would just give him more opportunities to do even more with it. I don't think he's saying George is not finishing the series to milk it. I think he's saying that George has no intention of finishing the book, but pretends he is to stay relevant. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:976861951] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>I highly doubt that. Game of Thrones, the show, already established his power to do more like when he created a prequel storyline about the Targs and people watched that. Finishing the series wouldn't mean he couldn't milk it anymore, it would just give him more opportunities to do even more with it.</quote>I don't think he's saying George is not finishing the series to milk it. I think he's saying that George has no intention of finishing the book, but pretends he is to stay relevant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 10/25/23 9:25:49 PM #20:	He's not finishing it. He's old, and he's made his money off of it. Find another fantasy series to read. --- Currently playing: Megaman Collection 1 and 2 Donald Trump: Inmate No. P01135809 <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:976861989] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>He's not finishing it. He's old, and he's made his money off of it.Find another fantasy series to read. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seaman_Prime 10/25/23 9:29:01 PM #21:	Oh oh I know! Never! <cite>Seaman_Prime posted [p:976862051] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Oh oh I know! Never!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 10/25/23 9:30:03 PM #22:	Baha05 posted... https://youtu.be/QpNFqg99dwo?si=zVKsDXPwH_DtXRM0 --- S / K / Y / N / E <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:976862061] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Baha05 posted... </cite><quote>https://youtu.be/QpNFqg99dwo?si=zVKsDXPwH_DtXRM0</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 10/25/23 9:30:49 PM #23:	Phoro posted... Meh, I can honestly live without GoT at this point. What I *need* is for Patrick Rothfuss to finish the Kingkiller Chronicle and release Doors of Stone already Also, The Gentleman Bastard Sequence by Scott Lynch --- Currently playing: Armored Core VI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:976862077] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Phoro posted... </cite><quote>Meh, I can honestly live without GoT at this point.What I need is for Patrick Rothfuss to finish the Kingkiller Chronicle and release Doors of Stone already </quote>Also, The Gentleman Bastard Sequence by Scott Lynch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 10/25/23 9:33:30 PM #24:	Kradek posted... While I understand he isn't obligated to work on books/storylines based off the behest of his audience, I also just don't get why he seems to intentionally drag it out and not work on it. It almost seems like he does it to keep the meme going and his fans pissed. You'd think an author who wanted this to be his masterpiece would at least work towards an ending, even if the ending isn't everything he envisioned, it'd still serve better than him dying from natural causes with only books 5/7 done. I seriously think he trying to pull a "tragic author passes away before finishing his masterpiece" gambit so he can have people speculating on how it could have ended forever, like many classic authors. Never mind that for that to have impact, the author has to have still been writing, not fucked off for a decade. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:976862129] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>While I understand he isn't obligated to work on books/storylines based off the behest of his audience, I also just don't get why he seems to intentionally drag it out and not work on it. It almost seems like he does it to keep the meme going and his fans pissed. You'd think an author who wanted this to be his masterpiece would at least work towards an ending, even if the ending isn't everything he envisioned, it'd still serve better than him dying from natural causes with only books 5/7 done.</quote>I seriously think he trying to pull a "tragic author passes away before finishing his masterpiece" gambit so he can have people speculating on how it could have ended forever, like many classic authors. Never mind that for that to have impact, the author has to have still been writing, not fucked off for a decade. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ironman2009 10/25/23 9:36:21 PM #25:	kneel to the one true king --- THRILLHO <cite>ironman2009 posted [p:976862178] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>kneel to the one true king </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 10/25/23 9:39:09 PM #26:	bsp77 posted... Also, The Gentleman Bastard Sequence by Scott Lynch Also never getting finished --- http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:976862229] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>Also, The Gentleman Bastard Sequence by Scott Lynch</quote>Also never getting finished </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 10/25/23 9:45:34 PM #27:	Kradek posted... I highly doubt that. Game of Thrones, the show, already established his power to do more like when he created a prequel storyline about the Targs and people watched that. Finishing the series wouldn't mean he couldn't milk it anymore, it would just give him more opportunities to do even more with it. At this rate he's going to be known similar to the Wheel of Time author whose reputation is most infamous for dying before he could finish the series. I know that aspect of him far more than I do any detail of his story. Except Robert Jordan actually wrote his damn books, with the longest gap being 4 years because he fucking died from a sudden serious medical condition. He knew that was a possibility and laid out plans for the series to be finished by someone else with as many notes as he could leave behind. Anyone that would actually compare Robert Jordan and GRRM dying without finishing their works is a fucking moron. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976862322] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>I highly doubt that. Game of Thrones, the show, already established his power to do more like when he created a prequel storyline about the Targs and people watched that. Finishing the series wouldn't mean he couldn't milk it anymore, it would just give him more opportunities to do even more with it.At this rate he's going to be known similar to the Wheel of Time author whose reputation is most infamous for dying before he could finish the series. I know that aspect of him far more than I do any detail of his story.</quote>Except Robert Jordan actually wrote his damn books, with the longest gap being 4 years because he fucking died from a sudden serious medical condition. He knew that was a possibility and laid out plans for the series to be finished by someone else with as many notes as he could leave behind. Anyone that would actually compare Robert Jordan and GRRM dying without finishing their works is a fucking moron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dummy420 10/25/23 9:49:23 PM #28:	angeleyes94 posted... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lle4t4o8EDk Damn beat me to it. I've put it in like the last 3 posts where he brings it up. --- Trying is the first step towards failure, so just dont give it a shot and you cant dissapoint. <cite>dummy420 posted [p:976862402] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>angeleyes94 posted... </cite><quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lle4t4o8EDk</quote>Damn beat me to it. I've put it in like the last 3 posts where he brings it up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 10/25/23 9:52:19 PM #29:	DarthAragorn posted... Except Robert Jordan actually wrote his damn books, with the longest gap being 4 years because he fucking died from a sudden serious medical condition. He knew that was a possibility and laid out plans for the series to be finished by someone else with as many notes as he could leave behind. Anyone that would actually compare Robert Jordan and GRRM dying without finishing their works is a fucking moron. Seriously. Jordan vetted Sanderson hard, worked with him extensively while he was still alive, and prepared the hell out of him to finish the series if/when he died. Martin meanwhile has loudly and adamantly maintained that there will be no ghost writer; if he dies, the story goes down with him. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:976862455] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>Except Robert Jordan actually wrote his damn books, with the longest gap being 4 years because he fucking died from a sudden serious medical condition. He knew that was a possibility and laid out plans for the series to be finished by someone else with as many notes as he could leave behind. Anyone that would actually compare Robert Jordan and GRRM dying without finishing their works is a fucking moron.</quote>Seriously. Jordan vetted Sanderson hard, worked with him extensively while he was still alive, and prepared the hell out of him to finish the series if/when he died.Martin meanwhile has loudly and adamantly maintained that there will be no ghost writer; if he dies, the story goes down with him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 10/25/23 9:55:19 PM #30:	DarthAragorn posted... Except Robert Jordan actually wrote his damn books, with the longest gap being 4 years because he fucking died from a sudden serious medical condition. He knew that was a possibility and laid out plans for the series to be finished by someone else with as many notes as he could leave behind. Anyone that would actually compare Robert Jordan and GRRM dying without finishing their works is a fucking moron. That's why Jordan earned his "tragic author passed away before finishing magnum opus" cred and Martin won't! --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:976862499] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>Except Robert Jordan actually wrote his damn books, with the longest gap being 4 years because he fucking died from a sudden serious medical condition. He knew that was a possibility and laid out plans for the series to be finished by someone else with as many notes as he could leave behind. Anyone that would actually compare Robert Jordan and GRRM dying without finishing their works is a fucking moron.</quote>That's why Jordan earned his "tragic author passed away before finishing magnum opus" cred and Martin won't! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 10/25/23 10:10:53 PM #31:	Kradek posted... At this rate he's going to be known similar to the Wheel of Time author whose reputation is most infamous for dying before he could finish the series. I know that aspect of him far more than I do any detail of his story. What a shitty and ignorant comment --- Currently playing: Armored Core VI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:976862742] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>At this rate he's going to be known similar to the Wheel of Time author whose reputation is most infamous for dying before he could finish the series.I know that aspect of him far more than I do any detail of his story.</quote>What a shitty and ignorant comment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 10/25/23 10:11:31 PM #32:	Don't care. Not gonna read it. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:976862751] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Don't care. Not gonna read it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/25/23 10:17:31 PM #33:	Even if he finishes the next book it doesnt matter because hes not finishing the last one --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:976862830] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Even if he finishes the next book it doesnt matter because hes not finishing the last one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 10/25/23 11:09:53 PM #34:	He consulted on the tv show, the tv shows ending is how it's going to end. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:976863603] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>He consulted on the tv show, the tv shows ending is how it's going to end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 10/25/23 11:11:49 PM #35:	We already have the show.we don't need the books --- Let's all please just get along. <cite>lilORANG posted [p:976863629] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>We already have the show.we don't need the books </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 10/25/23 11:12:32 PM #36:	There's also Dune...and while his son took over many think he just made up that his dad wrote the plot for the last few Dune books...mostly because it sucked. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:976863635] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>There's also Dune...and while his son took over many think he just made up that his dad wrote the plot for the last few Dune books...mostly because it sucked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hitokoriX 10/25/23 11:17:38 PM #37:	DarthAragorn posted... Except Robert Jordan actually wrote his damn books, with the longest gap being 4 years because he fucking died from a sudden serious medical condition. He knew that was a possibility and laid out plans for the series to be finished by someone else with as many notes as he could leave behind. Anyone that would actually compare Robert Jordan and GRRM dying without finishing their works is a fucking moron. Came here to say this. Martin wishes he could be Jordan. --- Would you follow a blind man? I would if I was in the dark <cite>hitokoriX posted [p:976863695] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>Except Robert Jordan actually wrote his damn books, with the longest gap being 4 years because he fucking died from a sudden serious medical condition. He knew that was a possibility and laid out plans for the series to be finished by someone else with as many notes as he could leave behind. Anyone that would actually compare Robert Jordan and GRRM dying without finishing their works is a fucking moron.</quote>Came here to say this. Martin wishes he could be Jordan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 10/25/23 11:24:01 PM #38:	I think the show probably deterred him. At first it was the events, then the show catching up and ending the story. Probably must feel like why waste the rest of his life doing something thats a bit different from what people have already seen. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:976863781] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>I think the show probably deterred him. At first it was the events, then the show catching up and ending the story. Probably must feel like why waste the rest of his life doing something thats a bit different from what people have already seen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 10/25/23 11:27:11 PM #39:	https://youtu.be/dSpOjj4YD8c?si=XBkc3F8AVMts3WIz <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:976863826] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/dSpOjj4YD8c?si=XBkc3F8AVMts3WIz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 10/25/23 11:32:05 PM #40:	Phoro posted... Meh, I can honestly live without GoT at this point. What I *need* is for Patrick Rothfuss to finish the Kingkiller Chronicle and release Doors of Stone already This somehow seems less likely lol --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:976863887] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Phoro posted... </cite><quote>Meh, I can honestly live without GoT at this point.What I need is for Patrick Rothfuss to finish the Kingkiller Chronicle and release Doors of Stone already </quote>This somehow seems less likely lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vycebrand2 10/25/23 11:36:31 PM #41:	DarkBuster22904 posted... Seriously. Jordan vetted Sanderson hard, worked with him extensively while he was still alive, and prepared the hell out of him to finish the series if/when he died. Martin meanwhile has loudly and adamantly maintained that there will be no ghost writer; if he dies, the story goes down with him. Martin is a hack. He cribbed alot from Tad Williams Memory, sorrow, and thorn --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- <cite>vycebrand2 posted [p:976863952] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>Seriously. Jordan vetted Sanderson hard, worked with him extensively while he was still alive, and prepared the hell out of him to finish the series if/when he died.Martin meanwhile has loudly and adamantly maintained that there will be no ghost writer; if he dies, the story goes down with him.</quote>Martin is a hack. He cribbed alot from Tad Williams Memory, sorrow, and thorn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phoro 10/25/23 11:37:02 PM #42:	bsp77 posted... Also, The Gentleman Bastard Sequence by Scott Lynch Ugh don't get me starteddddd --- *It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.* - George Carlin <cite>Phoro posted [p:976863961] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>Also, The Gentleman Bastard Sequence by Scott Lynch</quote>Ugh don't get me starteddddd </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phoro 10/25/23 11:37:26 PM #43:	MC_BatCommander posted... This somehow seems less likely lol --- *It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.* - George Carlin <cite>Phoro posted [p:976863966] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite><quote>This somehow seems less likely lol</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 10/25/23 11:57:58 PM #45:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Young Griff is the most egregious omission. Without him, Dany's ~~razing of King's Landing~~ makes less sense. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:976864233] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Young Griff is the most egregious omission. Without him, Dany's razing of King's Landing makes less sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 10/26/23 12:21:18 AM #46:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'd argue the bigger, most glaring omission from the show is Lady Stoneheart. That says, everyone knows that when people refer to "the books will end the same way as the show," they're referring to ~~Mad Queen Dany sacking King's Landing and getting killed hy Jon.~~ Thatmore than any other point is what got people pissed at the show's ending. And to be fair, that is absolutely going to happen. Reading the books, I was calling that one as early as Storm of Swords, maybe even Clash. The key difference is that the books have already done a much better job setting that up, as opposed to D&D who literally ignored all the setup in favor of hero-complex white-savior BS until literally the 11th hour. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:976864533] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'd argue the bigger, most glaring omission from the show is Lady Stoneheart.That says, everyone knows that when people refer to "the books will end the same way as the show," they're referring to Mad Queen Dany sacking King's Landing and getting killed hy Jon. Thatmore than any other point is what got people pissed at the show's ending. And to be fair, that is absolutely going to happen. Reading the books, I was calling that one as early as Storm of Swords, maybe even Clash. The key difference is that the books have already done a much better job setting that up, as opposed to D&D who literally ignored all the setup in favor of hero-complex white-savior BS until literally the 11th hour. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ludwig_Von_2 10/26/23 12:39:56 AM #48:	Kradek posted... I highly doubt that. Game of Thrones, the show, already established his power to do more like when he created a prequel storyline about the Targs and people watched that. Finishing the series wouldn't mean he couldn't milk it anymore, it would just give him more opportunities to do even more with it. At this rate he's going to be known similar to the Wheel of Time author whose reputation is most infamous for dying before he could finish the series. I know that aspect of him far more than I do any detail of his story. Thats not really a fair comparison though. Robert Jordan was fairly consistent in releasing the books and wanted to finish but got sick and passed before he could. I dont think its fair to compare his situation to Martins. --- My luck works best when things are... random. Mat Cauthon from The Dragon Reborn <cite>Ludwig_Von_2 posted [p:976864748] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>I highly doubt that. Game of Thrones, the show, already established his power to do more like when he created a prequel storyline about the Targs and people watched that. Finishing the series wouldn't mean he couldn't milk it anymore, it would just give him more opportunities to do even more with it.At this rate he's going to be known similar to the Wheel of Time author whose reputation is most infamous for dying before he could finish the series. I know that aspect of him far more than I do any detail of his story.</quote>Thats not really a fair comparison though. Robert Jordan was fairly consistent in releasing the books and wanted to finish but got sick and passed before he could. I dont think its fair to compare his situation to Martins. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 10/26/23 12:41:40 AM #49:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I agree with you. Hell, even in the show I never agreed about that particular aspect of the ending sucking. At the end of the day, no matter what Dany did on Essos, she was a temperamental child acting mostly on emotion, armed with nuclear weapons. Freeing slaves and uniting warring clans is all well and good, but essos was 100% a might-makes-right culture, and she was acting with the biggest guns anyone had. She was convinced of her own righteousness, and at the end of the day, for all her talk of a fair world, her "grand plan" was always, from beginning to end, to just ride into Westeros and start torching everybody who disagrees with her. That was literally her solution to every problem. And that worked on Essos because literally everybody there falls in line behind the strongest person, for one reason or another. But considering everybody in Westeros' last memory of the Targaryens was the mad king doing EXACTLY THAT, things were only ever gonna go one way. If anything, the part D&D handled the worst was just having Jon immediately fall for her for no goddamn reason. I mean, by that point she'd done nothing but massacre her way up the countryside and demand everybody swear lifelong fealty oaths. Yet somehow Jon is convinced she's some revolutionary savior? Not inly that, but he's convinced to throw away the wishes of his people, his family, and the freedom his countrymen have been fighting for for years, just for auntie-sex? I don't usually use the word "simp" as an insult, but God damn, son. I have no doubt the story as written by Martin would be LEAGUES better that the hackneyed rush-job we got in the show. Assuming it ever got made. Which it will not be. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:976864769] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I agree with you. Hell, even in the show I never agreed about that particular aspect of the ending sucking. At the end of the day, no matter what Dany did on Essos, she was a temperamental child acting mostly on emotion, armed with nuclear weapons. Freeing slaves and uniting warring clans is all well and good, but essos was 100% a might-makes-right culture, and she was acting with the biggest guns anyone had. She was convinced of her own righteousness, and at the end of the day, for all her talk of a fair world, her "grand plan" was always, from beginning to end, to just ride into Westeros and start torching everybody who disagrees with her. That was literally her solution to every problem. And that worked on Essos because literally everybody there falls in line behind the strongest person, for one reason or another. But considering everybody in Westeros' last memory of the Targaryens was the mad king doing EXACTLY THAT, things were only ever gonna go one way. If anything, the part D&D handled the worst was just having Jon immediately fall for her for no goddamn reason. I mean, by that point she'd done nothing but massacre her way up the countryside and demand everybody swear lifelong fealty oaths. Yet somehow Jon is convinced she's some revolutionary savior? Not inly that, but he's convinced to throw away the wishes of his people, his family, and the freedom his countrymen have been fighting for for years, just for auntie-sex? I don't usually use the word "simp" as an insult, but God damn, son.I have no doubt the story as written by Martin would be LEAGUES better that the hackneyed rush-job we got in the show. Assuming it ever got made. Which it will not be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 10/26/23 7:33:39 AM #50:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] That was a fine place to subvert expectations, a lot of unexpected things can happen in the chaos of a battle, but their execution sucked. Arya killing the Night's King once you set him up as the final overarching antagonist works fine, but she needed to do it like a faceless assassin not a random action hero. Instead of leaping over his army to get to him it would've made more sense for her to wait in the tree like an assassin and let him come to her. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976867530] in George RR ... [t:80602360]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That was a fine place to subvert expectations, a lot of unexpected things can happen in the chaos of a battle, but their execution sucked. Arya killing the Night's King once you set him up as the final overarching antagonist works fine, but she needed to do it like a faceless assassin not a random action hero. Instead of leaping over his army to get to him it would've made more sense for her to wait in the tree like an assassin and let him come to her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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