Current Events > This whole ad blocker thing is pure entitlement.

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People complain that the free service theyre using has ads. When its pointed out that a paid ad free version exists, they complain about that.

Im not sure why yall feel so entitled to free shit. Come on now.

Look at blud over here simping for a corporation imao! Fuck Youtube for that shit I don't know how to get rid of it but I'm not turning off my blocker they can suck my asshole

Wrong. I own my machine. I dictate if ads appear or not.

People don't want to be nickle and dimed for every little thing, surprise surprise. Corporations are already vampires that suck out people's money in every way that they can, and ads are worse as they suck out our time, the one thing we are allotted a finite amount on this earth. Most people work hard enough just to survive and want to relax when they get home and not think about whether they can spend money to not be inconvenienced and have their time wasted.

You may not be entitled to free shit.

But you're entitled to try and obtain free shit using legal means.

Comparisons with piracy and theft miss the mark: an ad blocker is perfectly lawful.

What percentage of people who upload youtube videos actually get paid? I'd have to think it's an extremely small amount.

Those fucks only exist because people volunteer to upload their videos for free. I'm not paying them shit. They're just being greedy now.

Why do some people forget that the other half of their business model is scraping an immense amount of user data and then selling it to other companies? They want me to watch ads, fine, then stop collecting my data. And if they want to keep collecting my data and that's not enough for them to make money, then they can put it behind a paywall and I can make a judgment call as to whether their service is worth my money or not.

Edit: also, Google has been found not liable in court for ads that contain scams or malware. So as long as they're not going to be accountable for the content of the ads they are forcing me to watch, then I don't have to be accountable for whether or not I choose to put my self at risk by watching them.

Company designs a shitty experience and then expects you to pay for a less shittier one, and somehow we're the bad guy

I would turn off adblocker if all ads involved large breasted anime women

MarthGoomba posted...

I would turn off adblocker if all ads involved large breasted anime women

Make that two of us.

Never forget that ads are a major vector for malware and phishing. Maybe people would tolerate ads more if they were actually properly curated for legitimacy and weren't overly intrusive.

The full page ads you get on this site nowadays on mobile? Unacceptable as all hell.

Not everyone can afford Premium, especially when YouTube is a shit service. However, we're entitled to not be scammed by rogue/malicious/scam ads.

s0nicfan posted...

Why do some people forget that the other half of their business model is scraping an immense amount of user data and then selling it to other companies? They want me to watch ads, fine, then stop collecting my data. And if they want to keep collecting my data and that's not enough for them to make money, then they can put it behind a paywall and I can make a judgment call as to whether their service is worth my money or not.

Edit: also, Google has been found not liable in court for ads that contain scams or malware. So as long as they're not going to be accountable for the content of the ads they are forcing me to watch, then I don't have to be accountable for whether or not I choose to put my self at risk by watching them.

So you'd truly be fine with the ads if it was confirmed to not have malware and they didn't sell data?

It's more like, I don't watch the ads anyways so why are you wasting my time with them lol. Respect my time please.

idgaf what any bootlicker says

fuck youtube and ublock deez nuts

If Youtube provided a premium service that cost about half of what they want, I'd consider it.

s0nicfan posted...

Edit: also, Google has been found not liable in court for ads that contain scams or malware.

This alone justifies any and all adblockers for as long as Google exists.

But TC clearly wasn't around for the early ads of the Internet. So obviously they see adblockers as "entitlement".

"Just be rich!"

"You will own nothing and be happy with it!"

Hell, let's use a YouTube example, the other day I was on YouTube using the YouTube mobile app so had ads. I got an ad for some Mr. Beast give away except it was an obvious scam and get nobody at fucking Google was able to catch that before it went out?! Get the fuck out of here, as long as shit like that is happening I'm going to be blocking ads.

Google is entitled and whiny

emblem-man posted...

So you'd truly be fine with the ads if it was confirmed to not have malware and they didn't sell data?

If they didn't have any of those then I wouldn't hold it against the service, because it truly would be the only way they are making money. That doesn't necessarily mean that the quantity of ads they choose to serve will be worth my time, though. For example, on something like Roku where you don't have ad blockers I have absolutely shut down YouTube and gone to do other things because the frequency of ads got to the point where the actual content of the video was no longer worth my time.

But ultimately, it's about a transparent exchange of value. Google complaining about ads while quietly not mentioning the sheer amount of money they make on data collected from usage, combined with the fact that they know they can serve any kind of ad and not be held responsible for it, is just them being misleading about the exchange that is already occurring when somebody uses their service.

s0nicfan posted...

Edit: also, Google has been found not liable in court for ads that contain scams or malware. So as long as they're not going to be accountable for the content of the ads they are forcing me to watch, then I don't have to be accountable for whether or not I choose to put my self at risk by watching them.

Link?

The-Apostle posted...

Link?

It's in their ToS if I'm not mistaken.

Enclave posted...

I got an ad for some Mr. Beast give away except it was an obvious scam and get nobody at fucking Google was able to catch that before it went out?!

Don't forget the scam accounts, pretending to be some other Youtuber, and promising a prize if you contact them outside of Youtube.

Been hearing way too many people licking the boots of big corp here.

No, no, we're not paying for a cure to the disease they created. No, we're not putting up with the Gilded-age horse manure they're trying to pass on, and no, we're not opening ourselves up to malware just to avoid hurting the Richie Rich's fee-fees.

Get over yourself.

There is nothing you can do to stop me from blocking ads and scripts on my computer.

hold that L,op.

CoyoteTheGreat posted...

People don't want to be nickle and dimed for every little thing, surprise surprise. Corporations are already vampires that suck out people's money in every way that they can, and ads are worse as they suck out our time, the one thing we are allotted a finite amount on this earth. Most people work hard enough just to survive and want to relax when they get home and not think about whether they can spend money to not be inconvenienced and have their time wasted.

In addition to this, we've already seen what they intend to do and even the paid service won't be a way to escape ads for long. They will follow Twitter and Amazon as their template... the paid service will become for LESS ads.

And then the "less ads" version will eventually become the amount of ads regular users now see, and the ones non-paying users get bombarded with will be so ludicrous as to make the website unusable for anyone not using ad blockers.

The-Apostle posted...

Link?

https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2023/06/google-isnt-liable-for-scam-ads-ynfante-v-google.htm

The court summarizes: it is plain that Section 230 protects Google from liability in the negligence and false advertising action brought by Mr. Ynfante.

This result reaches the same conclusion that the cited Goddard v. Google case reached 15 years ago, as well as the more recent uncited Calise v. Meta case. It reinforces the simple point: online publishers arent liable for third-party ads. Given the apparent elimination of ad quality standards at Twitter, this ruling is also good news for Musk.

Case citation: Ynfante v. Google LLC, 2023 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 96074 (S.D.N.Y. June 1, 2023)

Youtube doesn't make enough money from ads on content 100% created by users that they simply host on a site... apparently.

Just like you shouldn't fuck a prostitute without a condom, I won't browse the internet without an adblocker.

Cynrascal posted...

Don't forget the scam accounts, pretending to be some other Youtuber, and promising a prize if you contact them outside of Youtube.

That at least is understandably tougher to stop than an actual Google Adsense approved ad. I'm not saying impossible to stop, it's actually pretty easy, just tougher than god damn Google AdSense ads!

s0nicfan posted...

https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2023/06/google-isnt-liable-for-scam-ads-ynfante-v-google.htm

They fuck they're not if they won't monitor or remove it.

Also, if this is the case, then they should be sued for banning adblockers.

What's with all these adblock topics with some folks being smug that they don't use them? Guess it's a real attention giver.

The-Apostle posted...

They fuck they're not if they won't monitor or remove it.

It's the same argument that Facebook and social media uses. They claim that by simply being an aggregator or a marketplace they have no direct control over who chooses to use that platform and therefore it's not their responsibility for what those people choose to do. Which obviously flies in the face of the fact that they do actively choose what content is and isn't allowed on their website, but nevertheless that's the angle they have consistently taken.

I only ever use the internet on my phone anymore so I'm just stuck with them. So far as I could tell googling around there's no equivalently simple way to get rid of them like on PC browsers. It's whatever, I just ignore them.

Southernfatman posted...

What's with all these adblock topics with some folks being smug that they don't use them? Guess it's a real attention giver.

I'm guessing they block ads Google/YouTube pays them to brag about not using them and also tell us we shouldn't use them.

rags_alt posted...

I only ever use the internet on my phone anymore so I'm just stuck with them. So far as I could tell googling around there's no equivalently simple way to get rid of them like on PC browsers. It's whatever, I just ignore them.

Ad blockers for Android have been a thing for like a decade. If you're on iPhone you might be SoL, but I want to say there was a topic recently where somebody said iPhone has one now too.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/6/AAdi41AAE77K.jpg

Ads had their heyday in the 2000s. I'm done with them. Call me entitled, whatever. I don't like ads. I don't want to see ads. Period.

These companies make enough money.

rags_alt posted...

I only ever use the internet on my phone anymore so I'm just stuck with them. So far as I could tell googling around there's no equivalently simple way to get rid of them like on PC browsers. It's whatever, I just ignore them.

Revanced on Android. For advice on iOS, look up r/sideloaded.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/3/AAA4VzAAE769.jpg

rags_alt posted...

I only ever use the internet on my phone anymore so I'm just stuck with them. So far as I could tell googling around there's no equivalently simple way to get rid of them like on PC browsers. It's whatever, I just ignore them.

Firefox Mobile has adblock on Androids at least.

itcheyness posted...

Firefox Mobile has adblock on Androids at least.

Firefox on Android sucks for YouTube (video playback, not adblockers). It was so bad I had to switch to Brave.

the problem is that so many websites with ads go out of their way to make their ads as obnoxious as possible

more than three on a page and at least one autoplaying video. fuck off with this shit

itcheyness posted...

Firefox Mobile has adblock on Androids at least.

O.o

*Goes to check*

The only thing almost as good as my adblock working, is people getting mad that my adblock is working.

rags_alt posted...

O.o

*Goes to check*

Oh dude, I've been enjoying it. This site is unusable on Chrome. Full screen ads, redirects, video popups every 15 seconds or so.

Fandom literally pushed me back to Firefox. Shouldn't have spammed me. Shouldn't have kept annoying me.

Umbreon posted...

Oh dude, I've been enjoying it. This site is unusable on Chrome. Full screen ads, redirects, video popups every 15 seconds or so.

Fandom literally pushed me back to Firefox. Shouldn't have spammed me. Shouldn't have kept annoying me.

Friggin sweet. No idea how this didn't come up when I looked before. Maybe cause I was searching for apps? For whatever reason I was under the impression mobile browsers didn't have plugin support.

Thanks a bunch. Gotta get migrated over to this now. This is gonna be awesome.

I'd been having all those problems here and many more besides elsewhere, most any article I'd try and read would end up locking up and I'd have to just restart the browser all together. And then basically still be racing the clock trying to read an article or find what I needed in it before it happened again.

Maybe if YouTube would stop showing the same damn ads over and over after I said the ads were repetitive. Not to mention the ads the just dont belong to the video theyre shown it.