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A_Good_Boy
10/10/23 7:12:42 PM
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https://youtu.be/2niQQ0BNWkA?si=JRDbkuwjr_7XC6to

I feel like this one had a very reasonable conclusion.

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DrizztLink
10/10/23 7:13:06 PM
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...what

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DirkDiggles
10/10/23 7:17:07 PM
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Oh come on. I know it's going to be Freeza without watching it.
Yep, called it.

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A_Good_Boy
10/10/23 7:19:25 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Oh come on. I know it's going to be Freeza without watching it.
It's not a matter of which of the two was going to win, but more like how much damage could Megatron reasonably do before he loses. Cause Death Battle doesn't always have such drastically one sided fights like this one.

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DarkFists
10/10/23 7:19:53 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Oh come on. I know it's going to be Freeza without watching it.
The next one (Gojo from Jujitsu Kaisen vs Makima from Chainsaw Man) is another obvious victor too and a questionable match up in general...though not as much as this

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Necronmon
10/10/23 7:21:43 PM
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I mean they did not even have him turn to Galvatron or do some of the stronger things he did from shows like Energon...they were not even trying lol.
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A_Good_Boy
10/10/23 7:23:12 PM
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Necronmon posted...
I mean they did not even have him turn to Galvatron or do some of the stronger things he did from shows like Energon...they were not even trying lol.
Isn't Galvatron a different bot than Megatron?

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Necronmon
10/10/23 7:25:46 PM
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I mean, it changes with each series...in the G1 timeline it SEEMED like Megatron and Galvatron were the same even if Galva had a different voice actor.
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DirkDiggles
10/10/23 7:27:02 PM
#9:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Isn't Galvatron a different bot than Megatron?
Unicron changed a about to die Megatron into Galvatron to serve as his slave.

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SSJKirby
10/10/23 7:27:33 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Isn't Galvatron a different bot than Megatron?
Galvatron is usually an upgraded Megatron

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Prestoff
10/10/23 7:30:02 PM
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What a one sided battle.

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Ratchetrockon
10/10/23 7:30:34 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/9/AAZsuhAAE68j.jpg

Ain't no way way frieza is this fast wtf!!!.

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DrizztLink
10/10/23 7:31:55 PM
#13:


Ratchetrockon posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/9/AAZsuhAAE68j.jpg

Ain't no way way frieza is this fast wtf!!!.
And he still uses that fuckin' Bowser AirScooter

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Monferno_AQW
10/10/23 7:36:45 PM
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I went in expecting Megatron to lose. I am surprised he made it so far, though.

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A_Good_Boy
10/10/23 7:38:15 PM
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I feel like they made him draw out Black Frieza just so they could animate it. I doubt Frieza would actually need to push himself that far.

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Prismsblade
10/10/23 7:41:01 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/9/AAZsuhAAE68j.jpg

Ain't no way way frieza is this fast wtf!!!.
They pretty much have DB at infinite speed nowadays, not that they could calc it and thw rest of the series statsat all now. Overall this was just a pity win for dragonball at a minimum, or done purely to maximize views at worst.

Regardless they really should retire dragonball at this point.

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SpiritSephiroth
10/10/23 7:47:34 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Regardless they really should retire dragonball at this point.

We need another anime to continue it

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ellis123
10/10/23 7:49:26 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/9/AAZsuhAAE68j.jpg

Ain't no way way frieza is this fast wtf!!!.
Welcome to a genre all about not actually giving a crap about real world physics.

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Kami_no_Kami
10/10/23 8:06:05 PM
#19:


New battle dropped. My dad vs your dad!
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cjsdowg
10/10/23 8:06:49 PM
#20:


They had me feeling bad for freaking megatron since this was so one sided.

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Irony
10/10/23 8:07:20 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/9/AAZsuhAAE68j.jpg

Ain't no way way frieza is this fast wtf!!!.
He's not they obviously didn't watch Super

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mach25687
10/10/23 8:12:32 PM
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Who the fuck even wanted this match?

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Irony
10/10/23 8:12:57 PM
#23:


mach25687 posted...
Who the fuck even wanted this match?
It's like the last season of Deadliest Warrior where it's just fucking random bullshit

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cjsdowg
10/10/23 8:20:31 PM
#24:


mach25687 posted...
Who the fuck even wanted this match?

Well they are both villain rulers who walk around naked, and are purple and white/gray with red eyes.

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A_Good_Boy
10/10/23 8:20:46 PM
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mach25687 posted...
Who the fuck even wanted this match?
They use scant similarities to come up with these matches, and both of them are space tyrants with purple highlights.

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Ratchetrockon
10/11/23 12:24:05 PM
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ellis123 posted...
Welcome to a genre all about not actually giving a crap about real world physics.

They never seem this fast in the show tho. Like I doubt the author intends for them to be massively faster than light.

Dyspo is the 1st confirmed lightspeed character and frieza n co had somewhat of a difficult time with him. They didn't even beat dyspo with pure speed but with better teamwork and predictions.

But whatever. At least deathbattle consistently scales up every character's speed by like a million+ times so its not a big deal


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AceMos
10/11/23 12:27:32 PM
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reminder death battle says the jojo cast are trillions of times faster than light

even thoe its a major plot point in stone ocean they are NOT even close to that level of speed

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SpiritSephiroth
10/11/23 12:31:51 PM
#28:


Ratchetrockon posted...
They never seem this fast in the show tho. Like I doubt the author intends for them to be massively faster than light.

They can literally blow up a planet by doing nothing at this point. It would be realistic for them to throw a punch and break reality (Goku vs Beerus and Gogeta vs Broly). Except Toriyama himself stated that if every Ki blast blew up the planet they were standing on, there wouldn't be much of a story to tell lol

Also its been implied multiple times that they fight at super speed, but we see it in super slow-mo. Frieza vs Goku fight happened in a short amount of time but for us it was whole episodes. The Cell vs Goku fight, we could watch normally but it was shown on TV in the audience perspectives as blurs (not even that).

Then the Tournament of Power Arc took place in a short amount of time, but it felt much longer because of how fast they were all fighting.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/11/23 12:33:18 PM
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AceMos posted...
reminder death battle says the jojo cast are trillions of times faster than light

even thoe its a major plot point in stone ocean they are NOT even close to that level of speed

It's this stupid Silver Chariot shit and that official statement that Star Platinum is faster than light. It's very clearly not what's happening there.

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Unsuprised_Pika
10/11/23 12:34:57 PM
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Freiza was a planet buster like 4 forms ago lmao. He obviously takes this.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
10/11/23 12:36:38 PM
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I always love just seeing Death Battle take feats at their face value and calculate what it would mean, because it makes me smile. It's absurd and wonderful, but also DC and Marvel do shit like that all the time. Didn't one of the comics have Superman literally just tow the solar system around on his back? XD

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superbot400
10/11/23 12:40:34 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/9/AAZsuhAAE68j.jpg

Ain't no way way frieza is this fast wtf!!!.

They did that before with Mjolnir, Drs Fate Helmet, Green Lantern ring. Its a Death Battle thing.

Jojo stats they give to Dio and Jotaro make no sense. They did not punch stronger then a nuke lol.

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Ratchetrockon
10/11/23 12:43:34 PM
#33:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
They can literally blow up a planet by doing nothing at this point. It would be realistic for them to throw a punch and break reality (Goku vs Beerus and Gogeta vs Broly). Except Toriyama himself stated that if every Ki blast blew up the planet they were standing on, there wouldn't be much of a story to tell lol

Also its been implied multiple times that they fight at super speed, but we see it in super slow-mo. Frieza vs Goku fight happened in a short amount of time but for us it was whole episodes. The Cell vs Goku fight, we could watch normally but it was shown on TV in the audience perspectives as blurs (not even that).

Then the Tournament of Power Arc took place in a short amount of time, but it felt much longer because of how fast they were all fighting.


yeah i know they fight at super speed but i doubt they break light consistently. they can just be going a fraction of light and the world would still look like its frozen to them. like the metroman feat from megamind (when he is casually going about his day while everyone appears frozen) is "only" calced at 1/670th the speed of light.

the main thing that has me doubt their speed is that the cast are planet bound for the most part and fight in small areas. I will believe them to be massively faster than light if they ever fight in space and zip across multiple galaxies during their battles. that actually happens in some fiction.

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AceMos
10/11/23 12:46:47 PM
#34:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
It's this stupid Silver Chariot shit and that official statement that Star Platinum is faster than light. It's very clearly not what's happening there.
oh no they claimed johanathn joestar aka the first one was millions of times faster than light even

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Tyranthraxus
10/11/23 12:47:34 PM
#35:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
We need another anime to continue it

Saint Seiya could easily fill that gap. Power levels are similar though I imagine there would be a ton of fighting about whether they should use Kurumada-only Manga or include feats from all Mangas.

Seeing as they used SSJ4 in Goku vs Superman 1 though, I'm leaning towards including the non Kurumada stuff.

The upper limit there besides Gods would be like Virgo Shaka who countered an attack that destroys a universe with an attack that creates a universe. Would be kinda interesting to see who they pair off.

I'd wager Kamui Seiya vs Ultra Instinct Goku would be the first one if they did.

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AceMos
10/11/23 12:51:23 PM
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sailor moon would be good for more death battles the sailor moon cast is insanely OP and loaded with hax

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10/11/23 12:58:09 PM
#38:


What funny is it could had ended at 4th form Frieza because of the raw power and speed but DB wanted to draw out the battle with Golden and the impossible to currently measure, Black lol.

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AceMos
10/11/23 12:58:46 PM
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they are WAY above any of those

the top tiers of sailor moon would curb stomp anything in dragon ball


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ellis123
10/11/23 1:04:14 PM
#40:


Ratchetrockon posted...
They never seem this fast in the show tho. Like I doubt the author intends for them to be massively faster than light.

Dyspo is the 1st confirmed lightspeed character and frieza n co had somewhat of a difficult time with him. They didn't even beat dyspo with pure speed but with better teamwork and predictions.

But whatever. At least deathbattle consistently scales up every character's speed by like a million+ times so its not a big deal
That's basically my point: he doesn't ever portray them going faster than light as a function of the narrative, it's only because the genre as a whole flagrantly just doesn't give a crap in the slightest about the ramifications about the actions of the characters in question. Hence why they can move quadrillions of times faster than the speed of light: the author just doesn't give a crap. This can be best exemplified by Trigunl in its two iterations. In the original when Vash first shows off his ability to move faster than/react to a bullet the characters freak out and rationalize it as "Oh, he's just reacting to the direction of the gun + their finger" (which would be pretty categorically shown as false as the show goes on). In the reboot he does the same thing but the characters no longer care beyond doing the line as it is practically unheard of for a modern anime character to not be able to react to a bullet regardless of who they are (the exception, of course, being if they are a jobber).

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NoxObscuras
10/11/23 1:06:05 PM
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DarkFists posted...
The next one (Gojo from Jujitsu Kaisen vs Makima from Chainsaw Man) is another obvious victor too and a questionable match up in general...though not as much as this
I think that one would actually be interesting.

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Tyranthraxus
10/11/23 1:10:04 PM
#42:


ellis123 posted...
That's basically my point: he doesn't ever portray them going faster than light as a function of the narrative, it's only because the genre as a whole flagrantly just doesn't give a crap in the slightest about the ramifications about the actions of the characters in question. Hence why they can move quadrillions of times faster than the speed of light: the author just doesn't give a crap. This can be best exemplified by Trigunl in its two iterations. In the original when Vash first shows off his ability to move faster than/react to a bullet the characters freak out and rationalize it as "Oh, he's just reacting to the direction of the gun + their finger" (which would be pretty categorically shown as false as the show goes on). In the reboot he does the same thing but the characters no longer care beyond doing the line as it is practically unheard of for a modern anime character to not be able to react to a bullet regardless of who they are (the exception, of course, being if they are a jobber).

Look forward to the Lycoris Recoil match ups where characters are suddenly moving at 20x speed of sound lmfao

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A_Good_Boy
10/11/23 1:15:17 PM
#43:


Ratchetrockon posted...
the main thing that has me doubt their speed is that the cast are planet bound for the most part and fight in small areas. I will believe them to be massively faster than light if they ever fight in space and zip across multiple galaxies during their battles. that actually happens in some fiction.
DBS spoilers

Goku actually does this against Gas in the DBS manga. They both start fighting each other using IT and chase one another across the universe in a contest of which fighter has the best mastery of instantaneous movement.

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EyeWontBeFooled
10/11/23 1:15:26 PM
#44:


Ratchetrockon posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/9/AAZsuhAAE68j.jpg

Ain't no way way frieza is this fast wtf!!!.
They were talking about the speed of Goku and Frieza's shockwaves from their punches in a specific fight, IIRC.

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ellis123
10/11/23 1:16:24 PM
#45:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Look forward to the Lycoris Recoil match ups where characters are suddenly moving at 20x speed of sound lmfao
The speed of sound is 343 m/s. In modern guns the speed of the bullet easily is higher than 1000 m/s.

So yeah, in a show where bullets themselves are being dodged what you are saying is just full stop exactly what someone should expect. It's up to you as to whether or not you think it is crappy writing that is why they move so fast or because you are actually watching superheroes.

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AceMos
10/11/23 1:41:05 PM
#46:


A_Good_Boy posted...
DBS spoilers

Goku actually does this against Gas in the DBS manga. They both start fighting each other using IT and chase one another across the universe in a contest of which fighter has the best mastery of instantaneous movement.
yea you just said it goku was using IT as in he needs to teleport to reach other planets

and gas could fly in space could not just fly across the galaxy in seconds

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ButteryMales
10/11/23 1:56:24 PM
#47:


AceMos posted...

they are WAY above any of those

the top tiers of sailor moon would curb stomp anything in dragon ball


They did Galaxia vs. Beerus already.
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Ratchetrockon
10/11/23 2:00:34 PM
#48:


A_Good_Boy posted...
DBS spoilers

Goku actually does this against Gas in the DBS manga. They both start fighting each other using IT and chase one another across the universe in a contest of which fighter has the best mastery of instantaneous movement.


Ok I believe they are mftl now if this is true

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A_Good_Boy
10/11/23 2:18:28 PM
#49:


Also, it's easy to take for granted just how fast the characters are moving in the series because we watch it from the perspective of the fighters themselves.

https://youtu.be/Dg-dn9QOFtI?si=DsbJb_22fcqB6oGv

5 minutes into the video of Goku vs Cell we get glimpses of how normies perceive the characters while they're fighting.

And this isn't exactly something that barely started happening all the way back into the Cell saga. They've been moving that quick pretty much since the beginning of the series.

https://youtu.be/qdF_wiWlSHc?si=IXHU4L9djauLMOQN

Krillin and Jackie Chun had a whole ass skit that occurred in the blink of an eye and nobody in the crowd was capable of keeping up with it.

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AceMos
10/11/23 2:20:14 PM
#50:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Also, it's easy to take for granted just how fast the characters are moving in the series because we watch it from the perspective of the fighters themselves.

https://youtu.be/Dg-dn9QOFtI?si=DsbJb_22fcqB6oGv

5 minutes into the video of Goku vs Cell we get glimpses of how normies perceive the characters while they're fighting.

And this isn't exactly something that barely started happening all the way back into the Cell saga. They've been moving that quick pretty much since the beginning of the series.

https://youtu.be/qdF_wiWlSHc?si=IXHU4L9djauLMOQN

Krillin and Jackie Chun had a whole ass skit that occurred in the blink of an eye and nobody in the crowd was capable of keeping up with it.

and yet hercule can see goku fighting kid buu just fine

there is no proof the Z cast are moving 100000X faster than light

in fact the granloah arc gives proof that they are not that much faster than light

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