Board 8 > Rate the Final Fantasy Characters Results and Discussion

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LiquidOshawott 10/14/23 9:25:26 AM #101:	Leonhart4 posted... Laguna didn't abandon his son. He literally didn't realize he had a son until the events of the game. What an odd criticism considering he journeyed across the world to save a girl who wasn't even his biological daughter. If you're talking about Ellone and Raine, he couldn't have known Raine was going to die shortly after he sent Ellone back to Winhill, which he thought would be the best thing for her, and he wasn't allowed to leave Esthar. By the time he learned what happened, there was nothing he could do. If you want to (apparently repeatedly) criticize Laguna just for being lame, that's fine, but your other criticism isn't true. Also I've always found it weird that people pound the "Wakka racist" card and don't seem to care that he clearly grows out of it. I guess it's the unforgivable sin. people just dont like characters with nuance in their video games, they just want to move around and keep hitting the x button --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account <cite>LiquidOshawott posted [p:976650562] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite><quote>Laguna didn't abandon his son. He literally didn't realize he had a son until the events of the game. What an odd criticism considering he journeyed across the world to save a girl who wasn't even his biological daughter. If you're talking about Ellone and Raine, he couldn't have known Raine was going to die shortly after he sent Ellone back to Winhill, which he thought would be the best thing for her, and he wasn't allowed to leave Esthar. By the time he learned what happened, there was nothing he could do.If you want to (apparently repeatedly) criticize Laguna just for being lame, that's fine, but your other criticism isn't true.Also I've always found it weird that people pound the "Wakka racist" card and don't seem to care that he clearly grows out of it. I guess it's the unforgivable sin.</quote>people just dont like characters with nuance in their video games, they just want to move around and keep hitting the x button </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 10/14/23 12:48:14 PM #102:	I always have disliked the idea of giving 1's to characters solely on the basis of not liking them as people. Like the criteria for evaluation shouldn't be based on some moral code but on a combination of writing, design, gameplay, and then maybe a smidgen of personal taste/judgment about values. You can think a character is a complete shitheel but also recognize they're well-crafted and complex. giving Wakka a 1 for "racism" is totally ignoring the development he undergoes throughout the game. Same with a character like Shadow whose past misdeeds add to the tragedy of his character. I'm not saying anyone is wrong for voting this way but I wouldn't do it. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976653114] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>I always have disliked the idea of giving 1's to characters solely on the basis of not liking them as people. Like the criteria for evaluation shouldn't be based on some moral code but on a combination of writing, design, gameplay, and then maybe a smidgen of personal taste/judgment about values. You can think a character is a complete shitheel but also recognize they're well-crafted and complex. giving Wakka a 1 for "racism" is totally ignoring the development he undergoes throughout the game. Same with a character like Shadow whose past misdeeds add to the tragedy of his character.I'm not saying anyone is wrong for voting this way but I wouldn't do it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/14/23 1:21:58 PM #103:	colliding posted... I'm not saying anyone is wrong for voting this way As a 10/10 Algus voter I am --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:976653659] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite><quote>I'm not saying anyone is wrong for voting this way</quote>As a 10/10 Algus voter I am </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/14/23 1:25:08 PM #104:	I gladly make an exception to give Algus a 1 because I hate him that much But you weirdo Algus fans should probably take that as a compliment I guess --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976653693] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>I gladly make an exception to give Algus a 1 because I hate him that muchBut you weirdo Algus fans should probably take that as a compliment I guess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/14/23 1:27:44 PM #105:	Algus is an interesting character, but he's only in the game for 30 seconds. I kind of like that he doesn't play a bigger role, but it's also hard to like him more when he was only around very briefly. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:976653720] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Algus is an interesting character, but he's only in the game for 30 seconds. I kind of like that he doesn't play a bigger role, but it's also hard to like him more when he was only around very briefly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 10/14/23 3:44:31 PM #106:	The only thing Laguna did wrong ~~as a parent was send Ellone back to Winhill before he could leave Esthar, and even then it's not the worst decision he could've made since it was probably a good idea to get Ellone away from Odine.~~ --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:976655799] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>The only thing Laguna did wrong as a parent was send Ellone back to Winhill before he could leave Esthar, and even then it's not the worst decision he could've made since it was probably a good idea to get Ellone away from Odine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/14/23 3:49:48 PM #107:	The only thing Laguna did wrong ~~as a parent was not tell Squall he was his father immediately. It bugs me so much that it's never actually done in the game. They just leave it super ambiguous.~~ --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:976655882] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>The only thing Laguna did wrong as a parent was not tell Squall he was his father immediately. It bugs me so much that it's never actually done in the game. They just leave it super ambiguous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/14/23 4:02:03 PM #108:	Mewtwo59 posted... The only thing Laguna did wrong ~~as a parent was send Ellone back to Winhill before he could leave Esthar, and even then it's not the worst decision he could've made since it was probably a good idea to get Ellone away from Odine.~~ This is exactly why Laguna had to send her away. Too many people (not just Odine) knew about her power, and the danger that someone would try to exploit it would always be high. Ashethan posted... The only thing Laguna did wrong ~~as a parent was not tell Squall he was his father immediately. It bugs me so much that it's never actually done in the game. They just leave it super ambiguous.~~ Nah, I get his thinking there. They're about to embark on the most dangerous mission of their lives, and you don't know how Squall will respond to that news. Now there definitely should have been a scene in the ending where this explicitly happened, but alas. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976656047] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Mewtwo59 posted... </cite><quote>The only thing Laguna did wrong as a parent was send Ellone back to Winhill before he could leave Esthar, and even then it's not the worst decision he could've made since it was probably a good idea to get Ellone away from Odine.</quote>This is exactly why Laguna had to send her away. Too many people (not just Odine) knew about her power, and the danger that someone would try to exploit it would always be high.Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>The only thing Laguna did wrong as a parent was not tell Squall he was his father immediately. It bugs me so much that it's never actually done in the game. They just leave it super ambiguous.</quote>Nah, I get his thinking there. They're about to embark on the most dangerous mission of their lives, and you don't know how Squall will respond to that news.Now there definitely should have been a scene in the ending where this explicitly happened, but alas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 10/14/23 4:14:11 PM #109:	To be fair, Laguna met Squall on the Lunar Base and Laguna's aides had to literally drag Laguna away because the base was about to be destroyed and Laguna wanted to to talk to Squall more than he wanted to be evacuated. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:976656224] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, Laguna met Squall on the Lunar Base and Laguna's aides had to literally drag Laguna away because the base was about to be destroyed and Laguna wanted to to talk to Squall more than he wanted to be evacuated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
plasmabeam 10/14/23 5:36:00 PM #110:	Leonhart4 posted... Nah, I get his thinking there. They're about to embark on the most dangerous mission of their lives, and you don't know how Squall will respond to that news. Exactly. Good work, Leon. Now there definitely should have been a scene in the ending where this explicitly happened, but alas. I love FF8's ending cutscene to death. Without any dialogue, it expresses so much character, suspense, and emotion. I'm fine with it the way it is. The reason it works so well is because of all the buildup to the final moment between Squall/Rinoa, and I think shoehorning a Squall/Laguna moment in there would've taken away from the ending's true focus. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:976657449] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite><quote>Nah, I get his thinking there. They're about to embark on the most dangerous mission of their lives, and you don't know how Squall will respond to that news.</quote>Exactly. Good work, Leon.<quote>Now there definitely should have been a scene in the ending where this explicitly happened, but alas.</quote>I love FF8's ending cutscene to death. Without any dialogue, it expresses so much character, suspense, and emotion. I'm fine with it the way it is. The reason it works so well is because of all the buildup to the final moment between Squall/Rinoa, and I think shoehorning a Squall/Laguna moment in there would've taken away from the ending's true focus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/14/23 5:39:50 PM #111:	I mean, I love VIII's ending, too, but I do think that conversation needed to happen. ~~Heck, you could've added a Time Kompression stop after he visits past Edea and worked it in that way. I think that would have been fine.~~ --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976657514] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>I mean, I love VIII's ending, too, but I do think that conversation needed to happen. Heck, you could've added a Time Kompression stop after he visits past Edea and worked it in that way. I think that would have been fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 10/14/23 5:55:20 PM #112:	colliding posted... I always have disliked the idea of giving 1's to characters solely on the basis of not liking them as people. Like the criteria for evaluation shouldn't be based on some moral code but on a combination of writing, design, gameplay, and then maybe a smidgen of personal taste/judgment about values. Mostly agree with this, although I think it's fine to dislike a character based on personal preferences. With that said, you can easily tell when someone is voting solely on personal preferences without taking anything else into consideration. Like, are you actually giving Wakka a 1, or are you giving the idea of Wakka a 1 because he reminds you of some people in real life? --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:976657767] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite><quote>I always have disliked the idea of giving 1's to characters solely on the basis of not liking them as people. Like the criteria for evaluation shouldn't be based on some moral code but on a combination of writing, design, gameplay, and then maybe a smidgen of personal taste/judgment about values.</quote>Mostly agree with this, although I think it's fine to dislike a character based on personal preferences. With that said, you can easily tell when someone is voting solely on personal preferences without taking anything else into consideration. Like, are you actually giving Wakka a 1, or are you giving the idea of Wakka a 1 because he reminds you of some people in real life? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/14/23 6:03:39 PM #113:	Top 10: Vivi - 8.86 Aerith - 8.45 Cloud - 8.10 Kefka - 8.05 Rydia - 8.03 Squall - 7.94 Yuna - 7.91 Barret - 7.73 Celes - 7.68 Edgar - 7.68 Yesterday's Results: Barret - 7.73 Laguna - 7.05 Jecht - 6.16 Barret knocks Rinoa out of the Top 10, and becomes the third FFVII character in the Top 10. I have a feeling we could have four in there eventually. Laguna finishes just below Sephiroth. Just outside the Top 20. Jecht finishes just below Wakka. Which was quite surprising. He wasn't a good dad, but I definitely feel like he was a good character with a good arc. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:976657914] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Top 10:Vivi - 8.86Aerith - 8.45Cloud - 8.10Kefka - 8.05Rydia - 8.03Squall - 7.94Yuna - 7.91Barret - 7.73Celes - 7.68Edgar - 7.68Yesterday's Results: Barret - 7.73Laguna - 7.05Jecht - 6.16Barret knocks Rinoa out of the Top 10, and becomes the third FFVII character in the Top 10. I have a feeling we could have four in there eventually.Laguna finishes just below Sephiroth. Just outside the Top 20.Jecht finishes just below Wakka. Which was quite surprising. He wasn't a good dad, but I definitely feel like he was a good character with a good arc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 10/14/23 6:27:36 PM #114:	Jecht and Wakka are both good characters with good arcs because they're very flawed individuals! --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:976658347] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Jecht and Wakka are both good characters with good arcs because they're very flawed individuals! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skulltrumpets 10/14/23 6:29:18 PM #115:	I struggled with my ranking for Jecht because I do believe he's a good character, but also can't stand him lol maybe I'll bump him up on those merits after getting in the groove of this. Happy my man Barret is in the top ten! <cite>skulltrumpets posted [p:976658388] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>I struggled with my ranking for Jecht because I do believe he's a good character, but also can't stand him lol maybe I'll bump him up on those merits after getting in the groove of this. Happy my man Barret is in the top ten! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 10/15/23 1:35:28 AM #116:	No characters in FFX have good arcs. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:976664246] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>No characters in FFX have good arcs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 10/15/23 10:13:29 AM #117:	MacArrowny posted... No characters in FFX have good arcs. i'll take the bait. please elaborate further. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976667603] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>No characters in FFX have good arcs.</quote>i'll take the bait. please elaborate further. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 10/15/23 1:21:04 PM #118:	Haha, I'm just not a fan of FFX's cast, that's all. Maybe their development would actually work for me if I tried playing through with Japanese voices or something. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:976670359] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Haha, I'm just not a fan of FFX's cast, that's all. Maybe their development would actually work for me if I tried playing through with Japanese voices or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7 10/15/23 2:07:47 PM #119:	Wakka character development: -racist to non-racist -scrub blitzballer to world champion -shacking up with what is quite possibly the #1 big tiddy goth gf in all of fiction A+ development <cite>MartinFF7 posted [p:976671156] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Wakka character development:-racist to non-racist-scrub blitzballer to world champion-shacking up with what is quite possibly the #1 big tiddy goth gf in all of fictionA+ development</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/15/23 2:31:14 PM #120:	Martin gets it --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976671562] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Martin gets it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 10/15/23 2:36:20 PM #121:	Wakka was still a scrub bliztballer even after being a world champion. You don't need to be good when Tidus can carry you all the way to the win. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:976671678] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Wakka was still a scrub bliztballer even after being a world champion. You don't need to be good when Tidus can carry you all the way to the win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/15/23 2:38:29 PM #122:	looks at Keepa's Level 99 stats Rising tide~~(us)~~ lifts all boats --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976671716] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>looks at Keepa's Level 99 statsRising tide(us) lifts all boats </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/15/23 6:02:31 PM #123:	Top 10: Vivi - 8.86 Aerith - 8.45 Cloud - 8.10 Kefka - 8.05 Rydia - 8.03 Rikku - 8.03 Squall - 7.94 Yuna - 7.91 Barret - 7.73 Celes - 7.68 Yesterday's Results: Zidane - 7.27 Rikku - 8.03 Garland - 5.10 Zidane finishes a bit below Locke, but still in the Top 20. Rikku gets a Top 10 finish, and the highest FFX character (so far) Garland barely misses being the top rated NES era character, just below Cloud of Darkness. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:976675240] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Top 10:Vivi - 8.86Aerith - 8.45Cloud - 8.10Kefka - 8.05Rydia - 8.03Rikku - 8.03Squall - 7.94Yuna - 7.91Barret - 7.73Celes - 7.68Yesterday's Results: Zidane - 7.27Rikku - 8.03Garland - 5.10Zidane finishes a bit below Locke, but still in the Top 20.Rikku gets a Top 10 finish, and the highest FFX character (so far)Garland barely misses being the top rated NES era character, just below Cloud of Darkness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnk 10/15/23 6:04:07 PM #124:	Zidane is lower than I expected. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnk posted [p:976675265] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Zidane is lower than I expected. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 10/15/23 7:05:58 PM #125:	Zidane's got some haters. In this sort of voting format, a 1 matters a lot more than a 10. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:976676306] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Zidane's got some haters. In this sort of voting format, a 1 matters a lot more than a 10. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 10/15/23 7:37:34 PM #126:	See, I would love to have given Zidane a 1 because of his stupid-ass design, but I can see with eyes unclouded by hate --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976677012] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>See, I would love to have given Zidane a 1 because of his stupid-ass design, but I can see with eyes unclouded by hate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/15/23 9:00:57 PM #127:	I feel like FF9 just doesn't have a lot of memorable moments. Like there's... the opening. The ending. You're not alone. The hair cut. ~~Beatrix in Burmecia.~~ I mean I really like the game a lot. But the characters don't stand out enough imo. Except Vivi and maybe Dagger and Steiner. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:976678423] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>I feel like FF9 just doesn't have a lot of memorable moments.Like there's... the opening. The ending. You're not alone. The hair cut. Beatrix in Burmecia.I mean I really like the game a lot. But the characters don't stand out enough imo. Except Vivi and maybe Dagger and Steiner. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
plasmabeam 10/15/23 9:09:49 PM #128:	MacArrowny posted... No characters in FFX have good arcs. Tidus has an excellent arc. Whiny, pampered athlete develops into a warrior/protector. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:976678553] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>No characters in FFX have good arcs.</quote>Tidus has an excellent arc. Whiny, pampered athlete develops into a warrior/protector. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
plasmabeam 10/15/23 9:11:21 PM #129:	Ashethan posted... I feel like FF9 just doesn't have a lot of memorable moments. Like there's... the opening. The ending. You're not alone. The hair cut. ~~Beatrix in Burmecia.~~ I mean I really like the game a lot. But the characters don't stand out enough imo. Except Vivi and maybe Dagger and Steiner. ~~Alexander destroying the city also comes to mind (end of disc 2? 3?)~~ --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:976678577] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>I feel like FF9 just doesn't have a lot of memorable moments.Like there's... the opening. The ending. You're not alone. The hair cut. Beatrix in Burmecia.I mean I really like the game a lot. But the characters don't stand out enough imo. Except Vivi and maybe Dagger and Steiner.</quote>Alexander destroying the city also comes to mind (end of disc 2? 3?) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/15/23 9:11:59 PM #130:	plasmabeam posted... Tidus has an excellent arc. Whiny, pampered athlete develops into a warrior/protector. Not to mention finding a way to ~~accept his father leaving him, and coming to realize Jecht loved him after all and that he didn't want to leave.~~ --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:976678585] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>plasmabeam posted... </cite><quote>Tidus has an excellent arc. Whiny, pampered athlete develops into a warrior/protector.</quote>Not to mention finding a way to accept his father leaving him, and coming to realize Jecht loved him after all and that he didn't want to leave. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 10/15/23 9:14:12 PM #131:	Ashethan posted... I feel like FF9 just doesn't have a lot of memorable moments. Like there's... the opening. The ending. You're not alone. The hair cut. ~~Beatrix in Burmecia.~~ I mean I really like the game a lot. But the characters don't stand out enough imo. Except Vivi and maybe Dagger and Steiner. FF9 has plenty of memorable moments, they're just usually more low-key than the bombast of FF7 and FF8. It's a vibes kind of game. Even then there's stuff like ~~Cleyra and Alexander.~~ As for characters - I'd both agree and disagree. The first main four are very good, and Freya is good early on, but the latter party members are iffy. I think half the main cast being very good is still a better success rate than most RPGs though. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:976678615] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>I feel like FF9 just doesn't have a lot of memorable moments.Like there's... the opening. The ending. You're not alone. The hair cut. Beatrix in Burmecia.I mean I really like the game a lot. But the characters don't stand out enough imo. Except Vivi and maybe Dagger and Steiner.</quote>FF9 has plenty of memorable moments, they're just usually more low-key than the bombast of FF7 and FF8. It's a vibes kind of game. Even then there's stuff like Cleyra and Alexander.As for characters - I'd both agree and disagree. The first main four are very good, and Freya is good early on, but the latter party members are iffy. I think half the main cast being very good is still a better success rate than most RPGs though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 10/15/23 9:41:49 PM #132:	Yeah there's a lot of hype stuff all from the beginning to the start of disc 3 (with a bit of a slowdown during disc 2 as well). --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:976679047] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Yeah there's a lot of hype stuff all from the beginning to the start of disc 3 (with a bit of a slowdown during disc 2 as well). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/15/23 9:45:07 PM #133:	I could come up with a top ten moments list easy from any of the Golden Age FF games, and they'd all slap --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976679099] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>I could come up with a top ten moments list easy from any of the Golden Age FF games, and they'd all slap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 10/15/23 10:29:45 PM #134:	"You're not alone" is the most overrated FF scene/song I swear. But FFIX has a ton of better moments than that. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976679794] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>"You're not alone" is the most overrated FF scene/song I swear. But FFIX has a ton of better moments than that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/15/23 10:32:09 PM #135:	Nah it's still one of the series' best songs Great scene, too. It was better to have Zidane go faux emo like Cloud and Squall than to have him go real emo like he did at the beginning of Disc 3 where he got so emo the game literally forced you to take control of Vivi instead. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976679838] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Nah it's still one of the series' best songsGreat scene, too. It was better to have Zidane go faux emo like Cloud and Squall than to have him go real emo like he did at the beginning of Disc 3 where he got so emo the game literally forced you to take control of Vivi instead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 10/15/23 10:35:15 PM #136:	Yeah it's overrated. It serves its purpose but it's like all context and narrative than being an interesting piece on its own. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:976679875] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it's overrated. It serves its purpose but it's like all context and narrative than being an interesting piece on its own. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/15/23 10:36:59 PM #137:	pjbasis posted... Yeah it's overrated. It serves its purpose but it's like all context and narrative than being an interesting piece on its own. Not seeing the problem Give me good atmosphere and production values, and the game clearly elevated them for that scene --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976679911] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>pjbasis posted... </cite><quote>Yeah it's overrated. It serves its purpose but it's like all context and narrative than being an interesting piece on its own.</quote>Not seeing the problem Give me good atmosphere and production values, and the game clearly elevated them for that scene </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 10/15/23 10:42:18 PM #138:	I just find it predictable and kind of cliche. I never once felt like Zidane was seriously going through it. It feels like a scene I've seen before. If you compare it to Cloud self-actualizing and Laguna and Rinoa floating in space as "Eyes on Me" plays it's far behind those two, which seem to serve similar purposes. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976680001] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>I just find it predictable and kind of cliche. I never once felt like Zidane was seriously going through it. It feels like a scene I've seen before. If you compare it to Cloud self-actualizing and Laguna and Rinoa floating in space as "Eyes on Me" plays it's far behind those two, which seem to serve similar purposes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/15/23 10:44:41 PM #139:	Laguna moving in on Rinoa, that would be quite the soap opera I'm here for it --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976680033] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Laguna moving in on Rinoa, that would be quite the soap operaI'm here for it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 10/15/23 10:48:03 PM #140:	oops but now that I think about it... --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976680080] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>oopsbut now that I think about it... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi1 10/15/23 10:53:13 PM #141:	Rikku is basically just a better Yuffie so it makes sense. --- PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 Switch FC: SW-6848-3841-9099 <cite>Waluigi1 posted [p:976680156] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Rikku is basically just a better Yuffie so it makes sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 10/15/23 11:00:18 PM #142:	Leonhart4 posted... Laguna moving in on Rinoa, that would be quite the soap opera I'm here for it Does this mean Roba is justified in his Laguna hate because Laguna's a pedophile? --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:976680268] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite><quote>Laguna moving in on Rinoa, that would be quite the soap operaI'm here for it</quote>Does this mean Roba is justified in his Laguna hate because Laguna's a pedophile? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/15/23 11:00:32 PM #143:	colliding posted... I never once felt like Zidane was seriously going through it. I feel like it's hurt a little bit by Zidane being more defiant just moments earlier. Like yeah, he learns his purpose was to create war on Gaia. It makes sense that he'd have a bit of an existential crisis. But just moments ago he was ready to kill Garland and wasn't really struggling at all. Music though is still top notch tbh. Definitely a Top 5 song in the game, and like most of the Uematsu Final Fantasy soundtracks, that's a huge compliment. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:976680271] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite><quote>I never once felt like Zidane was seriously going through it.</quote>I feel like it's hurt a little bit by Zidane being more defiant just moments earlier. Like yeah, he learns his purpose was to create war on Gaia. It makes sense that he'd have a bit of an existential crisis. But just moments ago he was ready to kill Garland and wasn't really struggling at all. Music though is still top notch tbh. Definitely a Top 5 song in the game, and like most of the Uematsu Final Fantasy soundtracks, that's a huge compliment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/15/23 11:04:01 PM #144:	Mewtwo59 posted... Does this mean Roba is justified in his Laguna hate because Laguna's a pedophile? It would make him pretty creepy going after his first love's daughter but technically not a pedophile...! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976680315] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Mewtwo59 posted... </cite><quote>Does this mean Roba is justified in his Laguna hate because Laguna's a pedophile?</quote>It would make him pretty creepy going after his first love's daughter but technically not a pedophile...! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 10/16/23 6:03:55 PM #145:	Top 10: Vivi - 8.86 Aerith - 8.45 Cloud - 8.10 Kefka - 8.05 Rydia - 8.03 Rikku - 8.03 Squall - 7.94 Yuna - 7.91 Barret - 7.73 Celes - 7.68 Yesterday's Results: Terra - 6.59 Ultimecia - 5.98 Tellah - 5.22 Terra ranks... surprisingly low. Below Noctis, but above Prompto. Below Cecil as well. Ultimecia ranks... fairly well for a villain. Just below Irvine. Tellah ranks just above the spoony bard with whom he has a brief quarrel. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:976693483] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Top 10:Vivi - 8.86Aerith - 8.45Cloud - 8.10Kefka - 8.05Rydia - 8.03Rikku - 8.03Squall - 7.94Yuna - 7.91Barret - 7.73Celes - 7.68Yesterday's Results: Terra - 6.59Ultimecia - 5.98Tellah - 5.22Terra ranks... surprisingly low. Below Noctis, but above Prompto. Below Cecil as well.Ultimecia ranks... fairly well for a villain. Just below Irvine. Tellah ranks just above the spoony bard with whom he has a brief quarrel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/16/23 6:06:40 PM #146:	colliding posted... I never once felt like Zidane was seriously going through it Yeah that's what I mean by You're Not Alone feeling "forced" Some people don't care but I'd probably at least not totally hate Zidane if he didn't have that happen at all. It makes the whole character feel shallow and fake to me. Without that he's just kinda obnoxious. 3.5/10. Obnoxious drama queen phony is 1/10 material though. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:976693533] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>colliding posted... </cite><quote>I never once felt like Zidane was seriously going through it</quote>Yeah that's what I mean by You're Not Alone feeling "forced"Some people don't care but I'd probably at least not totally hate Zidane if he didn't have that happen at all. It makes the whole character feel shallow and fake to me.Without that he's just kinda obnoxious. 3.5/10. Obnoxious drama queen phony is 1/10 material though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/16/23 6:07:51 PM #147:	Also I still can't get over how Roba 1/10s Edge for being a creep to Rydia when Zidane is way worse towards Garnet and gets an 8 or whatever --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:976693549] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Also I still can't get over how Roba 1/10s Edge for being a creep to Rydia when Zidane is way worse towards Garnet and gets an 8 or whatever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 10/16/23 6:27:46 PM #148:	Lopen posted... Also I still can't get over how Roba 1/10s Edge for being a creep to Rydia when Zidane is way worse towards Garnet and gets an 8 or whatever Edge being a creep is the most tangible awful thing from him that I can point to in order to justify my hatred, but the real reason I dislike him is that he's lame. He brought down every single scene that he was in. Same goes for Laguna I guess. I respectfully retract my original complaint (where I lumped him together with Jecht and Shadow) and instead send him to live with Edge in Lamesville. In any case, Zidane is a good character. Not perfect by any means, but good. I forgive a lot of his earlier creepiness because (IX spoilers) ~~that ending cutscene where Dagger pushes through the crowd to embrace him is so cute.~~ --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:976693906] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>Also I still can't get over how Roba 1/10s Edge for being a creep to Rydia when Zidane is way worse towards Garnet and gets an 8 or whatever</quote>Edge being a creep is the most tangible awful thing from him that I can point to in order to justify my hatred, but the real reason I dislike him is that he's lame. He brought down every single scene that he was in. Same goes for Laguna I guess. I respectfully retract my original complaint (where I lumped him together with Jecht and Shadow) and instead send him to live with Edge in Lamesville.In any case, Zidane is a good character. Not perfect by any means, but good. I forgive a lot of his earlier creepiness because (IX spoilers) that ending cutscene where Dagger pushes through the crowd to embrace him is so cute. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 10/16/23 6:29:00 PM #149:	So it's Rydia's fault for not having a cute scene with Edge. You're only a creep until a girl rewards you for it! --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:976693930] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>So it's Rydia's fault for not having a cute scene with Edge.You're only a creep until a girl rewards you for it! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mobilezoid 10/16/23 6:33:33 PM #150:	pjbasis posted... So it's Rydia's fault for not having a cute scene with Edge. You're only a creep until a girl rewards you for it! Whether or not the girl is into it too is the dividing line between flirting and being a creep, yes. Zidane certainly has plenty of creep moments, though. --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D (On mobile) <cite>Mobilezoid posted [p:976693993] in Rate the F... [t:80581770]...</cite> <quote>pjbasis posted... </cite><quote>So it's Rydia's fault for not having a cute scene with Edge.You're only a creep until a girl rewards you for it!</quote>Whether or not the girl is into it too is the dividing line between flirting and being a creep, yes. Zidane certainly has plenty of creep moments, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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