Current Events > Georgia RICO trial updates topic

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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1707516332881633322

Trump won't try to have his case removed to federal court. He didn't have much of a chance at succeeding any way, but he would have had to actually testify under oath in order to have a chance. Mark Meadows testified under oath and failed, which likely gave prosecutors more evidence to use during the trial. Jeffrey Clark didn't even show up for his removal hearing and the judge wasn't happy about that. Clark tried to submit a sworn statement instead and the judge refused to accept it. Then the judge denied Clark's request to move his case to federal court.

The Cheese and Kraken trial is still set for October 23rd and will be live streamed.

• Kenneth Chesebro filed a motion for a speedy trial.
• Fulton County DA Fani Willis has been ready to go since late July and agreed with Chesebro's motion, and suggested an October 23rd trial date.
• The judge agreed to the October 23rd trial date.
• Sidney Powell then filed her own motion for a speedy trial and basically copied and pasted Kenneth Chesebro's speedy trial motion. She didn't even change "he/him" to "she/her."
• The judge then combined Kenneth Cheesebro and Sidney Powell into one trial.
• Kenneth Chesebro filed a motion to sever. No one wants to be sitting at the defendant's table with Sidney Powell's dumb ass, but that motion was denied.

We're less than a month away from the first trial! I still haven't heard anything about trial dates for other RICO defendants.

I find it really funny that Powell's reward for the copy/paste is to have her trial at the exact same time as Chesebro. The universe works in mysterious yet funny ways.

It's going to be interesting to see what the judge will allow the DA to present in the Cheese and Kraken trial, because it's still a RICO Case, and that means there was a conspiracy. To deny the evidence that shows the illegal actions of others not in this specific case will be what Cheesy wants, but it's all part of the same conspiracy. I'm not even close to a lawyer, so I have no idea how this will all shake out.

King_Rial posted...

It's going to be interesting to see what the judge will allow the DA to present in the Cheese and Kraken trial, because it's still a RICO Case, and that means there was a conspiracy. To deny the evidence that shows the illegal actions of others not in this specific case will be what Cheesy wants, but it's all part of the same conspiracy. I'm not even close to a lawyer, so I have no idea how this will all shake out.

From what I've read, they're planning to present the entire case even though Chesebro and Powell are only involved in a part of it. Apparently all evidence in a RICO case is admissible against all defendants even if the defendants weren't involved in other parts of it.

Seems like so many motions will be filed, and this is less than a month away. How the hell is this gonna get done so quickly?

CableZL posted...

From what I've read, they're planning to present the entire case even though Chesebro and Powell are only involved in a part of it. Apparently all evidence in a RICO case is admissible against all defendants even if the defendants weren't involved in other parts of it. I hope Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss testify against Rudy Giuliani, Trevian Kutti, and the others who were involved in harassing them.

I still hate that this is basically Trump forcing his minions to walk through a minefield to clear a path for him.

Reminder that a president (probably) cannot pardon state crimes.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Reminder that a president (probably) cannot pardon state crimes.

Georgia's governor can't pardon anyone in the state, either. Brian Kemp doesn't seem to be a fan of Trump at this point, though.

King_Rial posted...

Seems like so many motion will be filed, and this is less than a month away. How the hell is this gonna get done so quickly?

I think they'll just have to abide by the judge's schedule for deadlines for particular motions. They're the ones who requested speedy trials, so there's not much of an excuse.

CableZL posted...

* Sidney Powell then filed her own motion for a speedy trial and basically copied and pasted Kenneth Chesebro's speedy trial motion. She didn't even change "he/him" to "she/her."

If Powell were a competent lawyer, she wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.

CableZL posted...

Georgia's governor can't pardon anyone in the state, either. Brian Kemp doesn't seem to be a fan of Trump at this point, though.

Gonna be weird as hell when the president's office is the TV room in a Georgia prison.

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1707539903897112848

One of Rudy's lawyers is withdrawing. Maybe he didn't get paid, either.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4228850-georgia-senator-who-demanded-fani-willis-special-session-suspended-from-gop-caucus/

Georgia state Sen. Colton Moore, who demanded a special session of the Legislature for an investigation of Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D), was indefinitely suspended from the chambers GOP caucus Thursday.

Despite the fact 32 of 33 Republican State Senators, the Governor, Lt. Governor, Speaker of the House, and the Chairman of the Georgia Republican Party agree that a Special Session to take action against the Fulton County District Attorney is impossible, Senator Moore has a right to his opinion, according to a statement posted to X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, by the Georgia Senate Republicans.

However, during his advocacy for his ill-conceived proposal, Senator Moore has knowingly misled people across Georgia and our nation, causing unnecessary tension and hostility, while putting his Caucus colleagues and their families at risk of personal harm, the statement continued.

Moore hit back at his suspension, saying he will now refer to the GOP Senate caucus as the RINO caucus, meaning Republican in name only.

The Georgia RINOs responded to my call to fight back against the Trump witch hunts by acting like children and throwing me out of the caucus, Moore said in a post on X. But Im not going anywhere.

The people of Georgia are 100% with me, he continued. This is the fight of our lifetime, and I will continue to double down to defend the rule of law and do what is right. I will continue to EXPOSE Fani Willis and the RINOs covering for her.

Georgia and Arizona seem to be the last bastions of sanity in the Republican Party.

CableZL posted...

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1707539903897112848

One of Rudy's lawyers is withdrawing. Maybe he didn't get paid, either.

Lmfao

CableZL posted...

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1707539903897112848

One of Rudy's lawyers is withdrawing. Maybe he didn't get paid, either.

He isn't winning and frankly he should even be given the chance. Blue swing states must remove him from the ballot an outright refuse to put him on no matter what any court says. All they have to do is drag it out until after the election then its moot.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Reminder that a president (probably) cannot pardon state crimes.

Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1: "The President shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment". So, no. He can't pardon state crimes, nor can he commute state sentences.

Almost every Trump associated trial got so much worse for everyone this week.

Starks posted...

Almost every Trump associated trial got so much worse for everyone this week.

But wait! There's more!

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1707761753809953029

From the looks of things, it sounds like all of these people are fucked

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1707751979391312215?t=R1q6Mlgq-CNwRvXRft5F6g&s=19

Cheesy, you're going to be destroyed here. Your plans of saying "it's legal for me to break these laws because I'm a lawyer" we're never going to fly. And with the insane Kraken by your side at trial, you'll never stand a chance of winning. Just take a plea and flip. We've literally already seen your emails saying that you know you had no legal standing to challenge the election and keep Trump in power. Your speedy trial bluff is blowing up in your face. Be smart, for once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeqKnMFSmkg

Cheese and Kraken hearing

CableZL posted...

Cheese and Kraken

I chuckled at this

CableZL posted...

But wait! There's more!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkGLxQ3iolo

So the judge wants to start voir dire on October 20th

Chesebro's lawyer tried to lash out at the state for not talking to him first about a conflict of interest, but he claims the waivers he has he doesn't want to share with the state. So how was that supposed to go down? "Trust me, bro" to the state when they ask about it?

darkace77450 posted...

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4228850-georgia-senator-who-demanded-fani-willis-special-session-suspended-from-gop-caucus/

Georgia and Arizona seem to be the last bastions of sanity in the Republican Party.

I missed this - what did Moore say that led to threats against his fellow Republicans?

CableZL posted...

But wait! There's more!

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1707761753809953029

So much winning!

What was his "rationale" for being immune from prosecution?

King_Rial posted...

Your speedy trial bluff is blowing up in your face. Be smart, for once.

Narrator: But none of the defendants were smart.

Ruvan22 posted...

I missed this - what did Moore say that led to threats against his fellow Republicans?

Georgia recently enacted a law that would allow the state legislature to remove "rogue" prosecutors. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together foresaw that Republicans wanted to use this to remove Fani Willis from office, even though she's an elected official, because she was investigating Donald Trump. I believe the governor signed the law and said the law wouldn't be used against her.

Fast forward to recent months, Fani Willis has indicted Donald Trump. Moore was pushing for the governor to call the legislature into a special session just to use that law to remove Fani Willis from office. Brian Kemp, fortunately, gave a stern public response saying he wouldn't do that.

This is one thing I'm finding kinda interesting about the state of the GOP today. It seems like the majority of state level Republicans in Georgia cannot stand Donald Trump any more due to what he did to their state and their constituents after the 2020 election. There are still some Trump sycophants in the party, but overall, Georgia is not having it.

It's kind of a big loss for Trump to not be at the same table as Powell, isnt it? Like, for democracy I mean

CableZL posted...

Georgia recently enacted a law that would allow the state legislature to remove "rogue" prosecutors. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together foresaw that Republicans wanted to use this to remove Fani Willis from office, even though she's an elected official, because she was investigating Donald Trump. I believe the governor signed the law and said the law wouldn't be used against her.

Fast forward to recent months, Fani Willis has indicted Donald Trump. Moore was pushing for the governor to call the legislature into a special session just to use that law to remove Fani Willis from office. Brian Kemp, fortunately, gave a stern public response saying he wouldn't do that.

This is one thing I'm finding kinda interesting about the state of the GOP today. It seems like the majority of state level Republicans in Georgia cannot stand Donald Trump any more due to what he did to their state and their constituents after the 2020 election. There are still some Trump sycophants in the party, but overall, Georgia is not having it.

I should have known this since I reside in the state :p

I remember state GOP making lots of similar shifty changes in 2020 that gave the state legislature more power over counties and elected officials... good to see it not being used in this case

Ruvan22 posted...

I missed this - what did Moore say that led to threats against his fellow Republicans?

https://shorturl.at/xEJMV

They don't go into specifics, but he apparently got really nasty in his attacks on fellow Republicans because they wouldn't join his pushing of Trump lies.

Ruvan22 posted...

I missed this - what did Moore say that led to threats against his fellow Republicans?

I'm not sure what the context is here. It could be anything form Moore "threatening" the legitimacy of the state GOP by attacking them or literally Trump's supporters issuing death threats - as they're wont to do - against anyone not willing to stop the "witch hunt".

Cool topic, lets crush MAGA

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I would appreciate all these judges more if they banned defense counsel from referring to Defendant as "President Trump" as he is not actually President.

darkace77450 posted...

I'm not sure what the context is here. It could be anything form Moore "threatening" the legitimacy of the state GOP by attacking them or literally Trump's supporters issuing death threats - as they're wont to do - against anyone not willing to stop the "witch hunt".

From King Rial's AJC link -

The temperature has only risen since then. Moore has called Republicans who have objected to his petition spineless RINOs (Republicans in name only) and even warned of impending violence.

Do you want a civil war? I dont want a civil war. I dont want to have to draw my rifle, Moore said during a recent appearance on Steve Bannons War Room podcast. I want to make this problem go away with my legislative means of doing so.

His broadsides may have also spurred threats against some Republican senators that led the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to seek details from lawmakers about harassing activity and suspicious behavior.

After state Sens. Bo Hatchett and Shelly Echols issued a joint statement criticizing Moores call, they said the senator dispatched robocalls, texts and emails targeting them.

Its a horrible abuse of power. A violation of Colton Moores oath of office, Hatchett said. Hes using the money he steals from conservatives to attack fellow Republicans doing nothing but helping the Democrats across the state and putting his conservative colleagues in danger.

Cheese bro seems ready for a plea deal if all charges are dropped as part of it

The Moore situation almost sounds promising; however, I see it more like the Texas AG situation where they are going to be kind of upset and just let shit go instead of really punishing him as he deserves.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Not in legal filings

When he's in that courtroom, he is nothing more than Mr. Trump.

Starks posted...

Cheese bro seems ready for a plea deal if all charges are dropped as part of it

if they don't already have tons of cooperating witnesses i would imagine they give him a deal. if they refuse him a deal you know trump is extra fucked

TyVulpine posted...

Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1: "The President shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment". So, no. He can't pardon state crimes, nor can he commute state sentences.

Guarantee you the Supreme Court or some lower court chud judge would accept the argument that "against the United States" counts for state crimes, because reasons.

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1707848850604490828

First guilty plea in the Georgia RICO case.

Flip flip flip
Flippity flip flip flip

CableZL posted...

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1707848850604490828

First guilty plea in the Georgia RICO case.

Flip flip flip
Flippity flip flip flip

Oh fuck lol

Trump is going to be shitting his pants and smearing it all over his dumb social media app today.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/1/AAABqgAAE4ir.jpg

The charges Scott Hall was facing:

• 1. Violation of the Georgia RICO Act
• 32. Conspiracy to Commit Election Fraud
• 33. Conspiracy to Commit Election Fraud
• 34. Conspiracy to Commit Computer Theft
• 35. Conspiracy to Commit Computer Trespass
• 36. Conspiracy to Commit Computer Invasion of Privacy
• 37. Conspiracy to Defraud the State

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/5/AAN8dNAAE4iv.jpg

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I love it