Current Events > 4 indictments, 91 charges, yet Trump is beating Biden in national polls

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BignutzisBack
09/24/23 9:23:48 AM
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Is America too far gone to be saved in your opinion?

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Kloe_Rinz
09/24/23 9:25:36 AM
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Hes a martyr for the braindead and Nazis
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TonyKojima
09/24/23 9:28:11 AM
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No he isn't.

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TripleDouble
09/24/23 9:30:06 AM
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Why are our options always do bad. Is it so hard to get an atheist Latina with a big ass?

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Foppe
09/24/23 9:31:56 AM
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Street credz.

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EmilyTheCEman
09/24/23 9:32:13 AM
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Ive never once been asked to participate in any of these polls so I have no idea where they get this data.

I assume its usually bored old people (hmmmmm wonder which way they lean) being polled.

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__aCEr__
09/24/23 9:34:43 AM
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What polls?

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ai123
09/24/23 9:38:27 AM
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Support for Trump has never been conditional on him being a good person, or even not a criminal.

Even Trump realized that very early.

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TonyKojima
09/24/23 9:39:13 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

His rallies have more empty seats than people.

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brestugo
09/24/23 9:43:56 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Still over a year before the election.

The next poll should ask "When (what year) is the next presidential election?" I'd wager at least 30% get it wrong.

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Quorthon109
09/24/23 10:06:05 AM
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If we're talking about that Washington Post/ABC "national poll", it was 1,006 people

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DirkDiggles
09/24/23 10:10:35 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

This. Even DeezNutz is polling better than both.

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GhostFaceLeaks
09/24/23 10:11:28 AM
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Welcome to the real world where hate and corruption win above all.

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EDF-5
09/24/23 10:11:56 AM
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US constitution is clear about treason
yet 'patriots' are in support of a traitor
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Dark_Arbron
09/24/23 10:12:39 AM
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Its still early but I think TCs point is that in a country whose populace werent brain dead Trumps position on any poll should be close to 0. The fact its not demonstrates a problem.

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Squall28
09/24/23 10:12:50 AM
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EmilyTheCEman posted...
Ive never once been asked to participate in any of these polls so I have no idea where they get this data.

I assume its usually bored old people (hmmmmm wonder which way they lean) being polled.

I mean that's who votes. The young talk a mean game, but when it's time to vote, they don't come out.

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Dark_Arbron
09/24/23 10:13:05 AM
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EDF-5 posted...
US constitution is clear about treason
yet 'patriots' are in support of a traitor

They only care about one part of the constitution. Heck some parts of it they want to remove.

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TonyKojima
09/24/23 10:13:08 AM
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Quorthon109 posted...
If we're talking about that Washington Post/ABC "national poll", it was 1,006 people
And the WaPo even says its an outlier. Why even publish it? Oh wait we know why.

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TyVulpine
09/24/23 10:16:43 AM
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Squall28 posted...
I mean that's who votes. The young talk a mean game, but when it's time to vote, they don't come out.
50% of people aged 18-29 voted in 2020. I'd say they came out.

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Sariana21
09/24/23 10:24:23 AM
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Squall28 posted...
I mean that's who votes. The young talk a mean game, but when it's time to vote, they don't come out.
They have been recently. Thats why theres talk of taking away voting rights from college students and other nefarious plans.

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TheNextLink
09/24/23 10:29:01 AM
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Republicans have been pushing this narrative to prop up Trump on to a pedestal in which he doesn't actually exists op top of.

He's cooked, and closer we get to the election day, the more evident that will become.

My concern is how the extremists who were incensed enough to commit violent crimes on Jan 6, 2021, will respond. I find that to be a first, dry run. They know what works and doesn't. And it's not like the politicians in the party aren't working to pull something off in their own right. Plus, the media have been brainwashing their base about how elections are stolen for decades and have only increased the fearmongering in the last three years. Those people are bombs waiting to go off at any moment. They will not accept another election loss.
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brestugo
09/24/23 10:35:58 AM
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EmilyTheCEman posted...
Ive never once been asked to participate in any of these polls so I have no idea where they get this data.


If you're interested in being part of a poll, one way to get started is YouGov. You will have to add your data to a demographic pool. A lot. There are also NDAs.

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/24/23 10:38:03 AM
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You have to realize that conservatives find it absolutely absurd that Trump is being punished for his obvious crimes, but they're not smart enough or self-aware enough to articulate why it is absurd. When prompted, they will try to weasel through a rationalization, but it is dishonest. The truth is that Donald Trump is privileged, he is white, and he stands for those values that they hold dear, and crimes don't matter so much to conservatives as much as the identity of the people who commit them.

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creativerealms
09/24/23 10:38:04 AM
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Who are they even polling? Yeah it is scary and not to be ignored but the groups being polled are important.

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David1988
09/24/23 10:38:19 AM
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Repeat of 2016 incoming with only difference Trump is even more openly evil now and should be more of an underdog because of his indictments and shit

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TyVulpine
09/24/23 10:39:33 AM
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David1988 posted...
Repeat of 2016 incoming with only difference Trump is even more openly evil now and should be more of an underdog because of his indictments and shit
You mean repeat of 2020. People are more anti-Trump than pro-Biden.

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TyVulpine
09/24/23 10:40:38 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Who are they even polling? Yeah it is scary and not to be ignored but the groups being polled are important.
Those poll "questions" are designed to lead people into giving specific answers so the pollsters can say "see, people support (candidate the pollster supports)!"

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GrandConjuraton
09/24/23 10:41:37 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Hes a martyr for the braindead and Nazis


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creativerealms
09/24/23 10:41:50 AM
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David1988 posted...
Repeat of 2016 incoming with only difference Trump is even more openly evil now and should be more of an underdog because of his indictments and shit
Just keep telling yourself that. Overconfidence is what destroyed Hillary so I want Trump and his supporters to think they will easily win.

You realize a.repeat of 2016 wouldn't be Trump winning but the clear winner of polls losing!

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Takuya_Lee
09/24/23 10:45:54 AM
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David1988 posted...
Repeat of 2016 incoming with only difference Trump is even more openly evil now and should be more of an underdog because of his indictments and shit
No it's not. Polls are garbage these days. Sit down

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Ajiri
09/24/23 10:49:03 AM
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America is fucked, also the world is fucked because climate change is getting close to a point where it's irreversible

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Irony
09/24/23 10:50:34 AM
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No he isn't

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Will_VIII
09/24/23 10:56:38 AM
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Op doesn't even have a poll or anything

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TyVulpine
09/24/23 11:05:52 AM
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Will_VIII posted...
Op doesn't even have a poll or anything
Because he knows the poll would easily disprove his "Trump is beating Biden" claim.

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Justin2Krelian
09/24/23 11:07:00 AM
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ABC/Washington poll has him +9, wtf. At least an NBC news poll is tied.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

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Starks
09/24/23 11:21:41 AM
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The state polls are showing the exact opposite.

Is the election was today, Trump looks fucked.

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RchHomieQuanChi
09/24/23 11:36:31 AM
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David1988 posted...
Repeat of 2016 incoming with only difference Trump is even more openly evil now and should be more of an underdog because of his indictments and shit

Nah. Hillary was probably the most unlikable candidate the DNC has put up in recent memory and even then, she still took the popular vote.

While Trump's fanbase has only gotten more rabid, many of them are also dying out and his more "reasonable" supporters have steadily jumped ship in light of everything he's done post-2020. I also can't imagine he's gained any significant amount of support compared to 2020 either. Meanwhile Biden has been doing just enough for Dem voters to be okay with still voting for him.

The fact that he still has a shot at all is definitely scary, but Trump definitely has even more of an uphill battle now compared to 2016 and even 2020 and he already lost to Biden before.

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EyeWontBeFooled
09/24/23 11:40:45 AM
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Sariana21 posted...
They have been recently. Thats why theres talk of taking away voting rights from college students and other nefarious plans.
I want more dtails on that. I know the world is burning, but what is the source on this? Is this in one state? Nationally? What other nefarious plans?

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RchHomieQuanChi
09/24/23 11:43:03 AM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
I want more dtails on that. I know the world is burning, but what is the source on this? Is this in one state? Nationally? What other nefarious plans?

I know for certain here in Texas they're trying to make it hard for college students to vote

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HHH_is_the_game
09/24/23 11:46:33 AM
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The part that's a little annoying is that the people on the left will look at this and say "well america is doomed half the country is evil" and never examine the ways in which their own side is alienating people or has some impact on how America at large feels.

Which is frustrating as I hate Trump and I hate DeSantis even more, and while I'm not a big fan of Biden I'd rather anybody over one of them.

Like...just think about how awful Trump is. If people would rather have him over Biden what does that say about our side? Like Im sure there are evil people out there but we are doing something wrong

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DuneMan
09/24/23 11:47:08 AM
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ai123 posted...
Support for Trump has never been conditional on him being a good person, or even not a criminal.

Even Trump realized that very early.
Yeah, even Trump figured that out about the Republican party. They don't care what someone does, just who is the one doing it.

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tripleh213
09/24/23 11:48:17 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/5/AAOFZHAAEhSx.jpg

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2Pacavelli
09/24/23 11:49:40 AM
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Damn
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WilliamPorygon
09/24/23 11:50:45 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/1/7/AABGtnAAE3oB.jpg

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the_crow13
09/24/23 11:52:52 AM
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Starks posted...
The state polls are showing the exact opposite.

Is the election was today, Trump looks fucked.

this is what matters, dont forget Biden won the election not because he had like 7 million more votes nationally but because of less than a million people combined in various swing states.

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luigi33
09/24/23 11:54:28 AM
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Imagine thinking polls this early out ever matters. Never has.

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Dark_Arbron
09/24/23 11:55:31 AM
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Putting the poll aside, the worst part is that were in a position where we have to assume he still wont be in prison by the 2024 election. Thats the biggest joke of all.

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