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FortuneCookie
09/22/23 10:25:36 AM
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I don't get Pokphilia.

There's nothing unethical about it. Pokmon have human intelligence. But even as a far end furry who likes the kinds of anthropomorphic characters that one would find in something like My Little Pony or The Lion King, they just look like basic animals/monsters drawn in a cutesy style.

I fully understand a humanoid gardevoir or an off-model lopunny which makes her more of a furry character. But that's an exception rather than a rule. My only guess as to why it's so popular is because people reach puberty while playing Pokmon and want to apply their new feelings to a franchise that they are already enthusiastic about.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/3/AAdlC_AAD_Xp.jpg

Also, no special characters allowed in the title? What if someone's name is Andr?
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ArtiRock
09/22/23 10:27:53 AM
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Because there are a ton of humanoid ones.

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A_Good_Boy
09/22/23 10:28:37 AM
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https://youtu.be/lWIQNY2oz_g?si=7pRO8Ri8F6CkeM8y

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sauceje
09/22/23 10:29:22 AM
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you just reminded me I haven't been seeing drunkoak in my recommended videos lately... weird
EDIT: seems like he's on a hiatus, sucks

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DementedDurian
09/22/23 10:29:42 AM
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I used to fantasize about Leaf when I was a teenager.

It also feels weird still playing a kid when you're a grown adult who wants to their avatar to be beautiful since I'm quite ugly in real life.

Maybe I should get the Toxic Chain and become the next Fezandipiti.

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MICHALECOLE
09/22/23 10:31:56 AM
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I dont get this fetish

well yeah, its a fetish. Youre not gonna get every fetish.
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Avirosb
09/22/23 10:35:31 AM
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I blame Digimon.

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LearntoRead
09/22/23 10:37:56 AM
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I gave up on trying to get this stuff a long time ago. At least we got Plagueofgripes out of all this.
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Doe
09/22/23 10:40:22 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...

This is the original as far as I know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqn-eQmiIaA

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FortuneCookie
09/22/23 10:40:23 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I dont get this fetish

well yeah, its a fetish. Youre not gonna get every fetish.

Yeah, but there's usually some underling theme that's easy to grasp. Dominance, submission, humiliation, etc. I don't "get" cuckolding, but I understand that people who are into it like being humiliated and put out by better competition. What's the underscore of Pokphilia? Animal passions? Cuteness? Pleasure mixed with whimsy?

There are certain kinks that I would never ask about. Anytime you ask, "What's the appeal?", there's a possibility that it could click for you and open up a new door. I don't want from a lot of kinks. If I woke up tomorrow thinking that Jigglypuff is one of the hottest girls in gaming, I could probably live with that. I just have to know what it is that others see that I can't see.
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the_rowan
09/22/23 10:56:17 AM
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A lot of the designs are just really appealing for the same reasons other furry stuff is appealing. I don't give a shit about Pokemon in general, but I absolutely love how Decidueye, Talonflame, Corviknight, Noivern, etc. look when artists draw them.

What I do absolutely hate is the creepy-as-fuck thing in the porn where every Pokemon calls the person they're banging "master" as if they're a will-less sex slave. I don't care if you make a character use a feral body as long as they're a fully sapient and equal being, but if you add in the whole Pokemon "trainer = master" thing, it doesn't matter how humanoid or animalistic they are, it's just creepy to me.

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Pikachuchupika
09/22/23 11:01:17 AM
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It's very weird. It's a kids show. Not only they're sexualizing the trainers, but the pokemon too? What the heck.
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the_rowan
09/22/23 11:05:52 AM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
It's very weird. It's a kids show. Not only they're sexualizing the trainers, but the pokemon too? What the heck.

what the heck are you even talking about with the "it's a kid's show" nonsense
like have you been under a rock for the last 20 years?'

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WilliamPorygon
09/22/23 11:06:07 AM
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My only guess as to why it's so popular is because people reach puberty while playing Pokmon and want to apply their new feelings to a franchise that they are already enthusiastic about.

Back in the Red/Blue days when I was a teenager who already knew he had furry tendencies I tried very hard to convince myself that I didn't find Charizard sexy and couldn't sexualize Pokmon in general. But after a couple years I finally gave up on that.

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Xenogears15
09/22/23 11:08:49 AM
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People are attracted to Pokmon for the same reason they're furries.

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Pikachuchupika
09/22/23 11:09:25 AM
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the_rowan posted...
what the heck are you even talking about with the "it's a kid's show" nonsense
like have you been under a rock for the last 20 years?'

Found the weirdo.
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the_rowan
09/22/23 11:15:39 AM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Found the weirdo.

Are you really so absolutely mind-numbingly stupid that you think Pokemon is a kid's show and not a video game property that sells 25+ million copies each generation and has hundreds of successful people in their late 20s and 30s making content from it?

Anyone who played Pokemon Red when it released is now a minimum of about 30 years old btw (assuming we say you had to be 5 or so to play it, which is arguably still too young).

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HudGard
09/22/23 11:20:49 AM
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Forget the Pokemon. I straight up dont understand why all the human characters are sexualized.

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Pikachuchupika
09/22/23 11:28:36 AM
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the_rowan posted...
Are you really so absolutely mind-numbingly stupid that you think Pokemon is a kid's show and not a video game property that sells 25+ million copies each generation and has hundreds of successful people in their late 20s and 30s making content from it?

Anyone who played Pokemon Red when it released is now a minimum of about 30 years old btw (assuming we say you had to be 5 or so to play it, which is arguably still too young).

I don't know why you're so angry about that. It is a kid's show as well as a video game.
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WilliamPorygon
09/22/23 11:31:08 AM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
I don't know why you're so angry about that. It is a kid's show as well as a video game.
No, Peppa Pig is a kid's show. Pokmon is for all ages.

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the_rowan
09/22/23 11:31:25 AM
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HudGard posted...
Forget the Pokemon. I straight up dont understand why all the human characters are sexualized.

I also see literally zero appeal in anime children, but you could probably just make a mathematical argument that there's enough people that interact with it, and interest comes proportionally. I imagine the people who are into that stuff actually interact with the property directly much more often than in the case of the pokemon, where exposure is often just through furry sites.

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FortuneCookie
09/22/23 2:00:24 PM
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the_rowan posted...
What I do absolutely hate is the creepy-as-fuck thing in the porn where every Pokemon calls the person they're banging "master" as if they're a will-less sex slave. I don't care if you make a character use a feral body as long as they're a fully sapient and equal being, but if you add in the whole Pokemon "trainer = master" thing, it doesn't matter how humanoid or animalistic they are, it's just creepy to me.

That at least makes sense to me.

On a fundamental level, individuals tend to be sexually dominant or sexually submissive. Roleplay involving a willing subordinate -- or voluntarily being under another individual's power -- is more universal than, say, a cute plush dinosaur being an object of desire. (Not that I'm in any position to judge.)
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Foppe
09/22/23 2:03:33 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Also, no special characters allowed in the title? What if someone's name is Andr?
Then you will have to type Andre.

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MICHALECOLE
09/22/23 2:05:31 PM
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Why is this so brilliant?
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Prestoff
09/22/23 2:05:55 PM
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I find it degenerate myself, but i don't want to kink shame.

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Compsognathus
09/22/23 2:07:03 PM
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I don't get how you can be sexually attracted to Nala, who is just straight up a cartoon lion, and not get how people can be into Pokmon. Like they are very much in the same ballpark.

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cjsdowg
09/22/23 2:07:50 PM
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Time out, Pokmon are as smart as humans. That is horrifying. So humans make these animals with the brain capability of humans fight. They keep them as slaves, then when they don't want to use them. They put there soul into computer in place of letting them go.

That is fucked up.

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MICHALECOLE
09/22/23 2:10:04 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
I don't get how you can be sexually attracted to Nala, who is just straight up a cartoon lion, and not get how people can be into Pokmon. Like they are very much in the same ballpark.
He just doesnt get it, man. Like he cant wrap his mind around it, even though its really easy to wrap your mind around
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Southernfatman
09/22/23 2:10:47 PM
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I don't kinkshame furries, but wanting to fuck Pokemon is just something else.

cjsdowg posted...
Time out, Pokmon are as smart as humans. That is horrifying. So humans make these animals with the brain capability of humans fight. They keep them as slaves, then when they don't want to use them. They put there soul into computer in place of letting them go.

That is fucked up.

This too.

Compsognathus posted...
I don't get how you can be sexually attracted to Nala, who is just straight up a cartoon lion, and not get how people can be into Pokmon. Like they are very much in the same ballpark.

Wow really? That's some grade A hypocrisy there.

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GhostFaceLeaks
09/22/23 2:11:42 PM
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Pokemon is one franchise where no matter what you sexualize, it says a lot about you as a human being.

Either its the animals or the kids. It is one series that should never have sexualization happening.

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FortuneCookie
09/22/23 2:12:01 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
I don't get how you can be sexually attracted to Nala, who is just straight up a cartoon lion, and not get how people can be into Pokmon. Like they are very much in the same ballpark.

I wasn't judging them for it.

And Nala has a fairly humanoid face. Just sayin'.

>_>
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MICHALECOLE
09/22/23 2:12:59 PM
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GhostFaceLeaks posted...
Pokemon is one franchise where no matter what you sexualize, it says a lot about you as a human being.

Either its the animals or the kids. It is one series that should never have sexualization happening.
Nurse joy, officer Jenny, professor oak
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AldousIsDead
09/22/23 2:13:36 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/8/AAWLQcAAE3TQ.jpg

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Compsognathus
09/22/23 2:14:14 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I wasn't judging them for it.

And Nala has a fairly humanoid face. Just sayin'.

>_>
Maybe for a Kahjit. But its a far cry from human.

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FortuneCookie
09/22/23 2:14:29 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Wow really? That's some grade A hypocrisy there.

Woah. Hey, hey, hey...

I wasn't judging. I wasn't kinkshaming.
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EthanSilver
09/22/23 2:14:36 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
I dont get this fetish

well yeah, its a fetish. Youre not gonna get every fetish.
Yeah, you're not supposed to get em... in a sense.

I don't get it either. But it's not like I'm supposed to anyway.

Nor MLP... heck, didn't even know Lion King was a thing!
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GranAures
09/22/23 2:14:50 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Nurse joy, officer Jenny, professor oak
All the moms.

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ArtiRock
09/22/23 2:15:47 PM
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GhostFaceLeaks posted...
Pokemon is one franchise where no matter what you sexualize, it says a lot about you as a human being.

Either its the animals or the kids. It is one series that should never have sexualization happening.
Bruh, the gym leaders are all grown ass adults more than half of the time. The villains? All adults. It doesn't say anything about them, because there's a ton of character designs that are really good.

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Southernfatman
09/22/23 2:16:07 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Woah. Hey, hey, hey...

I wasn't judging. I wasn't kinkshaming.

Alright then. Still though, how do you not understand where those folks are coming from?

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cjsdowg
09/22/23 2:16:32 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
Maybe for a Kahjit. But its a far cry from human.

How can someone he attracted to a kahjit...all they do is sneak into towns and steal.

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MICHALECOLE
09/22/23 2:16:35 PM
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If you were a sheep, would you fuck another sheep, if you were a sheep
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Piplup_Sniper
09/22/23 2:16:46 PM
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the_rowan posted...
A lot of the designs are just really appealing for the same reasons other furry stuff is appealing. I don't give a shit about Pokemon in general, but I absolutely love how Decidueye, Talonflame, Corviknight, Noivern, etc. look when artists draw them.

What I do absolutely hate is the creepy-as-fuck thing in the porn where every Pokemon calls the person they're banging "master" as if they're a will-less sex slave. I don't care if you make a character use a feral body as long as they're a fully sapient and equal being, but if you add in the whole Pokemon "trainer = master" thing, it doesn't matter how humanoid or animalistic they are, it's just creepy to me.
That's the thing, the usage of master is correct. There is pokedex entry refers to the trainer as a "master":
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/9/AARO5TAAE3TR.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/0/AARO5TAAE3TS.jpg
The talking Lucario in the 8th movie also referred to it's trainer as it's master too.

Fundamentally the relationship between Pokemon and Trainer is that of a pet and owner which goes back to Tajiri's conception of Pokemon as being innocent and friends to humans like pets, or more specifically cats and dogs. This is something he put emphasis in his 2019 biography and something he talked about in the 90s in a book he wrote. GameFreak wrote the same in the 1990s Japan only Pokedex and a GameFreak employeewho wrote a book on game design mentioned how they started to conceptualize Pokemon Trainers as being more like pet owners.

In the games and anime Pokemon behave and are treated as pets, from the food they eat, they eat dog food off the floor in the anime, to their dog and cat like behaviors in the games, like chewing on grass, barking and having zoomies, to the activities the player has with them, like playing fetch. A big part of the issue comes from this, Pokemon are conceptualized as being pet-like animal-like creatures, which has been admitted by the people who run and worked on the series, so it's natural that in those scenarios you describe those types of terms are used because they're apt based off the series. The problem comes with trying to use them in sexual context which comes off as creepy and manipulative.

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codey
09/22/23 2:16:49 PM
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the_rowan posted...
Are you really so absolutely mind-numbingly stupid that you think Pokemon is a kid's show and not a video game property that sells 25+ million copies each generation and has hundreds of successful people in their late 20s and 30s making content from it?

Anyone who played Pokemon Red when it released is now a minimum of about 30 years old btw (assuming we say you had to be 5 or so to play it, which is arguably still too young).

Adults playing Pokemon games doesn't make it any less of a franchise aimed squarely at children

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GhostFaceLeaks
09/22/23 2:16:52 PM
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ArtiRock posted...
Bruh, the gym leaders are all grown ass adults more than half of the time. The villains? All adults. It doesn't say anything about them, because there's a ton of character designs that are really good.

It's a childrens franchise. The child characters outweigh the adult characters even when you include the adults. There's child Gym leaders and elite 4 members. And most people are going to think of the anime which de-aged some characters instead of the adult versions of them in other media.

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EthanSilver
09/22/23 2:17:19 PM
#47:


cjsdowg posted...
How can someone he attracted to a kahjit...all they do is sneak into towns and steal.
You freaking racist!

Kahjit are life!

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Southernfatman
09/22/23 2:18:09 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
How can someone he attracted to a kahjit...all they do is sneak into towns and steal.

Ulfric Stormcloak over here.

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ArtiRock
09/22/23 2:24:50 PM
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GhostFaceLeaks posted...
It's a childrens franchise. The child characters outweigh the adult characters even when you include the adults. There's child Gym leaders and elite 4 members. And most people are going to think of the anime which de-aged some characters instead of the adult versions of them in other media.
Not really. Most of the characters you run into the game are actually adults. That doesn't even begin to touch the tip of the iceberg for the actual manga as well. The only time that people are generally de-aged or children constantly is in the anime itself.

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Compsognathus
09/22/23 2:25:45 PM
#50:


EthanSilver posted...
You freaking racist!

Kahjit are life!

I'll fight you! Me and you! OUtside right now!
You don't need to tell people about your rug fetish.

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