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Caracalla
09/19/23 8:00:42 PM
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A Japanese man "married" to a virtual pop star is campaigning for "fictosexuals" to have the same rights as every other Japanese and for a halt to the "persecution" of people in relationships with fictional characters.
Akihiko Kondo, a 40-year-old civil servant from Tokyo, married the virtual character Hatsune Miku in November 2018 but has been confronted with a series of obstacles since he first fell in love with the blue-haired performer a decade earlier.
Earlier this year, he created the FictoSexual Association for other people in similar relationships to fight discrimination.
Kondo said he first fell in love with Miku when he saw her singing on a Japanese television program, and he credits her with seeing him through a challenging time.
"I've never had a real girlfriend or lover, but I've had a number of girlfriends who were characters from anime or computer games," Kondo told DW.
Resistance to 'fictosexual' lifestyle
"But when I met Hatsune Miku, I was on leave because I was being bullied at work," he said. "I was sad, and I cried every day. At the most difficult time in my life, Hatsune Miku was the one who supported me. She saved me."
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Irony
09/19/23 8:01:32 PM
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I'm down but I'm not down with it being called fictosexual

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:03:45 PM
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Sign me up fam

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nocturnal_traveler
09/19/23 8:04:48 PM
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I'm already tolerating the fact that they're choosing to marry fictional characters. I'm not going to call them fictosexuals. Not unless the fictional character gains sentience, that is.

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supervaan
09/19/23 8:05:21 PM
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lol

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Blue_Inigo
09/19/23 8:05:43 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/8/AAaaLFAADxrA.jpg

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Prestoff
09/19/23 8:06:08 PM
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Link to article? I refuse to believe this is a real thing.

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cjsdowg
09/19/23 8:06:12 PM
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Fuck that Hatsune Miku, never said she wanted to marry the asshole.

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Bass
09/19/23 8:06:14 PM
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What happens when multiple people try to marry the same character?

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:06:19 PM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
I'm already tolerating the fact that they're choosing to marry fictional characters. I'm not going to call them fictosexuals. Not unless the fictional character gains sentience, that is.
They wouldn't want to marry us if they were sentient.

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YugiNoob
09/19/23 8:07:13 PM
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Caracalla posted...
I've never had a real girlfriend or lover,
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/5/AAPV5JAAE2y3.jpg

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:07:28 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Link to article? I refuse to believe this is a real thing.
Not sure about fictosexuals but the guy in the article is real and yes he really did "marry" Hatsune Miku.

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nocturnal_traveler
09/19/23 8:07:47 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
They wouldn't want to marry us if they were sentient.
Not unless they become yandere ai.

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ViewtifulJoe
09/19/23 8:08:08 PM
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Bass posted...
What happens when multiple people try to marry the same character?
Do they all get their own personalised version?
Similar to how all these people who want to marry robots are planning to customise it somehow?

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Irony
09/19/23 8:09:04 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
They wouldn't want to marry us if they were sentient.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/7/AAJHVqAAEk7T.jpg

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ViewtifulJoe
09/19/23 8:09:55 PM
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That's a dumb picture because if his wish came true, wouldn't that entail her liking him too?

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AceMos
09/19/23 8:10:12 PM
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this is insulting to those of us in the LGBT community who struggle to protect our rights

hell japan is just now starting to accept same sex marriage

and this jack ass wants to legalize his pretend marriage

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Turbam
09/19/23 8:10:51 PM
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Dude sounds like a nut job

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Inohira
09/19/23 8:11:32 PM
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The legal problem here is that literally anyone could file one of these unions and claim marriage benefits. Said benefits being specifically targeted towards people mating with another actual real person. It defeats the point of the distinction.

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:11:49 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
That's a dumb picture because if his wish came true, wouldn't that entail her liking him too?
No it just says he made her real. But a real sentient being will have their own feelings on the matter and won't neccesarily like you. If he forced her to love him, that's manipulation.

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ViewtifulJoe
09/19/23 8:15:33 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
No it just says he made her real. But a real sentient being will have their own feelings on the matter and won't neccesarily like you. If he forced her to love him, that's manipulation.
So next time he just makes the wish better. I feel like anyone who was in that situation would think their wording through instead of just dropping whatever tormented, battle hardened fictional character he's picked out into the real world.
Or he goes back and goes "Hey uh wish addendum can you get her to like me too?"

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SpawnShadow
09/19/23 8:16:21 PM
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People like this make me feel slightly less ashamed of being a total loser, if only because I'm not that bad.
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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:18:45 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
So next time he just makes the wish better. I feel like anyone who was in that situation would think their wording through instead of just dropping whatever tormented, battle hardened fictional character he's picked out into the real world.
Or he goes back and goes "Hey uh wish addendum can you get her to like me too?"
I think that would still be manipulation. Part of the reason I'd never make one of my waifus real, I wouldn't want to manipulate anyone so I'd just be bringing a life into this cursed world for no reason.

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:20:22 PM
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SpawnShadow posted...
People like this make me feel slightly less ashamed of being a total loser, if only because I'm not that bad.
If you're not that bad, are you actually a total loser? You merely adopted the loser.

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Prismsblade
09/19/23 8:22:00 PM
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Bass posted...
What happens when multiple people try to marry the same character?
Being frictional You can create a infinite number of said characters so that's really not a issue. So while there would be many like her, the one you own is yours.

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SpawnShadow
09/19/23 8:24:42 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
If you're not that bad, are you actually a total loser? You merely adopted the loser.
Fair enough. It's more accurate to say that I thought I was at the bottom of the barrel, but these dorks managed to be even lower than me. Seriously, even I want to beat these losers up and steal their lunch money.
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ViewtifulJoe
09/19/23 8:24:50 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
I think that would still be manipulation. Part of the reason I'd never make one of my waifus real, I wouldn't want to manipulate anyone so I'd just be bringing a life into this cursed world for no reason.
I don't think the guy spending wishes on this sort of thing cares about that. He probably sees other people doing the same thing and gives himself a pass.
Or he hates the world but he loves the idea of having someone who goes "Well, real life sucks but I have you and that makes it all okay!" every day.

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:26:23 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
I don't think the guy spending wishes on this sort of thing cares about that. He probably sees other people doing the same thing and gives himself a pass.
Or he hates the world but he loves the idea of having someone who goes "Well, real life sucks but I have you and that makes it all okay!" every day.
Personally I'd just make myself fictional instead. Maybe my waifu still wouldn't love me but anything's better than this dump we call the real world.

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DKBananaSlamma
09/19/23 8:27:53 PM
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There's nothing more pure than the love between a man and his waifu


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ViewtifulJoe
09/19/23 8:30:29 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Personally I'd just make myself fictional instead. Maybe my waifu still wouldn't love me but anything's better than this dump we call the real world.
And then someone falls in love with the tragedy of your life, sees aspects themselves in you and wishes you to be real again.

Except they're also scared other people will also create real life versions of you so they personalise you by making you wear a monocle, boxing gloves and two backpacks at all times.

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ai123
09/19/23 8:31:21 PM
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There's no consent, no mutuality.

It's just a fantasy with a few props to aid the imagination.

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ChocoboMog123
09/19/23 8:33:05 PM
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Not the TC I expected.

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Prestoff
09/19/23 8:40:50 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Not sure about fictosexuals but the guy in the article is real and yes he really did "marry" Hatsune Miku.

My first instinct would go and make fun of guys like him (it would be too easy), but another part of me feels sorry for people like him because something must've happened to them in real life that fucked them up soo much they rather live in this fantasy world and take that fantasy world with them in real life. I hate to sound like a boomer, but I can't believe this is the world we live in lol.

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:50:30 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
There's nothing more pure than the love between a man and his waifu
Heck yeah brother!

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Prestoff
09/19/23 8:53:59 PM
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It's just me coping because I refuse to believe anyone can be this pathetic to not only want to actually marry a fictional character, but then to unironically fight to get something as "fictosexual" to be a real thing and to also get an actual real marriage license for something like this (not to mention the amount of legal problems that would arise if this were to somehow become a real thing).

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 8:54:14 PM
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Prestoff posted...
My first instinct would go and make fun of guys like him (it would be too easy), but another part of me feels sorry for people like him because something must've happened to them in real life that fucked them up soo much they rather live in this fantasy world and take that fantasy world with them in real life. I hate to sound like a boomer, but I can't believe this is the world we live in lol.
Tbh I find myself slipping further from reality as time goes on. Doesn't help I've always been way too immersed in fiction since I was a child. Life is difficult. And yet there are some who suffer even more. There is no escape for them, not even in make believe. The longer you live, the more it chips away at your soul.

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ViewtifulJoe
09/19/23 8:55:54 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Tbh I find myself slipping further from reality as time goes on. Doesn't help I've always been way too immersed in fiction since I was a child. Life is difficult. And yet there are some who suffer even more. There is no escape for them, not even in make believe. The longer you live, the more it chips away at your soul.
Are you going to get to the part where you tell us all about your waifu and how much being near this character boosts your power level or not?

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Prestoff
09/19/23 9:02:43 PM
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BloodMoon7 posted...
Tbh I find myself slipping further from reality as time goes on. Doesn't help I've always been way too immersed in fiction since I was a child. Life is difficult. And yet there are some who suffer even more. There is no escape for them, not even in make believe. The longer you live, the more it chips away at your soul.

Been there, especially during my teen and early college years. I got lucky that I had a great mentor, in both fitness and life advices, that ultimately helped me get out of that difficult part of my life when I was severely depressed. I wasn't until waifu stuff, but I was heavily into the metal scene so medieval stuff was my jam for awhile.

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Prestoff
09/19/23 9:05:44 PM
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If you want to love your own waifu, more power to you. But the idea that anyone wants to turn "fictosexual" into a sexuality and to unironically fight to get a marriage license for your fictional character is in my opinion, pathetic and something that should not be encouraged.

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bigtiggie23
09/19/23 9:12:25 PM
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Will this mean all future illustrations of the character will have to include a wedding ring?

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Robot2600
09/19/23 9:15:13 PM
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I find it hard to believe he was bullied at work.

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 9:20:34 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Are you going to get to the part where you tell us all about your waifu and how much being near this character boosts your power level or not?
I have too many waifus, if they boosted my power level, I could do a Thanos snap.

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 9:22:28 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
I find it hard to believe he was bullied at work.
I don't, I hear it's actually a pretty big issue in Japan, the work culture can get pretty toxic but you're supposed to just deal with it.

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Robot2600
09/19/23 9:29:12 PM
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You see I am very sarcastic and mean.

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BloodMoon7
09/19/23 9:31:27 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
You see I am very sarcastic and mean.
Same

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