Poll of the Day > Would you leave Earth to settle an alien planet?

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If there was significant compensation for it maybe. Otherwise its just another patch of dirt.

Nope.

Maybe if the planets had been around, fully explored and researched, and actively settled for thousands of years, I'd consider it.

But as is I'm not even willing to move to Europe, let alone being the first to trailblaze a new frontier. I've never been much of a neophile, and I hate camping and nature and "roughing it", so a planet without infrastructure is pretty much the definition of hell for me.

I'm also not super-keen on signing up for a settlement mission where you're pretty much flinging yourself into the abyss and hoping everything goes right, and there's a high likelihood you're going to fail and you and everyone with you is going to die (quite possibly in some gruesome ways).

200 years ago, I wouldn't have been one of the people on the Oregon Trail. 500 years ago I wouldn't have been one of the people traveling to the New World. I'm too old and not desperate/unsatisfied enough to want to throw literally everything away and try to start over.

Metalsonic66 posted...

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The only real problem with this planet is the humans.

No matter what other planet you can possibly go to, you'll always be bringing that problem with you.

No. I dont really want to have to try that hard to survive, tbh

That said, I wouldnt want to be away from family and friends, either And theres no way Id be able to take them all, so theres that, as well

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The only real problem with this planet is the humans.

No matter what other planet you can possibly go to, you'll always be bringing that problem with you.

you sir, win the internet today

I remember when I thought nuclear fusion was the key to interstellar space travel because tech science channels hyped it up like that.

Now that I understand the science from real scientists, nuclear fusion is like the least space efficient form of energy production and isn't going to fly us anywhere or even be used to produce energy at all, because the whole point is that it happens incredibly slowly to not burn out stars immediately, and the human body outputs like 100* more energy in heat than the sun does for the same amount of space.

So, uuhh, maybe we have made a lot of optimistic assumptions about the short term future of space travel

I'd prefer it if it was earth like and explorable. But depending on the conditions and offers I would consider an inhospitable one.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The only real problem with this planet is the humans.

No matter what other planet you can possibly go to, you'll always be bringing that problem with you.

Missssster Andersssson

Peace and merger between the US and the USSR in 1990, now that was some high expectations.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

you sir, win the internet today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRtXRoU2DY



Metalsonic66 posted...

Missssster Andersssson

Hey, the man wasn't wrong.

This is the point where I'd link to a video on YouTube from Red Dwarf back in the 80s where Lister makes a comment about how humans are basically a disease, and all the other planets avoid Earth because "Eww, she's got humans!"... but I've tried to find that one before and never seem able to.



EDIT: Tracked down a transcription:

LISTER: Why does it have to be such a big deal? Why cant it be like, like, human beings are a planetary disease? Like the Earths got German measles or facial herpes, right? And thats why all of the other planets give us such a wide berth. Its like, Oh, dont go near Earth! Its got human beings on it, theyre contagious!

DirtBasedSoap posted...

you sir, win the internet today

Do you listen to Muse?

Depends on what job I would have.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Hey, the man wasn't wrong.

I'd be a pioneer and ride those rocks for miles

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The only real problem with this planet is the humans.

No matter what other planet you can possibly go to, you'll always be bringing that problem with you.

Well by the time humans completely fuck up whatever planet you move to you'll be long dead

I don't think I would leave Earth. If the planet is a paradise, then maybe I would. However, there is no such thing as a paradise planet.

Zareth posted...

Well by the time humans completely fuck up whatever planet you move to you'll be long dead

Yes, but humans start fucking up wherever they happen to be about 30 seconds after arriving.

And if we're going to be honest, humans won't completely fuck up this planet until after I'm dead, so that's pretty much a wash.

Away from humans yes

if technology for it doesn't suck and the planet isn't a big lump of shit, absolutely.

less humans, less bullshit.

Are the aliens attractive?

ParanoidObsessive posted...

But as is I'm not even willing to move to Europe, let alone being the first to trailblaze a new frontier. I've never been much of a neophile, and I hate camping and nature and "roughing it", so a planet without infrastructure is pretty much the definition of hell for me.

Ok, but you do realize that the U.S. and Canada are comparatively the new frontier compared to Europe, whose countries have been around much longer, right? Also, Europe in general is overall much safer than the U.S., if you compare the crime rates. And yes, this even includes much of eastern europe, despite current events....

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The only real problem with this planet is the humans.

No matter what other planet you can possibly go to, you'll always be bringing that problem with you.

Not really true. If you live here on earth in an overly cold or overly hot area*, the only thing keeping you comfortable, and at many times, ALIVE, are other humans and their technology. So I would classify dying as being a problem, so you kind of messed up with this post. Gamefaqers arent very good overall at accuracy, so dont feel bad, youre not alone on this forum when it comes to severe mistakes like this.

*Im not even bringing climate change into this, Im just talking about regular extreme temperatures that have nothing to do with climate change, that are both uncomfortable and deadly for humans, even in otherwise perfectly habitable parts of the earth.

EventualDecline posted...

Ok, but you do realize that the U.S. and Canada are comparatively the new frontier compared to Europe, whose countries have been around much longer, right?

But do you realize that as someone who was born and raised in the US and who has effectively spent my entire life there, I do not even remotely give a shit about any of that?

"Foreign" is subjective.



EventualDecline posted...

Not really true.

Absolutely fucking true.

About Niven he co-authored a book series about a colony that was pre-seeded with Earth like life. When they get there it does not go well. Think Jurassic Park.

Feels like this is the alien planet.

It depends on the circumstances and benefits. If Joe Biden decided to set off all of the US's nukes tomorrow and the world's surface was irradiated, suddenly a space colony looks more attractive.

Granted, if it's a Superman-type situation where the new planet makes me virtually immortal and OP as hell, that's an easy choice.

Zareth posted...

Well by the time humans completely fuck up whatever planet you move to you'll be long dead

Leave it to the human ego to believe that humans can "fuck up" a planet. A planet is a giant rock ball floating in space. We don't have the technology (yet) to shatter an entire planet. And I sometimes doubt that humanity as a species will ever band together and create the kind of technology needed to actually fuck up planets. Instead, we may have always have to settle for minor cosmetic damage.

Unlikely. Like others, I'm not nomadic and I'm happy right where I'm at.

But if the travel ever became convenient and safe, I might visit for a week or whatever.

Metalsonic66 posted...

Missssster Andersssson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgS1Lwr8gq8

Speaking of Larry Niven, I highly recommend his book "A World Out of Time" if you've never read it.

Nah. Many risks involved and even though we have ruined this planet this is the planet I'll die on.

Yes, as long as it's at least as good as Earth.

Count_Drachma posted...

Granted, if it's a Superman-type situation where the new planet makes me virtually immortal and OP as hell, that's an easy choice.

What if it's a reverse Superman situation where the new planet makes you incredibly weak and lame, and everyone points and laughs at you as you walk by?



DeathMagnetic80 posted...

Speaking of Larry Niven, I highly recommend his book "A World Out of Time" if you've never read it.

Speaking of both Larry Niven and Superman, I highly recommend his essay "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex" if you've never read it.

Maybe.

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No and my first thought as to why was what if the next guy I fall in love with stays on earth?!

if you wanna know where I am in life right now

PK_Spam posted...

the next guy I fall in love with

https://youtu.be/c-ENYuomYzA?t=55

awww dang when Arv seen this Arv thought it was a secret summon Captain Planet

Why settle an alien planet?

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If it were my only chance for survival, and the quality of life would be relatively high when I got there? Sure. Otherwise, too much effort.

Count_Drachma posted...

Leave it to the human ego to believe that humans can "f*** up" a planet. A planet is a giant rock ball floating in space. We don't have the technology (yet) to s***ter an entire planet. And I sometimes doubt that humanity as a species will ever band together and create the kind of technology needed to actually f*** up planets. Instead, we may have always have to settle for minor cosmetic damage.

Alternatively, you could just recognize that when people say things like that, they're talking about making the planet inhospitable for human life (usually just to such an extent that survival would require a substantial shift in how we live, not fully overwhelming humanity's adaptive capabilities and causing extinction), not actually blowing it up.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

But do you realize that as someone who was born and raised in the US and who has effectively spent my entire life there, I do not even remotely give a shit about any of that?

"Foreign" is subjective.

Just because you cant or wont visit other countries, doesnt mean that youve made a good point here. Repeatedly insisting that you either arent able to or dont want to travel to another country hardly helps your argument here. In fact, it hurts whatever point youre trying to make here, which doesnt seem to exist, anyway.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Absolutely fucking true.

I already proved that youre wrong, so absolutely not true. This is an example of your ideology failing you. Since humans arent the ONLY problem with earth, theres no way that youre right here. Its also debatable if humans IN GENERAL are really a problem. Individual humans can be a problem? Yes. Humans in large groups are a problem? Yes. Humans existing as a whole, being a problem? No real proof of that. That just sounds like your ideology failing you yet again.

EventualDecline posted...

Just because you cant or wont visit other countries, doesnt mean that youve made a good point here. Repeatedly insisting that you either arent able to or dont want to travel to another country hardly helps your argument here. In fact, it hurts whatever point youre trying to make here, which doesnt seem to exist, anyway.

I already proved that youre wrong, so absolutely not true. This is an example of your ideology failing you. Since humans arent the ONLY problem with earth, theres no way that youre right here. Its also debatable if humans IN GENERAL are really a problem. Individual humans can be a problem? Yes. Humans in large groups are a problem? Yes. Humans existing as a whole, being a problem? No real proof of that. That just sounds like your ideology failing you yet again.

Citation needed.

Revelation34 posted...

Citation needed.

Disease, dangerous insects, invasive species, parasites, tsunamis, extreme weather temperatures (not even climate change, just regular extreme temperatures). And another planets might have all or some of these things, possibly (probably) even worse. So no, humans arent the only problem. Theyre the only problem from what, the perspective of a tree? Are you and @ParanoidObsessive a tree?

Only a brainwashed ideologue would disagree with this. One who puts everything else ABOVE humans, which makes no logical sense, especially if were also talking about other planets. Why do you have an emotional attachment to other planets, and an obligation to one, above yourself and your species? LOL. What a user base on this website.

I'd go for it. For humanity to colonize other planets, someone has to be the first. If I die, I die.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

What if it's a reverse Superman situation where the new planet makes you incredibly weak and lame, and everyone points and laughs at you as you walk by?

That would not be a very appealing planet.

adjl posted...

Alternatively, you could just recognize that when people say things like that, they're talking about making the planet inhospitable for human life (usually just to such an extent that survival would require a substantial shift in how we live, not fully overwhelming humanity's adaptive capabilities and causing extinction), not actually blowing it up.

Most planets would need to be made hospitable for human life before we could make them inhospitable for human life.

And even with Earth, you'd have to substantially try to make it inhospitable, because the environment is pretty good at recovering or only maintaining that harm in small ways.

Revelation34 posted...

Citation needed.

I feel like the Earth has lots of problems that keep it from being a top tourist destination for aliens.

Here's the thing...

I'd TOTALLY want to go do alien planet stuff... but I'm pretty handicapped so I can't imagine ever being selected for such a thing

Man it would be so cool to hop around in a lower gravity environment

Might fuck up my organs in the long-term, though