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09/11/23 8:01:23 PM
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Inohira
09/11/23 9:01:39 PM
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One being overall better than the other doesn't mean they aren't both bad.

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Guide
09/11/23 9:04:17 PM
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It's an attempt at equating both sides as being just as bad, in order to downplay how terrible one side is and make the other look worse.

I'll take unstable people with bad dye jobs who take twitter too seriously over nazis.

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BewmHedshot
09/11/23 9:05:57 PM
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Because usually the "both sides" argument is being used to justify choosing the worse side.
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KajeI
09/11/23 9:07:13 PM
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Ask this question again on your main and find out.

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TetsuoS2
09/11/23 9:08:32 PM
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Tenlaar
09/11/23 9:09:12 PM
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Guide posted...
It's an attempt at equating both sides as being just as bad, in order to downplay how terrible one side is and make the other look worse.
It can be but its definitely not always the case and the reaction to people saying Republicans are obviously drastically worse on <whatever> but Democrats are still not good on <whatever> is generally exactly the same as actual both sidesing but with some comment about only saying Republicans are worse as some kind of cover.
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Kradek
09/11/23 9:09:41 PM
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Guide posted...
It's an attempt at equating both sides as being just as bad, in order to downplay how terrible one side is and make the other look worse.

I'll take unstable people with bad dye jobs who take twitter too seriously over nazis.

Second post already said all that needed to be said.

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hockeybub89
09/11/23 9:11:26 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
Because usually the "both sides" argument is being used to justify choosing the worse side.


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UnholyMudcrab
09/11/23 9:14:43 PM
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Whose alt is this

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ellis123
09/11/23 9:17:27 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/9/AAEv3mAAE1S1.jpg

Basically this.

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Nemu
09/11/23 9:24:18 PM
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Both sides of the both sides argument can be pointlessly vitriolic about the term. Some people clearly do not use it in good faith. Some people jump at anyone who uses the term due to some weird idea that "both sides" is never a reasonable take.
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AbsolutelyNoOne
09/11/23 9:29:21 PM
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Guide posted...
It's an attempt at equating both sides as being just as bad, in order to downplay how terrible one side is and make the other look worse.

I'll take unstable people with bad dye jobs who take twitter too seriously over nazis.
that

how the fuck is "the side that doesn't make excuses for nazis" and "the side with nazis, that also makes excuses for nazis" an actual debate for...way too many people

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EPR-radar
09/11/23 9:33:11 PM
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Nemu posted...
Both sides of the both sides argument can be pointlessly vitriolic about the term. Some people clearly do not use it in good faith. Some people jump at anyone who uses the term due to some weird idea that "both sides" is never a reasonable take.
In the US as applied to D vs. R in the 21st century, "both sides" is never a reasonable take.
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action52
09/11/23 9:38:27 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
Because usually the "both sides" argument is being used to justify choosing the worse side.
Or at least passively allowing the worse side to do as it wishes.

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Ruvan22
09/11/23 9:38:36 PM
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Agreed

Also it sometimes seems.. irrelevant? Person A killed 5 people... rarely does Person B killing one person have anything to do with Person A.
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specialkid8
09/11/23 9:39:57 PM
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Because tribalism is a helluva drug and people equate any critiquing of one (their) side as a wholesale promotion of the other side.

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Notti
09/11/23 9:42:54 PM
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Think of you playing a game. You're both bad at the game, but you're clearly winning.

He says "Let's just settle for a tie."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SI5nL8vZcl8

"All right. We'll call it a draw."

"Both sides" is a way for dishonest people to get away with what they don't deserve.


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Guide
09/11/23 9:45:30 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
Because tribalism is a helluva drug and people equate any critiquing of one (their) side as a wholesale promotion of the other side.

I don't think it applies to the both sides thing, but I do agree this goes around like a plague.

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bfslick50
09/11/23 9:46:18 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
Because tribalism is a helluva drug and people equate any critiquing of one (their) side as a wholesale promotion of the other side.

Its much more likely the person saying both sides is being tribalistic and using that line as a deflection. No I dont think what my side did was moral but you think your side is perfect? Both sides do bad things. Its a line that can be used to excuse literally anything.

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Axiom
09/11/23 9:46:58 PM
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Because the people that complain about both sides only ever seem to do it when it involves one particular side
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BunkerBoy
09/11/23 9:49:48 PM
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Tyranthraxus
09/11/23 9:51:35 PM
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Inohira posted...
One being overall better than the other doesn't mean they aren't both bad.

Because the argument isn't that one side is good the argument is one side is better. If you feel you can dispute that then do so.

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Euripides
09/11/23 9:52:53 PM
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https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1700899595339878716

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BunkerBoy
09/11/23 9:54:15 PM
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SaikyoStyle
09/11/23 9:57:28 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/5/AABM4yAAEss7.jpg

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Garabandal
09/11/23 9:58:08 PM
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BunkerBoy posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AANcx_AAD4iR.jpg
That last one is absolutely something a CEman would say

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specialkid8
09/11/23 9:58:09 PM
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bfslick50 posted...
Its much more likely the person saying both sides is being tribalistic and using that line as a deflection. No I dont think what my side did was moral but you think your side is perfect? Both sides do bad things. Its a line that can be used to excuse literally anything.
But that is a wild assumption to make any time someone says "this argument has holes in it as well". That's how you get smooth brain shit like that comic.

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A_Good_Boy
09/11/23 9:58:31 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/5/AABM4yAAEss7.jpg
JFC this one's CE so hard it's scary.

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Inohira
09/11/23 9:59:27 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/5/AABM4yAAEss7.jpg

But actually attacking both sides is the opposite of cowardly since you're the outsider taking on the majority.

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BunkerBoy
09/11/23 10:00:31 PM
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MC_BatCommander
09/11/23 10:01:28 PM
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Why do people cry both sides when the most vile garbage is coming from only one of the sides

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Inohira
09/11/23 10:03:27 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Why do people cry both sides when the most vile garbage is coming from only one of the sides

There are cases where both sides of an argument are being aggressive, insulting, and baselessly accusatory.

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MC_BatCommander
09/11/23 10:03:53 PM
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Inohira posted...
There are cases where both sides of an argument are being aggressive, insulting, and accusatory.

Mmhmm what cases are you referring to

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BunkerBoy
09/11/23 10:04:27 PM
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Inohira posted...
There are cases where both sides of an argument are being aggressive, insulting, and baselessly accusatory.
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Inohira
09/11/23 10:04:43 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...


Mmhmm what cases are you referring to

I've seen plenty names called here and gossip spread about users on both ends of debates.

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Tyranthraxus
09/11/23 10:04:52 PM
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Garabandal posted...
That last one is absolutely something a CEman would say
Has anyone ever even tried to understand the problems the asteroid cares about?

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KajeI
09/11/23 10:08:08 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Has anyone ever even tried to understand the problems the asteroid cares about?
Maybe if we empathize with the asteroid hard enough it'll decide to NOT hit earth. Did you ever think about that one, Libs?

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A_Good_Boy
09/11/23 10:09:04 PM
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Inohira posted...
There are cases where both sides of an argument are being aggressive, insulting, and baselessly accusatory.
One side is trying to criminalize transfolk, build concentration camps for Mexicans on the border, erase black people's contributions to history except for the place as slaves while making it easier to overturn their votes, and blames the jews for all of their problems. The other side is calling those people nazis and fascists. Clearly both sides are just very rude to each other.

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BunkerBoy
09/11/23 10:09:53 PM
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ragnarokius
09/11/23 10:10:23 PM
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Somewhere along the lines "both sides bad" became a catch phrase for those without any nuance whatsoever. It never meant "both sides equally bad", moreso "maybe the whole fucking thing needs looking at".

Someone somewhere benefits from the tribalism that allows and rewards the loudest of each faction immediately shutting down any discussion that's critical of the whole thing. Cause, you know, one side winning is ALL that stands between society and dystopia.

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SaikyoStyle
09/11/23 10:10:32 PM
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Inohira posted...
There are cases where both sides of an argument are being aggressive, insulting, and baselessly accusatory.
Baselessly

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BunkerBoy
09/11/23 10:10:59 PM
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ragnarokius
09/11/23 10:12:53 PM
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BunkerBoy posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/5/AAe283AAE1Tj.jpg
While that is a thing, and a terrible one, it isn't a one size fits all. There is a ton more nuance there than all that. But nuance isn't allowed in the discussion online. It's all for or all against.

Frankly, it's annoying.

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A_Good_Boy
09/11/23 10:14:26 PM
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ragnarokius posted...
While that is a thing, and a terrible one, it isn't a one size fits all. There is a ton more nuance there than all that. But nuance isn't allowed in the discussion online. It's all for or all against.

Frankly, it's annoying.
What topics are you thinking of where there's nuance on both sides worth considering for discussion?

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Inohira
09/11/23 10:14:35 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...

Baselessly

Yes plenty of accusations posted on GFAQs are factually incorrect.

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FolkenRawr
09/11/23 10:15:00 PM
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ragnarokius posted...
While that is a thing, and a terrible one, it isn't a one size fits all. There is a ton more nuance there than all that. But nuance isn't allowed in the discussion online. It's all for or all against.

Frankly, it's annoying.

What?

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Tyranthraxus
09/11/23 10:15:08 PM
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ragnarokius posted...
While that is a thing, and a terrible one, it isn't a one size fits all. There is a ton more nuance there than all that. But nuance isn't allowed in the discussion online. It's all for or all against.

Frankly, it's annoying.
lmfao this dude literally has a nuanced opinion on national socialism

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ragnarokius
09/11/23 10:16:27 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
What topics are you thinking of where there's nuance on both sides worth considering for discussion?
Yeah, you aren't gonna get me to answer that loaded fucking question, lol. Anyone realistic or that takes part in discussions in reality would have at least an inkling of what I am getting at. Most people aren't the caricatures of themselves they portray online, or as extreme.

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