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Trumpo posted...

Prometheus is the best movie in the Alien franchise.

While I prefer the first Alien, Prometheus is second for me, over Aliens.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

You have the intro song, cant wait to be king and be prepared amd you say its visually boring?! The live action was a real example of being visually boring.

When they're not doing musical set pieces. Should have specified I guess. Just the way the characters and foreground is animated is so bland to me. Even the Mufasa in the clouds scene, while looking better than most of the movie, isn't as well done as it could have been. Ironically the most visually striking scene is the one where they got a computer to copypaste 300 wildebeests.

Comparatively with films like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Hunchback, Tarzan, Rescuers Down Under, or even Hercules, gimmicky as it is, or Pocahontas, racist as it is, there's just not a lot going on for me in Lion King. It's almost like they wanted to make the visual experience of the film "realistic", or down to earth in the regular scenes to, I suppose, showcase the smoothness of the animal characters' movements and contrast it with the more stylistic musical number sequences. Which is definitely not a bad idea. I just don't think it works very well. But obviously I'm extremely alone in that view.

Ryven posted...

Some great takes IMO. Here's my Bondian hot takes:

Tomorrow Never Dies is the worst Bond movie of the entire franchise, The World Is Not Enough is right behind it. And i agree completely on Michelle Yeoh - Wai Lin is one of the most forgettable Bond girls ever, and it wasn't Michelle Yeoh's fault.

Die Another Day is a great Bond movie.......until it moves to Iceland. Gustav Graves, Zao, both good villains.

Of Dalton's two movies, License To Kill is much better than Living Daylights (and you will never convince me otherwise), even though it has THE. WORST. TWO. BOND GIRLS. Of the entire franchise, and yes that's even after considering Christmas Jones.

Live And Let Die is kind of offensive in that every single black person in the movie is either portrayed as a bad guy from the get go or revealed as a villain later on. The ONLY one I can think of who isn't a villain is the one cop who corners Bond in an alley but even he starts off seemingly a bad guy since he has a gun on Bond.

And here's a hot take that's going to floor everybody - Spectre is the 2nd best of the Craig films behind Casino Royale.

Im into most of these. I find tomorrow never dies meh and The World is Not Enough missed opportunities. Theres something there but it just doesnt coalesce. I feel sort of the same way about The Living Daylights except I feel it could have been top tier.

Yeah the two ladies from License to Kill are bad, Tonya Roberts is worse.

Connery should have done OHMSS, Lazenby should have done YOLT. There isnt really much beyond action for Lazenby and he would have been better suited.

Live and Let Die is tough to be sure. I do mostly like Jane Seymour and the boat chase is great.

And damn right about Die Another Day. Up to the end of the sword fight its top tier. I cant think of another movie that gets worse and worse and worse the second half.

the dark knight and iron man ushered in a new dark age for hollywood, similar to what jaws/star wars did with ending new hollywood and bringing high concept blockbusters to the forefront

TripleDouble posted...

Dances with wolves

all of them

because he's in them

Zithers posted...

the dark knight and iron man ushered in a new dark age for hollywood, similar to what jaws/star wars did with ending new hollywood and bringing high concept blockbusters to the forefront

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The Equalizer 3 - Denzel kicking ass in Italy

This isn't so much a hot movie take, but Tim Allen hasn't been in anything good since Toy Story. Toy Story and Home Improvement were his only defining roles. I haven't seen Last Man Standing though.

Ivany2008 posted...

This isn't so much a hot movie take, but Tim Allen hasn't been in anything good since Toy Story. Toy Story and Home Improvement were his only defining roles. I haven't seen Last Man Standing though.

He was great in Galaxy Quest.

ForsakenHermit posted...

He was great in Galaxy Quest.

Never watched it, take your word on it. I was more or less thinking recently lol.

Robocop 2 and 3 and Ghostbusters 2 are pretty respectable sequels

Most comedy movies are dreadfully stale

The simpsons movie is just a bunch of good lines strung together by bad characterization and a flimsy plot

The DC animated movies are infinitely better than most of the live action ones

The additions in the lotr and hobbit extended versions are incredible and expand the scope of the world building greatly

Batman Returns is still the best Batman movie with The Batman being a close second

Most of the original 13 DBZ movies are okay at best

The Fast and the Furious movies are genuinely enjoyable

Spaceballs isn't nearly as good as I remembered

Halloween 3 > 2

Donnie darko was a piece of garbage.
The avatar movies are so boring.
Xmen 2 sucked ass

VampireCoyote posted...

The Wachowskis are way ahead of their time and audiences are simply too stupid and enamored with familiar experiences to appreciate what they create.

I thought they were pretty respected in the industry?

Anyway, I dont care for super hero movies or anything that relies too heavily on CGI or blue screen. I liked when they made monster costumes and puppets and used real effects in stuff. I also dont care for any of the Star Wars movies after the original three.

Even though I do enjoy a good porn video, I feel like sometimes movies have smut just for the purpose of having it. Really not necessary and it sort of sucks that you cant watch most stuff rated R in mixed company without a graphic sex scene. Just saying.

The problem with the Star Wars Prequels isnt the acting or the cringy dialogue or any of the characters.

Its that George Lucas took one of historys most notorious events in the rise of fascism and completely missed the mark on what happened. The entire story from start to finish was just ridiculously stupid and wed have been better off never meeting Anakin Skywalker the character as he is currently portrayed. If this is what George Lucas thought was supposed to happen in 1980, he should have rethought the whole thing and never had to father son moment that seemingly came out of left field anyway.

Torgo posted...

Goodfellas is an epic crime drama masterpiece that is one of the greatest films ever made, fight me!

I think that movie is not meant for everyone. It's definitely in it's own world, and there are very few movies that approximate the feel of rural American high school in that late 80s period.

Lots of gritty dramatic movies about high school in the early 80s... lots of flashy rich 90s high school representation in California, but Napoleon Dynamite has this very nostalgic feel, despite not specifically being set at any stated year.

If you can't relate to that feel and time, I totally get it.

Oh no, you got me wrong. Its more the characters in the movie that I hate, especially Napoleon with his annoying mannerisms.

Im the extremely tiny circle on the diagram that is annoyed Napoleon Dynamite lifted an Elvis Costello stage name from the eighties.

TripleDouble posted...

Dances with wolves

It's not the hottest take, but that film was a white messiah movie.

Kevin Costner teaches the Native Americans how to be better Native Americans and won't let them get any screentime or characterization in a movie that's supposed to be about their persecution.

Tree of Life is boring, self-indulgent, pretentious garbage.

YugiNoob posted...

Napoleon Dynamite was annoying

I find it entertaining because of the brother dynamic. I had a friend in my childhood was alot like Napoleon in looks and similar personallity. We were friends through 70% of school life. In middle and highschool he was in the nerd group so by that token I was too. I got bullied for that friendship. His brother was similar to him. So when I watch ND it puts me back in that time. If I had not met them I would not be a big of a gamer. They introduced me to DND and RPGS, esp... the ultima games. I think the whole movie is ridiculously funny

Predator was perfect and they should have stopped there.

Yeah, I love Napoleon Dynamite, but I can completely understand if other don't like the movie.

The Hateful 8 is the best Tarantino film by far

Manhunter is far and away the best "Hannibal Lecter" film (including the tv show) and Brian Cox's short portrayal of the character is much more enjoyable than Anthony's Hopkins' extremely theatrical ham performance.

Priere posted...

The Hateful 8 is the best Tarantino film by far

Bastards is 2nd, then Pulp.

vycebrand2 posted...

Bastards is 2nd, then Pulp.

Im not sure if my view of Jackie Brown as best Tarantino is even a hot take anymore.

I liked Hulk 03 best.

The Shining miniseries was better.

Anything Star Wars related is not good. This includes the original trilogy.

Priere posted...

The Hateful 8 is the best Tarantino film by far

Hmm, I like westerns but I got to go with Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown.

Hateful 8 I enjoyed, but I don't get the urge to re-watch it like many of his other films, especially the earlier stuff.

Big_Nabendu posted...

Donnie darko was a piece of garbage.

You didn't get it. It went over your head. Fight me.

Just kidding, I can see why some people might not enjoy Donnie Darko, but it's really unique and interesting and it really drew me in and I loved it.

Problem with Hateful 8 for me is that I was actually invested in the setup mystery, but it turns out the film itself didnt care about it.

The Fifth Element is one of the best movies ever made, it is lighting in a bottle that can only happen when the right people work on the right project at the right time. By all conventional standards the big studious are unlikely to allow such a move to be made, and by all the usual standards it should not work - but it ends up being a uniquely amazing thing.

The Fifth Element and Galaxy Quest are the best sci-fi movies of the 90s, despite both being comedies to one extent or another.

The Batman is arguably the best live-action Batman movie ever made and yes, that includes The Dark Knight

They need to stop with every big movie being longer than two and a half hours, it's getting annoying.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The Batman is arguably the best live-action Batman movie ever made and yes, that includes The Dark Knight

Correct

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The Batman is arguably the best live-action Batman movie ever made and yes, that includes The Dark Knight

I think most people are in agreement that it's top tier. Personally, I think it and Batman Returns are the best live-action bat movies. I think TDK is aging pretty badly, for me, and I think I like Batman 89 better, placing TDK at a strict fourth place.

Ari Asters movies are thematic shock value. Hereditary was carried entirely by Toni Collette. Midsommar is a paint-by-numbers horror film, and its most interesting detail was making the anthropologist black and the people who find the Harga savages be South Asian.

TRON legacy is one of the most unique sequels we have gotten in the last 2 to 3 decades and its soundtrack deserved an Oscar win

Having a white person play a fictional role that isnt traditionally white can be ok under certain circumstances but you also must accept whites being played by minorities as well.

Eternals is going to age extremely well the further we get away from it. It's ambitious, unique, and beautiful to look at. We need more CBMs like it.

Wonder Woman 1984 was a hopeful and joyful homage to the silver age of superhero storytelling, and while flawed it came about at the most cynical time if recent history and would've been appreciated more if itd released a year earlier.

WALL-E is one of the best movies released in the last 25 years. Not just animated, movies period.

The Last Jedi is the second best star wars film ever released in a theater, from a filmmaking perspective.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

I think most people are in agreement that it's top tier. Personally, I think it and Batman Returns are the best live-action bat movies. I think TDK is aging pretty badly, for me, and I think I like Batman 89 better, placing TDK at a strict fourth place.

I rewatched TDK and it was still....good. But I had to admit to myself that Batman is the worst part of his own movie and that's kind of a big problem for a Batman film. Even in terms of portrayal, I think Bale gets upstaged by most of the main cast.

Plus the messaging in that movie is sort of problematic. It's low key pro-Big Brother lol and doesn't really ever address the age old question of "Batman could probably fix more crime by using his billions of dollars to invest in public infrastructure rather than putting on a batsuit and beating up low-level criminals"

I'm also in the camp of thinking Ben Affleck is similar to Andrew Garfield in that if he were in better movies, most people would probably see him as their definitive Batman

Godfather 3 > 2. Although 2 wasnt bad or anything, it just doesnt stick with me nearly as much as 1 and 3.

Cloud Atlas is an amazing work of art. Easily the Wachowskis masterpiece.

Watchmen is the best movie based on a comic book ever made and its not even close.
While on the subject of Zack Snyder films, I really hope he will write/direct a movie adaptation of Injustice (as a sequel to Dawn Of Justice and Justice League).

Return of the Jedi: the song Jedi Rocks was alright and nothing to get upset about. Yub Nub however flat out sucks.

Although the generally unpopular combination of sci-fi/horror/action is a guilty pleasure of mine, I hate the movie Aliens. Mostly because of Newt. I hate little children in survival horror, usually because their helplessness results in all the cool and useful characters getting killed. The fact that Newt screams all the time makes it even worse.

There's no such thing as a movie being so bad that it's funny. You either like it, you don't, or you just don't care for it all that much.
People laughing at how 'bad' movies are either just enjoy it (because something doesn't have to be intelligent high-level genius quality to be good enough to watch and enjoy), or they never got out of that teenage phase where they force themselves to laugh overly loud at everything they think they're supposed to laugh at, even when there's nothing lolworthy about it.
The latter are usually the same people who think a movie is either the best or worst thing ever before even having seen it.

The Batman was much better than Dark Knight
Rambo III is the best one in the series
Hateful 8 is one of Tarantino's best movies and Inglorious Basterds was one of the worst
Hannibal was better than Silence of the Lambs (the Hannibal book was even better)
Star Wars A New Hope is far and away the best SW movie

Ooooh, I just thought of something.

For the most part, Studio Ghibli films rely upon cheap deus ex machinas for their endings.

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Yeaaaaaa the movie wasn't endorsing that future my guy.

Mandy was not good

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Plus the messaging in that movie is sort of problematic. It's low key pro-Big Brother lol and doesn't really ever address the age old question of "Batman could probably fix more crime by using his billions of dollars to invest in public infrastructure rather than putting on a batsuit and beating up low-level criminals"

Yeah, ideologically speaking, it doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. It's incredibly juvenile. Not that The Batman is a model of political maturity, but in my opinion, it's a much better well made movie overall, and far less self-important and ultimately more character-based, so it just sells itself better.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Yeah, ideologically speaking, it doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. It's incredibly juvenile. Not that The Batman is a model of political maturity, but in my opinion, it's a much better well made movie overall, and far less self-important and ultimately more character-based, so it just sells itself better.

I like that several people in The Batman at very least call out Bruce Wayne specifically on his privilege.

And basically acknowledged that up until the end, Bruce was just a broken kid with a vengeance fetish. He wasn't trying to represent "order" in a chaotic world or some shit like that.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Yeah, ideologically speaking, it doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. It's incredibly juvenile. Not that The Batman is a model of political maturity, but in my opinion, it's a much better well made movie overall, and far less self-important and ultimately more character-based, so it just sells itself better.

I like the batman better but your takes on the dark knight are incorrect.

The movie doesn't try to say batman is perfect or morally right for what he is doing. He lies, he steals, and he ultimately is forced to kill to save people, but it isn't even him who stops the jokers plan, its the will of the very people joker was terrorizing.

Batmans point in that movie is that he does the morally culpable things so no one else has to, and he takes with that the fallout of those decisions, both in his personal life and in his persona. This is the entire point of the monologue at the end of the film and why it's titled the way it is. Hes not a moral upright stalwart beacon of goodness like dent was trying to be, hes the guy in the dark that will do whatever is necessary to save as many as he can.

That he can solve some crime with his money is irrelevant in this film as joker doesn't care about money, can't be bought, can't be bribed. He is an agent of chaos and some men just want to watch the world burn.

boxoto posted...

oh yea, the Jim Caviezel The Count of Monte Cristo adaptation was totally shit, and super generic, but speaking to some people, this is apparently a hot take, and I don't get it at all.

I love that adaptation. It obviously couldnt do all the twists and turns of the book in an hour and a half (or even three hours), and basically every change they made, U thought it made the central revenge plot better.