Current Events > People are getting DQ'd from Pokemon Worlds for hacked pokemon

Topic List
Page List: 1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
CM_Ponch
08/12/23 8:52:50 PM
#451:


Fenrir_Howls posted...
Sure they did.
Alright, don't go crying when you fail the legality check then.

RuneterranSnap posted...
So you're OK with one arbitrary shortcut but not another.
Someone investing their time into helping someone else under the confines of the rules is not the same as generating a pokemon out of thin air via 3rd party. But please do continue speaking on this subject when you didn't even know about how far the in game accessibility has changed.

---
SW-8316-3213-4720
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
08/12/23 8:52:59 PM
#452:


Baha05 posted...
Outside those that don't gen who lose now
Those people aren't losing because they don't gen.

So what does it matter?

---
We ain't free/We're just spilling blood in the streets.
... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8
08/12/23 8:53:50 PM
#453:


CM_Ponch posted...
Someone investing their time into helping someone else under the confines of the rules is not the same as generating a pokemon out of thin air via 3rd party.
There's effectively no difference from the person receiving the mons. One is on the backs of a fanbase, one is on a few clicks of a mouse, both to a same end.

---
Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) | THE Ohio State:11-1 | Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 8:56:00 PM
#454:


ai123 posted...
Those people aren't losing because they don't gen.

So what does it matter?
They would be basically getting phased out because you allow legal genning means there would be no need to bother with a lot of what makes competitive teams via playing the games.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
ProfessorKukui
08/12/23 8:58:55 PM
#455:


Unknown5uspect posted...
That's what I said you doof. Do you not understand English or what
Get your panties outta your ass.
Congrats m8, you got Baha'd.

---
he's #b#reaking all the rules
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:01:31 PM
#456:


Baha05 posted...
Outside the training and breeding, ad just playing the game in general but I guess that does matter.
Battling is the actual game. Competitive is solely about battling.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:03:08 PM
#457:


RuneterranSnap posted...
Battling is the actual game. Competitive is solely about battling.
Which includes all aspects if battling which means training is also involved.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:03:18 PM
#458:


Baha05 posted...
They would be basically getting phased out because you allow legal genning means there would be no need to bother with a lot of what makes competitive teams via playing the games.
No need unless you enjoy it and prefer traditional. No reason you can't do it.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11
08/12/23 9:03:20 PM
#459:


Ironically most competitive players dont really care about genning or hacking as long as the pokemon is legit. VGC, smogon players all view it as a necessary evil.

The people that dont like it are the ones that are casual fans, those who dont play competitively at all and verlisify stans.

There needs to be a way for gamefreak to simplify acquiring everything short of just creating a pokegen simulator in the actual game. A team should be built in less than 5 minutes once you have decided on it.

---
I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion.
-LTG
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:03:44 PM
#460:


Baha05 posted...
Which includes all aspects if battling which means training is also involved.
Nope it isn't involved in the competitive scene at all.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:05:06 PM
#461:


If you want to claim competitive is involved in battling you'll need to show there's some technique in training that makes a difference. But there isn't. It's the same rote, monotonous process for literally every single pokemon no matter it's type, role, moveset, or whatever.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:05:07 PM
#462:


RuneterranSnap posted...
No need unless you enjoy it and prefer traditional. No reason you can't do it.
Outside the need to not bother to do it. Likewise the genners can do that too outside official means.

LightningAce11 posted...
Ironically most competitive players dont really care about genning or hacking as long as the pokemon is legit. VGC, smogon players all view it as a necessary evil.

The people that dont like it are the ones that are casual fans, those who dont play competitively at all and verlisify stans.

There needs to be a way for gamefreak to simplify acquiring everything short of just creating a pokegen simulator in the actual game. A team should be built in less than 5 minutes once you have decided on it.

Not going to happen because of the Meta

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
08/12/23 9:05:43 PM
#463:


Baha05 posted...
They would be basically getting phased out because you allow legal genning means there would be no need to bother with a lot of what makes competitive teams via playing the games.
But if you enjoyed it, you would bother, wouldn't you?

Seems an ideal solution to me. You can actually choose what to do based on what you enjoy.

---
We ain't free/We're just spilling blood in the streets.
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:06:24 PM
#464:


Baha05 posted...
Outside the need to not bother to do it. Likewise the genners can do that too outside official means.
"There's no need to do it that way" isn't a reason not to do it that way.

Especially if you enjoy it.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrir_Howls
08/12/23 9:06:39 PM
#465:


CM_Ponch posted...

Alright, don't go crying when you fail the legality check then.



Never mentioned genning though.

What's more this thread can't even seem to come to a consensus as to what "work" entails. Note there have been times with these games when you can EV train and level up without any kind of effort due to QoL features.

---
Loki's Good Boy
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:06:56 PM
#466:


ai123 posted...
But if you enjoyed it, you would bother, wouldn't you?

Seems an ideal solution to me. You can actually choose what to do based on what you enjoy.
I would until it came to the point that the enjoyment got ruined because the amount if work I do is outdone by the amount others dont.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
08/12/23 9:06:58 PM
#467:


Baha05 posted...
Outside the need to not bother to do it. Likewise the genners can do that too outside official means.

Not going to happen because of the Meta
If I can legally gen a team in 5 minutes, I have no problem keeping up with the meta.

---
We ain't free/We're just spilling blood in the streets.
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:07:15 PM
#468:


Essentially the people against genning are arguing you should have to press a button 500 times for a pokemon to be legal because....reasons.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:07:48 PM
#469:


Baha05 posted...
I would until it came to the point that the enjoyment got ruined because the amount if work I do is outdone by the amount others dont.
That's a you problem.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave
08/12/23 9:07:48 PM
#470:


I will say this, Nintendo needs to do a better job at blocking trades and such from genned Pokemon. You shouldn't be able to trade a Pokemon with somebody only to later find out it's unable to pass the forgery test.

---
The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:07:57 PM
#471:


ai123 posted...
If I can legally gen a team in 5 minutes, I have no problem keeping up with the meta.
Until the meta shifts again to counter that team.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:08:29 PM
#472:


Enclave posted...
I will say this, Nintendo needs to do a better job at blocking trades and such from genned Pokemon. You shouldn't be able to trade a Pokemon with somebody only to later find out it's able to pass the forgery test.
Lol no they don't

They need to remove restrictions against gunned but otherwise legal pokemon.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:08:44 PM
#473:


RuneterranSnap posted...
That's a you problem.
Its an anyone problem if they are getting phased out in favor of allowing people to edit data of games via third party software

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:09:02 PM
#474:


Baha05 posted...
Until the meta shifts again to counter that team.
You mean until the meta works like every meta in every healthy competitive game works?

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:09:42 PM
#475:


RuneterranSnap posted...
You mean until the meta works like every meta in every healthy competitive game works?
A healthy meta doesnt shift that fast.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
08/12/23 9:09:51 PM
#476:


Baha05 posted...
I would until it came to the point that the enjoyment got ruined because the amount if work I do is outdone by the amount others dont.
I don't know why you are so bothered about what other people do, and how it affects your own enjoyment.

Just let everyone enjoy the game in the way that suits them. I won't force you to gen; why force me to grind?

---
We ain't free/We're just spilling blood in the streets.
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:10:25 PM
#477:


Baha05 posted...
Its an anyone problem if they are getting phased out in favor of allowing people to edit data of games via third party software
Nope just a you problem.

You're arguing everyone should do it one way because YOU want to do it that way even though there are objectively better ways to do it and you could still do it your way with zero issue.

You are the worst kind of competitive person and nobody should cater to you.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:10:36 PM
#478:


ai123 posted...
I don't know why you are so bothered about what other people do, and how it affects your own enjoyment.

Just let everyone enjoy the game in the way that suits them. I won't force you to gen; why force me to grind?
Because you are arguing that in favor of official tournaments where money in involved. Not fucking hard to understand.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrir_Howls
08/12/23 9:10:55 PM
#479:


Baha05 posted...

I would until it came to the point that the enjoyment got ruined because the amount if work I do is outdone by the amount others dont.


Thought that was fine as long as it's legit though?

---
Loki's Good Boy
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:11:22 PM
#480:


Baha05 posted...
A healthy meta doesnt shift that fast.
Yes it does.

I mean ffs, WITH RULES AS IS pokemon meta shifts on a weekly basis.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:11:23 PM
#481:


Fenrir_Howls posted...
Thought that was fine as long as it's legit though?
Not in an official level tournament

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
08/12/23 9:12:13 PM
#482:


Baha05 posted...
A healthy meta doesnt shift that fast.
That's down to the frequent new formats.

A healthy meta changes a lot at first and then settles down. TPCi don't always give it time to let that happen.

---
We ain't free/We're just spilling blood in the streets.
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:12:22 PM
#483:


Baha05 posted...
Because you are arguing that in favor of official tournaments where money in involved. Not fucking hard to understand.
Yes, so it should be as explicitly about the actual competition as possible. So no extraneous requirements.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
#484
Post #484 was unavailable or deleted.
Baha05
08/12/23 9:13:10 PM
#485:


RuneterranSnap posted...
Yes, so it should be as explicitly about the actual competition as possible. So no extraneous requirements.
Then just fuck it allow third party alters to all games ever then I guess.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:13:38 PM
#486:


Also, Smogon had a very healthy meta(is it still active?).

Pokemon University has a very healthy one and is basically used as a companion for S/V competitive.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:14:10 PM
#487:


Baha05 posted...
Then just fuck it allow third party alters to all games ever then I guess.
Not really many other games this would apply to.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrir_Howls
08/12/23 9:14:30 PM
#488:


Baha05 posted...

Not in an official level tournament

So you're not okay with anything if it impacts your level of enjoyment?

---
Loki's Good Boy
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:15:26 PM
#489:


Fenrir_Howls posted...
So you're not okay with anything if it impacts your level of enjoyment?
He literally wants people to stick with an extremely unpopular format because he personally likes it even though he could still do his method if genning was allowed.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:15:53 PM
#490:


Fenrir_Howls posted...
So you're not okay with anything if it impacts your level of enjoyment?
I am not ok with the thought that people should want third party edits to happen on an official level tournament where money in involved. Because at that point there is a monetary prize involved.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
08/12/23 9:16:20 PM
#491:


Baha05 posted...
Because you are arguing that in favor of official tournaments where money in involved. Not fucking hard to understand.
What does this have to do with anything? Get your Pokmon the way that suits you and bring it to a tournament. No one has any advantage.

---
We ain't free/We're just spilling blood in the streets.
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:17:01 PM
#492:


Baha05 posted...
I am not ok with the thought that people should want third party edits to happen on an official level tournament where money in involved. Because at that point there is a monetary prize involved.
Except these third party edits literally only serve to make entry more accessible and less time consuming and don't give anyone a competitive edge.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:17:14 PM
#493:


ai123 posted...
What does this have to do with anything? Get your Pokmon the way that suits you and bring it to a tournament. No one has any advantage.
It has everything to do with the rules in place and why they would never bother with allowing them in an official level.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrir_Howls
08/12/23 9:17:22 PM
#494:


Baha05 posted...

I am not ok with the thought that people should want third party edits to happen on an official level tournament where money in involved. Because at that point there is a monetary prize involved.

Baha05 posted...

I would until it came to the point that the enjoyment got ruined because the amount if work I do is outdone by the amount others dont.

Fenrir_Howls posted...


Thought that was fine as long as it's legit though?

---
Loki's Good Boy
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:17:38 PM
#495:


Also tons of tournaments allow various third party programs such as timers or UI updates.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05
08/12/23 9:18:05 PM
#496:


Whatever Im done with this topic since its closing soon.

---
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:18:06 PM
#497:


Baha05 posted...
It has everything to do with the rules in place and why they would never bother with allowing them in an official level.
"The rules are good because they are the rules"

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
08/12/23 9:18:50 PM
#498:


Baha05 posted...
It has everything to do with the rules in place and why they would never bother with allowing them in an official level.
I'm arguing that there should be official in-game genning, though.

What's wrong with that?

---
We ain't free/We're just spilling blood in the streets.
... Copied to Clipboard!
#499
Post #499 was unavailable or deleted.
RuneterranSnap
08/12/23 9:19:00 PM
#500:


Baha05 posted...
Whatever Im done with this topic since its closing soon.
Because you lost.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10