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cjsdowg 08/02/23 8:47:51 PM #100:	Torgo posted... Try Drew P. Bawls and see if you get the job. They would think I am elderly then and I they race discrimination too. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:975218525] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>Try Drew P. Bawls and see if you get the job.</quote>They would think I am elderly then and I they race discrimination too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 08/02/23 8:48:37 PM #101:	famfam posted... a country where ~40-50% of the country votes republican is closed-minded and bigoted? big shocker --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:975218541] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>famfam posted... </cite><quote>a country where ~40-50% of the country votes republican is closed-minded and bigoted? big shocker</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 08/02/23 8:50:12 PM #102:	Torgo posted... Try Drew P. Bawls and see if you get the job. --- [click here] (She/Her) <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:975218562] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>Try Drew P. Bawls and see if you get the job.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 08/02/23 8:54:32 PM #103:	Study says they compared they/them pronouns to no pronouns with a gender neutral name. They didnt include a she/her option or a he/him which is a shame. Id be interested to see how they/them compares to she/her. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:975218658] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Study says they compared they/them pronouns to no pronouns with a gender neutral name. They didnt include a she/her option or a he/him which is a shame. Id be interested to see how they/them compares to she/her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 08/02/23 8:55:50 PM #104:	CruelBuffalo posted... Why would anyone put their pronouns on their resume? I feel like maybe if you had really pondered this one for a few seconds you could have come up with a reason. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:975218687] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted... </cite><quote>Why would anyone put their pronouns on their resume?</quote>I feel like maybe if you had really pondered this one for a few seconds you could have come up with a reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Atralis 08/02/23 9:06:15 PM #105:	I'd imagine it depends heavily on the job being applied for. <cite>Atralis posted [p:975218881] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote> I'd imagine it depends heavily on the job being applied for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Angel_ 08/02/23 9:10:14 PM #106:	HornyLevel posted... I remember this when it came out a few months ago. There was a long Reddit thread with tons of hiring managers/HR that were chiming in and the general consensus was that there was too much risk and liability involved, so many just chucked those resumes. Even if they had no issues with trans/NB. this is what I figured might be it --- Nostalgia, how I remember things. Remember crowns, remember kings. <cite>_Angel_ posted [p:975218974] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>HornyLevel posted... </cite><quote>I remember this when it came out a few months ago. There was a long Reddit thread with tons of hiring managers/HR that were chiming in and the general consensus was that there was too much risk and liability involved, so many just chucked those resumes. Even if they had no issues with trans/NB.</quote>this is what I figured might be it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Atralis 08/02/23 9:11:43 PM #107:	bfslick50 posted... Study says they compared they/them pronouns to no pronouns with a gender neutral name. They didnt include a she/her option or a he/him which is a shame. Id be interested to see how they/them compares to she/her. I think that using pronouns at all is still seen as a political statement on a resume. If you see someone named Karen listing their pronouns as "she/her" you can assume they are fairly progressive. <cite>Atralis posted [p:975219007] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>Study says they compared they/them pronouns to no pronouns with a gender neutral name. They didnt include a she/her option or a he/him which is a shame. Id be interested to see how they/them compares to she/her.</quote> I think that using pronouns at all is still seen as a political statement on a resume. If you see someone named Karen listing their pronouns as "she/her" you can assume they are fairly progressive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KainFourteh 08/02/23 9:14:27 PM #108:	SHOCKING Shut up. --- Dokkan: 671740638 <cite>KainFourteh posted [p:975219053] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>SHOCKINGShut up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 08/02/23 9:33:48 PM #109:	I think you mean applications not resumes. --- I'm just a girl who loves games <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:975219387] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>I think you mean applications not resumes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zado19 08/02/23 9:39:44 PM #110:	So what if i feel this way bu dont act on it? is it still wrong <cite>zado19 posted [p:975219506] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>So what if i feel this way bu dont act on it? is it still wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/02/23 9:45:38 PM #111:	zado19 posted... So what if i feel this way bu dont act on it? is it still wrong Feel what way? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:975219607] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>zado19 posted... </cite><quote>So what if i feel this way bu dont act on it? is it still wrong</quote>Feel what way? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/02/23 9:47:20 PM #112:	implement some sort of double-bind system, and this goes away. This is all a hiring manager needs to see: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/6/AAEhCpAAEt_w.jpg Everything else can wait until the interview. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975219634] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>implement some sort of double-bind system, and this goes away.This is all a hiring manager needs to see:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/6/AAEhCpAAEt_w.jpg Everything else can wait until the interview.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 08/02/23 9:52:34 PM #113:	wait, why are people putting pronouns on their resum in the first place? You are applying for a job. smh <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:975219735] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>wait, why are people putting pronouns on their resum in the first place? You are applying for a job. smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 08/02/23 9:53:39 PM #114:	Naysaspace posted... wait, why are people putting pronouns on their resum in the first place? You are applying for a job. smh Do you stop having pronouns when you get a job? --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:975219757] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Naysaspace posted... </cite><quote>wait, why are people putting pronouns on their resum in the first place? You are applying for a job. smh</quote>Do you stop having pronouns when you get a job? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Imit8m3 08/02/23 10:01:50 PM #116:	Water is wet!? I had no idea... --- I got asthma bruh. I can't be chasing these hoes. <cite>Imit8m3 posted [p:975219906] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Water is wet!?I had no idea... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 08/02/23 10:04:40 PM #117:	Imit8m3 posted... Water is wet!? I had no idea... huh? --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:975219966] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Imit8m3 posted... </cite><quote>Water is wet!?I had no idea...</quote>huh? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSMajinVegeta2 08/02/23 10:20:05 PM #118:	Not surprising how many bigots are in positions of power who think a simple pronoun is going to disrupt the work place --- On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer. Satoru Iwata, 1959 - 2015 RIP GP God bless <cite>SSMajinVegeta2 posted [p:975220227] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Not surprising how many bigots are in positions of power who think a simple pronoun is going to disrupt the work place </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 08/02/23 11:01:06 PM #119:	famfam posted... a country where ~40-50% of the country votes republican is closed-minded and bigoted? big shocker No. 30% of this country votes Republican. The problem is the people sitting on their ass doing nothing. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:975220876] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>famfam posted... </cite><quote>a country where ~40-50% of the country votes republican is closed-minded and bigoted? big shocker</quote>No. 30% of this country votes Republican.The problem is the people sitting on their ass doing nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 08/02/23 11:03:13 PM #120:	famfam posted... a country where ~40-50% of the country votes republican is closed-minded and bigoted? big shocker --- Eat the rich Destroy the GOP <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:975220901] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>famfam posted... </cite><quote>a country where ~40-50% of the country votes republican is closed-minded and bigoted? big shocker</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 08/02/23 11:36:03 PM #121:	FunWithAFryPan posted... I feel like maybe if you had really pondered this one for a few seconds you could have come up with a reason. But you really have no reason to put such information on your resume. That info is for the application. Your resume is only meant to contain your work and education history along with some skills and your basic contact information (name, phone, and email). Your race, ethnicity, gender, and sexuality are entirely irrelevant on a resume as neither have anything to do with first impressions job-wise. An employer is looking for your skills to see if you're a good fit, your gender doesn't matter. In fact, it has always been advised NOT to put any identifying info like that on your resume precisely due to discrimination. That includes your address to because address discrimination is also a thing. Only during a face-to-face interview may the hiring manager accidentally misgender you and at that point, it's not a big deal to correct them. They may even ask in advance. The absolute worst they can do is wrongly say Mr. or Ms. <cite>VFalcone posted [p:975221330] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>I feel like maybe if you had really pondered this one for a few seconds you could have come up with a reason.</quote>But you really have no reason to put such information on your resume. That info is for the application. Your resume is only meant to contain your work and education history along with some skills and your basic contact information (name, phone, and email).Your race, ethnicity, gender, and sexuality are entirely irrelevant on a resume as neither have anything to do with first impressions job-wise. An employer is looking for your skills to see if you're a good fit, your gender doesn't matter. In fact, it has always been advised NOT to put any identifying info like that on your resume precisely due to discrimination. That includes your address to because address discrimination is also a thing.Only during a face-to-face interview may the hiring manager accidentally misgender you and at that point, it's not a big deal to correct them. They may even ask in advance. The absolute worst they can do is wrongly say Mr. or Ms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zado19 08/03/23 7:02:09 AM #122:	StealThisSheen posted... Feel what way? That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk? <cite>zado19 posted [p:975224855] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>Feel what way?</quote>That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 08/03/23 7:24:33 AM #123:	zado19 posted... That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk? You deal with it literally the same way you deal with anyone: You refer to them the way they ask and just don't be a dick. If you can do this for the 99.5% of non trans people, you can do it for the remaining .5% --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:975225034] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>zado19 posted... </cite><quote>That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk?</quote>You deal with it literally the same way you deal with anyone: You refer to them the way they ask and just don't be a dick. If you can do this for the 99.5% of non trans people, you can do it for the remaining .5% </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tora_Sami 08/03/23 7:36:15 AM #124:	Euripides posted... No, it's an important identifier. Have you ever received a resume from a Taylor or Alex and not known if it was a man or a woman? Wouldn't a pronoun help there? Gender shouldn't matter in the first place. --- Asus E-gaming z490 \| 10700k \| DDR4 32gb 3200mhz \| Asus TUF 3080ti \| 1000 watt \| Corsair H100i 240 \| G7 Odyssey 32" \| Orion Spark \| Proteus Core <cite>Tora_Sami posted [p:975225141] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>No, it's an important identifier. Have you ever received a resume from a Taylor or Alex and not known if it was a man or a woman? Wouldn't a pronoun help there?</quote>Gender shouldn't matter in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zado19 08/03/23 8:07:59 AM #125:	reincarnator07 posted... You deal with it literally the same way you deal with anyone: You refer to them the way they ask and just don't be a dick. If you can do this for the 99.5% of non trans people, you can do it for the remaining .5% No, thats not what I asked <cite>zado19 posted [p:975225482] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>reincarnator07 posted... </cite><quote>You deal with it literally the same way you deal with anyone: You refer to them the way they ask and just don't be a dick. If you can do this for the 99.5% of non trans people, you can do it for the remaining .5%</quote>No, thats not what I asked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 08/03/23 8:09:09 AM #126:	Tora_Sami posted... Gender shouldn't matter in the first place. For some jobs, that is true. I work in an industry where it does. --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:975225490] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Tora_Sami posted... </cite><quote>Gender shouldn't matter in the first place.</quote>For some jobs, that is true. I work in an industry where it does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 08/03/23 8:28:52 AM #127:	NoxObscuras posted... That's so much BS. Liability how? (This is rhetorical, not expecting you to have the answer) It literally changes nothing about their ability to do their jobs. As mentioned repeatedly in the topic when people cite hiring managers and the like, it is viewed by them as inviting "drama" with HR and litigation. Even if it is wrong, hiring managers and potential employees are both human(to say nothing of the AI that filters out applicants for larger companies) so your best choice when applying to a job is to account for that, even if morally you shouldn't have to do so. In this case it means putting pronouns on a resume might cost you a potential job if the hiring manager sees it as taking on "unnecessary risk". So with a resume the core is to show your experience, show your dedication, show flexibility, all with the goal of getting an in-person interview. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:975225706] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>That's so much BS. Liability how? (This is rhetorical, not expecting you to have the answer) It literally changes nothing about their ability to do their jobs.</quote>As mentioned repeatedly in the topic when people cite hiring managers and the like, it is viewed by them as inviting "drama" with HR and litigation. Even if it is wrong, hiring managers and potential employees are both human(to say nothing of the AI that filters out applicants for larger companies) so your best choice when applying to a job is to account for that, even if morally you shouldn't have to do so. In this case it means putting pronouns on a resume might cost you a potential job if the hiring manager sees it as taking on "unnecessary risk".So with a resume the core is to show your experience, show your dedication, show flexibility, all with the goal of getting an in-person interview. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/03/23 8:43:35 AM #128:	zado19 posted... That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk? Pronouns are not some trans thing. It's something that is basic language. Pronoun hate is the dumbest thing ever. It's hard to talk without using pronouns. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:975225894] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>zado19 posted... </cite><quote>That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk?</quote>Pronouns are not some trans thing. It's something that is basic language. Pronoun hate is the dumbest thing ever. It's hard to talk without using pronouns. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 08/03/23 8:45:40 AM #129:	zado19 posted... That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk? Well that's a well deserved ban. --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:975225917] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>zado19 posted... </cite><quote>That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk?</quote>Well that's a well deserved ban. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lobinde 08/03/23 8:49:38 AM #130:	zado19 posted... That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk? I'm tired of chuds and their nonsense but you don't see me crying about it. <cite>Lobinde posted [p:975225963] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>zado19 posted... </cite><quote>That all this pronoun stuff is nonsense and I'm tired of dealing with these Trans folk?</quote>I'm tired of chuds and their nonsense but you don't see me crying about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/03/23 9:06:21 AM #131:	RuneterranSnap posted... Well that's a well deserved ban. Didn't even have to bait it, dude just came out swinging on a stolen account. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:975226187] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>Well that's a well deserved ban.</quote>Didn't even have to bait it, dude just came out swinging on a stolen account. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/03/23 9:09:17 AM #132:	People put that on their resume? <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:975226232] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>People put that on their resume?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 08/03/23 9:12:18 AM #133:	RuneterranSnap posted... Well that's a well deserved ban. I'm guessing a purg at worst --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:975226276] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>Well that's a well deserved ban.</quote>I'm guessing a purg at worst </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 08/03/23 9:34:01 AM #134:	I know some are going to disagree, but I'd argue it's ill advised to give additional unnecessary information on your resume. I'd advise against sharing personal information that has nothing to do with the job. Hiring managers are already going through 10s to 100s of resumes, and looking for every little reason to disqualify a resume. Just give enough information that at least gets you in the door for an interview. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:975226558] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>I know some are going to disagree, but I'd argue it's ill advised to give additional unnecessary information on your resume.I'd advise against sharing personal information that has nothing to do with the job.Hiring managers are already going through 10s to 100s of resumes, and looking for every little reason to disqualify a resume. Just give enough information that at least gets you in the door for an interview. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 08/03/23 2:27:09 PM #135:	asdf8562 posted... I know some are going to disagree, but I'd argue it's ill advised to give additional unnecessary information on your resume. I'd advise against sharing personal information that has nothing to do with the job. Hiring managers are already going through 10s to 100s of resumes, and looking for every little reason to disqualify a resume. Just give enough information that at least gets you in the door for an interview. Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Thats literally the thing the pronoun stands in for. I think you reactionaries have lost the plot. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:975231653] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>asdf8562 posted... </cite><quote>I know some are going to disagree, but I'd argue it's ill advised to give additional unnecessary information on your resume.I'd advise against sharing personal information that has nothing to do with the job.Hiring managers are already going through 10s to 100s of resumes, and looking for every little reason to disqualify a resume. Just give enough information that at least gets you in the door for an interview.</quote>Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Thats literally the thing the pronoun stands in for.I think you reactionaries have lost the plot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 08/03/23 2:33:35 PM #136:	FunWithAFryPan posted... Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. The fuck lol <cite>VFalcone posted [p:975231787] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name.</quote>The fuck lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Thunder 08/03/23 2:35:54 PM #137:	FunWithAFryPan posted... Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Afaik most people are still submitting resumes without pronouns just fine. --- Resident Synthwave enjoyer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SYUwGoheac <cite>Blue_Thunder posted [p:975231826] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted...</cite><quote>Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name.</quote>Afaik most people are still submitting resumes without pronouns just fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/03/23 2:36:22 PM #138:	FunWithAFryPan posted... Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Thats literally the thing the pronoun stands in for. I think you reactionaries have lost the plot. If you omit your pronouns from your resume then someone can still infer them from your name. If that person is wrong then you can correct them, if they haven't already asked. If you omit your name from your resume then you just seem like an idiot and nobody is going to bother reaching out to you at all. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:975231838] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Thats literally the thing the pronoun stands in for.I think you reactionaries have lost the plot.</quote>If you omit your pronouns from your resume then someone can still infer them from your name. If that person is wrong then you can correct them, if they haven't already asked. If you omit your name from your resume then you just seem like an idiot and nobody is going to bother reaching out to you at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 08/03/23 2:39:06 PM #139:	FunWithAFryPan posted... Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Thats literally the thing the pronoun stands in for. I think you reactionaries have lost the plot. Um... What? You're saying a proper noun is just as important as a pronoun. A person's name is not unnecessary because when you actually speak to them you wouldn't actually know their name. You never actually need someone's pronouns. It's never even necessary on the job. This isn't a reactionary thing. If you don't know a person's name, how do you identify who it is? --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975231877] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Thats literally the thing the pronoun stands in for.I think you reactionaries have lost the plot.</quote>Um... What? You're saying a proper noun is just as important as a pronoun. A person's name is not unnecessary because when you actually speak to them you wouldn't actually know their name. You never actually need someone's pronouns. It's never even necessary on the job. This isn't a reactionary thing. If you don't know a person's name, how do you identify who it is? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 08/03/23 4:16:10 PM #140:	Blue_Thunder posted... Afaik most people are still submitting resumes without pronouns just fine. Right, Im not saying people should put their pronouns on their application, Im saying that if someone does, its the nothingnest of nothingburgers and if it bothers you, you have lost your goddamn mind. ArtiRock posted... This isn't a reactionary thing. If you don't know a person's name, how do you identify who it is? Do you know what the grammatical purpose of a pronoun is? It seems like you dont. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:975233639] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Thunder posted... </cite><quote>Afaik most people are still submitting resumes without pronouns just fine.</quote>Right, Im not saying people should put their pronouns on their application, Im saying that if someone does, its the nothingnest of nothingburgers and if it bothers you, you have lost your goddamn mind.ArtiRock posted... </cite><quote>This isn't a reactionary thing. If you don't know a person's name, how do you identify who it is?</quote>Do you know what the grammatical purpose of a pronoun is? It seems like you dont. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 08/03/23 4:19:09 PM #141:	A_Good_Boy posted... If you omit your pronouns from your resume then someone can still infer them from your name. If that person is wrong then you can correct them, if they haven't already asked. You cant always infer pronouns from someones name. This is obvious, and you should probably know this already. If you omit your name from your resume then you just seem like an idiot and nobody is going to bother reaching out to you at all. This doesnt follow. You can contact someone by just knowing a phone number or an email address. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:975233697] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>If you omit your pronouns from your resume then someone can still infer them from your name. If that person is wrong then you can correct them, if they haven't already asked. </quote>You cant always infer pronouns from someones name. This is obvious, and you should probably know this already.<quote>If you omit your name from your resume then you just seem like an idiot and nobody is going to bother reaching out to you at all.</quote>This doesnt follow. You can contact someone by just knowing a phone number or an email address. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/03/23 4:19:53 PM #142:	FunWithAFryPan posted... Do you know what the grammatical purpose of a pronoun is? It seems like you dont. What's its purpose on a resume? I already asked once and nobody seemed to know how they/them pronouns are even supposed to look on a resume in the first place. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:975233713] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>Do you know what the grammatical purpose of a pronoun is? It seems like you dont.</quote>What's its purpose on a resume? I already asked once and nobody seemed to know how they/them pronouns are even supposed to look on a resume in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunWithAFryPan 08/03/23 4:20:51 PM #144:	A_Good_Boy posted... What's its purpose on a resume? I already asked once and nobody seemed to know how they/them pronouns are even supposed to look on a resume in the first place. Its purpose is to indicate how someone wants to be referred to. This isnt rocket science. Its basic communication. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:975233731] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>What's its purpose on a resume? I already asked once and nobody seemed to know how they/them pronouns are even supposed to look on a resume in the first place.</quote>Its purpose is to indicate how someone wants to be referred to. This isnt rocket science. Its basic communication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 08/03/23 4:21:31 PM #145:	For those of us here who do/have hired in the past. Have you ever called someone up and been surprised because you thought it was the opposite gender? You do it long enough and itll happen. And thus you should know that it literally doesnt matter. It cannot matter. It's illegal if it matters. One of those iykyk situations. And if you don't? Well, keep trying to argue in favour of putting pronouns on a resum. Curious where workday or hris software autopopulates the pronouns. <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:975233739] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>For those of us here who do/have hired in the past.Have you ever called someone up and been surprised because you thought it was the opposite gender? You do it long enough and itll happen.And thus you should know that it literally doesnt matter. It cannot matter. It's illegal if it matters. One of those iykyk situations. And if you don't? Well, keep trying to argue in favour of putting pronouns on a resum.Curious where workday or hris software autopopulates the pronouns. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 08/03/23 4:21:40 PM #146:	FunWithAFryPan posted... Its purpose is to indicate how someone wants to be referred to. This is rocket science. Its basic communication. Where is it though? Are you writing out Ashley CoolLastName (they/them) at the top of the resume? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:975233742] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>Its purpose is to indicate how someone wants to be referred to. This is rocket science. Its basic communication.</quote>Where is it though? Are you writing out Ashley CoolLastName (they/them) at the top of the resume? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 08/03/23 4:22:13 PM #147:	FunWithAFryPan posted... Do you know what the grammatical purpose of a pronoun is? It seems like you dont. I'm not Artirock but, you said that not only is a pronoun no more or less as important as a name, but that it's also meant to be a stand-in for a name. Implying that a pronoun can be used instead of a name because they're equally as important which is just... not correct lol. FunWithAFryPan posted... Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Thats literally the thing the pronoun stands in for. I think you reactionaries have lost the plot. Imagine looking at a resume and it just has He/Him on it and a phone number. No name <cite>VFalcone posted [p:975233750] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>Do you know what the grammatical purpose of a pronoun is? It seems like you dont.</quote>I'm not Artirock but, you said that not only is a pronoun no more or less as important as a name, but that it's also meant to be a stand-in for a name. Implying that a pronoun can be used instead of a name because they're equally as important which is just... not correct lol.FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>Is a persons name unnecessary information? I dont see how a pronoun is any more or less necessary than a name. Thats literally the thing the pronoun stands in for.I think you reactionaries have lost the plot.</quote>Imagine looking at a resume and it just has He/Him on it and a phone number. No name</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 08/03/23 4:22:43 PM #148:	A_Good_Boy posted... Where is it though? Are you writing out Ashley CoolLastName (they/them) at the top of the resume? I dont fucking know, what difference does it make? --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:975233763] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>Where is it though? Are you writing out Ashley CoolLastName (they/them) at the top of the resume?</quote>I dont fucking know, what difference does it make? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 08/03/23 4:23:18 PM #149:	It doesn't surprise me, but it is a bummer. --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:975233774] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't surprise me, but it is a bummer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 08/03/23 4:27:03 PM #150:	VFalcone posted... I'm not Artirock but, you said that not only is a pronoun no more or less as important as a name, but that it's also meant to be a stand-in for a name. Implying that a pronoun can be used instead of a name because they're equally as important which is just... not correct lol. Yes, pronouns replace proper nouns in speech. Thats their purpose. Is that confusing for you? Imagine looking at a resume and it just has He/Him on it and a phone number. No name Imagine pissing and shitting your pants because someone put (he/him) on a resume. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:975233842] in SHOCKING s... [t:80526268]...</cite> <quote>VFalcone posted... </cite><quote>I'm not Artirock but, you said that not only is a pronoun no more or less as important as a name, but that it's also meant to be a stand-in for a name. Implying that a pronoun can be used instead of a name because they're equally as important which is just... not correct lol.</quote>Yes, pronouns replace proper nouns in speech. Thats their purpose. Is that confusing for you?<quote>Imagine looking at a resume and it just has He/Him on it and a phone number. No name</quote>Imagine pissing and shitting your pants because someone put (he/him) on a resume. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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