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Tyranthraxus posted...

Obviously he meant civilians not citizens.

Can confirm I did. I thought the cities were more populated at the time.

hyperpowder posted...

Umm Japan attacked the US first

Like I we supposed to feel sympathy? Thats like people making fun of us for Vietnam or Iraq, I mean we kind of deserved it

Japan were so victimized due to the nuke bombings that people actually forget they were the bad guys then. Like, unquestionably so.

And never seem to acknowledge that Japan could have just freaking surrendered well beforehand.

But the high command either couldn't accept the L or were just afraid of being tried for they're war crimes. Likely the latter in my opinion.

America is the only country in history to have dropped atomic bombs as an act of war. Yes, other countries have tested them... and done harm, but it's horrifying. The world changed.

Pretty sure it wasn't that Japan refused to surrender in a vacuum, it was to secure an unconditional surrender and set up Japan as a bulkhead of US influence before the USSR could extract one/invade and establish Japan as bulkhead of Soviet influence. That is to say, the willingness of the Japanese to surrender was not the central issue to the Truman administration, it was whether they could secure Japan as a strategic vassal/ally and what it would cost to do so.

Doe posted...

Pretty sure it wasn't that Japan refused to surrender in a vacuum, it was to secure an unconditional surrender and set up Japan as a bulkhead of US influence before the USSR could extract one/invade and establish Japan as bulkhead of Soviet influence.

Peace talks were sabotaged by American warhawks. The Japanese refused an unconditional surrender and the Americans wouldn't allow the diplomats to negotiate a surrender. It was overall a shit situation all around.

Philomena Cunk sums it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGrLUNpF7H4

History is told by the victors, america is scum for dropping those bombs

Why do Americans always feel so guilty about their bombs lol. Two bombs and Japan starts portraying themselves as victims with no historical awareness.

Ask anyone from ASEAN or China or Korea and we'll always say it was necessary for them to GTFO of the country

UndefeatedGOAT posted...

History is told by the victors, america is scum for dropping those bombs

Oh those poor, defenseless Japanese people who were just minding their own business when the United States ruthlessly declared an unprovoked war on them for no reason!

itcheyness posted...

Oh those poor, defenseless Japanese people who were just minding their own business when the United States ruthlessly declared an unprovoked war on them for no reason!

i maintain that was maybe one of the worst strategic blunders in world history. Absolutely insane

so you go me there

Why would America have settled for anything less then a unconditional surrender? Japan was in no position to negotiate jack shit.

When you're kicking the enemy's shit in all the way onto their door step why bother meeting at the table as equals by that point?

Prismsblade posted...

Why would America have settled for anything less then a unconditional surrender?

To end the war without indiscriminately killing 100,000 people including literal babies.

Tyranthraxus posted...

To end the war without indiscriminately killing 100,000 people including literal babies.

Should the US have immediately surrendered after Pearl Harbor then? To protect lives?

Tyranthraxus posted...

To end the war without indiscriminately killing 100,000 people including literal babies.

In total war those kinds of qualms fall by the wayside.

Protip: don't start a war with the US that you aren't able to win.

There are laws in Western countries where it's illegal and offensive to deny the Holocaust, and everyone respects that.

Japanese people ask that everyone stop acting like the nuclear attacks are a joke out of respect for the victims who died in those atrocities, and everyone on the internet is like "LOL WTF NO."

Why is anti-Asian racism so rampant?

The problem with 9/11 jokes is they never land because everyone forgot

itcheyness posted...

Should the US have immediately surrendered after Pearl Harbor then? To protect lives?

Will my answer get me modded?

ok

first japan absolutely denies its war crimes during world war 2 this is well known

that does not make it ok for us to make jokes about the atomic bomb

and i will say this the bombs where probably necessary but they where 100% an act of evil

and ok for the greater good you do something bad

the ppl who dropped the bomb should still have been put on trial for crimes against humanity and yes i am including the president

if you truly believe its the greater good then you need to be prepared to pay the price for your evil act after all what is sacrificing your self for the greater good

in short japan was evil no argument here and we defeated evil with evil probably had no choice but to do it but it was still evil what we did

AceMos posted...

ok

first japan absolutely denies its war crimes during world war 2 this is well known

that does not make it ok for us to make jokes about the atomic bomb

and i will say this the bombs where probably necessary but they where 100% an act of evil

and ok for the greater good you do something bad

the ppl who dropped the bomb should still have been put on trial for crimes against humanity and yes i am including the president

if you truly believe its the greater good then you need to be prepared to pay the price for your evil act after all what is sacrificing your self for the greater good

in short japan was evil no argument here and we defeated evil with evil probably had no choice but to do it but it was still evil what we did

Ok this is wrong.

Japan does NOT deny the war crimes against the US. I live in Japan and everybody openly says it was a really bad thing and was a mistake on Japans part.

You probably heard Japan denies war crimes somewhere, which is likely referring to stuff involving other countries, land disputes, abuse of comfort women, etc.

Japan as a whole does not even try to defend Pearl Harbor.

_____Cait posted...

Ok this is wrong.

Japan does NOT deny the war crimes against the US. I live in Japan and everybody openly says it was a really bad thing and was a mistake on Japans part.

You probably heard Japan denies war crimes somewhere, which is likely referring to stuff involving other countries, land disputes, abuse of comfort women, etc.

Japan as a whole does not even try to defend Pearl Harbor.

yes stuff like comfort woman are war crimes

those women where RAPED

Tyranthraxus posted...

To end the war without indiscriminately killing 100,000 people including literal babies.

Unit 731 killed more women, pregnant women, children and children born from their own rape than what both nukes did, but hey, lets pretend that never happened and go crazy about the nukes instead!

Tyranthraxus posted...

They're offended that people are making jokes about the atomic bomb. It's a very serious matter for them.

So to demonstrate this, they tried to make jokes out of 9/11 but we just took it as inspiration to make even more jokes about 9/11.

Now the twin towers are being nuked by a pink godzilla and nobody knows what the fuck is going on anymore or why

Yeah, I definitely can understand Japan's reaction, but......

It's clear that making 9/11 joke at this point is the wrong response lol

They probably thought Americans would be offended by the joke, but they are unaware of the different views between them and the Americans. Japanese still treat the nuclear bombing as a very important historical event that must be respected and remembered, while Americans basically have let the 9/11 memories go a long time ago.

AceMos posted...

yes stuff like comfort woman are war crimes

those women where RAPED

Uh yeah.

But you were talking about relations between the US and Japan. The bombings of PH. They dont deny that.

_____Cait posted...

Uh yeah.

But you were talking about relations between the US and Japan. The bombings of PH. They dont deny that.

no i was talking about war crimes which their "comfort woman" (aka sex slaves) very much where

i was speaking in general japan denies its war crimes

Twinklestar posted...

Yeah, I definitely can understand Japan's reaction, but......

It's clear that making 9/11 joke at this point is the wrong response lol

They probably thought Americans would be offended by the joke, but they are unaware of the different views between them and the Americans. Japanese still treat the nuclear bombing as a very important historical event that must be respected and remembered, while Americans basically have let the 9/11 memories go a long time ago.

I mean in contrast, the bombings in Japan were pretty much the end of Japanese culture. They are pretty much controlled by other countries now, even if it isnt official. USA basically wrote a new constitution for them and put a ton of barriers of ehat they can and cant do.

9/11 was bad but America didnt get taken over and we didnt lose our identity. Any problems we had after 9/11 were from our own doing.

AceMos posted...

no i was talking about war crimes which their "comfort woman" (aka sex slaves) very much where

i was speaking in general japan denies its war crimes

The person you quoted is right that Japan doesn't deny it's war crimes against the US, but they absolutely deny or don't publicaly admit their other war crimes to the other East/South East Asian countries. I have Grandpa's from Vietnam and the other from the Philipines who were old enough to know what was like to be occupied by the Japanese... and man I would never ask about their opinion of the Japanese because all you would hear is a lot of racism in their native language lol.

_____Cait posted...

I mean in contrast, the bombings in Japan were pretty much the end of Japanese culture.

the fuck

UnholyMudcrab posted...

the fuck

That is some sigworthy shit lmao

Dakimakura posted...

Don't make Japan citizens hate Americans. I need to meet my wife from there.

Got news for you fella. You're going to die a virgin.

AceMos posted...

yes stuff like comfort woman are war crimes

those women where RAPED

US soldier rape everywhere they go. Yet US soldiers are glorified here as heroes.

wannabepranksta posted...

US soldier rape everywhere they go. Yet US soldiers are glorified here as heroes.

uhhh if you think this is a gotcha its not fuck the soldiers who rape woman they should be tried for war crimes and the american government should pay restitution for it

TrowaBarton7 posted...

There are laws in Western countries where it's illegal and offensive to deny the Holocaust, and everyone respects that.

Japanese people ask that everyone stop acting like the nuclear attacks are a joke out of respect for the victims who died in those atrocities, and everyone on the internet is like "LOL WTF NO."

Why is anti-Asian racism so rampant?

Japan killed many times more Asians than we did in WW2.

How dare you bomb Japan when all they did was kill 10-20 million people when they tried to conquer the world with their buddies the Nazis.

_____Cait posted...

I mean in contrast, the bombings in Japan were pretty much the end of Japanese culture.

Oh no, they stopped invading and ethnically cleansing other countries because they were stuck in a suicidal death cult created in the 1920s.

I mean, they can try to insult America with 9/11, but I don't think America really cares that much anymore. The thing I find sad about modern America is that if there was a second 9/11 in today's political climate, I don't even think America would even care that much. It would just be a bunch of finger pointing: Republicans blaming Democrats & Democrats blaming Republicans. There is next to no national unity anymore, just a bunch of bickering

Wherethisfeom posted...

Pretty sure he meant American civilian casualties in Vietnam and Iraq. Which is why 911 is such a huge thing even though the numbers are relatively tiny.

Pretty sure the number of civilians killed in 9/11 was far outpaced by the civilians we killed over there during the first month of the "war on terror".

Tyranthraxus posted...

I don't think a million americans have ever been killed in any singular war, civilians or otherwise.

The Civil war says hello!

Tyranthraxus posted...

To end the war without indiscriminately killing 100,000 people including literal babies.

That didn't matter to the Japanese government, who bore the responsibility of protecting their citizens.

So why should it matter to those the Japanese were at war?

Tom_Joad posted...

The Civil war says hello!

Civil War says only about 650k were killed.

TrowaBarton7 posted...

There are laws in Western countries where it's illegal and offensive to deny the Holocaust, and everyone respects that.

Japanese people ask that everyone stop acting like the nuclear attacks are a joke out of respect for the victims who died in those atrocities, and everyone on the internet is like "LOL WTF NO."

Why is anti-Asian racism so rampant?

I want to point out there is a vast gulf in wrongness between denying an event happened and making jokes out of it. Holocaust denial actively enables nazism and fascism. A joke about it is offensive at worst(unless the joke is designed to be pro nazi or something)

Americans to Japanese making 9/11 jokes

https://youtu.be/H3o6Magi8P4

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The people in Japan today by large have nothing to do with the crimes of their ancestors but they still have to deal with the consequences of the atomic bomb. It makes sense that they're upset. And the denial of warcrimes is only an official government position. I don't think the average citizen believes Japan was innocent in the 1940s.

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Tbh it's more so Americans with this mind set then them usually. At least based on what I usually see in said regard.

Most are whom know nothing of the war outside of pearl harbor, the holocaust, and the nuclear bomb drops. Because that's all they hear about it in mainstream. Bonus points when they bring up rules of war that didn't exist then. And even if they did would be thrown out in a serious war.

Dakimakura posted...

Don't make Japan citizens hate Americans. I need to meet my wife from there.

We will send Japan something far worse than the A-bombs, we will send them out weebs

DragonClaw01 posted...

We will send Japan something far worse than the A-bombs, we will send them out weebs

Someone post the pic of that Japanese dude in Japan reacting to that fat weeb walking around with a bodypillow

Twinklestar posted...

Yeah, I definitely can understand Japan's reaction, but......

It's clear that making 9/11 joke at this point is the wrong response lol

They probably thought Americans would be offended by the joke, but they are unaware of the different views between them and the Americans. Japanese still treat the nuclear bombing as a very important historical event that must be respected and remembered, while Americans basically have let the 9/11 memories go a long time ago.

In the early 2000s, the Twin Towers that was featured in popular culture such as movies and games like Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, Spider-Man, Super Mario Bros, etc had them edited or removed. Later on, the Twin Towers was featured such as in Transformers: Rise of the Beasts.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_in_popular_culture
https://www.newsweek.com/transformers-movie-using-911-imagery-promote-trailer-leaves-viewers-stunned-1802015?amp=1