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teddy241
07/08/23 8:22:27 PM
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Stamps just went up 2 cents. Can a player catch a break? Jesus H jones.
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keyblader1985
07/08/23 8:28:29 PM
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Because they know they can.

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jsb0714
07/08/23 8:31:48 PM
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All of a sudden Bidenomics is a big term. It must be that.
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SinisterSlay
07/08/23 8:35:03 PM
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Because for prices to go down we'd have to have slave labor.
Capitalism doesn't actually function unless there's someone at the very bottom. That makes no money at all.

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Judgmenl
07/08/23 8:45:38 PM
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The numbers are randomized at random intervals.

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Muscles
07/08/23 8:46:47 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
Because for prices to go down we'd have to have slave labor.
Capitalism doesn't actually function unless there's someone at the very bottom. That makes no money at all.
They were lower before... we don't need slave labor, just make the corporations cut the price gouging

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SinisterSlay
07/08/23 8:53:18 PM
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Muscles posted...
They were lower before... we don't need slave labor, just make the corporations cut the price gouging
The person at the bottom wants more money to survive. That's minimum wage (ya know, to prevent slavery). When they get more, everything goes up in price in response, and then minimum wage can't afford food again, repeat the cycle, prices go up.

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hungrymike
07/08/23 8:59:28 PM
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Prices have always been going up since the beginning of time. And the government borrowing money printed out of thin air from the fed doesn't help with inflation. Hope you enjoyed your $2000 stimmy money, and if student loan repayment goes through, get ready for even more inflation.
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Ozmose
07/08/23 9:22:23 PM
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hungrymike posted...
Prices have always been going up since the beginning of time. And the government borrowing money printed out of thin air from the fed doesn't help with inflation. Hope you enjoyed your $2000 stimmy money, and if student loan repayment goes through, get ready for even more inflation.
It wasn't always like this. When Nixon put the final nail in the coffin of the gold standard in 1971, that's when everything started to really spiral out of control.

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hungrymike
07/08/23 10:24:07 PM
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Ozmose posted...
It wasn't always like this. When Nixon put the final nail in the coffin of the gold standard in 1971, that's when everything started to really spiral out of control.
For sure. Inflation was way more under control when it was backed by SOMETHING other than unicorn farts.
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Molitheus
07/08/23 11:55:53 PM
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It's all propaganda to ensure that the rich people(billionaires)stay rich. Greed.

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fishy071
07/09/23 1:15:43 AM
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It's because they don't want people to live. They want to kill people. It's more proof that people are evil.

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VampireCoyote
07/09/23 2:55:43 AM
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Greed.

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Metalsonic66
07/09/23 4:17:24 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Greed.


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Rasmoh
07/09/23 6:03:24 AM
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Gotta continue those record profit streaks.

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adjl
07/09/23 12:34:07 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
The person at the bottom wants more money to survive. That's minimum wage (ya know, to prevent slavery). When they get more, everything goes up in price in response, and then minimum wage can't afford food again, repeat the cycle, prices go up.

And yet the people at the top seem to be getting more and more inflation-adjusted purchasing power, while those are the bottom get less and less. I wonder if that's related to prices going up...

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SinisterSlay
07/09/23 1:26:43 PM
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adjl posted...
And yet the people at the top seem to be getting more and more inflation-adjusted purchasing power, while those are the bottom get less and less. I wonder if that's related to prices going up...
It contributes

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ConfusedTorchic
07/09/23 2:19:47 PM
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who the fuck still uses stamps

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BlackScythe0
07/09/23 3:11:03 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
Because for prices to go down we'd have to have slave labor.
Capitalism doesn't actually function unless there's someone at the very bottom. That makes no money at all.

What is sad is there are actually people this ignorant, they think the primary cause of costs is the workers at the lowest levels of society and not rampant corporate greed and exponentially constant increases in profit.
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Yellow
07/09/23 3:15:11 PM
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I can usually lead people away from thinking like that, but they look for walls to run into.

"Our CEOs are greedy, they don't care about you, you are an asset to them"

"Yeah, and fiat currencies"
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Metalsonic66
07/09/23 3:20:57 PM
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
who the fuck still uses stamps
Ur mum lolol

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adjl
07/09/23 5:04:33 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
It contributes

It does more than contribute. If rising prices were actually caused by low-level wage increases, with prices increasing just as much as they needed to cover those increases, you wouldn't see purchasing power at the top go up. It would either stay the same or go down (in the rare case that an executive says "I have enough money, I can take a hit for our workers' well-being and to avoid straining customers too much"). Instead, you get corporations boasting about record profits, then turning around and whining about how inflation means they need to jack up their prices (while also not actually increasing wages in many situations, since minimum wage is still pretty stagnant).

Inflation is an excuse. Yes, it's happening, but the price increases you're seeing and struggling with are a product of corporations knowing that "we have to increase our prices due to inflation" is something the vast majority of people will accept without knowing exactly how much of the increase is legitimate and how much is just seizing the opportunity to rip people off.

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Ferron
07/09/23 6:03:00 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
The person at the bottom wants more money to survive. That's minimum wage (ya know, to prevent slavery). When they get more, everything goes up in price in response, and then minimum wage can't afford food again, repeat the cycle, prices go up.
Bruh like every study done shows that minimum wage going up isn't the reason for this insane inflation, educate yourself and be better.
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SinisterSlay
07/09/23 6:13:07 PM
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Ferron posted...
Bruh like every study done shows that minimum wage going up isn't the reason for this insane inflation, educate yourself and be better.
Educate myself. Uh huh.
It's funny how so many on the internet lack any form of critical thinking skills.
I do wonder how some figured out you have to turn the glass upright to fill it with water.

Want the actual cause of inflation.
People have too much money. That might not make sense to those starving in poverty, but it's basic economics. To much money and too little goods means prices rise.

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Cacciato
07/09/23 6:40:57 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
Educate myself. Uh huh.
It's funny how so many on the internet lack any form of critical thinking skills.
I do wonder how some figured out you have to turn the glass upright to fill it with water.

Want the actual cause of inflation.
People have too much money. That might not make sense to those starving in poverty, but it's basic economics. To much money and too little goods means prices rise.
Its funny you skipped post 22 to respond to this one instead

You sound like everyone else I took Econ 201 with and then all of a sudden thought they were experts in economic issues.
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SinisterSlay
07/09/23 6:46:38 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Its funny you skipped post 22 to respond to this one instead

You sound like everyone else I took Econ 201 with and then all of a sudden thought they were experts in economic issues.
I took several years of it, hated every minute of it. I'm no expert. I never claimed to be.
I've only been saying facts.

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Cacciato
07/09/23 6:56:15 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
I'm no expert.
Yeah, I mean weve established that part.
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SinisterSlay
07/09/23 7:06:02 PM
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You right? You're speaking of yourself?
Not sure why you quoted me though.

But please, if your know so much, educate the masses.

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SinisterSlay
07/09/23 7:07:10 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Yeah, I mean weve established that part.
No one on this forum is an expert. Anyone claiming to be one is bullshitting. So if your standard for discussion is an economics expert. You're on the wrong forum. Go somewhere else.

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Metalsonic66
07/09/23 7:13:45 PM
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BlackScythe0
07/09/23 7:41:14 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
I'm no expert.

That part was obvious.

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DragonClaw01
07/09/23 7:49:09 PM
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It stems from the all the free money given in 2020 & 2021. People were showered in money just for existing and bought all types of useless junk & speculated like crazy (Bitcoin, stonks, homes, pokemon cards you name it). It raised the price level of everything & once a price level is set high, it is unlikely to come down quickly, since that is the new expectation that everyone bases thier pricing on.

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adjl
07/09/23 8:27:12 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
Want the actual cause of inflation.
People have too much money. That might not make sense to those starving in poverty, but it's basic economics. To much money and too little goods means prices rise.

Except that's not what's happening at all. In terms of actual purchasing power, the middle and lower class have been progressively getting poorer than they ever were, with no recent noteworthy increases in purchasing power that can be cited as causing inflation. At no point has a majority of Americans been in the position of having more money than they can spend, which is the phenomenon to which you're referring (surplus money=willing to spend more=companies charge more). The only ones getting richer are those that are already rich, who boast about record profits then in the same breath claim that they need to increase prices to stay solvent in the midst of such rampant inflation.

If you want a specific trigger, a large part of the current wave stems from the petrochem industry realizing that the war in Ukraine and subsequent sanctions on Russia were a good excuse to double gas prices despite there being no commensurate increase in the price of oil. They got away with that because the general public was happy to accept that war is disruptive, that established a new baseline for fuel prices much, much higher than the previous one, and cost increases to everything else trickled down from that because the world is cripplingly dependent on oil. Every other corporation then jacks their prices up further than is actually needed to cover the cost of petrochem executives' greed because "inflation" is enough of an excuse for them to get away with it (not that anyone can really do anything about it because there aren't really alternatives that aren't doing so), and you get a cost of living crisis.

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BlackScythe0
07/09/23 8:28:30 PM
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DragonClaw01 posted...
It stems from the all the free money given in 2020 & 2021. People were showered in money just for existing and bought all types of useless junk & speculated like crazy (Bitcoin, stonks, homes, pokemon cards you name it). It raised the price level of everything & once a price level is set high, it is unlikely to come down quickly, since that is the new expectation that everyone bases thier pricing on.

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DragonClaw01
07/09/23 9:31:25 PM
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adjl posted...
Except that's not what's happening at all. In terms of actual purchasing power, the middle and lower class have been progressively getting poorer than they ever were, with no recent noteworthy increases in purchasing power that can be cited as causing inflation. At no point has a majority of Americans been in the position of having more money than they can spend, which is the phenomenon to which you're referring (surplus money=willing to spend more=companies charge more). The only ones getting richer are those that are already rich, who boast about record profits then in the same breath claim that they need to increase prices to stay solvent in the midst of such rampant inflation.

If you want a specific trigger, a large part of the current wave stems from the petrochem industry realizing that the war in Ukraine and subsequent sanctions on Russia were a good excuse to double gas prices despite there being no commensurate increase in the price of oil. They got away with that because the general public was happy to accept that war is disruptive, that established a new baseline for fuel prices much, much higher than the previous one, and cost increases to everything else trickled down from that because the world is cripplingly dependent on oil. Every other corporation then jacks their prices up further than is actually needed to cover the cost of petrochem executives' greed because "inflation" is enough of an excuse for them to get away with it (not that anyone can really do anything about it because there aren't really alternatives that aren't doing so), and you get a cost of living crisis.
We've had high fuel prices before. While it does hurt the economy and cause inflation, it has never caused inflation to this level. Corporate greed is an ever constant. What isn't constant is a global pandemic that shuts down the whole economy and trillions of dollars in aid to try to support the economy. The inflation started during the recovery. Deny it all you want, but it is beared out by the stats. They called in transitory in Q1 2021, but it obviously stayed.

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Ozmose
07/09/23 9:56:02 PM
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People do have too much money, and it is the cause of the inflation. Where everyone gets hung up is with the word "money". In a fiat currency system like ours Money = Debt. We treat debt as an asset. It doesn't matter if you actually hold any of the value of it or not. There used to be limits on how debt was treated but the last of those got torn down with Dodd-Frank. It removed the barrier between speculative banking and deposit banking. Where it was once illegal for a bank to use customer assets for investment, it has now become the norm.

People think they put their money in the bank and it just sits there. Lol,no. They invest it immediately. That's why when the yield inverts, all of the banks start going tits up. Everyone thinks they're safe because of the FDIC, but that only works to a degree. The last audit of the FDIC revealed they only have enough to cover about 1.6% of total deposits. Probably less since they raised the $250,000 limit on the SVB claims.

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papercup
07/09/23 10:04:08 PM
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DragonClaw01 posted...
It stems from the all the free money given in 2020 & 2021. People were showered in money just for existing and bought all types of useless junk & speculated like crazy (Bitcoin, stonks, homes, pokemon cards you name it). It raised the price level of everything & once a price level is set high, it is unlikely to come down quickly, since that is the new expectation that everyone bases thier pricing on.

Prices are artificially high now because people were given about $1000 3 years ago? That doesn't add up son.

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Cacciato
07/09/23 10:13:13 PM
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papercup posted...
Prices are artificially high now because people were given about $1000 3 years ago? That doesn't add up son.
Right. Id love to see this guy explain the impact of the child tax credit.
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BlackScythe0
07/09/23 10:18:47 PM
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DragonClaw01 posted...
We've had high fuel prices before. While it does hurt the economy and cause inflation, it has never caused inflation to this level. Corporate greed is an ever constant. What isn't constant is a global pandemic that shuts down the whole economy and trillions of dollars in aid to try to support the economy. The inflation started during the recovery. Deny it all you want, but it is beared out by the stats. They called in transitory in Q1 2021, but it obviously stayed.

What makes more sense, people getting 1k and prices going up 2 years later? Or corporate greed making use of an excuse that people who can't look at things logically will gobble up?
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DragonClaw01
07/09/23 10:48:42 PM
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papercup posted...
Prices are artificially high now because people were given about $1000 3 years ago? That doesn't add up son.
You do realize we gave far more than $1,000 a person: generous unemployment benefits, business subsidies, massive grants to NGOs & governments, zero percent interest rates. We spent trillions, about 5 trillion on Covid related measures and that is not even counting the zero percent interest rates as well, which also put a crap ton of money in the system. Our GDP is around 6 trillion and you don't think 5 trillion in spending isn't going to make a difference? How many bridges do you want to buy?

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BlackScythe0
07/09/23 11:05:06 PM
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DragonClaw01 posted...
You do realize we gave far more than $1,000 a person: generous unemployment benefits, business subsidies, massive grants to NGOs & governments, zero percent interest rates. We spent trillions, about 5 trillion on Covid related measures and that is not even counting the zero percent interest rates as well, which also put a crap ton of money in the system. Our GDP is around 6 trillion and you don't think 5 trillion in spending isn't going to make a difference? How many bridges do you want to buy?

I don't have any bridges but I'm seeing the marks from those goal posts you're dragging.
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Judgmenl
07/10/23 11:49:26 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
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I'm sorry, I don't listen to anyone who supports the Russian state and despite being a Senator for years hasn't done anything meaningful with his position except ***** and moan.

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Lokarin
07/10/23 12:17:42 PM
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Economics is like the casino, there must be a dollar in circulation for ever dollar of product in circulation...

However, non-perishable goods exist leading to accumulation of product, such as TVs/cars and such, which are not removed from circulation... leading to perpetual rise in the total value of product.

The only way to stop inflation would be to either destroy older product or stop producing.

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Yellow
07/10/23 1:18:29 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
I'm sorry, I don't listen to anyone who supports the Russian state and despite being a Senator for years hasn't done anything meaningful with his position except ***** and moan.
We really don't deserve Bernie.

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07/10/23 1:28:57 PM
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