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Starks
06/30/23 4:27:01 PM
#352:


To what end?

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Carljank
06/30/23 4:27:09 PM
#353:


Sandalorn posted...
Just nailing it. Now don't stop....keep it going all the way to the elections.
Yup we gotta keep the Republican pigs out of power.

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Skankhair
06/30/23 4:29:31 PM
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Starks posted...
That doesn't answer the question though.

Double digit interest rates are for credit cards, not student loans.

There's no earthly reason why someone today or even 20 years ago couldn't get 8% or below.


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YoshiMitsurugi
06/30/23 4:30:22 PM
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My family bought me my own 4 bedroom and 3 bath house and I have no need for a vehicle. I'm in loan debt for about 40K and I ain't paying back a penny to those bums. And I never even got my degree lol. I spent all my loan money on partying and strip clubs haha.

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andel
06/30/23 4:33:01 PM
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of course octillery is more upset about this than the court literally turning women into incubators. that account will be banned with the rest within a week

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Calamity_Kaiju
06/30/23 4:33:12 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
1. Tuition prices are way above what's needed.
2. Textbooks are outrageously expensive and often mandatory.
3. There's no guarantee of a job after graduation.
You are getting a loan to pay for artificially jacked prices and then graduation doesn't actually mean you're prepared to work in the field you studied.
Not only that but most mid to high end jobs are looking for something so specific, it's almost impossible to even get an interview.
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Ludwig_Von_2
06/30/23 4:46:07 PM
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Calamity_Kaiju posted...
My wife and I aren't either. I know several others who aren't.

Government can garnish your wages without even taking you to court.

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royic
06/30/23 5:01:09 PM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
We're not talking about hypotheticals. We're talking about something objectively bad happening now to millions of people. Any potential fallout from this lies solely at the feet of the corrupt justices and those who installed them. Stop making fucking excuses for them.

There's nothing hypothetical about it, it's just yes/no do you think the president should be bound by laws lol

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Calamity_Kaiju
06/30/23 5:04:15 PM
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Ludwig_Von_2 posted...
Government can garnish your wages without even taking you to court.
They haven't yet. But we both qualify for income based repayment as well. And if we start making too much, we'll get a divorce and each claim 2 kids lol. They'll never see a dime of our money again. On principle alone.
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Zonbei
06/30/23 5:10:46 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Isn't this the most-common belief among people who actually know what they're talking about? I'm pretty sure there's a number of cans of worms that would be opened (that they don't really want opened) if they end up overturning it.

This aged well

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Akagami_Shanks
06/30/23 5:13:33 PM
#362:


considering the makeup of the supreme court, i don't think this outcome was ever in question

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Starks
06/30/23 5:14:43 PM
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Skankhair posted...
So you have no answer.

Calamity_Kaiju posted...
They haven't yet. But we both qualify for income based repayment as well. And if we start making too much, we'll get a divorce and each claim 2 kids lol. They'll never see a dime of our money again. On principle alone.

How did you get into that situation where you decided to renege on your obligations?

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Zonbei
06/30/23 5:15:28 PM
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jasten posted...
Then move.

If you dont like people having different opinions about the direction of the country and its courts, maybe you should move. Or even better, simply shut the fuck up.

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IronWolf87
06/30/23 5:33:03 PM
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So I read an article and apparently Biden's IDR reform hasn't been killed, however, republicans are planning to bring a suit against that so it's only a matter of time before that is killed as well.
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Ludwig_Von_2
06/30/23 5:33:28 PM
#366:


Calamity_Kaiju posted...
They haven't yet. But we both qualify for income based repayment as well. And if we start making too much, we'll get a divorce and each claim 2 kids lol. They'll never see a dime of our money again. On principle alone.

I guess I dont understand how that would avoid garnishments. That is when your employer withholds part of your paycheck. Its not related to paying taxes.

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RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 5:35:05 PM
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Starks posted...
How did you get into that situation where you decided to renege on your obligations?
Obligations stop being obligations when it comes clear how predatory they are.

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Calamity_Kaiju
06/30/23 5:41:16 PM
#368:


Ludwig_Von_2 posted...
I guess I dont understand how that would avoid garnishments. That is when your employer withholds part of your paycheck. Its not related to paying taxes.
If you make under a certain amount, the government itself sets your payment at little to nothing based on income. Our payment per month is currently $0 because of household income and size. If we start making more money, we will simply divorce and claim single income. Our payment will remain $0. Now that doesn't stop interest, but at this point, it's only a matter of time until debt forgiveness and total collapse, so who really cares?
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twanderer
06/30/23 5:41:41 PM
#369:


Ludwig_Von_2 posted...
I guess I dont understand how that would avoid garnishments. That is when your employer withholds part of your paycheck. Its not related to paying taxes.
Yeah. They don't get it. They think they can just stop paying and Uncle Sam will forget about it, or something.
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FlyEaglesFly24
06/30/23 5:44:11 PM
#370:


IronWolf87 posted...
So I read an article and apparently Biden's IDR reform hasn't been killed, however, republicans are planning to bring a suit against that so it's only a matter of time before that is killed as well.

Link to the article?

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SaikyoStyle
06/30/23 5:46:04 PM
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Calamity_Kaiju posted...
If you make under a certain amount, the government itself sets your payment at little to nothing based on income. Our payment per month is currently $0 because of household income and size. If we start making more money, we will simply divorce and claim single income. Our payment will remain $0. Now that doesn't stop interest, but at this point, it's only a matter of time until debt forgiveness and total collapse, so who really cares?
I dont see debt forgiveness ever happening. Biden should just extend the pause until the day after Inauguration Day 2025 in case he loses.

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IronWolf87
06/30/23 5:52:54 PM
#372:


FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
Link to the article?

https://fortune.com/2023/06/30/student-loan-forgiveness-dead-bidens-income-driven-repayment-plan-ongoing/
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Starks
06/30/23 5:52:55 PM
#373:


RuneterranSnap posted...
Obligations stop being obligations when it comes clear how predatory they are.
If it was a 27% interest rate, that would be one thing. I don't think that's the case though.

Picking the wrong major or realizing your job prospects suck despite doing nothing wrong does not make it predatory.

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Toonstrack
06/30/23 5:54:33 PM
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They are speedrunning losing the next election lol

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Starks
06/30/23 5:58:27 PM
#375:


For the love of god, just refinance and combine your loans.

In my case, it added a year or two to my repayment schedule.

Theoretically, I would have been done right now if I hadn't but I would have been paying extra 400 something more per month.

But I'm glad I did. I cut my interest rate by more than half. And I had four different interest rates that I had to keep track of until that point.

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Starks
06/30/23 6:01:36 PM
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It's your job to explain why the alternatives are not worth pursuing when they are clear and legal and forgiveness simply isn't happening.

People need to have the reality check now.

The years of false hope have been more harmful than actually doing things that are tangible.

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Block_that_Kick
06/30/23 6:02:11 PM
#378:


https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1674873606528966656

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1674873609288916992

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RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 6:02:22 PM
#379:


Starks posted...
If it was a 27% interest rate, that would be one thing. I don't think that's the case though.

Picking the wrong major or realizing your job prospects suck despite doing nothing wrong does not make it predatory.
We're literally seeing people who have paid more than the initial amount and still have a balance higher than the original loan from interest. That's predatory as fuck.

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Starks
06/30/23 6:03:00 PM
#380:


Yes, that is predatory.

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Rasmoh
06/30/23 6:08:52 PM
#381:


Joey B throwing out that new carrot quick-like.

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Starks
06/30/23 6:10:09 PM
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I don't understand why people just have no interest in hardship claims or forbearance letters. Use the tools at your disposal.

You still have to pay it back but maybe you'll have some breathing room until you can.

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Patty_Fleur
06/30/23 6:11:44 PM
#383:


Biden's plan offered nothing for people like me that paid their loans off. So fuck him.

I'd be down with student loan forgiveness if he actually tried to help everyone.
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Tyranthraxus
06/30/23 6:12:55 PM
#384:


Patty_Fleur posted...
Biden's plan offered nothing for people like me that paid their loans off. So fuck him.

I'd be down with student loan forgiveness if he actually tried to help everyone.
He is helping everyone. Some people are just getting more help than others. Student loan forgiveness helps even people who have repaid their loans.

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Takuya_Lee
06/30/23 6:13:01 PM
#385:


Starks posted...
I don't understand why people just have no interest in hardship, claims or forbearance letters. Use the tools at your disposal.

You still have to pay it back but maybe you'll have some breathing room until you can.

Maybe they don't know about those options.

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RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 6:13:15 PM
#386:


Patty_Fleur posted...
Biden's plan offered nothing for people like me that paid their loans off. So fuck him.

I'd be down with student loan forgiveness if he actually tried to help everyone.
That's a pretty shitty take. I agree that loan reimbursement should also be on the table, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't stop more victims from being created just because you escaped.

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Patty_Fleur
06/30/23 6:13:26 PM
#387:


Tyranthraxus posted...
He is helping everyone. Some people are just getting more help than others. Student loan forgiveness helps even people who have repaid their loans.

How?
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Rasmoh
06/30/23 6:14:25 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
How?

"the economy"

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Starks
06/30/23 6:14:41 PM
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Takuya_Lee posted...
Maybe they don't know about those options.
Absolutely, that's why I expect the govt and companies like SoFi or Lendkey to advertise heavily in the coming days.

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RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 6:14:45 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
How?
Less debt being saddled on people is generally good for the economy because people are able to spend more.

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Carljank
06/30/23 6:15:00 PM
#393:


Patty_Fleur posted...
Biden's plan offered nothing for people like me that paid their loans off. So fuck him.

I'd be down with student loan forgiveness if he actually tried to help everyone.
Right because a recession is much better for everyone.

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Patty_Fleur
06/30/23 6:15:02 PM
#394:


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That's fucking food dude. Survival. We're talking about college here.
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Tyranthraxus
06/30/23 6:15:25 PM
#395:


Patty_Fleur posted...
How?

It improves the local economies. You have more customers so your job can pay you more or grow bigger, instead of shrink and cut your hours.

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Iodine
06/30/23 6:16:05 PM
#397:


Biden agreeing to restart payments was such a terrible idea.

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DrizztLink
06/30/23 6:19:15 PM
#398:


Patty_Fleur posted...
Biden's plan offered nothing for people like me that paid their loans off. So fuck him.

I'd be down with student loan forgiveness if he actually tried to help everyone.
You've got to set the foundation before moving forward in a needs-based environment like this.

Deal with the people who actively have loans, then use that systemic framework to address helping people who paid them.

Getting pissed and flipping the table because the first stage of a multi-stage plan doesn't help you means nobody gets helped.

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lilORANG
06/30/23 6:20:35 PM
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So now he'll just extend the payment pause indefinitely lol

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Patty_Fleur
06/30/23 6:20:44 PM
#400:


DrizztLink posted...
You've got to set the foundation before moving forward in a needs-based environment like this.

Deal with the people who actively have loans, then use that systemic framework to address helping people who paid them.

Getting pissed and flipping the table because the first stage of a multi-stage plan doesn't help you means nobody gets helped.

Oh no. People have to pay back the loan they agreed to borrow. I'm so sad.
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Block_that_Kick
06/30/23 6:21:13 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Biden's plan offered nothing for people like me that paid their loans off. So fuck him.

I'd be down with student loan forgiveness if he actually tried to help everyone.

Cancer research funding is unfair to people like me who dont have cancer.

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