Current Events > The Supreme Court student loan forgiveness decision is tomorrow

Topic List
Page List: 1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 2:38:56 PM
#302:


Rexdragon125 posted...
https://theintercept.com/2022/08/25/student-loans-debt-reagan/
THE ORIGIN OF STUDENT DEBT: REAGAN ADVISER WARNED FREE COLLEGE WOULD CREATE A DANGEROUS EDUCATED PROLETARIAT
In 1970, Roger Freeman, who also worked for Nixon, revealed the rights motivation for coming decades of attacks on higher education.
Yup, we know. That's part of why this needs to be fixed now.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
royic
06/30/23 2:38:59 PM
#303:


RuneterranSnap posted...
It doesn't even have to be executive order, he has laws giving him explicit authority.

But even if that weren't the case, this would ABSOLUTELY be a good target. Not only is it perfectly reasonable and addressing a major flaw in modern US society, but it's literally one of his primary campaign goals, he should be taking every effort he can to fulfill that.

But he won't because he doesn't actually care about the people.

SCOTUS is the entity that has final say over what the laws actually mean. Ignoring their decision isn't a genie you put back in the bottle.

---
binga
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 2:40:26 PM
#304:


royic posted...
SCOTUS is the entity that has final say over what the laws actually mean. Ignoring their decision isn't a genie you put back in the bottle.
SCOTUS is illegitimate and a joke and this only overrides the way he tried to do it, not other laws regarding it.

Even if this did block it he could and should do it, as well as booting every dissenter to the curb. Personally I feel any dissenter to this shouldn't be left alone until they're penniless living on the streets, but I'm just someone who likes to see justice.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Ninjaluver
06/30/23 2:40:55 PM
#305:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Who is the someone? What's their first and last name? Do they have a birthday?

Which specific student loan are you referring to? That will change the answer to this question.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee
06/30/23 2:41:31 PM
#306:


royic posted...
SCOTUS is the entity that has final say over what the laws actually mean. Ignoring their decision isn't a genie you put back in the bottle.

But it is something that has to be done when the court goes off the rails. They have no enforcement power for a reason.

---
Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault.
... Copied to Clipboard!
royic
06/30/23 2:42:41 PM
#307:


RuneterranSnap posted...
SCOTUS is illegitimate and a joke and this only overrides the way he tried to do it, not other laws regarding it.

Even if this did block it he could and should do it, as well as booting every dissenter to the curb. Personally I feel any dissenter to this shouldn't be left alone until they're penniless living on the streets, but I'm just someone who likes to see justice.

Go around with some other law? Sure. Just outright set a precedent that the executive gets to disregard the rule of law carte blanche? Yeah that worries me a bit.

---
binga
... Copied to Clipboard!
Ar0ge
06/30/23 2:43:16 PM
#308:


Why isn't the SCOTUS required to make decisions unanimously?
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 2:43:38 PM
#309:


royic posted...
Go around with some other law? Sure. Just outright set a precedent that the executive gets to disregard the rule of law carte blanche? Yeah that worries me a bit.
Then you're part of the problem and shoukd be ignored.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
royic
06/30/23 2:44:29 PM
#310:


RuneterranSnap posted...
Then you're part of the problem and shoukd be ignored.

You want to trade 10k in student loan debt for Trump to do literally anything he wants in 2024?

---
binga
... Copied to Clipboard!
samsungsalt
06/30/23 2:46:02 PM
#311:


I dont even want to know of the recourse this will have on the economy in the next 6 months...

---
my old computer died and i didn't feel like resetting the password to my original account, so i created this one instead. now i only use it when i use my iphone
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 2:46:10 PM
#312:


royic posted...
You want to trade 10k in student loan debt for Trump to do literally anything he wants in 2024?
Trump isn't taking office and the SC is already in his pocket anyway. Try again.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius
06/30/23 2:47:38 PM
#313:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Reagan was a stingy bastard whenever not-military was involved, thus any thin excuse was considered a good one.
Plus, you know, recycling old Nixon standards automatically brought in a willing audience.
... Copied to Clipboard!
royic
06/30/23 2:51:24 PM
#314:


RuneterranSnap posted...
Trump isn't taking office and the SC is already in his pocket anyway. Try again.

you don't imagine someone could ever be elected president who would try to do something so bad that even this court would want to block it

---
binga
... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap
06/30/23 2:53:49 PM
#315:


royic posted...
you don't imagine someone could ever be elected president who would try to do something so bad that even this court would want to block it
We're not talking about hypotheticals. We're talking about something objectively bad happening now to millions of people. Any potential fallout from this lies solely at the feet of the corrupt justices and those who installed them. Stop making fucking excuses for them.

---
Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery
... Copied to Clipboard!
Steffenfield
06/30/23 2:54:08 PM
#316:


There have been 116 Justices of the Supreme Court.

Only 3 have been confirmed by Senators not representing a majority of the voters.

All 3 of them were in court today.
... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy
06/30/23 2:57:37 PM
#317:


samsungsalt posted...
I dont even want to know of the recourse this will have on the economy in the next 6 months...

My prediction is that inflation is going to come down, and while all the conservative talking heads are hooting and hollering, the country will the plunge into a deep recession as the economy implodes.

---
=E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Agent_Stroud
06/30/23 3:00:02 PM
#318:


COVxy posted...
My prediction is that inflation is going to come down, and while all the conservative talking heads are hooting and hollering, the country will the plunge into a deep recession as the economy implodes.

Dont you mean continue to go up? Not sure how the inflation going down is going to be the deathknell of the economy.

---
"We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017)
... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy
06/30/23 3:04:39 PM
#319:


No, I don't.

---
=E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus
06/30/23 3:12:08 PM
#320:


Agent_Stroud posted...
Dont you mean continue to go up? Not sure how the inflation going down is going to be the deathknell of the economy.

Inflation goes down because people stop spending money because they have to go to student loans instead. All the money going to banks none of it going to anyone else. That's why it's bad for the economy.

---
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Von23
06/30/23 3:27:39 PM
#321:


Y'all knew Biden couldn't deliver on this as it was really a Midterm ploy for turnout, so don't act surprised at the result.


---
"Decorating your own meltdowns is all well and good, but a trainwreck is a trainwreck and it might be time to get a paramedic."
... Copied to Clipboard!
Carljank
06/30/23 3:36:03 PM
#322:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Inflation goes down because people stop spending money because they have to go to student loans instead. All the money going to banks none of it going to anyone else. That's why it's bad for the economy.
Fact

---
Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent.
Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2
... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII
06/30/23 3:36:41 PM
#323:


Von23 posted...
Y'all knew Biden couldn't deliver on this as it was really a Midterm ploy for turnout, so don't act surprised at the result.
No, we understand the three branches of government. You don't.

---
Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Carljank
06/30/23 3:42:47 PM
#324:


Will_VIIII posted...
No, we understand the three branches of government. You don't.
Funny when he crawls out of a hole to post only to get suspended on some dumb bigoted shit lol

---
Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent.
Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2
... Copied to Clipboard!
Von23
06/30/23 3:45:41 PM
#325:


Will_VIIII posted...
No, we understand the three branches of government. You don't.

Don't gotta lie to fit in.

Carljank posted...
Funny when he crawls out of a hole to post only to get suspended on some dumb bigoted shit lol

A bunch of nothing. Read the nonsense you just posted.

---
"Decorating your own meltdowns is all well and good, but a trainwreck is a trainwreck and it might be time to get a paramedic."
... Copied to Clipboard!
Carljank
06/30/23 3:47:59 PM
#326:


Not sure why this dude's gotta get so emotional everytime.

---
Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent.
Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn
06/30/23 3:48:08 PM
#327:


Biden and Dems need to be in front of a mic or reporter every day until the election talking about how Republicans only want to spread more misery and suffering to the citizenry while Dems are literally trying to help them. Every day. On message.

---
Posted under Ellesarian in a past life.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn
06/30/23 3:49:53 PM
#328:


Carljank posted...
Not sure why this dude's gotta get so emotional everytime.

Von has to be at the very top of least respected posters on here. Nobody takes him serious. He's like tails.

---
Posted under Ellesarian in a past life.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Carljank
06/30/23 3:50:24 PM
#329:


Sandalorn posted...
Von has to be at the very top of least respected posters on here. Nobody takes him serious. He's like tails.
Lol very true. Spot on comparison.

---
Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent.
Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2
... Copied to Clipboard!
Von23
06/30/23 3:51:23 PM
#330:


Sandalorn posted...
Von has to be at the very top of least respected posters on here. Nobody takes him serious. He's like tails.

Imagine being respected by y'all? Lol!

I'd be doing something wrong if that was the case. I'd rather focus on being right every time you folks say ridiculous things.

---
"Decorating your own meltdowns is all well and good, but a trainwreck is a trainwreck and it might be time to get a paramedic."
... Copied to Clipboard!
Skankhair
06/30/23 3:55:00 PM
#331:


jasten posted...
You willingly took the loan that isnt stealing.

This would be true if student loans werent predatory and based on lies and deception.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Carljank
06/30/23 3:55:04 PM
#332:


That is a really cute self-affirmation :)

---
Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent.
Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2
... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks
06/30/23 3:55:55 PM
#333:


Skankhair posted...
This would be true if student loans werent predatory and based on lies and deception.
Specify what makes a student loan predatory.

I'd like a specific interest rate or repayment policy.

---
Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4)
... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade
06/30/23 3:57:20 PM
#334:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Inflation goes down because people stop spending money because they have to go to student loans instead. All the money going to banks none of it going to anyone else. That's why it's bad for the economy.
Our high Goverment spending and excessive money printing more then makes up for that. And it's not even close.

So the last thing our economy needs now.

---
3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer
PSN: Blackkaizer
... Copied to Clipboard!
Skankhair
06/30/23 3:59:15 PM
#335:


Starks posted...
Specify what makes a student loan predatory.

I'd like a specific interest rate or repayment policy.

They target young people who dont understand financial jargon, so they sign up and end up unknowingly having to pay back far more than the loan amount was for. The deception is on purpose.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII
06/30/23 3:59:56 PM
#336:


Skankhair posted...
They target young people who dont understand financial jargon, so they sign up and end up unknowingly having to pay back far more than the loan amount was for. The deception is on purpose.
There's enough verified examples where people have paid double the amount of the original loan and still owe.

---
Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Skankhair
06/30/23 4:00:44 PM
#337:


Will_VIIII posted...
There's enough verified examples where people have paid double the amount of the original loan and still owe.

Yep, but people want to pretend its the students who just want free money not the lenders.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Carljank
06/30/23 4:02:07 PM
#338:


Skankhair posted...
This would be true if student loans werent predatory and based on lies and deception.

Lol he's warned. Gotta wonder if thats why other certain clown alts might be appearing.

---
Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent.
Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2
... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman
06/30/23 4:02:49 PM
#339:


so i just saw a bunch of students who were like "debt relief is legal! president biden promised us!" did he actually make that promise? i remember him saying he would try.

---
Italian, French, German.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII
06/30/23 4:03:38 PM
#340:


Like if you've already paid the amount of the loan and 10% interest on top of that already that's fair

---
Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus
06/30/23 4:04:34 PM
#341:


Starks posted...
Specify what makes a student loan predatory.

I'd like a specific interest rate or repayment policy.

  1. Tuition prices are way above what's needed.
  2. Textbooks are outrageously expensive and often mandatory.
  3. There's no guarantee of a job after graduation.
You are getting a loan to pay for artificially jacked prices and then graduation doesn't actually mean you're prepared to work in the field you studied.

---
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks
06/30/23 4:06:39 PM
#342:


That doesn't answer the question though.

Double digit interest rates are for credit cards, not student loans.

There's no earthly reason why someone today or even 20 years ago couldn't get 8% or below.

---
Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4)
... Copied to Clipboard!
#343
Post #343 was unavailable or deleted.
mybbqrules
06/30/23 4:06:56 PM
#344:


chaos_knight posted...
The goal is to plunge the US into a recession before the 2024 elections. This is just one part of it.
Ding ding ding.

---
Currently playing: Megaman Collection 1 and 2
... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot
06/30/23 4:08:05 PM
#345:


Biden is roasting SCOTUS live now:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?529088-1/president-biden-supreme-court-rejecting-student-debt-forgiveness&live
... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks
06/30/23 4:08:25 PM
#346:


And with respect to textbooks, yes that's a shitty industry.

I barely got by with Chegg and whatever PDFs were around back then. I would hope that it's a lot easier now to get around that industry.

---
Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4)
... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman
06/30/23 4:10:44 PM
#347:


the textbooks really sucked. buy it for 100 sell it for 10 resell it for 100 again . i think with the exception of math i didn't really buy any textbooks. the internet was in its infancy at the time when i was in college but i got by just taking a lot of notes and a little internet.

---
Italian, French, German.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Carljank
06/30/23 4:14:46 PM
#348:


BewmHedshot posted...
Biden is roasting SCOTUS live now:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?529088-1/president-biden-supreme-court-rejecting-student-debt-forgiveness&live
Haha he destroyed any notion that he was hoping for this to be blocked through the action he's putting forth. He responded perfectly.

---
Sorry if my posts make you feel emotional. It is not my intent.
Make America Nazi-Free Again. #NoMoreNazis #Wolf2
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn
06/30/23 4:16:06 PM
#349:


Carljank posted...
Haha he destroyed any notion that he was hoping for this to be blocked through the action he's putting forth. He responded perfectly.


Just nailing it. Now don't stop....keep it going all the way to the elections.

---
Posted under Ellesarian in a past life.
... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky
06/30/23 4:24:40 PM
#350:


BewmHedshot posted...
Biden is roasting SCOTUS live now:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?529088-1/president-biden-supreme-court-rejecting-student-debt-forgiveness&live
If Biden couldn't/wouldn't do jack shit about the destruction of abortion rights, LOL @ thinking he'll do anything about people being forced to pay back the loans they voluntarily signed up for. That he tried to push through as a COVID emergency relief measure that made no fucking sense...even though the COVID emergency was declared over.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Calamity_Kaiju
06/30/23 4:26:25 PM
#351:


RuneterranSnap posted...
My wife isn't paying hers back regardless so hopefully the decision is the right one.
My wife and I aren't either. I know several others who aren't.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10