Poll of the Day > What the hell, Nintendo changed the Pikmin 3 logo to look more like 4

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It's cool that Pikmin is getting some love, and the entire main series is all on Switch now, but just, why? The old logo looked so much better.

Also, for anyone that has played Pikmin 1 and 2 on Switch, how are they compared to the originals?

papercup posted...

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It's cool that Pikmin is getting some love, and the entire main series is all on Switch now, but just, why? The old logo looked so much better.

Also, for anyone that has played Pikmin 1 and 2 on Switch, how are they compared to the originals?

Wait how can you play 1 and 2 on Switch?

by buying them

https://www.nintendo.com/pikmin-1-2/

papercup posted...

The old logo looked so much better.

Probably to make it easier to read in small resolutions in the store

With all four games now on the Switch, I'd guess they just wanted more consistent branding to tie them all together. It's not altogether necessary to do it that way, but I can kind of understand it.

Revelation34 posted...

Wait how can you play 1 and 2 on Switch?

They shadow dropped 1 and 2 on Switch eShop last week, with a physical release coming later this year I think

So is Pikmin an rts?

Basically. The little guys all follow you around and you can toss them at things. Toss them at an object and they'll interact with it or carry it around, toss them at an enemy and they'll latch on and start attacking. They're like a bunch of ants fighting alien wildlife on an oversized planet.

It has some rts-like elements.
The first game your biggest adversary is time, you have 30 in-game days to retrieve all 30 missing ship parts or you lose. An in-game day is something like 13 minutes long. The pikmin have the simplest mechanics in this game. Red do more damage than Blue or Yellow and are immune to fire. Blue can swim. Yellow can be thrown higher, and also can use bomb rocks. The key to success is multitasking to make the best of your available time. Only one playable captain in this game. This is like a perfectly paced game. The time limit isn't as bad as it initially sounds, and with enough practice and skill, and you can complete the game in like an hour.
2 shakes up the formula with 2 playable captains simultaneously, and 2 new Pikmin types. You can switch between either captain with the press of a button so you can divvy up tasks between them easily. Purple Pikmin have the strength of 10 Pikmin, and can stun enemies when they slam on top of them, but they're very slow. Some treasure require Purples to carry them. White Pikmin can dig and are immune to poison, and if enemies eat them they take poison damage. There's also infinite time to complete your goals. This time around you aren't trying to repair a ship to survive, you're trying to hunt for treasure to pay off your boss's debt then later to make as much money as possible. Most of the action takes place inside of randomly generated dungeons, and when you're inside the dungeons time doesn't progress. This game is okay. Some people say it's the best one, I disagree, I think it's the weakest of the three. The dungeons have random bullshit that you can't predict like bombs and enemies falling out of the sky and killing your Pikmin at the worst time. And imo the game starts to peter out and feel repetitive about halfway through.
3 on the other hand. Oh boy, Pikmin 3 is amazing. Once again you're trying to survive a crash landing. You have 3 captains that you can switch between, and give orders to remotely and the name of the game here is efficiency and multitasking. Your goal is to collect as much fruit as possible while searching for a missing character. You have a time limit again, but it's like a moving time limit. The more fruit you claim, the more days you get to achieve your goals. There's 2 new Pikmin types. Rock Pikmin are kind of like a replacement for Purples in combat. They aren't slower or stronger for carrying, but you can throw them to break fragile objects and deal contact damage, and they're effectively immune to most damage types. But outside of the damage they do from being thrown, they're fairly weak in combat. Flying Pikmin are cute and pink, and they can fly(wow!). They can pull certain types of plants out of the ground, they can move certain obstacles for you, lift certain gates or make bridges that other Pikmin can't. And because they fly, when carrying they can sometimes take shortcuts that other Pikmin can't. In battle though they're really bad. They're necessary to fight some enemy types, but they shouldn't be your go-to.

Pikmin 4 is looking like it's going to be closer to 2, than 1 or 3. But it looks like you only have one playable captain again. 2 new Pikmin types, ice and glow. Ice can freeze water they touch, and glow can only be used at night. There's also the dog Oatchi that looks like it can do all the things Pikmin can, and the Pikmin can ride on him. It will be interesting to see how all this plays out, but it's looking like it will be a pretty beefy game. I'm excited.

Quezovercoatl posted...

So is Pikmin an rts?

That's probably the closest you'll get with any traditional genre label. They're pretty unique games, or at least were when the first one came out (though, off-hand, the only similar, more recent game I can think of is Little King Story).

There's also the Overlord games, at least the first couple, have some Pikmin-like elements where you control minions.

Patapon's kinda sorta similar too, I guess? Overlord's a lot closer though

Man Sony should make a new Patapon game. Or port the originals to PS5 or something.

F zero

papercup posted...

Man Sony should make a new Patapon game. Or port the originals to PS5 or something.

first two games have remasters on ps4 and it looks like you can play them on the ps5

papercup posted...

They shadow dropped 1 and 2 on Switch eShop last week, with a physical release coming later this year I think

Damn. I was hoping they would release a GameCube player one day. Are they remastered?

Revelation34 posted...

Damn. I was hoping they would release a GameCube player one day. Are they remastered?

I think some of the textures were upscaled? Not 100% sure what all they did.

People keep spreading this idea that Pikmin 4 is a sequel to the bad ending in Pikmin 1, where Olimar dies and gets turned into a Pikmin. And maybe that's what it is, but that kinda doesn't really make perfect sense at the same time. Like he didn't have his dog with him in Pikmin 1, and that's most likely who the dog with him in the trailer is, it's his family dog Bulbie. And we know from Pikmin 2 that Pikmin can be parasitic. So most likely what happened is Olimar went back to PNF 404 with Bulbie to hunt for treasure, and they were attacked by a parasitic Pikmin they had never seen before.

Maybe in Pikmin 4 we find out Olimar is a patient at a mental hospital and the pikmins are cockroaches in how cell that he's trained to attack and eat his caretakers.

Thats making way too much sense

i bet they're rats.

little dude at least deserves rats.

Pikmin 2 is better on the wii

The Demo for Pikmin 4 is supposed to be out sometime today

demo's out

Started the demo this morning. Didn't finish it yet, because right when I found the yellow Pikmin my Mom called me and told me she needed me to pick something up for her, so I had to leave. I'm gonna finish the demo in a few hours. So far it's good, biggest gripe is the Rescue Corps members will not shut up lol

papercup posted...

Started the demo this morning. Didn't finish it yet, because right when I found the yellow Pikmin my Mom called me and told me she needed me to pick something up for her, so I had to leave. I'm gonna finish the demo in a few hours. So far it's good, biggest gripe is the Rescue Corps members will not shut up lol

Is that seriously a spoiler lol

LonelyStoner posted...

Is that seriously a spoiler lol

For the demo? Sure why not?

papercup posted...

For the demo? Sure why not?

How

Considering how short the demo, and how it's literally just the first couple hours of the game, yes I would considering getting those on what is essentially the first day to be a spoiler.

Anyway, looks like people are already finding ways to break the demo and getting things you aren't supposed to yet, and the game is being datamined through the demo. The entire Piklopedia is out there already.

Completed the demo. Got about 70% of Subsparkled Terrace completed. Found a second Onion and a couple Frarlics, and completed something like 8 caves. I cannot wait for the full release.

Okay, so, you are actually able to 100% Sun-speckled Terrace in the demo. If you spend a day or 2 setting up, like opening all the paths and doors and whatnot, you are then able to complete every cave, get every treasure, rescue every castaway, and get every Onion and Frarlic. And in addition to that, it turns out you can only have up to 3 types of Pikmin out at any time. You can find more than that in the demo. And according to the new overview trailer that dropped last night, in the main campaign you can find 8 types of Pikmin, and then the Glow Pikmin on night expeditions.
Also other interesting info, you can remap a ton of different actions to the d-pad. A surprising amount of customization there. Also treasures and corpses and whatever else can be carried are persistent across days. Corpses do not disappear at night anymore. At least for a couple nights. And that also means if you only partially move an object, where you left it is remembered. Also in the Piklopedia you can practice fighting enemies. And there's probably other things I'm forgetting, we're learning a lot about this game today. Why do I have to wait 3 weeks to get the full game? >_<

Anyone here play Little King's Story on the Wii? Super underrated game, very Pikmin like.

I kinda want to replay the demo today to get 100% completion lol

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Anyone here play Little King's Story on the Wii? Super underrated game, very Pikmin like.

I never actually finished it, but it was a good time until I got distracted by something else (don't remember what). I should go through it again some time.

So I replayed the demo last night to get 100% completion on Sun-Speckled Terrace. I can confirm that yes in fact you can get everything on that level in the demo. I did it in 3 days, first two days essentially were set up, doing specific caves to unlock all paths, opening all landing sites, moving treasures to specific locations, building Pikmin numbers, stuff like that. So in order to do this, you need to level Oatchi's Buff skill to 3, and get level 1 of Super Buff, and have at least 30 ice pikmin in order to get the Blue Onion. And I noticed that level 3 of Super Buff gives Oatchi the carry strength of 100 Pikmin. @_@ Oatchi is too powerful.

Apparently people don't like Pikmin 3, and that's shocking to me considering that's the best one. Yeah it's short and easy, but so was Pikmin 1, and nobody has a problem with that game. And it's weird that people think the caves with random bullshit falling out of the sky murdering you in Pikmin 2 is good design. And I kind of like Pikmin 2, it is fun, it is a Pikmin game, but honestly it's the worst one by a mile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWBWglh3BFU

20 minutes of the second level, shows new enemies and a new boss. Also oh no enemies falling out of the sky in caves. Im worried the dungeon experience will be garbage like in 2. But Im still eager to play a new Pikmin game. Hopefully the dungeons dont ruin the game.

Played Pikmin 2 for like 6 hours yesterday. Yes I was right, this game has issues galore. The most viable strategy in caves is to turtle, scouting out the random falling hazards with one of your captains, then go and one by one kill all the dangerous enemies with your purples, and occasionally deal with hazards with white or yellow Pikmin. You know, the complete antithesis to what makes Pikmin fun. Seriously the people that say this is the best Pikmin game, I do not understand. But despite kinda not liking this game, I kinda do still like it because it's Pikmin, but I recognize that it's a complete mess.

The only thing wrong with Pikmin 1 was the time limit.

I like the time limits in Pikmin games. That's what makes them so fun in the first place, figuring out an effective strategy to complete the game as fast as possible.

I liked 1 and 2 in different ways. Having some time pressure is fun, but limits your ability to explore freely. Not having the time pressure gave more freedom to explore and have longer, more complex boss fights that demanded army management more than speed, but days ended up being really long and there wasn't much by way of motivation pushing me to do anything quickly. Conceptually, I liked how 3 balanced the time pressure of 1 with the freedom to explore of 2, in that your fruit supply meant there was a time pressure, but that playing well and exploring meant you could amass a surplus to give you more breathing room. In practice, though, it only took like a day or two of half-competent play to collect enough fruit to realistically never run out (at least until Louie happens), so it didn't end up providing much time pressure after all.

God Pikmin 3 has the best side content in any game ever.

papercup posted...

Man Sony should make a new Patapon game. Or port the originals to PS5 or something.

they're already playable on it

at least 2 is anyways, i saw it when going through the ps+ library

looking into it, 3 was never remastered or ported for some reason, but the first two are

https://i.redd.it/9iwei08376bb1.jpg

I finished Pikmin 3 today. Why must I wait another week and a half

Apparently some weirdo on twitter has been making Pikmin 4 ads of Olimar shaking his ass and using a service to get them up in Times Square. While funny, when Nintendo finds out, their assassins are going to have a field day.

papercup posted...

Apparently some weirdo on twitter has been making Pikmin 4 ads of Olimar shaking his ass and using a service to get them up in Times Square. While funny, when Nintendo finds out, their assassins are going to have a field day.

There's no video?

https://twitter.com/dreampachi/status/1678608360579514368?s=20

Here you go. The Pikmin Subreddit keeps trying to up the Times Square memes, and I keep telling them that when Nintendo finds out they're advertising Pikmin 4 with Olimar shaking his ass, or with fake, racist characters that Nintendo is going to come down hard on them, but they won't listen.

Of course people are just putting boss spoilers in youtube thumbnails. Why wouldn't they. :|

papercup posted...

https://twitter.com/dreampachi/status/1678608360579514368?s=20

Here you go. The Pikmin Subreddit keeps trying to up the Times Square memes, and I keep telling them that when Nintendo finds out they're advertising Pikmin 4 with Olimar shaking his ass, or with fake, racist characters that Nintendo is going to come down hard on them, but they won't listen.

this is fucking amazing

It is funny, and the Pikmin subreddit is one of my favorites, but all people are talking about on there is what memes to get up on the screens in Times Square and it's getting old.