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videospirit
07/12/23 1:15:13 PM
#354:


ROBANN_88 posted...
I've been suspended from r/AskaRussian like 3 times now.
This is the first time i've been banned from the whole site

All i did was mention that submarine commander that just got shot on his morning jog, and suggest it should be repeated more, in response to someone asking what Russians who are pro-Ukraine should be doing.
Somehow they took that as a threath.

At the very least it's calling for violence.

Although not sure that restriction should apply in a freaking war.

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Foppe
07/12/23 5:35:42 PM
#355:


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-defence-ministry-says-wagner-is-completing-handover-its-weapons-state-2023-07-12/

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Foppe
07/13/23 9:10:55 AM
#357:


So he chose tea when he visited Putin.

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Thompson
07/13/23 9:34:39 AM
#358:


Russian General Slams Treacherous Top Brass in Post-Mutiny Audio
A Russian army general was heard railing against his superiors for treacherously decapitating the military after his dismissal in an audio message shared by a federal lawmaker late Wednesday.
The speech criticizing Russias military leadership marks the first publicly known instance of a regular army officer voicing disaffection after Wagners failed mutiny last month which aimed to topple Russias top brass.
I called a spade a spade, Major General Ivan Popov said in the message published on the Telegram messaging app by State Duma lawmaker and former military commander Andrei Gurulyov.
Popov said he was relieved of his role as commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army after reporting on the militarys problematic issues directly to the Defense Ministry.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/13/russian-general-slams-treacherous-top-brass-in-post-mutiny-audio-a81821
Yes, punish the people who tell you the truths you don't want to hear. That will certainly work out well in the endfor Ukraine!

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Blue_Thunder
07/13/23 10:01:16 AM
#359:


metallica846 posted...
https://twitter.com/endgameww3/status/1679174936500346880?s=46&t=IEiSqyrJQBDRX-hvnGwc-w

I am absolutely shocked and bewildered by this development.

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TheHorus
07/13/23 10:08:33 AM
#360:


YellowSUV posted...
Russia is probably going to try and stay in Ukraine as long as they possibly can. Once they leave, Ukraine is going to quickly join NATO and Russia's only realistic target for their next imperial invasion will be Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. Everywhere else they could invade will be under the NATO umbrella or under China's influence.

EDIT: Forgot Belarus, but they are already a Russian puppet state.

Yes, I think Russia's higher-ups said as much.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/28/putin-prepares-russia-for-forever-war-with-west-as-ukraine-invasion-stalls
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/putin-chooses-forever-war/622875/

Based on Russian history, the simple solution of Russia getting out of Ukraine wouldn't work. The leaders of Russia would probably get punished up to and including capital, physically if not politically.

https://time.com/6280869/vladimir-putin-russia-assassination/
Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin and Ivan the Terrible was allowed to pass away in their beds because they caused so much damage they were too fearsome for anyone to dare approach them. Putin hadn't reached their level of reputation yet.

Khrushchev got lucky that he was allowed to retire considering that he has failed and was overthrown after he risked nuclear war and delivered a national humiliation in the Cuba Missile Crisis though his successor Brezhnev did propose his assassination.

Putin's latest predecessors, Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin weren't killed since after the fall of the Soviet Union, they changed Russia to establish a democracy in Russia. They both have critcized Putin for attempting to return to the centrally-run political apparatus of the Soviet era. Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev probably died bitterly knowing what his country his doing. His friends and staff such as Alexei Venediktov and Pavel Palazhchenko stated the invasion upset him. It "destroyed his life's work" and left him psychologically traumatized. Boris Yeltsin would also probably hate what Putin is doing had he lived longer.

It seem like Valdmir Putin genuinely doesn't know how to handle defeat. This may be in part due to his upbringing. He worked as a KGB operative and said they are trained to always continue to pursue their objectives, rather than reassessing the goals in the first place.

Putin is afraid of his life and considering how there were attempts to end Putin's life even before Russia set foot in Crimera, his fear is justified.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3216011/russian-defector-says-putin-never-uses-mobile-phone-pathologically-afraid-his-life
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-afraid-life-death-russia-kremlin-defector-2023-lpgrpx8hm
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2023/04/06/vladimir-putin-fears-for-life/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-defector-putin-security-officer-1.6802984

If Russia were to get out of Ukraine then it is would be the end of Putin. The population of Russia has expressed their hatred of the invasion of Ukraine. Such as Wagner, Yevgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin, the civilians of Russia, Mikhail Gorbachev and presumably Boris Yeltsin if he were here.

The ideal scenario would be for Russia to leave Ukraine entirely and negotiate things out. No more death for anyone. But it's unlikely, too much blood has been spilled. Putin wouldn't be forgiven, he will never be forgiven. Forgiveness doesn't bring back the people whom died, the people who lost their limbs such as an eye, their foot, an arm, etc. It doesn't undo the destruction to property and equipment, such as the Kakhovka Dam. It doesn't restore the Kakhovka Reservoir. Maybe Russia would forgiven eventually as the United Kingdom, Germany, Japan, etc was seemingly forgiven and on good terms with at least the United States.

But the higher-ups such as Putin and his staff may face death.


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Takuya_Lee
07/13/23 10:15:10 AM
#362:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Right..."cancer.". Must be a new time that causes people to trip out windows.

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Kibouno
07/13/23 10:19:19 AM
#363:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Not sure what's going on with Prigozhin. Some doubt that he actually met Putin face to face.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/12/us-general-doubts-yevgeny-prizgozhin-is-alive/

Maybe they are hiding Prigozhin.
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ROBANN_88
07/13/23 5:07:31 PM
#365:


I just realised i haven't heard anything from the big propaganda folk like Solovyev and his cronies, basically since the Wagner assault.

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DarkChozoGhost
07/13/23 7:13:26 PM
#366:


What are the sites that have good current maps? I'm wondering what's going on around Pryvutine.

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derp420
07/13/23 7:21:21 PM
#367:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Right..."cancer.". Must be a new time that causes people to trip out windows.
I see no reason to disbelieve it. Polonium tea can have that effect on people.

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Humble_Novice
07/13/23 8:09:40 PM
#368:


https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/14xnu3g/russian_propagandists_making_an_antiukrainian/

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LaLeyenda
07/13/23 10:39:53 PM
#369:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/14xnu3g/russian_propagandists_making_an_antiukrainian/
Fake and gay.

wait.

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AOC
07/13/23 10:57:39 PM
#370:


Russia plans to build dozens of prison camps across Ukraine over the next few years, documents show, hinting Moscow's readying for a long war

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-plans-to-build-dozens-of-prison-camps-ukraine-civilians-2023-7?utm_source=reddit.com

Not sure if this has been discussed yet

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Humble_Novice
07/13/23 11:12:47 PM
#371:


AOC posted...
Russia plans to build dozens of prison camps across Ukraine over the next few years, documents show, hinting Moscow's readying for a long war

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-plans-to-build-dozens-of-prison-camps-ukraine-civilians-2023-7?utm_source=reddit.com

Not sure if this has been discussed yet
Then it had better prepare to lose even more.

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Zikten
07/13/23 11:20:47 PM
#372:


We have to make sure no republican gets back in the white house. Ukraine will get abandoned if that happens. The GOP wants to cut all support to Ukraine
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Quorthon109
07/13/23 11:25:00 PM
#373:


I remember when I respected Cornel West

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1679664290977005568

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BLooD_WoLf
07/13/23 11:38:40 PM
#374:


Quorthon109 posted...
I remember when I respected Cornel West

bill maher's panels used to be pretty based.

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Trelve
07/14/23 2:03:42 AM
#375:


https://youtu.be/ZZDTYHdmM0I

Slightly related: it's a video asking Russians on the street if they consider the UK to be their greatest enemy. It's a shame how so many have accepted Putin's propaganda and how they paint themselves as the victim in all this.
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SgtBash
07/14/23 7:27:43 AM
#376:


https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1679812828230713345

Uncle Fester has popped up

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ScazarMeltex
07/14/23 9:04:43 AM
#377:


Quorthon109 posted...
I remember when I respected Cornel West

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1679664290977005568
Anyone outside of Ukraine who calls for them to make territorial concessions can fuck right off. Especially in light of the horrific war crimes the Russians have committed in occupied territory.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/u-n-backed-investigation-finds-evidence-of-russian-war-crimes-in-ukraine

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Kibouno
07/14/23 9:09:26 AM
#378:


Thompson posted...
Yes, punish the people who tell you the truths you don't want to hear. That will certainly work out well in the endfor Ukraine!
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Questionmarktarius
07/14/23 10:37:00 AM
#379:


https://thehill.com/policy/international/4097275-putin-says-wagner-does-not-exist-after-meeting-with-prigozhin-commanders/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-wagner-boss-yevgeny-prigozhin-assassination-b2375111.html

Prigo likely window-tea'd.
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thronedfire2
07/14/23 10:38:42 AM
#380:


Quorthon109 posted...
I remember when I respected Cornel West

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1679664290977005568

is that averagejoel?

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Pitbuller_26
07/14/23 10:45:11 AM
#381:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Anyone outside of Ukraine who calls for them to make territorial concessions can fuck right off. Especially in light of the horrific war crimes the Russians have committed in occupied territory.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/u-n-backed-investigation-finds-evidence-of-russian-war-crimes-in-ukraine

This war has really exposed people who claim to be anti-imperialist or pacifist are actually just plain dumb. These types of people are saying Biden and the West are warmongering for WWIII...

People really choose to be ignorant to geopolitical issues when it comes to thr USA and its enemies.
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Questionmarktarius
07/14/23 10:48:31 AM
#382:


Pitbuller_26 posted...
This war has really exposed people who claim to be anti-imperialist or pacifist are actually just plain dumb. These types of people are saying Biden and the West are warmongering fot WWIII...
Appeasement strategies are catastrophic over the long term. It's like giving a kid candy after a tantrum, but the tantrum involves tanks and nukes.
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Lobinde
07/14/23 11:18:38 AM
#383:


Pitbuller_26 posted...
This war has really exposed people who claim to be anti-imperialist or pacifist are actually just plain dumb. These types of people are saying Biden and the West are warmongering for WWIII...

People really choose to be ignorant to geopolitical issues when it comes to thr USA and its enemies.
The actual problem is that most "anti-imperialists" are just anti-american imperialism. They don't mind or outright support imperialism when other, "non-western" countries do it.
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Kradek
07/14/23 11:32:09 AM
#384:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Next thing you know:

"The abdominal cancer appears to have compelled him out of a 4 story window, tragic, really"

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Humble_Novice
07/14/23 1:43:46 PM
#385:


https://twitter.com/IvanSemenovych/status/1677782310018482178

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Shadow_Don
07/14/23 1:49:17 PM
#386:


Quorthon109 posted...
I remember when I respected Cornel West

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1679664290977005568

What a fucking clown.

Even giving these dumbfucks an extreme degree of leeway or we even concede that NATO did provoke Russia, then why the fuck are their troops raping and murdering children?

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Kradek
07/14/23 2:01:08 PM
#387:


Shadow_Don posted...
What a fucking clown.

Even giving these dumbfucks an extreme degree of leeway or we even concede that NATO did provoke Russia, then why the fuck are their troops raping and murdering children?

Because those children are obviously Nazis, duh

/sarcasticputinpropaganda

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ROBANN_88
07/14/23 2:53:42 PM
#388:


Quorthon109 posted...
I remember when I respected Cornel West

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1679664290977005568

should i know who this is?

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Kibouno
07/14/23 5:20:12 PM
#389:


SgtBash posted...
https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1679812828230713345

Uncle Fester has popped up
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Questionmarktarius
07/15/23 1:27:23 AM
#390:


The fuck is going with Prigo and Wagner and Belarus and Russia?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/14/wagner-mercenaries-train-belarus-fighters/

Shit's changing like every fifteen minutes.
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Humble_Novice
07/15/23 5:56:26 AM
#391:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-general-outburst-earthquake-vladimir-103604574.html

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Nier
07/15/23 6:50:14 AM
#392:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-general-outburst-earthquake-vladimir-103604574.html
Here is more info about that Storm Shadow missile strike in the port city of Berdyansk:
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-killed-russia-general-with-storm-shadow-missile-reports-2023-7?amp

It seemed to have been launched from an aircraft in order to have longer range and it managed to killed the highest ranking officer yet, Lt. Gen. Oleg Tsokov.

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Questionmarktarius
07/15/23 6:58:53 AM
#393:


Berdiansk is outside the "Russian Ukraine" claim, and suggests Ukraine is strangling Crimea.
Fucking go!
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ROBANN_88
07/15/23 3:06:09 PM
#395:


according to Euromaidanpress (i don't know how trustworthy they are, they're obviously gonna be pro-ukrainian, but probably more believable than Russians)
now, Prigozhins media empire collapsed, all his propaganda trolls have been fired, and now they're singing like birds about their lies
https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/07/14/victims-of-donbas-genocide-were-paid-actors-prigozhins-fired-trolls-reveal/

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Humble_Novice
07/15/23 3:49:00 PM
#396:


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russias-economy-spiraling-state-car-004205022.html

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Foppe
07/15/23 5:44:03 PM
#397:


https://www.news24.com/fin24/economy/we-are-still-trying-to-persuade-putin-not-to-come-mashatile-20230714

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TheHorus
07/15/23 6:34:43 PM
#398:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russias-economy-spiraling-state-car-004205022.html
Lada Master Race. /s

Foppe posted...
https://www.news24.com/fin24/economy/we-are-still-trying-to-persuade-putin-not-to-come-mashatile-20230714
If you arrest Putin we will nuke you. - Russia, probably.

Guess they want him to come in person instead of doing a Skype call or something.

Sure are stuck in a damned if you do, damned if you dont situation. Wouldnt want to be them.

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Foppe
07/15/23 7:11:08 PM
#399:


It is like a bad parody.
Yo Putin, South Africa here, we are hosting the BRICS summit, do you want to come?
You do? Nice, bring some vodka with you!
...Yo Putin, it is South Africa again... We got a problem... Since you are a war criminal, we would be forced to arrest you the moment you leave the airplane... I know, I know, you were looking forward to BRICS, but I will be in shit up to my ears if you get here, so why cant you stay home this year?
...why?
You are a war criminal because you invaded Ukraine...
Alright, alright, it is a military operation, but you are still a war criminal, so please dont come.
Stop! What are you doing, Putin? Stap, dont come here!

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Takuya_Lee
07/15/23 7:14:33 PM
#400:


Kradek posted...
Next thing you know:

"The abdominal cancer appears to have compelled him out of a 4 story window, tragic, really"

Or " oh no! His cancer somehow produced 2 bullets in his head! How unforseen and tragic!"

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thronedfire2
07/15/23 8:11:16 PM
#401:


"It's a big dilemma for us. Of course, we cannot arrest him. It's almost like you invite your friend to your house, and then arrest them. That's why for us, his not coming is the best solution.

are they not familiar with the CIA?

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Sir_Will
07/15/23 8:44:23 PM
#402:


Then don't be friends with a war criminal.

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Foppe
07/16/23 1:13:22 AM
#403:


https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/14/europe/russia-andrey-troshev-wagner-intl/index.html

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