Current Events > Woman calls men in their late 30s/40s who date women in 20s gross

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Zonbei posted...

Oh lord. Shut the fuck up with your incel cult nonsense.

Men in this thread are literally shamed for dating women in their mid 20's, and you want to put your hands on your ears?

A brainwashed incel spouting utter bullshit says what?

MyBirthRight posted...

Men in this thread are literally shamed for dating women in their mid 20's, and you want to put your hands on your ears?

I didnt state an opinion on that fact. Just you spouting red pill incel bullshit thats a wild overreaction to that fact.

pezzicle posted...

men only care about looks is hella insulting and real dumb

you might only care about looks but dont go around suggesting thats the case for everyone

Men and women are not the same
Both sexes look for different things and aspects in dating l, sex, relationships

Zonbei posted...

I didnt state an opinion on that fact. Just you spouting red pill incel bullshit thats a wild overreaction to that fact.

There are literally multiple people in this thread who have outright called men Creepy for wanting to date women younger than them

Hinakuluiau posted...

It's just creepy, regardless of gender or sexuality. Obviously there are exceptions where it works out and the couple is in a healthy place, but a lot of times it's obvious the older half has no game and gets put in their place by others their own age so they resort to younger people.
Typically the older one is someone who finally has something that makes them attractive to young people (alcohol, disposable income, own a home, etc.) because they couldn't date when they were younger because on an even ground it's revealed how shit their personality is.

A lot of times the older one is a guy who can't get a woman his own age. E.g.:
Divorced guy who suddenly goes for younger women because women his own age can see the red flags and won't put up with the BS
Late-bloomer types who are starting college later or their career was postponed, when women his own age have graduated and are a few years into their career, why date a guy who is studying for finals?
Rich guy who pays for stuff and expects sex in return because he doesn't want an equal partner but instead a fucktoy.
Etc.

Again, large age-gaps can be healthy and work out, but they get an automatic side-eye especially if the older person exclusively dates younger

Ninjaluver posted...

Nobody should be dating anybody 10+ years younger than them regardless of gender.

MyBirthRight posted...

Men and women are not the same
Both sexes look for different things and aspects in dating l, sex, relationships

And you can boil this down to a formula using pseudo psychology, mixed with a little misused evolutionary theory, and sell it back to guys as the 'reasons' they can't get dates?

Men and women want a variety of different things at a variety of different times. Sorry, but these YouTubers aren't guardians of the dating cheat codes, they are exploitative peddlers of bullshit.

Do you know how quickly people ditch those clowns once they do find a girl? And how embarrassed they feel to have taken them seriously?

MyBirthRight posted...

There are literally multiple people in this thread who have outright called men Creepy for wanting to date women younger than them

again, Im not refuting that. Im saying the red pill movement is harmful incel garbage and a massive overreaction to men being shamed for dating women younger than them.

I like tall, intelligent, funny women.

Clearly, something is going wrong. Help me, oh manosphere!

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Whereas poor men are just trying to find a suitable vessel for their 'legacy' (as one poster put it)

Man, two people liking each other is incredibly controversial.

As long as one person isn't in a position of power over the other, I can't imagine giving a fuck what or who two adults want to do.

MisterPengy posted...

Man, two people liking each other is incredibly controversial.

As long as one person isn't in a position of power over the other, I can't imagine giving a fuck what or who two adults want to do.

Leonardo Dicaprio should be legally barred from dating women under 35 according to Twitter and some users here lol

When I was in my 30s I dated a woman in her 20s, and I did it because I fell in love with her at first sight. Years later we're still married. If that grosses anyone out, well, that's their problem -- not ours.

MyBirthRight posted...

Men and women are not the same
Both sexes look for different things and aspects in dating l, sex, relationships

they literally dont.

they may order the traits in a different way but the effectively want the same thing out of a partner

the problem with your view is that it is like 45% accurate but you wholeheartedly assert that it is 100% accurate and everyone else is an idiot for not seeing it the way that you do. You also make vast leaps in logic to support your conclusion while taking any data that would support your narrative into consideration.

pretty much any study that you read will show that men want a kind, trustworthy, honest, funny, intelligent, attractive partner

and women want the same

your entire narrative is inaccurate.

this is an old study but the first and easiest to find. 2007

https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2019/1/30/men-and-women-want-mostly-the-same-thing-in-a-partner/

Imagine defending double standards as a man, Glad to see the majority here have common sense.

pezzicle posted...

they literally dont.

they may order the traits in a different way but the effectively want the same thing out of a partner

the problem with your view is that it is like 45% accurate but you wholeheartedly assert that it is 100% accurate and everyone else is an idiot for not seeing it the way that you do. You also make vast leaps in logic to support your conclusion while taking any data that would support your narrative into consideration.

pretty much any study that you read will show that men want a kind, trustworthy, honest, funny, intelligent, attractive partner

and women want the same

your entire narrative is inaccurate.

this is an old study but the first and easiest to find. 2007

https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2019/1/30/men-and-women-want-mostly-the-same-thing-in-a-partner/

Actions speak much louder than words lol

Aloc posted...

Actions speak much louder than words lol

you have any actual data to back up this apparent claim that men SAY they want all those things but only actually care about looks or you just talking out of your ass?

MrDrMan posted...

You cant say its ok to have an opinion sometimes and not ok to have an opinion at others.

Umm, actually, that's 100% completely OK.

MrDrMan posted...

You are a literal bot

You're the one who claimed an opinion can never be wrong.

MyBirthRight posted...

You can't use that argument to make the claim that a broke man is going to successfully maintain a long term relationship. Having no ambition and having a low paying job are not attractive traits to the opposite gender.

Inb4
"I didn't say that, but you said that $12 an hour, which isn't true for walmart because the pay is higher"

This is irrelevant. You can't use this as a point of contention, when having a job with low pay and no ambition or goals isn't going to be a primary attractor to women. A woman with options is going to look for someone better

I can because you clearly don't do any research. Walmart itself posts their wage rates.

MyBirthRight posted...

Fresh & fit are not losers. Myron and Fresh have had sex with women, have had relationships with women. They are a dating podcast that gives advice to men to make sure that they have their shit together in terms of financials, and how to treat certain situations

An incel is someone unable to have sex. You can still have sex, but have the ideology of traditional gender roles or a realistic approach to the opposite sex

https://youtube.com/watch?v=g0LTbwR--9c

Oh that reminds me of cougars like I mean there are some men prefer much older women while some of them did actually get married.

Cher
Demi Moore
Madonna
Mary Kay Letourneau
Brigitte Trogneux
etc

They're not much different from males after all they made their choice to marry someone they love.

MyBirthRight posted...

If a man wants a child, statistically it is better for him to have one with someone in their 20's, compared to someone in their 40's-50's. The exception of a few people giving birth at older ages is not the rule

Fresh & fit are not losers. Myron and Fresh have had sex with women, have had relationships with women. They are a dating podcast that gives advice to men to make sure that they have their shit together in terms of financials, and how to treat certain situations

An incel is someone unable to have sex. You can still have sex, but have the ideology of traditional gender roles or a realistic approach to the opposite sex

My guy, the moment you start defending/supporting Fresh & Fit is the moment you lose any and every argument.

I apologize for being here late, but this is definitely a certified CE topic.

JFC this is still going?

Revelation34 posted...

You're the one who claimed an opinion can never be wrong.

I can because you clearly don't do any research. Walmart itself posts their wage rates.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=g0LTbwR--9c

No, you can't because it's irrelevant to the overall point. Technicalities exist here and there but the overall theme is that having a low paying job and no motivation will not keep you with the opposite sex. Fixating on one point about Walmart doesn't debunk the fact that to keep and maintain relationships, being broke and having no motivation doesn't cut it.

You arguing and making the claim that broke people can maintain relationships with women at the same rate as successful men is bad faith.

Revelation34 posted...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=g0LTbwR--9c

Myron was literally a former FBI Agent. And even now, he makes a lot of Money, is Attractive, and tall. He has money. He has status. He has looks.

Prove that he's lying.

Ninjaluver posted...

My guy, the moment you start defending/supporting Fresh & Fit is the moment you lose any and every argument.

You literally argued that a 30 year old shouldn't date a 40 year old, and think me liking Fresh & Fit is worse?

Lolno.

Ninjaluver
Nobody should be dating anybody 10+ years younger than them regardless of gender.

Do you live in an alternate universe where Women in their early-mid 30's can't have a successful career, education, pay their own bills, or make their own decisions?

MyBirthRight posted...

No, you can't because it's irrelevant to the overall point. Technicalities exist here and there but the overall theme is that having a low paying job and no motivation will not keep you with the opposite sex. Fixating on one point about Walmart doesn't debunk the fact that to keep and maintain relationships, being broke and having no motivation doesn't cut it.

You arguing and making the claim that broke people can maintain relationships with women at the same rate as successful men is bad faith.

Myron was literally a former FBI Agent. And even now, he makes a lot of Money, is Attractive, and tall. He has money. He has status. He has looks.

Prove that he's lying.

how do you explain poor people who date? i too ignore whatever inconveniences me

Ninjaluver posted...

My guy, the moment you start defending/supporting Fresh & Fit is the moment you lose any and every argument.

I agree with you about this, but apparently you think my relationship with my fiance is somehow wrong, so you need to rethink your rigidity

MedeaLysistrata posted...

how do you explain poor people who date? i too ignore whatever inconveniences me

A Man who is broke can lie, sell the dream and promise a bunch of things. Or make claims to a lot of stuff he has. Wont mean much when she eventually finds out that the guy was lying to her all the time and is making sub 10k-20k a year and has no motivation to improve his situation. A decent looking woman who has options isn't going to settle with someone who has no motivation & broke on top of that

Even a man outright saying "I don't make much money" or "I have no job" at the start is going to turn off a lot of people.

MyBirthRight posted...

A Man who is broke can lie, sell the dream and promise a bunch of things. Or make claims to a lot of stuff he has. Wont mean much when she eventually finds out that the guy was lying to her all the time and is making sub 10k-20k a year and has no motivation to improve his situation. A decent looking woman who has options isn't going to settle with someone who has no motivation & broke on top of that

Even a man outright saying "I don't make much money" or "I have no job" at the start is going to turn off a lot of people.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/0/2/AAWjk4AAEkgW.jpg

codey posted...

That's such a nothing statement though because men and other men don't seek out all the same qualities and traits and neither do all women.

Redpill shit is especially stupid not because it claims men and women want different things, but because it claims "all men want this" and "all women want this" and then tries to teach losers how to get laid.

That's not what I said, I said generally.

This new age idea that men and woman are the same is just not true. We are not built the same, mentally and physically. Physically we are different from woman, and the way we think is also different from woman.

Men and woman don't seek out the same traits and qualities generally speaking. We are two different creatures.

Your hate for whatever red pill shit you are talking about is irrelevant to that. Pointing as such out also isn't some side "attack woman", "woman bad", "poor poor men" or whatever the spin is here with this "red pill" spin.

MyBirthRight posted...

You literally argued that a 30 year old shouldn't date a 40 year old, and think me liking Fresh & Fit is worse?

Lolno.

Do you live in an alternate universe where Women in their early-mid 30's can't have a successful career, education, pay their own bills, or make their own decisions?

Yes, it is worse. Much worse. I'd trust the intelligence of the average 9-year old more than I would trust the intelligence of someone who actually believes in anything they hear on Fresh & Fit.

Never said anything about women in their 30s not being able to do those things.

pezzicle posted...

they literally dont.

they may order the traits in a different way but the effectively want the same thing out of a partner

the problem with your view is that it is like 45% accurate but you wholeheartedly assert that it is 100% accurate and everyone else is an idiot for not seeing it the way that you do. You also make vast leaps in logic to support your conclusion while taking any data that would support your narrative into consideration.

pretty much any study that you read will show that men want a kind, trustworthy, honest, funny, intelligent, attractive partner

and women want the same

your entire narrative is inaccurate.

this is an old study but the first and easiest to find. 2007

https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2019/1/30/men-and-women-want-mostly-the-same-thing-in-a-partner/

I love how you just completely ignored this cause it very easily discredited your entire argument

bsp77 posted...

I agree with you about this, but apparently you think my relationship with my fiance is somehow wrong, so you need to rethink your rigidity

Fresh & Fit are the people who would defend your position of the age gap in relationships.

Incel. The topic.

Ninjaluver posted...

Fresh & Fit are the people who would defend your position of the age gap in relationships.

So what, most other people do as well. Tell me specifically what is wrong with my relationship with my fiance?

bsp77 posted...

So what, most other people do as well. Tell me specifically what is wrong with my relationship with my fiance?

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Do you actually believe the bolded part? Because if so......lol.

Ninjaluver posted...

Fresh & Fit are the people who would defend your position of the age gap in relationships.

So if they said murder is bad, and helping the poor is a good thing..., by default would you be for the opposite?

Finding a group of extremist or radicals arguing a stance does not magically mean everything those radicals ever say is wrong. Or that anyone who says anything that repeats those radicals must also agree with all the other shit the radicals say.

This mindset of treating any and all specific stances as a monolith to extreme or radicals parties is not a factual based conversation. If you wish to discredit something, actually discredit the actual stance. It's not by default invalid just because you can dog up some group who also said it.

Seriously, guys... stop kink-shaming people for wanting to date others of legal age.

Ninjaluver posted...

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Do you actually believe the bolded part? Because if so......lol.

Yes, I do. We have a large social group (30 to 40 people, almost all quite liberal), involving both her and my friends, as well our large families. Not a single person has an issue, and the few people that showed some concern that we simply might not be right for another, changed their tune upon seeing us together.

Do you actually interact with many people in real life? Certainly does not seem that way.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

how do you explain poor people who date? i too ignore whatever inconveniences me

He either ignores it or calls it an outlier/rarity and insists that his version is "the rule"

You all have some immense patience to continue trying to convince him of anything lol

asdf8562 posted...

So if they said murder is bad, and helping the poor is a good thing..., by default would you be for the opposite?

Finding a group of extremist or radicals arguing a stance does not magically mean everything those radicals is wrong. Or that anyone who says anything they say must also agree with all the other shit the radicals say.

This mindset of treating any and all specific stances as a monolith to extreme or radicals parties is an absurd mindset.

I only pointed out that this particular view is one of the extremist views they would defend. Believing that it's not creepy for someone to date someone 10+ years younger than them is definitely a small minority held viewpoint, i.e. extremist.

bsp77 posted...

Yes, I do. We have a large social group (30 to 40 people, almost all quite liberal), involving both her and my friends, as well our large families. Not a single person has an issue, and the few people that showed some concern that we simply might not be right for another, changed their tune upon seeing us together.

Do you actually interact with many people in real life? Certainly does not seem that way.

Correction:

Not a single person is willing to confront you on the issue*

That is very different. I probably also would not confront a family member or friend on the issue. It would be a very unproductive argument that would end up changing absolutely nothing. So, I'd be exactly like the people you're referencing.

Ninjaluver posted...

I only pointed out that this particular view is one of the extremist views they would defend. Believing that it's not creepy for someone to date someone 10+ years younger than them is definitely a small minority held viewpoint, i.e. extremist.

You believing it's extreme at all, is easily arguable to be an extreme stance. This all based on your general stance that ALL 10+ gaps are bad including 44/55 and 38/50.

Regardless, this mindset of treating any and all specific stances as a monolith to extreme or radicals parties is not a factual based conversation. If you wish to discredit something, actually discredit the actual stance. It's not by default invalid just because you can dig up some group who also said it.

Your position is also not a majority standpoint given basic history. You are mixing up your personal feelings with facts, while also falsely breaking things down into binary positions.

Ninjaluver posted...

I only pointed out that this particular view is one of the extremist views they would defend. Believing that it's not creepy for someone to date someone 10+ years younger than them is definitely a small minority held viewpoint, i.e. extremist.

are you only referring to the age brackets wherein the younger party is late teens/early twenties?

bc otherwise wtf is creepy about an ie: 54 year old dating a 44 year old?