Current Events > Woman calls men in their late 30s/40s who date women in 20s gross

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Ninjaluver posted...

Correction:

Not a single person is willing to confront you on the issue*

That is very different. I probably also would not confront a family member or friend on the issue. It would be a very unproductive argument that would end up changing absolutely nothing. So, I'd be exactly like the people you're referencing.

You don't actually answer questions.

bsp77 posted...

Tell me specifically what is wrong with my relationship with my fiance?

bsp77 posted...

Do you actually interact with many people in real life? Certainly does not seem that way.

You wish you had a life like I do

Ninjaluver posted...

I only pointed out that this particular view is one of the extremist views they would defend. Believing that it's not creepy for someone to date someone 10+ years younger than them is definitely a small minority held viewpoint, i.e. extremist.

It's really not. The majority of the people in this topic, myself included, have stated that they don't see a large age gap as a big deal. If both are consenting adults, the who the hell cares?

The ones insisting that all relationships with large age gaps are somehow creepy or predatory? Those are the extremists

NoxObscuras posted...

It's really not. The majority of the people in this topic, myself included, have stated that they don't see a large age gap as a big deal. If both are consenting adults, the who the hell cares?

The ones insisting that all relationships with large age gaps are somehow creepy or predatory? Those are the extremists

The people who are most likely to post their opinion and reply to this topic are the minority who feel like they have to defend this type of relationship dynamic.

Thus, the responses you'll get in this topic are going to be heavily skewed.

masterpug53 posted...

Y'know, I'm starting to think this MrDrMan ought to have his doctorate revoked.

>Insert a paragraph of drivel that ultimately boils down to "I personally find it icky / creepy and therefore it is wrong and ought to be illegal."

There, I saved you 21 new posts in this topic (1 for Ninja's weak-ass bullshit, 20 for CEmen rightfully ripping him apart over it).

I have to say I do find it very interesting that the side people are arguing may be prone to manipulation keeps trying to silence opinions. Very interesting indeed.

Awfully defensive for a group that supposedly believes theyre not doing anything wrong.

MyBirthRight posted...

You arguing and making the claim that broke people can maintain relationships with women at the same rate as successful men is bad faith.

Tbf, depending on how you are using the term broke, they can

MyBirthRight posted...

Myron was literally a former FBI Agent. And even now, he makes a lot of Money, is Attractive, and tall. He has money. He has status. He has looks.

Prove that he's lying.

Technically, you would have to prove hes telling the truth People can have those things and be a virgin Burden of proof is on you since youre trying to use him as a fact Not to mention you talking about it like its a fact, where Rev is only saying that its possible that the guy is lying

MyBirthRight posted...

A Man who is broke can lie, sell the dream and promise a bunch of things. Or make claims to a lot of stuff he has. Wont mean much when she eventually finds out that the guy was lying to her all the time and is making sub 10k-20k a year and has no motivation to improve his situation. A decent looking woman who has options isn't going to settle with someone who has no motivation & broke on top of that

Even a man outright saying "I don't make much money" or "I have no job" at the start is going to turn off a lot of people.

They shouldnt be lying in the first place At the same time, saying you dont make money or dont have a job isnt how you start a conversation. You can tell the truth without starting a conversation with that stuff

Ninjaluver posted...

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Do you actually believe the bolded part? Because if so......lol.

Why wouldnt he? My and my BFs family support our relationship, even with the age gap. My friends do, too Even in this very topic, I think most people understand that age-gap relationships are ok. Where are you getting thats its not ok?

NoxObscuras posted...

He either ignores it or calls it an outlier/rarity and insists that his version is "the rule"

People always do this Anytime anything doesnt fit their narrative, its alway the exception to the rule or the outlier When the fact is, it may very well be the truth, and they are the outlier or exception

Ninjaluver posted...

The people who are most likely to post their opinion and reply to this topic are the minority who feel like they have to defend this type of relationship dynamic.

Thus, the responses you'll get in this topic are going to be heavily skewed.

Starting to make more sense now. Any reality you don't like is a conspiracy lol.

bsp77 posted...

You don't actually answer questions.

You wish you had a life like I do

You'll notice I have answered questions. I have not answered certain questions that I already stated earlier in the topic I would not answer. Please see post #362. I'm not going to be a hypocrite by having the very argument I said I wouldn't have.

asdf8562 posted...

Starting to make more sense now. Any reality you don't like is a conspiracy lol.

That's all these people ever have.

If people had an issue with our relationship and thought she was somehow being manipulated, people would have had a talk with her, especially her parents. It never happened. Most people, especially the ones her age, say how cute we are. Cuz we are :)

Ninjaluver posted...

You'll notice I have answered questions. I have not answered certain questions that I already stated earlier in the topic I would not answer. Please see post #362. I'm not going to be a hypocrite by having the very argument I said I wouldn't have.

They are not truly open to discourse. Like Ive said before only one side is being hostile.

ai123 posted...

The world seems to be full of people who can't get dates for reasons that are entirely other people's fault.

Well glad it's not just me.

Legit
age/2 +7 is a remarkably decent rule

MrDrMan posted...

I have to say I do find it very interesting that the side people are arguing may be prone to manipulation keeps trying to silence opinions. Very interesting indeed.

Awfully defensive for a group that supposedly believes theyre not doing anything wrong.

"My opinions are being silenced!" ~ the kind of person who never in their life learned the value of knowing when to shut the fuck up.

Every. Single. Time.

pezzicle posted...

Legit
age/2 +7 is a remarkably decent rule

Id actually agree with that. Thats why my stance has always been 30 year olds should not be dating 20 years old. Someone being legal age does not make it ok by default.

Ninjaluver posted...

You'll notice I have answered questions. I have not answered certain questions that I already stated earlier in the topic I would not answer. Please see post #362. I'm not going to be a hypocrite by having the very argument I said I wouldn't have.

"Maturity, experience, power dynamics, manipulation"

That's all you have? I certainly have more experience, by a LOT, but that isn't only based on age. The other 3 aren't true at all. She was 28 when we started dating, so plenty mature and able to hold her own. Plus, we have about equal disposable income because of my child support.

masterpug53 posted...

"My opinions are being silenced!" ~ the kind of person who never in their life learned the value of knowing when to shut the fuck up.

Every. Single. Time.

Key words: Trying to silence. None of you are smart enough to silence me. You cant make a point without insulting.

Also the irony of you responding to that post by saying I need to shut up is comical. Proving me right.

Ninjaluver posted...

The people who are most likely to post their opinion and reply to this topic are the minority who feel like they have to defend this type of relationship dynamic.

Thus, the responses you'll get in this topic are going to be heavily skewed.

Or youre in the minority, and cant handle being in the minority

MrDrMan posted...

Awfully defensive for a group that supposedly believes theyre not doing anything wrong.

If you accuse someone of stealing when they didnt steal, they also get defensive So, when someone says my relationship bad just because my BF is more than 10 years older, Im going to defend my relationship, obviously

MrDrMan posted...

Id actually agree with that. Thats why my stance has always been 30 year olds should not be dating 20 years old. Someone being legal age does not make it ok by default.

When we started dating, we were literally one year outside that rule. Who cares?

bsp77 posted...

When we started dating, we were literally one year outside that rule. Who cares?

There are exceptions to any rule. You dont have to take it personally. As Ive said if the shoe doesnt fit then dont wear it.

Yall are so hostile to differing opinions that I can no longer assume youre acting in good faith.

Tbf, depending on how you are using the term broke, they can

A man who has a lot of money and career has a far bigger and better chance of getting women and maintaining relationships compared to a broke man who has nothing going for him and who has no drive.

Having a good job/career, looking good, making decent money, being able to talk to people, having ambition puts a man at a higher chance of attracting and maintaining relationships with higher quality women. This is because unlike the broke man, the higher quality guy has value. A person making 6 figures or even around that range will be looked on as more valuable than a janitor cleaning bathrooms.

Technically, you would have to prove hes telling the truth People can have those things and be a virgin Burden of proof is on you since youre trying to use him as a fact Not to mention you talking about it like its a fact, where Rev is only saying that its possible that the guy is lying

I literally don't need to prove shit, since Myron has gotten exposed for having a girlfriend/being in a relationship. And the woman has literally gone on his podcast

They shouldnt be lying in the first place At the same time, saying you dont make money or dont have a job isnt how you start a conversation. You can tell the truth without starting a conversation with that stuff

If a guy even hints he's broke/doesn't make money and doesn't want to change, he has no future with most women. If a person outright claims they have no job, that will be a turnoff.

Men and women are not the same. Women want a man who has his life together. Has Ambition, Goals. Makes money. Having these makes guys more attractive

MrDrMan posted...

There are exceptions to any rule. You dont have to take it personally. As Ive said if the shoe doesnt fit then dont wear it.

Yall are so hostile to differing opinions that I can no longer assume youre acting in good faith.

It is simple. When someone thinks I am manipulating my fiance, it is insulting. Somewhat insulting to me, but VERY insulting to her.

If someone says they wouldn't personally date someone that much younger, that is cool. When someone says it is always creepy when others do it, then that is clearly not.

"How you choose to live your life is creepy and should be illegal."
"Whoa bro chill out, I didn't mean it personally! Pretty sus that you're getting so defensive, lol."

This tactic is so transparent that countless small birds have brained themselves flying into it.

bsp77 posted...

It is simple. When someone thinks I am manipulating my fiance, it is insulting. Somewhat insulting to me, but VERY insulting to her.

If someone says they wouldn't personally date someone that much younger, that is cool. When someone says it is always creepy when others do it, then that is clearly not.

Ninjaluver is the only person I have seen say it is always creepy. I have consistently maintained it is not inherently wrong but it does raise an eyebrow which is somehow a controversial opinion.

You can do what you want but you cant tell everyone else how they have to feel about it. Thats life. I dont get why yall are so upset. If you are acting with good intentions then whatever everyone else says shouldnt even matter.

MrDrMan posted...

Ninjaluver is the only person I have seen say it is always creepy. I have consistently maintained it is not inherently wrong but it does raise an eyebrow which is somehow a controversial opinion.

You can do what you want but you cant tell everyone else how they have to feel about it. Thats life. I dont get why yall are so upset. If you are acting with good intentions then whatever everyone else says shouldnt even matter.

To be fair, I was only really arguing with Ninjaluver

masterpug53 posted...

"How you choose to live your life is creepy and should be illegal."
"Whoa bro chill out, I didn't mean it personally! Pretty sus that you're getting so defensive, lol."

This tactic is so transparent that countless small birds have brained themselves flying into it.

Yes, your tactic of arguing based on shit I never even said is completely transparent. Show me when I ever said it was creepy or illegal. You cant because you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.

MyBirthRight posted...

If a guy even hints he's broke/doesn't make money and doesn't want to change, he has no future with most women. If a person outright claims they have no job, that will be a turnoff.

Men and women are not the same. Women want a man who has his life together. Has Ambition, Goals. Makes money. Having these makes guys more attractive

You trying to describe women and their behaviour is like some medieval artist trying to draw an elephant from 5th hand descriptions.

The less you listen to these awful YouTubers, the more chance you have of meeting one in the wild.

bsp77 posted...

When we started dating, we were literally one year outside that rule. Who cares?

its more just about risk of creep then actual this is creepy imo

people can do what they want but Im 36 and Id never date anyone under probably 25/26 just due to the fact that Id very likely not fit into their life that well

I have a son. All my friends have kids. My sister has a daughter. We do kid shit. I go to bed by like 9pm every night. I own my home. I am saving for retirement. Im 10 years into my career.

is there a 22 year old that would fit into my life? I dunno, maybe. Somewhere? But I wouldnt be overly interested in looking for one since Id rather just date someone closer to me in age and where they are at in life

bsp77 posted...

To be fair, I was only really arguing with Ninjaluver

Thats understandable but a lot of people are just blindly bashing everyone who doesnt agree which isnt cool. I never called anyone in this topic creepy or told them to shut up or anything.

I could have and chose not to because its not cool. Some people here really need to grow the fuck up.

MrDrMan posted...

Yes, your tactic of arguing based on shit I never even said is completely transparent. Show me when I ever said it was creepy or illegal. You cant because you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.

Feel free to attempt to explain how 'raising eyebrows' in this context translates to anything other than creepy, immoral, or suspicious.

pezzicle posted...

its more just about risk of creep then actual this is creepy imo

people can do what they want but Im 36 and Id never date anyone under probably 25/26 just due to the fact that Id very likely not fit into their life that well

I have a son. All my friends have kids. My sister has a daughter. We do kid shit. I go to bed by like 9pm every night. I own my home. I am saving for retirement. Im 10 years into my career.

is there a 22 year old that would fit into my life? I dunno, maybe. Somewhere? But I wouldnt be overly interested in looking for one since Id rather just date someone closer to me in age and where they are at in life

Exactly. Nobody is saying it is always wrong but people are at different stages of life so its like why even put yourself in that scenario when there are so many other women out there?

I dont understand but Im not gonna instantly label someone a bad person because of it.

MrDrMan posted...

Exactly. Nobody is saying it is always wrong but people are at different stages of life so its like why even put yourself in that scenario when there are so many other women out there?

I dont understand but Im not gonna instantly label someone a bad person because of it.

what stage in life is a 25 year old in that it so much different from a 35 year old? Other than perhaps the 25 year old still being on their parent's insurance, how exactly are their lives, by default, demonstrably different?

What a shame to be so close to 500

masterpug53 posted...

Feel free to attempt to explain how 'raising eyebrows' in this context translates to anything other than creepy, immoral, or suspicious.

Raising eyebrows means it is POTENTIALLY creepy, immoral or suspicious. You are the one putting words in peoples mouths. If you have a problem with people finding stuff suspicious then I dont know what to tell you. Thats a personal issue.

pezzicle posted...

its more just about risk of creep then actual this is creepy imo

people can do what they want but Im 36 and Id never date anyone under probably 25/26 just due to the fact that Id very likely not fit into their life that well

I have a son. All my friends have kids. My sister has a daughter. We do kid shit. I go to bed by like 9pm every night. I own my home. I am saving for retirement. Im 10 years into my career.

is there a 22 year old that would fit into my life? I dunno, maybe. Somewhere? But I wouldnt be overly interested in looking for one since Id rather just date someone closer to me in age and where they are at in life

Yeah, I have 4 daughters. She has no interest in her own kids, but is loving falling into the stepmom role.

I am also more extroverted and act younger than I am, while she is more reserved. So it works from a lifestyle perspective.

MrDrMan posted...

Raising eyebrows means it is POTENTIALLY creepy, immoral or suspicious. You are the one putting words in peoples mouths. If you have a problem with people finding stuff suspicious then I dont know what to tell you. Thats a personal issue.

Sure, I can agree that it is suspicious, but no one thinks so once they know us. You are fine with what you are saying. That doesn't make me defensive.

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I also clearly made a distinction that after a certain point that didnt apply. Someone in their late 20s yes but I do find it wrong when someone is 40 dating a 21 year old. That is creepy.

MyBirthRight posted...

A man who has a lot of money and career has a far bigger and better chance of getting women and maintaining relationships compared to a broke man who has nothing going for him and who has no drive.

Having a good job/career, looking good, making decent money, being able to talk to people, having ambition puts a man at a higher chance of attracting and maintaining relationships with higher quality women. This is because unlike the broke man, the higher quality guy has value. A person making 6 figures or even around that range will be looked on as more valuable than a janitor cleaning bathrooms.

I literally don't need to prove shit, since Myron has gotten exposed for having a girlfriend/being in a relationship. And the woman has literally gone on his podcast

If a guy even hints he's broke/doesn't make money and doesn't want to change, he has no future with most women. If a person outright claims they have no job, that will be a turnoff.

Men and women are not the same. Women want a man who has his life together. Has Ambition, Goals. Makes money. Having these makes guys more attractive

It's sad really, because you've let YouTube grifters convince you that money is the best way to attract women. There's a very specific type of woman that values money and materialism above all else. And those aren't usually the ones that will stick around long term. There's always someone with more money than you.

Money can't buy you love

bsp77 posted...

Sure, I can agree that it is suspicious, but no one thinks so once they know us. You are fine with what you are saying. That doesn't make me defensive.

Im not talking about you being defensive. Im talking about the people calling names and telling people to shut up.

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Im not gonna explain shit that is common sense. Only on CE do people act like 25 year olds and 40 year olds do the same thing.

Go outside and touch grass.

MrDrMan posted...

Raising eyebrows means it is POTENTIALLY creepy, immoral or suspicious. You are the one putting words in peoples mouths. If you have a problem with people finding stuff suspicious then I dont know what to tell you. Thats a personal issue.

Prefacing those accusations with 'potentially' is, uh, not exactly the argument-ending gulf of difference you seem to think it is.

MyBirthRight posted...

A man who has a lot of money and career has a far bigger and better chance of getting women and maintaining relationships compared to a broke man who has nothing going for him and who has no drive.

Not always. If someone is in the same financial tier, or already loves them, or whatever, then it could be easy for them to be with the person that love. Not everyone cares about the other person having the most money or the best job Some women are even the breadwinners of some families

MyBirthRight posted...

Having a good job/career, looking good, making decent money, being able to talk to people, having ambition puts a man at a higher chance of attracting and maintaining relationships with higher quality women. This is because unlike the broke man, the higher quality guy has value. A person making 6 figures or even around that range will be looked on as more valuable than a janitor cleaning bathrooms.

Attracting someone, yes. But not always maintaining Since looks are usually the first thing people notice about you, it can help you attract people. Same with money, since you can flash around how much you make. Maintaining it takes more, though. If they rich/hot guy/girl is a jerk, some people wont stand for that and leave And many people would still date the janitor if he treated her with respect where the other guy didnt Though, the real problem is you listing people things like high quality woman

MyBirthRight posted...

I literally don't need to prove shit, since Myron has gotten exposed for having a girlfriend/being in a relationship. And the woman has literally gone on his podcast

Again, people can/will lie Thats the whole point Rev was trying to make

MyBirthRight posted...

If a guy even hints he's broke/doesn't make money and doesn't want to change, he has no future with most women. If a person outright claims they have no job, that will be a turnoff.

Men and women are not the same. Women want a man who has his life together. Has Ambition, Goals. Makes money. Having these makes guys more attractive

Again, most people dont start a conversation like, My name is _____. And I dont have a job.

And not all women are the same Some women just want a specific person, or something else. Some women are the breadwinners, and want a trophy husband. Not all women want the same thing, just like not all men want the same thing So, while some women want those things you listed, other might not care at all about them The problem is you are trying to group all/most women together when you shouldnt You also make them sounds like theyre all gold diggers

MrDrMan posted...

Im not gonna explain shit that is common sense. Only on CE do people act like 25 year olds and 40 year olds do the same thing.

After my divorce, my 40yo stupid self pretended I was 25 for 2 years. Most of my friends are 5 to 20 years younger.