Current Events > A woman mouthed "Help me" to a cop during a traffic stop

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-carolina-woman-mouthed-help-070417559.html

A South Carolina police officer is being praised for her attention to detail during a traffic stop that led to a shooting suspects arrest, according to authorities in North Myrtle Beach.

The police department recognized Officer Kayla Wallaces quick response in a Way-to-Go Wednesday Facebook post this week.

Wallace pulled over a white Jeep that ran a red light along US Highway 17 shortly before sunrise on May 28, according to the North Myrtle Beach Police Department.

While speaking with the female driver and male passenger, Wallace reportedly noticed the woman appeared distressed, according to authorities.

While the male passenger wasnt looking at the driver, the female silently mouthed help me repeatedly to Wallace, North Myrtle Beach Police spokesperson Pat Wilkinson said in a statement to CNN.

Taking note of the drivers discreet plea for assistance, Wallace removed the passenger from the Jeep and placed him in her patrol cars back seat.

The officer returned to speak with the woman who was driving. The woman frantically told Wallace that the man sitting in her police vehicle had just shot a person, according to authorities.

Soon afterward, dispatchers sent a radio alert for officers to be on the lookout for a vehicle recently involved in a shooting in Horry County.

The arrested passenger was identified as Collins Bates, who is accused of shooting someone outside a sports bar in Myrtle Beach on May 28, according to CNN affiliate WMBF.

CNN could not determine if Bates has legal representation.

Bates, 29, forced a woman to drive him away from the bar after the shooting, WMBF reported.

Due to Officer Wallace proactively patrolling the streets of North Myrtle Beach, even to the last 30 minutes of her shift, a suspect in a shooting was arrested and an unlawfully carried pistol was recovered underneath the suspects seat, the police departments Facebook post read.

The department congratulated the officer, who was sworn into service in 2021, for a great job.

Our department and our community is lucky to have Officer Wallace, the post read.

Horry County booking records showed Bates was being held without bond on charges of attempted murder, kidnapping and possession of a weapon during a violent crime.

Bates, who remained behind bars by Friday, is also charged with unlawful carrying of a pistol and possession of firearms and ammunition, according to booking information.

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@Vegy

ACAB though

Poorly posted...

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NGL that's what I read it as at first

Female cops are ok

It's good when people do their job :)

MorbidFaithless posted...

It's good when people do their job :)

Right? Isn't it nice to have a feel good story once in a while in between all our shootings...

MorbidFaithless posted...

It's good when people do their job :)

True. But its weight of the job that matters. Nothing you do in your job will ever compare to that cops action

Noname12 posted...

True. But its weight of the job that matters. Nothing you do in your job will ever compare to that cops action

Especially when the cops unjustly kill people.

YugiNoob posted...

Right? Isn't it nice to have a feel good story once in a while in between all our shootings...

This is technically also a story about a shooting

Ngl.
Thought this was a joke topic with a punch line.

Holy crud... can't believe the bravery of the woman to mouth those words or the cop being observant enough to pick up on it.

Seems like something from a show.

Requiem posted...

Ngl.
Thought this was a joke topic with a punch line.

Holy crud... can't believe the bravery of the woman to mouth those words or the cop being observant enough to pick up on it.

Seems like something from a show.

The notable thing here is the media making it a story. Its nice that this happened, but it shouldnt be considered as big a deal as it is. Especially when contrasted with how the media treats cases of police brutality. And unfortunately even simply pointing that out appears ungrateful in the eyes of some.

This is the sort of local news story Id expect to hear in Australia, where police misconduct isnt nearly as common.

Tyranthraxus posted...

This is technically also a story about a shooting

You're a mean one, mr. Tyranthraxus :<

I haven't read the replies. I am so confused.

The passenger was a killer? Why was this person in her car and how did she find out?

A respectable cop that did their job well and saved somebody, this is what we all want to see more of.

And of course this situation only happened at all because of a gun facilitating criminal activity.

MorbidFaithless posted...

It's good when people do their job :)

Yes. If only "to protect and serve" always came into play like this.

I wonder if it's even an official motto anymore?

But yes. This was a good thing, wtg unironically.

Noname12 posted...

True. But its weight of the job that matters. Nothing you do in your job will ever compare to that cops action

Meh.

Dark_Arbron posted...

The notable thing here is the media making it a story. Its nice that this happened, but it shouldnt be considered as big a deal as it is. Especially when contrasted with how the media treats cases of police brutality. And unfortunately even simply pointing that out appears ungrateful in the eyes of some.

This is the sort of local news story Id expect to hear in Australia, where police misconduct isnt nearly as common.

but its also not in the common United States. You believe its common because thats what the age of constant social media curated to your experience and beliefs do. Theres close to 150 million unique police contacts across the United States in a year. Even police shooting people is not common. You can average about 1000~ a year. 950~ were armed with a firearm or deadly weapon in the process of committing a violent felony
crimes. Now, every single shooting deserves to be dissected and asked if everything was done that we could do before It reached that point

The point Im trying to make is that its really not common at all. Police spend most of their time doing calls for service generated by citizens(NY times source from 2020).

Super_Slash posted...

I haven't read the replies. I am so confused.

The passenger was a killer? Why was this person in her car and how did she find out?

He carjacked a witness to the shooting as a getaway driver.

Noname12 posted...

but its also not in the common United States. You believe its common because thats what the age of constant social media curated to your experience and beliefs do. Theres close to 150 million unique police contacts across the United States in a year. Even police shooting people is not common. You can average about 1000~ a year. 950~ were armed with a firearm or deadly weapon in the process of committing a violent felony
crimes. Now, every single shooting deserves to be dissected and asked if everything was done that we could do before It reached that point

The point Im trying to make is that its really not common at all. Police spend most of their time doing calls for service generated by citizens(NY times source from 2020).

Ill elaborate, I meant police misconduct (especially against minorities) in general. Even if statistically it isnt common it still happens often enough and often without consequence that the undercurrent of racism in the US police is undeniable.

I still need to criticize police. I fucking need to. It's my whole world.

shnangyboos posted...

I still need to criticize police. I fucking need to. It's my whole world.

Everyone needs to. There are always better ways to do stuff. There are things that need to change in policing. Id fire a good chunk of my station. The reality is, the internet would hate any police replacement if they were abolished. Its anti establishment/authority stance

shnangyboos posted...

I still need to criticize police. I fucking need to. It's my whole world.

Being able to be critical of authority figures is the true definition of freedom.

Noname12 posted...

but its also not in the common United States. You believe its common because thats what the age of constant social media curated to your experience and beliefs do. Theres close to 150 million unique police contacts across the United States in a year. Even police shooting people is not common. You can average about 1000~ a year. 950~ were armed with a firearm or deadly weapon in the process of committing a violent felony
crimes. Now, every single shooting deserves to be dissected and asked if everything was done that we could do before It reached that point

The point Im trying to make is that its really not common at all. Police spend most of their time doing calls for service generated by citizens(NY times source from 2020).

I don't think anyone every really said seriously "all cops kill innocent people without trials"

Look at George Floyd for a minute. This was bad. It's already an outlier because Floyd died. But then the police department defended this, protecting not just Chauvin but the other police on the scene. They released a statement "man dies in medical episode in police custody" and then lied about the whole thing.

But George Floyd died, and this is where people miss the forest for the trees. Think about all the George Floyds we didn't hear about because they didn't die. Exact same situation, they just survived. We know knee-on-neck and other dangerous techniques were taught nationwide even if they weren't standard or employed by everyone.

This does not even begin to scratch the surface of brutality, and other shitty behaviors like civil asset forfeiture or how cops can basically destroy your property because of a search warrant and you have to pay to fix it even after they don't find anything or even if they went to the wrong house.

The system of policing in America empowers bullies to be bullies and you cannot fight back or seek legal restitution. Forget about homicide for a moment. There is a very wide breadth of injustice perpetrated by police to which there is no answer and no accountability. The fact that only 1000 people or something are killed doesn't mean shit.

Cop manages not to shoot unarmed victim while apprehending obvious criminal

There should be a parade

Tyranthraxus posted...

I don't think anyone every really said seriously "all cops kill innocent people without trials"

Look at George Floyd for a minute. This was bad. It's already an outlier because Floyd died. But then the police department defended this, protecting not just Chauvin but the other police on the scene. They released a statement "man dies in medical episode in police custody" and then lied about the whole thing.

But George Floyd died, and this is where people miss the forest for the trees. Think about all the George Floyds we didn't hear about because they didn't die. Exact same situation, they just survived. We know knee-on-neck and other dangerous techniques were taught nationwide even if they weren't standard or employed by everyone.

This does not even begin to scratch the surface of brutality, and other shitty behaviors like civil asset forfeiture or how cops can basically destroy your property because of a search warrant and you have to pay to fix it even after they don't find anything or even if they went to the wrong house.

The system of policing in America empowers bullies to be bullies and you cannot fight back or seek legal restitution. Forget about homicide for a moment. There is a very wide breadth of injustice perpetrated by police to which there is no answer and no accountability. The fact that only 1000 people or something are killed doesn't mean shit.

The thing is, police do face accountability. My state publishes every departments officer discipline in the state. It can be easy to pick out single instances in the media. It doesnt mean its the norm. Policing has changed a lot since before 90s Rodney king era even. Hell, even from George Floyd.

and the initial statements vague statements by a department are done like that for a reason. It isnt for an absolvement of an incident. Its because theres only preliminary officers. Ive been on a couple of them. It takes hours like past a half day. To get everybody of significance to start arriving and pulling cameras. It takes days for interviews and investigations. Sometimes weeks. I also know because when I was in a car accident I typed out several department wide emails about significant events. And all we know is a sentence at the time, so thats what we update with

How very telling that a cop actually doing their job is national news.

Noname12 posted...

The thing is, police do face accountability. My state publishes every departments officer discipline in the state. It can be easy to pick out single instances in the media. It doesnt mean its the norm. Policing has changed a lot since before 90s Rodney king era even. Hell, even from George Floyd.

Internal disciplinary actions don't really help victims unfortunately and in the event of something severe like termination, they can often get rehired in a different precinct. I mean just don't get how someone can look at the video of how they fucked up Afroman's house and then be like "that's okay because now they have to do a lot of paperwork"

This was pretty much a BTB legal search warrant where no one was injured. And it's precisely that it was BTB that makes it the problem.

Noname12 posted...

and the initial statements vague statements by a department are done like that for a reason. It isnt for an absolvement of an incident. Its because theres only preliminary officers. Ive been on a couple of them. It takes hours like past a half day. To get everybody of significance to start arriving and pulling cameras. It takes days for interviews and investigations. Sometimes weeks. I also know because when I was in a car accident I typed out several department wide emails about significant events. And all we know is a sentence at the time, so thats what we update with

There is no defending the Floyd notice. They either willfully lied or made zero effort to obtain details. That statement itself was only made because that shit was recorded and posted everywhere on the internet. As you said, these things take a long time. The fact that it was out in minutes means it was damage control.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Internal disciplinary actions don't really help victims unfortunately and in the event of something severe like termination, they can often get rehired in a different precinct. I mean just don't get how someone can look at the video of how they fucked up Afroman's house and then be like "that's okay because now they have to do a lot of paperwork"

This was pretty much a BTB legal search warrant where no one was injured. And it's precisely that it was BTB that makes it the problem.

There is no defending the Floyd notice. They either willfully lied or made zero effort to obtain details. That statement itself was only made because that shit was recorded and posted everywhere on the internet. As you said, these things take a long time. The fact that it was out in minutes means it was damage control.

If Im reading correctly, that user just said theyve been personally involved with the processes they are describing.

That is, theyre a cop.

With all due respect, I will now take any and all arguments they make in favour of police being accountable with a grain of salt. Especially since theyre posting on what is 99% likely to be an alt, implying their past account was suspended or banned for something.

But thats all conjecture on my part.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Internal disciplinary actions don't really help victims unfortunately and in the event of something severe like termination, they can often get rehired in a different precinct. I mean just don't get how someone can look at the video of how they fucked up Afroman's house and then be like "that's okay because now they have to do a lot of paperwork"

This was pretty much a BTB legal search warrant where no one was injured. And it's precisely that it was BTB that makes it the problem.

There is no defending the Floyd notice. They either willfully lied or made zero effort to obtain details. That statement itself was only made because that shit was recorded and posted everywhere on the internet. As you said, these things take a long time. The fact that it was out in minutes means it was damage control.

its been a couple years obviously I dont remember. But i I believe what you say and then it was wrong

Dark_Arbron posted...

If Im reading correctly, that user just said theyve been personally involved with the processes they are describing.

That is, theyre a cop.

With all due respect, I will now take any and all arguments they make in favour of police being accountable with a grain of salt. Especially since theyre posting on what is 99% likely to be an alt, implying their past account was suspended or banned for something.

But thats all conjecture on my part.

trust me thats for the best

Dark_Arbron posted...

If Im reading correctly, that user just said theyve been personally involved with the processes they are describing.

That is, theyre a cop.

With all due respect, I will now take any and all arguments they make in favour of police being accountable with a grain of salt. Especially since theyre posting on what is 99% likely to be an alt, implying their past account was suspended or banned for something.

But thats all conjecture on my part.

And you spell favor like a Brit. Why should we trust you? Huh? Answer yourself!

stage4saiyan posted...

And you spell favor like a Brit. Why should we trust you? Huh? Answer yourself!

I spell things how auto-correct wants me too.

I hate typing on a phone. @_@

Tyranthraxus posted...

I don't think anyone every really said seriously "all cops kill innocent people without trials"

Look at George Floyd for a minute. This was bad. It's already an outlier because Floyd died. But then the police department defended this, protecting not just Chauvin but the other police on the scene. They released a statement "man dies in medical episode in police custody" and then lied about the whole thing.

But George Floyd died, and this is where people miss the forest for the trees. Think about all the George Floyds we didn't hear about because they didn't die. Exact same situation, they just survived. We know knee-on-neck and other dangerous techniques were taught nationwide even if they weren't standard or employed by everyone.

This does not even begin to scratch the surface of brutality, and other shitty behaviors like civil asset forfeiture or how cops can basically destroy your property because of a search warrant and you have to pay to fix it even after they don't find anything or even if they went to the wrong house.

The system of policing in America empowers bullies to be bullies and you cannot fight back or seek legal restitution. Forget about homicide for a moment. There is a very wide breadth of injustice perpetrated by police to which there is no answer and no accountability. The fact that only 1000 people or something are killed doesn't mean shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c46_iL2QqOE

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