Current Events > Who has it worse, Superman or Batman

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Both lost their parents, but Clark lost his whole world.

But Clark has loving adoptive parents

Alfred is kind of a loving adoptive parent. Not even kind of.

On top of that he's stinking rich.

But Batman saw his parents gun downed right in front of him.

But Superman has his super powers to cope with

Batman is all alone. He has no one. Alfred doesn't count.

He has a whole ass Bat-family now.

Alfred doesn't count.

And yet he still feels alone and prefers to work alone. Dude is beyond depressed. He has it the worst.

Its definitely Bats. Clark isn't really familiar with the Kryptonians and usually ends up with loving parents and a successful relationship with Lois. Meanwhile Bruce watched his parents die right in front of him, has had multiple of his adopted children brutalised by his enemies and a lot of his love interests end up dead or as criminals. Doesn't help that he's spent most of his life keeping up appearances as a billionaire or doing batman stuff with few breaks.

Alfred doesn't count.

And why

And superman lost everyone before he could even meet them.

Superman kannot bone Lois unless she somehow gets powered up or he gets powered down.

I'm not sure how is that worse for Clark.
People who was a big part of your life is way more impactful than random million lives that you never know.

That is 100% subjective.

You can feel one or the other is worse, however it doesn't make it universally fact whichever you choose for everyone else.

Stealing the words from another user in a different topic, it may be objective within you and others who think like you code of morality, ethics and beliefs. It however is not objective outside whatever principle of beliefs you have.

What's sad to you, may not be as sad to someone else.

Of course it's subjective.
In the case of Clark and Bruce, the death of Bruce's parents made him into Batman, but the not the same Clark.
It's the living (foster) parents that made Clark into Superman, not the death of them.

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Also for the record, it can also be argued Superman losing his parents shaped him as well. If he was never shipped to earth due to his parents tragedy, his story would be a lot different.

No it does not.
It doesn't shape him, Ma and Pa Kent's raising him does. They have no role in making his personality the way he is. That's why many alternate evil Superman has the story started with "what if other people found the pod?'

You missed my point. His adoptive parents is irrelevant to if he never lost his biological parents or his people in the first place.

In fact it's entirely irrelevant to the main point of trying to quantify trauma lol.

Superman definitely has it worse.

If he hears a person in peril and can't do anything to help them because he's busy helping someone else, he has to live with that.

How the fuck it's irrelevant?
Losing the parents are literally the trauma that creates Batman. Superman didn't lost the parents that raised him. The biological parents never spent any second raising Clark into the man he is.

You're downplaying the emotional damage of losing the people close to you.

I don't care about your argument claiming it shaped Batman. It's irrelevant to my point that it's a ridiculous angle to claim one is worse than the other.

Then why the fuck are you in this topic?

For the reasons I just said.

It's ridiculous to quantify emotional trauma. People don't even react and process the same exact events the same, let alone trying to quantify different events.

Even in real life, you can do the same. I've lost both of my parents that i loved so much, but i can say that the guy who had his wife brutally murdered in front of him had it worse than me.

That's you lol.

You can't speak for anyone else and how they feel, and which they find to be worse.

What hurts you emotionally and how much is only objective to you and your feelings. It's not objective to all. Regardless how strongly you feel about it.

Are you incapable of empathy?
You can feel other people's subjective emotions.

Superman definitely has it worse.

If he hears a person in peril and can't do anything to help them because he's busy helping someone else, he has to live with that.

He saves them both. That's kind of the defining quality of Superman, though all the edgelords trying g to make him into a gritty dark hero seem to miss that point.

Batman creates his own problems to fuel his hobby of beating up poor people.

Batman's problems are entirely self inflicted because he chooses to do stupid ass cape shit as a substitute for real therapy.