Current Events > Anyone who says "no one wants to work anymore"

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Should be fucking slapped. Stop falling for corporate propoganda and then regurgitating it to the low paid worker who just explained to you why there is a wait for a table.

Yes many people are unwilling to work in shit conditions, for shit pay for shit people serving shit customers.

Maybe treat us better and we will want to work.

Cut executive compensation vastly, ban or deeply regulate buybacks and give us all better sick leave, vacation time, don't open before sunrise or close late night(and if you do give us hazard pay for fucking our sleep), give us functional equipment, higher pay, give us more room to push back on shit customers and stop having skeleton crews as standard even when staff is availble. Also close down when there is severe weather and power outages.

Oh and restrict catering orders, and custom orders more, and let us remove items temporaily from online ordering at the store level. I am sick of running out of something and still getting orders for it online.

Not reading your post. Most people don't want to work they need the money though.

I don't want to work anymore

if you could just afford everything would you still want to work?

they just wanna bang on the drums all day

Fluttershy posted...

if you could just afford everything would you still want to work?

This is an absolute nothing post. Afford it how? What exactly is the context here?

Same shit, different decade.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/5/6/AAdkcxAAEgwk.jpg

How about those lazy entitled arseholes of the late 19th Century, eh? Too busy eating avocado on toast and drinking lattes to work, no doubt.

This is an absolute nothing post. Afford it how? What exactly is the context here?

answer the fucking question!!!!!

I think the nobody wants to work anymore crowd and the no, nobody wants to work for you crowd are both wrong because theyre operating under the questionable assumption that anyone ever wanted to work in the first place.

100%. Owning a business does not entitle you to other people's labor at whatever wage you want to offer. There will be people willing to do the job you're asking them to do if you pay them enough. If you can't or won't pay that much then you have a flawed business model.

ai123 posted...

How about those lazy entitled arseholes of the late 19th Century, eh? Too busy eating avocado on toast and drinking lattes to work, no doubt.

Back then it was rye liquor and moving pictures. The rich considered nickelodeons and early movie theaters to be seedy dens of ill repute, with stage theater being the only respectable outlet.

Not sure why people are being snarky with TC, and his OP.
A lot of what he said makes sense.

Also, some people really don't mind working, they just want to feel valued, that's part of the promise.

~Anyway, America was largely built on slave labor, and we've just shrouded that a little with certain regulations. But the business owners have the clout. That and the American labor force has had their civil rights bred out of them. Many people don't know their own worth, and business owners exploit that.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/8/AAQ1tkAAEgww.jpg

People need to stop saying people wanna work for more money! Truth is, nobody wants to work, even in good conditions. I myself am one of those. I dont wanna work, but alas I need to feed my video game addiction (and myself lol).

So yea, stop being so high and mighty. People dont wanna work, its okay to admit that.

those who usually say that are employers who love to exploit others by making them work overtime and paying them shit salaries...

nobody wants to work for you? well boo fucking hoo!

I would question the necessity of "anymore".

There's definitely an extraordinary lack of new applicants since Covid hit, and it has not recovered at all. Though I'd say the biggest problem in this area is people getting priced out and people grabbing up land to build more ugly "luxury" condos that will probably go right up on Airbnb.

Nemu posted...

There's definitely an extraordinary lack of new applicants since Covid hit, and it has not recovered at all. Though I'd say the biggest problem in this area is people getting priced out and people grabbing up land to build more ugly "luxury" condos that will probably go right up on Airbnb.

Airbnb absolutely needs to be banned.

Also property taxes should punish owning many properties AND charging rent higher then normal.

People who buy many homes should be paying more per home in taxes. While single home owners for normal homes should be charged far less(also sports stadiums, golf clubs etc should pay far higher property tax rates)

R1masher posted...

they just wanna bang on the drums all day

lmao

Dire Straits - Money For Nothing
https://youtu.be/wTP2RUD_cL0

ai123 posted...

Same shit, different decade.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/5/6/AAdkcxAAEgwk.jpg

How about those lazy entitled arseholes of the late 19th Century, eh? Too busy eating avocado on toast and drinking lattes to work, no doubt.

The funny thing is, the biggest pushers of that narrative are backers of objectively the laziest president this country has ever had. They're backers of a man who's never done a full day's work in his life, lived most of his life in a gold tower, and doesn't know how grocery stores work because other people have always bought his food for him.

But apparently you have to be a racist and/or a winner of the vagina lottery for this life of brazen idleness to be acceptable.

I also don't believe most people want to sit on their asses all day like that man does, no matter what they say. I believe they want time for themselves and for the work that they do to MATTER in some way, as in it has some kind of meaning other than making more money for some soulless suit hundreds of miles away from them. Most people would be overjoyed to do a few hours of work a day, they just don't want their entire day to be consumed by it, and that merely for the purpose of staying alive just to do more of this monotonous work and being told that wanting to do less, wanting to be able to travel, wanting time to explore their hobbies, etc. is lazy and ungrateful to their bosses, who do not work themselves and are so kind as to pay their workers pennies on the dollar for what their labor is worth.

Ugh, the head of our Customer Service department said this at a meeting earlier this week. They're unable to keep employees. Other parts of the company doing shittier jobs are able to keep folks around though. I suggested that other departments retained employees through magic. She did not like my joke.

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

Yes many people are unwilling to work in s*** conditions, for s*** pay for s*** people serving s*** customers.

For most jobs or industry's outside of tech that's completely unavoidable with no solution barring them becoming fully automated.

And if said people arent willing to put of with that then.....I hope it works out for them.

Prismsblade posted...

For most jobs or industry's outside of tech that's completely unavoidable with no solution barring them becoming fully automated.

And if said people arent willing to put of with that then.....I hope it works out for them.

Shit pay is fairly easy to fix for many companies. Stop buybacks and slash executive compensation massively. Use that money on wages.

Cobditions can inprove too and better pay/sick leave and such help that.

Customers is the hardest one

There's always the insinuation that until you've suffered enough as much as the previous generation, you haven't earned anything.

Just because I get to roll out of bed at 9:00 a.m. and work from home doesn't mean I've worked any less hard than you.

Its so true. The narrative was very strongly accepted as nobody wants to work for a long time, but specially during the pandemic. Recently, its shifted to nobody wants to pay, because that the truth.

The store will have twenty people on payroll, but only allow two people on the floor because it saves them money. So it puts the worker in an outright abusive and sometimes unsafe situation and it gives the customer a horrible experience. But its all work it because the CEOs are getting record profits every month. When corporations make record profit and the workers are struggling, thats our countrys definition of a good economy, so we cant expect any help from the government.

Is anyone else here a victim of wage theft from a larger corporation? Because I definitely am. Work has become so sadistic and abusive that I honestly dont want to work ANY job. I want to retire and get UBI and basically just stay out of trouble. This is what they have pushed us to and I certainly will not accept my role as a modern slave to make the rich more money.

mercurydude posted...

The funny thing is, the biggest pushers of that narrative are backers of objectively the laziest president this country has ever had. They're backers of a man who's never done a full day's work in his life, lived most of his life in a gold tower, and doesn't know how grocery stores work because other people have always bought his food for him.

But apparently you have to be a racist and/or a winner of the vagina lottery for this life of brazen idleness to be acceptable.

I also don't believe most people want to sit on their asses all day like that man does, no matter what they say. I believe they want time for themselves and for the work that they do to MATTER in some way, as in it has some kind of meaning other than making more money for some soulless suit hundreds of miles away from them. Most people would be overjoyed to do a few hours of work a day, they just don't want their entire day to be consumed by it, and that merely for the purpose of staying alive just to do more of this monotonous work and being told that wanting to do less, wanting to be able to travel, wanting time to explore their hobbies, etc. is lazy and ungrateful to their bosses, who do not work themselves and are so kind as to pay their workers pennies on the dollar for what their labor is worth.

Saw a meme making fun of our shitty timeline, where it's we are working ourselves to the bone for less and less while we develop AI that is getting to do all the fun shit like sit around and do art and make poetry and shit. lol

Boomer that supported a 5 person family unit, 2 cars and a mortgage on a single income without a university degree in a middle management office job:

"Just walk into businesses and hand them your resume, make sure you have a nice firm handshake."

pinky0926 posted...

Boomer that supported a 5 person family unit, 2 cars and a mortgage on a single income without a university degree in a middle management office job:

"Just walk into businesses and hand them your resume, make sure you have a nice firm handshake."

This

ironman2009 posted...

I don't want to work anymore

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/1/AAfRsCAAEgcB.jpg

Boomers keep lecturing on their experiences in the workforce when they are simply not relevant anymore.

You paid pennies on the dollar for college compared to everyone that came after you. If you even went at all.

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

Should be fucking slapped. Stop falling for corporate propoganda and then regurgitating it to the low paid worker who just explained to you why there is a wait for a table.

Yes many people are unwilling to work in shit conditions, for shit pay for shit people serving shit customers.

Maybe treat us better and we will want to work.

Cut executive compensation vastly, ban or deeply regulate buybacks and give us all better sick leave, vacation time, don't open before sunrise or close late night(and if you do give us hazard pay for fucking our sleep), give us functional equipment, higher pay, give us more room to push back on shit customers and stop having skeleton crews as standard even when staff is availble. Also close down when there is severe weather and power outages.

Oh and restrict catering orders, and custom orders more, and let us remove items temporaily from online ordering at the store level. I am sick of running out of something and still getting orders for it online.

100% this

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

Shit pay is fairly easy to fix for many companies. Stop buybacks and slash executive compensation massively. Use that money on wages.

Cobditions can inprove too and better pay/sick leave and such help that.

Customers is the hardest one

I rarely see or hear about this behavior outside the usual mega large tech companies in the white collar industry.

It's mostly the blue collar ones that are having trouble in this regard.

The vast majority of people don't want to work though. I don't want to fucking work, but the lifestyle I enjoy requires money.

ai123 posted...

Same shit, different decade.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/5/6/AAdkcxAAEgwk.jpg

How about those lazy entitled arseholes of the late 19th Century, eh? Too busy eating avocado on toast and drinking lattes to work, no doubt.

There's a (new?) Synchrony ad on Hulu with multiple iterations of a guy, the final being the smart one that is rich because he used Synchrony - he's making avocado toast. I want to think it's being tongue in cheek, but christ is it just ugh.

Either way, terrific picture every time.

if you could afford a house a car and a wife and a couple of kids on one salary as you could back then people wouldnt mind working salaries havent inflated with the economy

Prismsblade posted...

I rarely see or hear about this behavior outside the usual mega large tech companies in the white collar industry.

It's mostly the blue collar ones that are having trouble in this regard.

The only real difference is whose pockets the money is going into. I work for a worldwide privately owned manufacturing company. We don't have shareholders or a company that owns us. Just one dude, who inherited it from his brother, who inherited it from their dad. They've done nothing but cut benefits (some of which had been in place for 40 years) and then complain because turnover rate is something like 50% for new employees in the first 6 months.

It's a non union, non airconditioned, factory job just outside of Saint Louis. If you want people to do hard, tiring, and occasionally dangerous physical labor you are going to have to fucking pay them for it.

Any more? I think the majority of people through history have worked out of necessity rather than enjoyment or wanting to.

Not that I'm saying it's impossible to enjoy work. I love my job honestly, but if I could get by without it I would likely drop it in an instant and just pursue my hobbies.

CADE_FOSTER posted...

if you could afford a house a car and a wife and a couple of kids on one salary as you could back then people wouldnt mind working salaries havent inflated with the economy

Basically this. I dont even mind having to work (but dont get me wrong, if given the option to not work, I would take it in a heartbeat lol) but what I have an issue with is that so much time is already spent at work, and I cant even afford to buy a house or have a family.

Its disgusting.

ai123 posted...

Same shit, different decade.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/5/6/AAdkcxAAEgwk.jpg

How about those lazy entitled arseholes of the late 19th Century, eh? Too busy eating avocado on toast and drinking lattes to work, no doubt.

omg im saving this

Avocado toast isnt even an expensive meal.

Where I live you can get a bag of 5 avocados for $2.74 and a loaf of sliced italian/french/sourdough for $3-5. I even eat it with a sunnysideup egg on top!

deoxxys posted...

Avacado toast isnt even an expensive meal.

Where I live you can get a bag of 5 avacados for $2.74 and a loaf of sliced italian/french/sourdough for $3-5. I even eat it with a sunnysideup egg on top!

This. I'm not sure why avocado toast caught so much shit. I don't even care for it but it's not like it's a luxurious extra expensive breakfast.

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

Customers is the hardest one

It's easy, you stop putting up with their shit.
But it has to be across the board. Rich and Poor.

Yesterday when I was out eating at a restaurant, they had a job posting there and said they wanted minimum 2 years experience for a fucking BUSSER. It's not that nobody wants to work, employers make it really hard to find work with ridiculous expectations.

SiO4 posted...

It's easy, you stop putting up with their shit.

Not so easy when management caters to their every whim and you basically have to take all the shit that customers give you and grin and bear it.