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SBAllen 05/16/23 1:48:03 PM #1:	Howdy all. Since the announcement is a little bit vague (as corporate announcements tend to be), I just wanted to hop in and chime in a bit more casually about why the board was closed. The primary reason for the closure was an attempt to help align all of Fandom's newly acquired brands with the existing community guidelines that they already have for Fandom.com. Political boards on other brands like GameSpot were also shut down as well. Generally, Fandom attempts to prevent communities being built specifically about politics. You can see an exerpt from here: https://www.fandom.com/community-creation-policy "Wikis whose main purpose is to represent a political party, advocate for or against a political ideology, or generally opine regarding political issues;" I originally had some hesitation about this idea when it was first brought up, but to be honest, board 261 was by far the biggest drain on our moderator resources across the whole site, and one of the boards that garnered the most complaints from users. In the end, I do agree that it makes sense not to have a board that specifically caters to one of the most notoriously divisive conversational topics known to man. By removing the board, we are actually helping the mod team as well. Does this mean that boards like CE are also on the chopping block? Not at all. There are occasional political topics here, but this board is mostly just a hub to discuss anything and everything. We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version. --- "Um, let's face it, you'd be better off staying at the Hilton." http://facebook.com/GFAQS \| http://twitter.com/GameFAQs <cite>SBAllen posted [p:973505547] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Howdy all. Since the announcement is a little bit vague (as corporate announcements tend to be), I just wanted to hop in and chime in a bit more casually about why the board was closed.The primary reason for the closure was an attempt to help align all of Fandom's newly acquired brands with the existing community guidelines that they already have for Fandom.com. Political boards on other brands like GameSpot were also shut down as well.Generally, Fandom attempts to prevent communities being built specifically about politics. You can see an exerpt from here: https://www.fandom.com/community-creation-policy"Wikis whose main purpose is to represent a political party, advocate for or against a political ideology, or generally opine regarding political issues;"I originally had some hesitation about this idea when it was first brought up, but to be honest, board 261 was by far the biggest drain on our moderator resources across the whole site, and one of the boards that garnered the most complaints from users. In the end, I do agree that it makes sense not to have a board that specifically caters to one of the most notoriously divisive conversational topics known to man. By removing the board, we are actually helping the mod team as well.Does this mean that boards like CE are also on the chopping block? Not at all. There are occasional political topics here, but this board is mostly just a hub to discuss anything and everything. We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ironman2009 05/16/23 1:48:38 PM #3:	Sticky requested --- THRILLHO <cite>ironman2009 posted [p:973505562] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Sticky requested</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyQueen 05/16/23 1:49:26 PM #4:	dismissive wank --- "I like to smell other people's farts" -k1zzl3_82 https://i.imgur.com/BQTuf1F.jpeg <cite>HairyQueen posted [p:973505591] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>dismissive wank</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aztex 05/16/23 1:49:30 PM #5:	So the mods didn't want to do, what they signed up to do? --- Hot Girls Message Board https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1291-hot-girls <cite>Aztex posted [p:973505593] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>So the mods didn't want to do, what they signed up to do? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JMPzero 05/16/23 1:49:35 PM #6:	It'll be fine --- https://www.twitch.tv/jmpzero <cite>JMPzero posted [p:973505595] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>It'll be fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FactsKeepHurtin 05/16/23 1:49:36 PM #7:	Waiting for the crying 261stans <cite>FactsKeepHurtin posted [p:973505596] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Waiting for the crying 261stans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 05/16/23 1:50:13 PM #8:	Keep it at 50 karma. No need to test anything. Thanks. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:973505612] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Keep it at 50 karma. No need to test anything.Thanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 05/16/23 1:50:14 PM #9:	SBAllah has spoken. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:973505614] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>SBAllah has spoken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/16/23 1:50:26 PM #10:	SBAllen posted... We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure why temporary? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:973505619] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>SBAllen posted... </cite><quote>We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure</quote>why temporary?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrCokeacola 05/16/23 1:50:26 PM #11:	Great news, a children's video game message boards has no need for such discussions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRiPVYnCLFU --- Video game hardware should be seen, but not played. <cite>MrCokeacola posted [p:973505620] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Great news, a children's video game message boards has no need for such discussions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRiPVYnCLFU</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 05/16/23 1:50:27 PM #12:	HairyQueen posted... dismissive wank With an extra Fuck Fandom. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:973505622] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>HairyQueen posted... </cite><quote>dismissive wank</quote>With an extra Fuck Fandom. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 05/16/23 1:50:31 PM #13:	closing 261 was bullshit. should have just raised the karma limit to 250 or something. we should at least have access to the archived topics at the least --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:973505624] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>closing 261 was bullshit. should have just raised the karma limit to 250 or something. we should at least have access to the archived topics at the least </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Curtains313 05/16/23 1:50:51 PM #14:	I did it for the mods --- http://i.imgur.com/IKWeSI4.jpg <cite>Curtains313 posted [p:973505633] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>I did it for the mods</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 05/16/23 1:50:55 PM #15:	SBAllen posted... We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version. Raise it even higher --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:973505635] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>SBAllen posted...</cite><quote>We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version.</quote>Raise it even higher</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 05/16/23 1:51:02 PM #16:	popcorn --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:973505639] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>popcorn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronWolf87 05/16/23 1:51:02 PM #17:	Can you confirm or deny my theory that the politics board was like 10 users and their army of alts arguing with one another? <cite>IronWolf87 posted [p:973505640] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Can you confirm or deny my theory that the politics board was like 10 users and their army of alts arguing with one another?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KhlavicLanguage 05/16/23 1:51:13 PM #19:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] <cite>KhlavicLanguage posted [p:973505648] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcoRubio 05/16/23 1:51:37 PM #20:	Raising the user level was the key move. Thank you. --- She/Her <cite>MarcoRubio posted [p:973505663] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Raising the user level was the key move. Thank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 05/16/23 1:51:58 PM #21:	Tyranthraxus posted... Keep it at 50 karma. No need to test anything. Thanks. This, sincerely. Maybe upping the alt threshold to 2 months will finally deter the frequently banned from returning --- If it was about babies we'd have universal maternal care. There would be no charge no matter how complex the delivery. But its not about babies, is it? <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:973505671] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite><quote>Keep it at 50 karma. No need to test anything.Thanks.</quote>This, sincerely. Maybe upping the alt threshold to 2 months will finally deter the frequently banned from returning</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 05/16/23 1:52:02 PM #22:	Aztex posted... So the mods didn't want to do, what they signed up to do? --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:973505673] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Aztex posted... </cite><quote>So the mods didn't want to do, what they signed up to do?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 05/16/23 1:52:19 PM #23:	So CE will become 261. Have fun enforcing that. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:973505676] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>So CE will become 261. Have fun enforcing that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/16/23 1:52:20 PM #24:	I for one concur that the most horrible thing that can happen on my favorite FANDOM Brand intellectual properties is discussion that pertains to the material reality of the real world, as opposed to the unthreatening escapism that my favorite FANDOM Brand intellectual properties are all about. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:973505677] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>I for one concur that the most horrible thing that can happen on my favorite FANDOM Brand intellectual properties is discussion that pertains to the material reality of the real world, as opposed to the unthreatening escapism that my favorite FANDOM Brand intellectual properties are all about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/16/23 1:52:24 PM #25:	It's your choice, not mine. Personally I feel having a board just for politics and political discussion is a good idea. To have most if not all the discussions there and only there. Regardless of how people think of the board it was better to have a place to go and discuss. I think this was a mistake. That is all. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) <cite>creativerealms posted [p:973505679] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>It's your choice, not mine. Personally I feel having a board just for politics and political discussion is a good idea. To have most if not all the discussions there and only there. Regardless of how people think of the board it was better to have a place to go and discuss. I think this was a mistake.That is all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Avirosb 05/16/23 1:52:36 PM #26:	Pfft, yeah right, as if politics don't pop up constantly on the gaming boards. Who here is old enough to remember "gamergate"? --- "Fast X"??? Fast & Fur10us was right there, man <cite>Avirosb posted [p:973505685] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Pfft, yeah right, as if politics don't pop up constantly on the gaming boards.Who here is old enough to remember "gamergate"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pikachuchupika 05/16/23 1:52:45 PM #27:	SBAllen posted... There are occasional political topics here, but this board is mostly just a hub to discuss anything and everything. What happens when a lot of the topics become political because of a current event causing a lot of discourse? Or what happens when there is a lot of toxicity from the occasional political topic? <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:973505689] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>SBAllen posted... </cite><quote>There are occasional political topics here, but this board is mostly just a hub to discuss anything and everything.</quote>What happens when a lot of the topics become political because of a current event causing a lot of discourse? Or what happens when there is a lot of toxicity from the occasional political topic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Despised 05/16/23 1:52:48 PM #28:	Tyranthraxus posted... Keep it at 50 karma. No need to test anything. Thanks. --- instagig <cite>Despised posted [p:973505690] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Keep it at 50 karma. No need to test anything.Thanks.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 05/16/23 1:53:03 PM #30:	And we reserve the right to blame you for not fighting this harder. And why is the explanation coming from you instead of toast. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:973505698] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>And we reserve the right to blame you for not fighting this harder. And why is the explanation coming from you instead of toast.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonTentacles 05/16/23 1:53:34 PM #31:	I appreciate the clarification. SBAllen posted... There are occasional political topics here That is not true. There were so many political topics here before this lol --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonTentacles posted [p:973505711] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>I appreciate the clarification.SBAllen posted... </cite><quote>There are occasional political topics here</quote>That is not true. There were so many political topics here before this lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BombermanGold 05/16/23 1:53:37 PM #32:	creativerealms posted... It's your choice, not mine. Personally I feel having a board just for politics and political discussion is a good idea. To have most if not all the discussions there and only there. Regardless of how people think of the board it was better to have a place to go and discuss. I think this was a mistake. That is all. You'll have to take up with Fandom for that... so good luck (unless you got a ton of clout and money to Elon Muskrat your way to the top to reverse it!). Allen, could you sticky this for a short while? --- "I will be your superhero!!!" STEAM ID: BombermanGOLDEN <cite>BombermanGold posted [p:973505714] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>It's your choice, not mine. Personally I feel having a board just for politics and political discussion is a good idea. To have most if not all the discussions there and only there. Regardless of how people think of the board it was better to have a place to go and discuss. I think this was a mistake.That is all.</quote>You'll have to take up with Fandom for that... so good luck (unless you got a ton of clout and money to Elon Muskrat your way to the top to reverse it!).Allen, could you sticky this for a short while?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFandMMfan 05/16/23 1:53:44 PM #33:	Fandom is a shit company and you are a sellout for letting them get their grubby hands on this site, Sailor Bacon. <cite>FFandMMfan posted [p:973505716] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Fandom is a shit company and you are a sellout for letting them get their grubby hands on this site, Sailor Bacon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 05/16/23 1:53:56 PM #34:	SBAllen posted... board 261 was by far the biggest drain on our moderator resources across the whole site Could have been a real user limit and handed out actual lengthy suspensions or bans for stuff like "actual genocide denial". --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#Steelmanning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:973505723] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>SBAllen posted... </cite><quote>board 261 was by far the biggest drain on our moderator resources across the whole site</quote>Could have been a real user limit and handed out actual lengthy suspensions or bans for stuff like "actual genocide denial". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aysander 05/16/23 1:54:12 PM #35:	Sucks, but understandable yeah. --- Ernie. <cite>Aysander posted [p:973505729] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Sucks, but understandable yeah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 05/16/23 1:54:12 PM #36:	Avirosb posted... Pfft, yeah right, as if politics don't pop up constantly on the gaming boards. Who here is old enough to remember "gamergate"? We've already moderated politics on all gaming boards for years now. It was a very popular change too when we stopped allowing politics under the 'community' tag. --- I'm a long, long way from giving up Call me old-fashioned, call me a fool <cite>Error1355 posted [p:973505730] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Avirosb posted... </cite><quote>Pfft, yeah right, as if politics don't pop up constantly on the gaming boards.Who here is old enough to remember "gamergate"?</quote>We've already moderated politics on all gaming boards for years now. It was a very popular change too when we stopped allowing politics under the 'community' tag.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 05/16/23 1:54:20 PM #37:	It won't be long before the entire site is an incomprehensible mess like a fandom wiki. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:973505734] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>It won't be long before the entire site is an incomprehensible mess like a fandom wiki.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uta 05/16/23 1:54:25 PM #38:	Questionmarktarius posted... why temporary? SBAllen posted... to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so --- Others don't get to dictate what's normal and what isn't. It's something we decide for ourselves. <cite>Uta posted [p:973505736] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>why temporary?</quote>SBAllen posted... </cite><quote>to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cory898 05/16/23 1:54:34 PM #39:	The users of 261 deserved a heads up. --- Probably the only Mario Maker 2 level I'll ever create worth sharing. 1RT-9RG-QKF <cite>Cory898 posted [p:973505739] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>The users of 261 deserved a heads up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Avirosb 05/16/23 1:54:44 PM #40:	Eagerly await the new STALKER game so we can make fun of Putler again. --- "Fast X"??? Fast & Fur10us was right there, man <cite>Avirosb posted [p:973505745] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Eagerly await the new STALKER game so we can make fun of Putler again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 05/16/23 1:54:47 PM #41:	A high user level requirement will keep the obvious troll alts away. I hope... --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:973505747] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>A high user level requirement will keep the obvious troll alts away.I hope...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 05/16/23 1:54:52 PM #42:	SBAllen posted... We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version. Keep it. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:973505750] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>SBAllen posted... </cite><quote>We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version.</quote>Keep it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
badjay 05/16/23 1:54:54 PM #43:	ironman2009 posted... Sticky requested More people need to see this. And keep the higher level. --- [05:45:34] I bought an American L and it was like a tent <cite>badjay posted [p:973505751] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>ironman2009 posted... </cite><quote>Sticky requested</quote>More people need to see this. And keep the higher level. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 05/16/23 1:54:54 PM #44:	Starks posted... And we reserve the right to blame you for not fighting this harder. And why is the explanation coming from you instead of toast. Not to simp for mods, but there's no chance that any mods had any input in any fandom decisions regarding this site. Fandom probably got one too many advertising complaints about not wanting their ads popping up in an abortion topic. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:973505752] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite><quote>And we reserve the right to blame you for not fighting this harder. And why is the explanation coming from you instead of toast.</quote>Not to simp for mods, but there's no chance that any mods had any input in any fandom decisions regarding this site.Fandom probably got one too many advertising complaints about not wanting their ads popping up in an abortion topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 05/16/23 1:54:57 PM #45:	How does that MAGA ass taste like? We know the reason it was closed. It was the only slightly left-leaning board left on this cesspool and that just couldn't be allowed. Taking your cue from CNN is utter fucking brilliant --- Posted under Ellesarian in a past life. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:973505755] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>How does that MAGA ass taste like? We know the reason it was closed. It was the only slightly left-leaning board left on this cesspool and that just couldn't be allowed.Taking your cue from CNN is utter fucking brilliant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 05/16/23 1:55:13 PM #46:	No warning and no archiving makes the whole decision unacceptable. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:973505767] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>No warning and no archiving makes the whole decision unacceptable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 05/16/23 1:55:17 PM #48:	Def should keep the level requirements high for boards with a lot of trolling. --- Sig <cite>--Zero- posted [p:973505770] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>Def should keep the level requirements high for boards with a lot of trolling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 05/16/23 1:55:36 PM #49:	50 karma is too high for CE. --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:973505779] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>50 karma is too high for CE. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 05/16/23 1:55:38 PM #50:	So where to now? Reddit? --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:973505781] in 261 Closur... [t:80445579]...</cite> <quote>So where to now? Reddit? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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