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MrCokeacola
05/16/23 2:05:33 PM
#101:


Avirosb posted...
To be fair this is a gaming website
This used to be a great gaming website too until CJayC made the WoT board and ruined it. I am happy we are finally seeing a return to forum.

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Bio1590
05/16/23 2:05:45 PM
#102:


aarrgus posted...
https://americanpolitics.fandom.com/wiki/American_Politics_Wiki

So the politics wiki is ok, but a politics board is not?


I don't see anything in that Wiki at a quick glance that violates the policy line Allen quoted.

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Sandalorn
05/16/23 2:06:05 PM
#103:


aarrgus posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/263-religion

*cough cough*


Seriously...the original message and this one are just full of holes and so hypocritical. It was taken down for one reason...it was left-leaning. PERIOD.

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CountCorvinus
05/16/23 2:06:35 PM
#104:


I like the idea of keeping CE at lvl 30

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Jagr_68
05/16/23 2:06:58 PM
#105:


Bio1590 posted...
Raise it even higher

This x100.


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Sandalorn
05/16/23 2:07:51 PM
#108:


Error1355 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/9/AADAKwAAEe3D.png

What a perfect example of how terrible discussing politics on this website truly is.


Enjoy seeing it in here now everyday.

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Lizards
05/16/23 2:08:04 PM
#109:


Jagr_68 posted...
This x100.
5000 karma minimum for CE

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Ratchetrockon
05/16/23 2:08:41 PM
#111:


Lizards posted...
5000 karma minimum for CE

Please no

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ChocoboMogALT
05/16/23 2:08:57 PM
#112:


Jagr_68 posted...
This x100.
5000 karma would be impressive.

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Vyrulisse
05/16/23 2:08:58 PM
#113:


Keep it at 50.

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TheNextLink
05/16/23 2:09:28 PM
#114:


Sandalorn posted...
Enjoy seeing it in here now everyday.

I have a feeling they'll be cracking down on moderations here for that very reason.
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Avirosb
05/16/23 2:10:14 PM
#116:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/6/AAZ3HuAAEe3K.png

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Lizards
05/16/23 2:10:32 PM
#117:


ChocoboMogALT posted...
5000 karma would be impressive.
It's not

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Chev427BB
05/16/23 2:10:43 PM
#118:


SBAllen posted...
Generally, Fandom attempts to prevent communities being built specifically about politics.
It was an already established community though, not one built for Fandom.

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darkace77450
05/16/23 2:11:29 PM
#119:


TheNextLink posted...
I have a feeling they'll be cracking down on moderations here for that very reason.

But that would make CE the biggest drain on moderator resources, which might get it shut down without warning and sans archived posts.
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Starks
05/16/23 2:11:44 PM
#120:


Was there any point at which fandom specifically pointed out 261?

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Jagr_68
05/16/23 2:11:46 PM
#121:


Lizards posted...
5000 karma minimum for CE

Yes.

CE ya in a year when I break 5k!

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CrimsonGear80
05/16/23 2:12:24 PM
#122:


Error1355 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/9/AADAKwAAEe3D.png

What a perfect example of how terrible discussing politics on this website truly is.

I got suspended because i told people my account was currently not on "warned" status.

The bar on what constitutes "terrible discussion" that gets you punished around here was already incredibly low.

now i could be modded for defending the LGBTQ community or saying "Black Lives Matter". Which was a normal day on the Politics board but now seems to be "abusive language" according to the new corporate overlord...

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ToasterStrudeI
05/16/23 2:12:27 PM
#123:


SBAllen posted...
Howdy all. Since the announcement is a little bit vague (as corporate announcements tend to be), I just wanted to hop in and chime in a bit more casually about why the board was closed.

The primary reason for the closure was an attempt to help align all of Fandom's newly acquired brands with the existing community guidelines that they already have for Fandom.com. Political boards on other brands like GameSpot were also shut down as well.

Generally, Fandom attempts to prevent communities being built specifically about politics. You can see an exerpt from here: https://www.fandom.com/community-creation-policy

"Wikis whose main purpose is to represent a political party, advocate for or against a political ideology, or generally opine regarding political issues;"

I originally had some hesitation about this idea when it was first brought up, but to be honest, board 261 was by far the biggest drain on our moderator resources across the whole site, and one of the boards that garnered the most complaints from users. In the end, I do agree that it makes sense not to have a board that specifically caters to one of the most notoriously divisive conversational topics known to man. By removing the board, we are actually helping the mod team as well.

Does this mean that boards like CE are also on the chopping block? Not at all. There are occasional political topics here, but this board is mostly just a hub to discuss anything and everything. We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version.


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aarrgus
05/16/23 2:12:53 PM
#124:


Chev427BB posted...
It was an already established community though, not one built for Fandom.

Sounds like Fandom likes killing existing communities they don't like then.

Sounds kinda historical and political to me....

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MC_BatCommander
05/16/23 2:13:28 PM
#126:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
now i could be modded for defending the LGBTQ community or saying "Black Lives Matter". Which was a normal day on the Politics board but now seems to be "abusive language" according to the new corporate overlord...

You're not going to get modded for either of those things. They closed 261, they didn't announce that the GOP now owns the site.

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CADE_FOSTER
05/16/23 2:13:33 PM
#127:


lol
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Oeoeo23
05/16/23 2:13:34 PM
#128:


261 should have been set to Read-Only, rather than Deleted.
Also, my last 261 post is stuck on my AMP and that is infuriating to my sense of tidiness and organization.

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creativeme
05/16/23 2:13:59 PM
#129:


i never once visited the board so no biggie. keep the karma limit as is for the board.

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ChocoboMogALT
05/16/23 2:14:02 PM
#130:


Lizards posted...
It's not
My main has more karma than you

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leetshoe
05/16/23 2:15:00 PM
#132:


Doesn't really make sense ?

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Sir_Will
05/16/23 2:15:10 PM
#133:


SBAllen posted...
The primary reason for the closure was an attempt to help align all of Fandom's newly acquired brands with the existing community guidelines that they already have for Fandom.com. Political boards on other brands like GameSpot were also shut down as well.
So, yes, the beginning of the end.

SBAllen posted...
Generally, Fandom attempts to prevent communities being built specifically about politics. You can see an exerpt from here: https://www.fandom.com/community-creation-policy

"Wikis whose main purpose is to represent a political party, advocate for or against a political ideology, or generally opine regarding political issues;"
Which is nothing like a single message board.

SBAllen posted...
I originally had some hesitation about this idea when it was first brought up, but to be honest, board 261 was by far the biggest drain on our moderator resources across the whole site, and one of the boards that garnered the most complaints from users.
Increase the level needed to keep out new accounts and alts.

SBAllen posted...
Does this mean that boards like CE are also on the chopping block? Not at all. There are occasional political topics here, but this board is mostly just a hub to discuss anything and everything.
You seriously think political topics won't migrate here?

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LSGW_Zephyra
05/16/23 2:15:10 PM
#134:


aarrgus posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/263-religion

*cough cough*

Rarely ever gets mods or activity even. Everyone there has mostly been there for an eternity now.

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CrimsonGear80
05/16/23 2:15:12 PM
#135:


MC_BatCommander posted...
You're not going to get modded for either of those things. They closed 261, they didn't announce that the GOP now owns the site.

I mean, he said it violated the rules for "abusive language", so you can see why i would be asking and assuming such things when there was ZERO transparency for the users here about the issue.

if the politics board is closed, why would anyone not assume that any kind of "political" talk on any other board is OK?

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Sir_Will
05/16/23 2:15:26 PM
#136:


GranolaPanic posted...
I expect all social boards on GameFAQs to be shutdown by the end of this year.
Probably.

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electricbugs2
05/16/23 2:15:41 PM
#137:


The politics board was a useless cesspool anyway. Nothing of value lost there.

Please keep the level for CE higher. Absolutely sick of having to threaten worthless alts. Enough is enough.

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Agent_Stroud
05/16/23 2:15:49 PM
#138:


MC_BatCommander posted...
You're not going to get modded for either of those things. They closed 261, they didn't announce that the GOP now owns the site.

Some interesting reading about the owner of Fandom, particularly the section on his political views.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales

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Alucard188
05/16/23 2:15:52 PM
#139:


SBAllen posted...
I originally had some hesitation about this idea when it was first brought up, but to be honest, board 261 was by far the biggest drain on our moderator resources across the whole site, and one of the boards that garnered the most complaints from users. In the end, I do agree that it makes sense not to have a board that specifically caters to one of the most notoriously divisive conversational topics known to man. By removing the board, we are actually helping the mod team as well.

I agree with this. Holy shit, the word salad that you have to parse through on the regular from that board. 2016 to 2020 really killed any momentum or fulfillment I still had about the position. Fucking hell, that board was cancerous.

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Derwood
05/16/23 2:16:38 PM
#140:


This is the dumbest decision.
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MaxEffingBemis
05/16/23 2:17:15 PM
#141:


  1. I stopped posting on 261 recently because all the depressing news was getting to me. But now its gonna start being posted here and that sucks.
  2. I just dont agree with something like a politics board being shut down completely even if I dont go there. Fandom is garbage for this.

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Lizards
05/16/23 2:17:16 PM
#142:


ChocoboMogALT posted...
My main has more karma than you
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Avirosb
05/16/23 2:17:58 PM
#144:


If there's anything the internet has taught me, it's 1984

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ArsGoetia
05/16/23 2:18:32 PM
#145:


electricbugs2 posted...
The politics board was a useless cesspool anyway. Nothing of value lost there.

Please keep the level for CE higher. Absolutely sick of having to threaten worthless alts. Enough is enough.

what are you threatening them with lol

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Chev427BB
05/16/23 2:18:49 PM
#146:


Alucard188 posted...
I agree with this. Holy shit, the word salad that you have to parse through on the regular from that board. 2016 to 2020 really killed any momentum or fulfillment I still had about the position. Fucking hell, that board was cancerous.
I guess seeing now 7 years worth of the worst takes you could possibly see would make anyone agree with the nuclear option.

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kaiolino
05/16/23 2:18:59 PM
#147:


There were two boards left that I posted on by the second half of the 10s, Comics and Graphic Novels and Politics, and Politics was BY FAR the less inoffensive of the two when it came to being generally offensive. And by that point I had already dumped all the Gamergate-obsessed gaming boards.

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slk_23
05/16/23 2:20:15 PM
#148:


Can we vote to bring 261 back? GameFAQs is just not the same without politics.

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averagejoel
05/16/23 2:20:53 PM
#149:


SBAllen posted...
We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version.
no complaints about keeping it high. honestly you could even make it higher

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Solar_Crimson
05/16/23 2:21:07 PM
#150:


SBAllen posted...
We did raise the user level for this board as a temporary measure to prevent flooding from alts during this transitional period and after a few weeks or so, we'll poll the board and see how you all feel about lowering the level back down a bit or if you prefer the newer version.
Keep it risen.

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