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LiquidOshawott
05/08/23 8:49:22 PM
#1:


Which of the two do you like more?


Kinda back and forth on this one, I think I prefer Breath of the Wild more just because of how it handled things and made me think more while Mario just felt really safe (but the finale was incredible) I also think amongst their series I like Breath more

Figure I make this between the two big Switch games before Tears comes out (and maybe there will be a new Mario at some point too? This year feels pretty barren for Nintendo Switch releases)

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Great_Paul
05/08/23 8:49:57 PM
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votes odyssey

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05/08/23 8:55:31 PM
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Odyssey and it isnt even remotely close for me
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RaidenGarai
05/08/23 9:00:17 PM
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I enjoyed Odyssey. I hated Breath of the Wild.

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Kenri
05/08/23 9:01:09 PM
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Breath of the Wild and it isn't even remotely close for me

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05/08/23 9:02:06 PM
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I picked Odyssey, though for what its worth I think BotW has a greater gap between it and other 3D Zeldas than Odyssey has with other 3D Marios.

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VintageGin
05/08/23 9:13:44 PM
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BotW easily. One of my favorite games.

Odyssey was pretty meh outside of a few highlights.

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swirIdude
05/08/23 9:13:52 PM
#8:


Kenri posted...
Breath of the Wild and it isn't even remotely close for me


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BlueCrystalTear
05/08/23 9:16:31 PM
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Odyssey is the second-best headgear-based platformer of 2017; that's not saying it's bad since it's a downright fantastic game, it's just that A Hat in Time is more thoroughly amazing. Odyssey's standout levels really stuck with me (namely New Donk City) in ways the rest of the game did not. The gameplay is fun and progresses from the Galaxy games well. There are some great boss fights too, as is typical of Mario.

BotW is overrated - while it's still a good game, I'd say its 8/10 is less than most of the other 3D Zeldas. The weapons breaking is a huge problem since it happens just as quickly late in the game as it does early; there should be some sense of progression as you play through the game, become more experienced, and discover more things. There's also a sincere lack of things to do; the game is just exploring, and there's a real world you can do that without the worry that you'll run into a Lynel. The cooking system leaves a lot to be desired as well.

I'd say Odyssey is a 9/10, so Odyssey it is.

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MacArrowny
05/08/23 9:35:06 PM
#10:


Is this topic inspired by Breath of the Wild having 3 noms in the game of the generation topic while Odyssey has 14?

Both are the best of their 3D series, and I love them both. I liked BotW a little more though.

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HanOfTheNekos
05/08/23 9:38:24 PM
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BotW kept me all the way through getting all Korok seeds.

SMO didn't keep me through getting all moons.

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LiquidOshawott
05/08/23 9:40:11 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
Is this topic inspired by Breath of the Wild having 3 noms in the game of the generation topic while Odyssey has 14?

Both are the best of their 3D series, and I love them both. I liked BotW a little more though.

no I havent been paying attention to that, just think its the best way to gauge before Tears comes out

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azuarc
05/08/23 9:42:29 PM
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I enjoyed Odyssey. Breath of the Wild was too hard to get into for me -- and I like exploration games. Say what you will about people complaining about weapon durability, but I probably would have endured the other nuisances if not for that.

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Bane_Of_Despair
05/08/23 9:46:05 PM
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Kenri posted...
Super Mario Odyssey and it isn't even remotely close for me


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05/08/23 9:48:46 PM
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Great_Paul posted...
votes odyssey


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Jakyl25
05/08/23 9:55:29 PM
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BotW is my 4th favorite game of all time

but Odyssey is my 2nd

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foolm0r0n
05/08/23 9:55:37 PM
#17:


Odyssey even though I don't like it much

BlueCrystalTear posted...
it's just that A Hat in Time is more thoroughly amazing.
I played it around the same time too and the contrast was stark

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paperwarior
05/08/23 10:16:58 PM
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Mm, I dunno. I've been thinking about replaying Odyssey, actually. The biggest flaw of Odyssey is that it's relatively easy and so you can kind of just go through it. This bothers some people; it doesn't particularly bother me. BotW seems to rely on an ethereal greater-than-the-sum-of-its-parts quality, which is why some people just don't like it at all, but it's a great experience if it clicks for you. I don't think it's as good as Elden Ring or, to make a prediction, its own upcoming sequel, though.

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LeonhartFour
05/08/23 10:37:23 PM
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Both are pretty close but Breath of the Wild is the best Zelda game and Odyssey isn't even a top 5 Mario game, so I guess I'd lean Zelda in that regard

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05/08/23 11:01:20 PM
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swordz9 posted...
Odyssey and it isnt even remotely close for me


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Lolo_Guru
05/08/23 11:06:39 PM
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can we get odyssey 2 for this Christmas plz?

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Xeybozn
05/08/23 11:19:14 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
Is this topic inspired by Breath of the Wild having 3 noms in the game of the generation topic while Odyssey has 14?

Zelda's doing that badly in noms? What happened to BotW being so ridiculously strong that it wouldn't be fair to put Switch in the right generation?

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tcaz2
05/08/23 11:40:31 PM
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Odyssey for sure. Wasn't a big fan of BotW.

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NBIceman
05/09/23 12:06:13 AM
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Breath, but I wouldn't really call myself a big fan of either. Like multiple games in both series better.


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azuarc
05/09/23 12:35:31 AM
#25:


Xeybozn posted...
Zelda's doing that badly in noms? What happened to BotW being so ridiculously strong that it wouldn't be fair to put Switch in the right generation?

It just has to get in. Someone will make sure that happens.

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Xiahou_Shake
05/09/23 12:48:50 AM
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Odyssey blows BotW away IMO and it comes down entirely to open levels vs. open world. I know this is a contentious phrase but BotW's world legit feels empty for vast stretches whereas every world in Odyssey is absolutely bursting at the seams with platforming challenges and puzzles. Yeah you get some stinker moons in the process but if BotW used its space even a tenth as well as Odyssey it'd be a game of the ever candidate for me. Very glad to hear from early impressions that TotK has at least improved on that aspect somewhat.

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foolm0r0n
05/09/23 8:20:16 AM
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Odyssey is about as dense with activities as BOTW tbh. It's better but far from 10x better. The moons are as diluted as korok seeds. Only about 1/8th of them are worth doing. SMG2 was 10 times better use of space for sure.

Like, go play the mexican desert level again.

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Seanchan
05/09/23 8:20:44 AM
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I find all this retro "hate" that BotW is getting on this site to be bizarre, especially when this is the same fanbase that still holds up Mario 64 as one of the best games of all time. Those are completely incongruous things in my head.

I get that BotW is not for everyone since it's a fairly large departure from series norms. I also get that its ideas have been done better in other games that learned from its legacy. (Wait for the tide to somehow bizarrely turn on Elden Ring too in 5 years...) But it's place in history as a classic and its effect on the industry cannot be denied.

Now read the same sentence above and replace BotW with Mario 64.

Getting back to Odyssey vs BotW, I'm not surprised that the crowd that thinks BotW is too open and boring loves Odyssey, as that's a game that rewards you with moons for basically everything that you do. Personally, I found it to be a bit much. (I think the Galaxy games and 3D World are better 3D Marios.) Yes, there's just as many Korok seeds in BotW but they're more spaced out and they're not the core focus of the game.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/09/23 8:39:24 AM
#29:


Odyssey is amazing and BotW is terrible has potentially killed the Zelda franchise if it becomes the blueprint moving forward.

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KamikazePotato
05/09/23 8:59:49 AM
#30:


Seanchan posted...
I find all this retro "hate" that BotW is getting on this site to be bizarre, especially when this is the same fanbase that still holds up Mario 64 as one of the best games of all time.
People who dislike BotW are just really loud about it.

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swordz9
05/09/23 9:10:04 AM
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I dont hold Mario 64 in high regards either. Replaying it on Switch destroyed my childhood memories of how amazing it was. Its not terrible, but definitely didnt hold up at all for me.
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Bane_Of_Despair
05/09/23 9:12:42 AM
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And people who love BotW will take what other people say as less than love as "hating" it lol, that's partly why the whole James Stephanie/Jim Sterling 7/10 review debacle was such a shitshow

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LiquidOshawott
05/09/23 9:14:48 AM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
And people who love BotW will take what other people say as less than love as "hating" it lol, that's partly why the whole James Stephanie/Jim Sterling 7/10 review debacle was such a shitshow

so in other words, its a Zelda game

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KamikazePotato
05/09/23 9:23:12 AM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
And people who love BotW will take what other people say as less than love as "hating" it lol, that's partly why the whole James Stephanie/Jim Sterling 7/10 review debacle was such a shitshow
Like three posts above yours is someone calling it 'terrible'

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Aecioo
05/09/23 9:25:33 AM
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botw is terrible

it's babies first open world game

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Seanchan
05/09/23 9:32:18 AM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
And people who love BotW will take what other people say as less than love as "hating" it lol, that's partly why the whole James Stephanie/Jim Sterling 7/10 review debacle was such a shitshow

I did put "hating" in quotes for a reason. There's a few kooks calling it terrible as if it's a 2/10 game, which is objectively just not true. There's very few mainstream published games that truly fall into that category and a mainline Zelda game is certainly not going to be one of them. Mostly when I say "hating" it's a certain revisionist history of "actually it's not really that good of a game" 7/10 crowd. That's not true hate, that's more jumping on the reactionary bandwagon.

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foolm0r0n
05/09/23 9:44:24 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
People who dislike BotW are just really loud about it.
No, we were also super rare back when it came out. It's way more fashionable to criticize it nowadays. It's like 50/50 instead of 5/95.

And yes that means if you're in the 7/10 crowd today you were most likely in the GOAT 11/10 crowd when it came out so you should sit down and take the next 10 years of mediocre Zelda games that you signed up for.

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paperwarior
05/09/23 9:47:50 AM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
And people who love BotW will take what other people say as less than love as "hating" it lol, that's partly why the whole James Stephanie/Jim Sterling 7/10 review debacle was such a shitshow
Sure, there are some people like that, but I don't think there aren't any in this topic. There are people who think it's terrible, extremely mediocre, and/or ruining the Zelda series though.

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LiquidOshawott
05/09/23 9:49:11 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
No, we were also super rare back when it came out. It's way more fashionable to criticize it nowadays. It's like 50/50 instead of 5/95.

And yes that means if you're in the 7/10 crowd today you were most likely in the GOAT 11/10 crowd when it came out so you should sit down and take the next 10 years of mediocre Zelda games that you signed up for.

well gaming as a whole has gotten so much better in the last five to six years so even if you dont like Zelda you will at least find something thats up your alley very quickly


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paperwarior
05/09/23 9:53:04 AM
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No, no, it's our fault. We're ruining gaming by having such low standards.

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foolm0r0n
05/09/23 9:53:09 AM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
well gaming as a whole has gotten so much better in the last five to six years so even if you dont like Zelda you will at least find something thats up your alley very quickly
That's totally beside the point. Zelda could & should be part of that trend since it's an awesome series that still does things better than the competition (as BOTW proved with a few key innovations). Especially since AAA games have not been part of that quality trend, it's indies and the resurgence of mid-size studios mostly.

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KamikazePotato
05/09/23 9:58:19 AM
#42:


foolm0r0n posted...
No, we were also super rare back when it came out. It's way more fashionable to criticize it nowadays. It's like 50/50 instead of 5/95.
50/50 is really stretching it. Maaaybe if you only count the people who make a stir, but that's because most people who like BotW don't bother posting. They know they've already won.

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HanOfTheNekos
05/09/23 10:00:59 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
50/50 is really stretching it. Maaaybe if you only count the people who make a stir, but that's because most people who like BotW don't bother posting. They know they've already won.

Actually, fool will let them know that they lost because they were having bad fun.

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Leonhart4
05/09/23 10:03:16 AM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Actually, fool will let them know that they lost because they were having bad fun.

And this is why talking about Breath of the Wild as a fan on B8 isn't fun anymore and I'm guessing I'm not alone. The topic devolves into the same thing every single time.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/09/23 10:04:12 AM
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BotW is like Hades for me.

Here's this game that obviously a ton of people love and the people who like this kind of game are ecstatic. Me, I hate it, I know I'm in the minority but I just can't stand it. However, it's no big deal, because the people making these games basically never do direct sequels, so I can hold out for the next one.

Then both of them announce their next game is a sequel to the previous game that I fundamentally did not like, and there's really nothing that can be improved to MAKE me like them without complete changing the game's core.

So now instead having to wait 3-5 years for the next entry I'll enjoy from this studio, I have to wait potentially 7-10.

And there's a lot of salt there.

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LiquidOshawott
05/09/23 10:10:29 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
That's totally beside the point. Zelda could & should be part of that trend since it's an awesome series that still does things better than the competition (as BOTW proved with a few key innovations). Especially since AAA games have not been part of that quality trend, it's indies and the resurgence of mid-size studios mostly.

I think your average person here clearly thinks differently one way or the other (a majority of the people meh about BoTW seem to love Odyssey) and even if you think otherwise theres other quality Nintendo games like Metroid Dread or Animal Crossing that people seem to really like. This board is still a Nintendo stronghold.

I think this may be true from a western studio perspective except for Sony but the Segas/Nintendo/Capcoms all seem to be getting pretty consistent praise lately

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foolm0r0n
05/09/23 10:10:48 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
50/50 is really stretching it. Maaaybe if you only count the people who make a stir, but that's because most people who like BotW don't bother posting. They know they've already won.
That's included in the number yeah. Back then only 5% of people actually posting didn't like it, now it's about 50% of people actually posting. Of course the vast majority of non-posters DO like it and always have.

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foolm0r0n
05/09/23 10:13:04 AM
#48:


Leonhart4 posted...
And this is why talking about Breath of the Wild as a fan on B8 isn't fun anymore and I'm guessing I'm not alone. The topic devolves into the same thing every single time.
There's new defenses pulled out every time which is pretty fun. Han's post about progression last time was awesome.

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Leonhart4
05/09/23 10:17:05 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
There's new defenses pulled out every time which is pretty fun. Han's post about progression last time was awesome.

Sounds like you're having more fun with the game than anyone

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KamikazePotato
05/09/23 10:18:54 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
And this is why talking about Breath of the Wild as a fan on B8 isn't fun anymore and I'm guessing I'm not alone. The topic devolves into the same thing every single time.
I can guess the users that will be posting every time it's mentioned. Only other B8 lightning rod on that level is FF7 Remake.

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