Current Events > New poll finds America polarized over culture, race and 'woke'

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https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/-country-fire-new-poll-finds-america-polarized-culture-race-woke-rcna81592

The countrys cultural divides and political divides have become one and the same, according to a new national NBC News poll.

The poll finds stark partisan differences on major cultural issues racism, accepting LGBTQ people, the term woke, and even the fundamental goals of American society.

Half of Americans 50% believe society should be promoting greater respect for traditional social and moral values, while 42% say society should be encouraging greater tolerance of people with different lifestyles and backgrounds. That perspective has stayed almost completely stagnant since the poll asked the same question in 2013.

Digging into those numbers reveals a deep partisan divide.

Three in four Republicans say the country should promote traditional social and moral values, while 67% of Democrats want greater tolerance of diverse lifestyles and backgrounds. Independents are split, with 49% picking traditional values and 41% siding with greater tolerance.

The survey revealed a country on fire, seething with anger at our political leaders and too often at each other, said Democratic pollster Jeff Horwitt of Hart Research, who conducted the poll along with GOP pollster Bill McInturff of Public Opinion Strategies.

The poll revealed a country sharply divided on these questions politically, and often ethnicity and generation, he added.

tradition is peer pressure from dead people.

Cool

I think people on the left often give people too much benefit of the doubt. It's easier to believe the rhetoric is highly unpopular and that the media is just appealing to a dying demographic. But this shit is popular. Our country has literally backslide 50-70 years in the last 8.

COVxy posted...

Our country has literally backslide 50-70 years in the last 8.

women's rights. segregation to some degree and LGBT rights.

yes. all true.

COVxy posted...

I think people on the left often give people too much benefit of the doubt. It's easier to believe the rhetoric is highly unpopular and that the media is just appealing to a dying demographic. But this shit is popular. Our country has literally backslide 50-70 years in the last 8.

"If I keep saying it, it'll come true" basically. A common (but completely ineffective) tactic from both sides tbh.

Indeed

COVxy posted...

I think people on the left often give people too much benefit of the doubt. It's easier to believe the rhetoric is highly unpopular and that the media is just appealing to a dying demographic. But this shit is popular. Our country has literally backslide 50-70 years in the last 8.

People keep downplaying just how powerful and popular the right is in this country. Honestly I think this country's a lost cause.

Remember when a fucking virus was politicized? A virus

Half of Independents give a shit about Social Conservatism?

MirageOfRuins posted...

tradition is peer pressure from dead people.

tradition is massively parallel trial and error on a societal and multigenerational scale converging in the form of cultural patterns carrying latent knowledge about the human condition, interpersonal relationships, and collective relationships with the environment and other societies

the folly of traditionalist conservatives is blindness to its existence within an open system rather than a vacuum, and thus need of ongoing reevaluation and evolution reflecting present circumstances, internal and external

conversely, progressive liberals intuitively understand the open system as it relates to the impermanence of a traditional "state" but arrogantly believe it can be thrown out wholesale and replaced with new constructs formed a priori and imposed society-wide, oblivious to the possibility of latent externalities and also occasionally implicitly assuming a closed system with respect to their own prescriptions

We need a real president to bring our country back together. Someone like me.

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During 4 of the last 8 years, Joe Biden or Obama were in office.

yeah definitely polarized i was gonna ask what your main username is

Pepys_Monster posted...

During 4 of the last 8 years, Joe Biden or Obama were in office.

Can't wait for you to be suspended again!

Kaldrenthebold posted...

Can't wait for you to be suspended again!

Your post is late, >.<

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When Obergefell happened I noticed there was a massive spike in anti-LGBT sentiment.

wanderingshade posted...

Half of Independents give a shit about Social Conservatism?

There are conservatives who recognize that being identified as a part of the Republican party makes them look like a Nazi a bit too much but actively agree with them on most every stance (well... maybe all of them...). Thus they are "independent." It is the problem when breaking part people based on political party identification rather than ideology.

kingdrake2 posted...

women's rights. segregation to some degree and LGBT rights.

yes. all true.

acceptance of alternative lifestyles, sexuality, even heterosexuality, recreational drugs, advances in medical-science, technology, critical thinking skills, workers rights, child labor laws, the right to vote for non white male landowners, all of it is being reversed, all for the sake of the appeal to authoritarianism and to appease the never ending hunger for power that is corporations and those who own them. We are legit in the end stage of capitalism as a country and right now we're less 5 weeks away from a historic default on the national debt that could plunge the world economy down the tubes.

GrandConjuraton posted...

Your post is late, >.<

Damn that was fast.

Half of Americans 50% believe society should be promoting greater respect for traditional social and moral values

man, this shit sucks

I think it would be healthy for everyone to unplug (both from internet and TV) and interact with people irl a bit more, and thereby perhaps are a little more likely to realize people, society and life are not necessarily always as extreme as social media and the more biased news outlets say it is.

woke and chill

Once again the mega elite have pitted Americans against themselves with non sense.

SoIidLegacy posted...

I think it would be healthy for everyone to unplug (both from internet and TV) and interact with people irl a bit more, and thereby perhaps are a little more likely to realize people, society and life are not necessarily always as extreme as social media and the more biased news outlets say it is.

Problem is you act like people want to interact in a positive constructive way with others. That isn't always the case. You're not going to always people who are willing to accept others, or even tolerate them and let them be. People are too eager to hurt and destroy others, even those who have never done anything to them and it's serious problem. If everyone was open towards actually working towards a peaceful and constructive solution the world wouldn't be in the mess that is in.

the GOP strategy of hyper focusing on "culture wars" every time a Democrat is PotUS wins again. they do this literally every time. and it continues to work, both to distract the country from any real issues, and to fill their base with rage to prepare for the next election.

Garabandal posted...

Half of Americans 50% believe society should be promoting greater respect for traditional social and moral values, while 42% say society should be encouraging greater tolerance of people with different lifestyles and backgrounds.

The two are not mutually exclusive if you believe like me that the latter is an expression of the former.

Morality has no place in government.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Morality has no place in government.

Uhh.. pretty sure government is (ideally) driven by morals...

I would almost take the "traditional morals!!11" people seriously if most of them weren't people who held depraved shit wagons like Trump as cult leader status.

I didnt vote in this new poll, did any of you?

sure would be nice if half of america stopped being bigots

Ruvan22 posted...

Uhh.. pretty sure government is (ideally) driven by morals...

My morals tell me how to live, and your morals tell you how to live.
When I insist that my morals tell you how to live, or the other way around, there's going to be a problem.

Questionmarktarius posted...

My morals tell me how to live, and your morals tell you how to live.
When I insist that my morals tell you how to live, or the other way around, there's going to be a problem.

So nothing should be illegal including rape and murder because those are all morality based

Except no, because that's fucking moronic

Questionmarktarius posted...

My morals tell me how to live, and your morals tell you how to live.
When I insist that my morals tell you how to live, or the other way around, there's going to be a problem.

There's going to be disagreement - which is part of humans living together in ANY capacity. Are you saying every government and law has only come from perfectly unified moral beliefs?

DarthAragorn posted...

So nothing should be illegal including rape and murder because those are all morality based

Except no, because that's fucking moronic

Government should only care about harmful interactions with others, not things we do to "harm" ourselves.
Now, that leaves the matter of defining "harm".

Questionmarktarius posted...

Government should only care about harmful interactions with others, not things we do to "harm" ourselves.
Now, that leaves the matter of defining "harm".

Wait- why should government care about harmful interactions with others if morals shouldn't have any influence on government?

Noumas posted...

Remember when a fucking virus was politicized? A virus

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/1/AASa75AAEcQh.jpg

TheGoldenEel posted...

man, this shit sucks

Yeah it does. Although I'd say most of that 50% is old people and religious ones.

The internet doesn't help. And everyone wants to paint with broad brushes.

Ruvan22 posted...

Wait- why should government care about harmful interactions with others if morals shouldn't have any influence on government?

Harmed citizens are likely to be lost revenue.

R1masher posted...

I didnt vote in this new poll, did any of you?

Good point. If NBC sent me a text saying cast a vote in some survey that shit is getting instablocked lmao.

Assuming more millenials and zoomers do this too so the poll doesn't reflect the real numbers.

Noumas posted...

Remember when a fucking virus was politicized? A virus

I remember lots of people saying they wouldn't take the caffeine just because it began during trump's time. I remember people wishing death on those who ignored the guidelines and also the unvaccinated. If the last few years taught me anything is that politics are worse than sports and that they're not worth engaging in, unless i want to lose my sanity. People are destroying each other over the dumbest of shit, bunch of fallacies thrown instead of trying to find common ground. Biden promised the country would heal under his presidency, but i say the people need to take that step themselves first.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Harmed citizens are likely to be lost revenue.

Why does revenue matter? (if morals aren't dictating what matters)

Ruvan22 posted...

Why does revenue matter? (if morals aren't dictating what matters)

Alright fine.
We're going to have to accept that the morality of "don't murder and/or rape" is a bit different than the morality of "bacon is forbidden".

Questionmarktarius posted...

Alright fine.
We're going to have to accept that the morality of "don't murder and/or rape" is a bit different than the morality of "bacon is forbidden".

So your revised post/stance is "Some morals have no place in government"? Seems much more reasonable..if not as "burning hot takeish"

Ruvan22 posted...

So your revised post/stance is "Some morals have no place in government"?

That's fair.
I'd go as far as "most".