Board 8 > Why does Mr. DeLite want to be Mask*DeMasque so badly anyway?

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wasn't it stated that it was so that he could afford desiree's expensive hobbies?

In retrospect, I should have put quotation marks around the topic title

Ace Attorney is the most serious of business, here.

I mean the topic title is directly a quote from the game, combined with the first post

Desiree grows as a character by becoming his partner in crime after talking big about how much she hates criminals

Excluding the main cast (which counts defendants and prosecutors), Desiree is probably the best character in Ace Attorney to never actually testify. Aside from her bringing in a certain piece of incriminating evidence, of course, which just proves what a keeper she is. Obvious why Ron wants her to stay. She actually cares deeply about him because he will do anything for her. And she's hot.

3-2 is one of my favorite cases and that subplot is one reason why. It's written differently than most other cases and that makes it more compelling, even though Ron and Luke are idiots (for two very different reasons).

Desiree grows as a character by becoming his partner in crime after talking big about how much she hates criminals

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but isn't that like, entirely unintentional, and just further leads to her growth?

She rationalized it after she learned what Ron had done that she doesn't hate all criminals, just cowardly ones. Ron is okay because he's a noble thief or whatever.

Desiree is probably the best character in Ace Attorney to never actually testify.

This makes me forever love 3-2. Too many cases rely on focusing on the culprit or the defendant. Desiree is the one who makes 3-2 work so well. Yes, I'll always love the over the top Luke Atmey more than her, for instance, but I'll never downplay how much she makes that case.

Nah fuck that. Eldoon for life

I mean, that's entirely out of her love for Ron, who was acting under misguided purposes to begin with. That, in itself, is growth.

Or it's rationalization because it's Ron. Regardless, she certainly doesn't advocate for him to change his ways. She happily joins him. You can call that growth if you want, I guess.

She only "joins him" by coming to his defense and trying to claim he'd never do what he did.

Well, yes, Ron is dumb for not trusting that his wife actually loves him, but she does opt for the life of crime so she doesn't actually have to spend less money.

She doesn't even actually "opt for the life of crime." She just decides to try to defend him because... You know, she loves him.

Once again, Ron doesn't stop being a criminal since he's off the hook for double jeopardy. He continues being one, and Desiree joins him.

At no point does it suggest "Desiree wants him to keep being a thief so she can keep spending money" like... At all. Where did you get that?

During the post-credits scene. They start a security firm that secretly sells the plans to the bad guys, leading Ron to wonder if they're actually the real bad guys.

And they're clearly scouting out the area for a heist in their cameo in AAI2. Ron doesn't change his ways. Desiree changes her ways.

I looked at wiki, and it doesn't say anything about Ron continuing a life of crime after the double jeopardy. It just says this:

After their ordeal, the DeLites started an organization aiming to help thieves start honest lives, with their slogan being: "Cut it out, PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE!" Ironically, they also help thieves by giving them detailed plans for their heists.

yeah that's a crime

Love makes people stupid

But I think the fact that Ron never fully becomes a good guy makes him a more interesting character. The fact that Phoenix defends a criminal and gets him off the hook is a nice twist on the formula. It's just more palatable than, say, Matt Engarde because Ron is likable.

don't let this fun yet meaningless argument distract from the fact that someone above actually said that eldoon (I don't know why this was spoiler tagged) was their favorite non-testifying npc