Current Events > Korea proposes increase in work from 52 hours to up to 69 hours per week

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wackyteen
03/10/23 10:53:29 AM
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Would you work 69 hours a week for more pay and more OT and more holidays?



https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/world/asia/2023-01-19-south-korean-government-proposes-increase-in-work-week-to-69-hours-from-52/

Seoul The administration of South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol wants to allow people to work up to 69 hours a week up from the current 52 and bank overtime hours in exchange for time off, a plan it hopes will promote family growth alongside productivity.
The government says the plan, set to be announced next month, will provide more flexibility in the labour market. Officials say people would work less as a whole, encouraging them to have families and shore up a fertility rate that is projected to hit a global-low 0.7 in 2024.
It would supersede a 2018 law that limited the work week to 52 hours 40 hours of regular work plus 12 hours of overtime. The ministry of employment and labor said in a statement that law had fallen behind the times.
If you are working at ice cream factories for example, you can work overtime seasonally, then save the hours of work and use later to go on a longer holiday, the ministry said of the reform.
The proposal would allow employers and workers to agree on whether to count overtime by the week, with 12 hours allowed; the month, with 52 hours allowed; the quarter, with 140 hours allowed; a half year, with 250 hours; or a full year, with 440 hours of overtime allowed.
For counting periods of a month or longer, up to 29 hours a week of overtime would be allowed, for a total of 69 work hours in one week. Overtime could be exchanged later for time off at a rate that has not been announced.
Shortcut to population extinction
Only 14% of South Koreans were in trade unions in 2021, data show, which could limit how much workers can negotiate. In a statement, the Korean Womens Associations United (KWAU) said only regulations like the 52-hour work week and pressure from labour unions can protect workers from long working hours.
The law must be passed by the National Assembly, where Yoons political opponents hold the majority. Opposition politicians have said they oppose the plan, with representative Park Yong-jin of the main opposition Democratic Party of Korea (DPK) calling it a shortcut to population extinction.
The labour ministry has brushed off such criticisms, saying the proposal would only add more choice.
More than 18% of South Koreans worked more than 50 hours a week in the worlds 10th-largest economy in 2021, according to unpublished data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) the fifth-highest after Turkey, Mexico, Colombia and Costa Rica.
The move has been welcomed by the countrys major business lobbying groups, including the Korea Enterprise Federation (KEF), which described it as necessary. But some experts are sceptical that the new proposal would reduce how much people work.
The beauty of introducing a 52-hour workweek was that you gave a signal to employers, unions and workers saying, Listen, you really have to do something about the long working hours culture in your country, said Willem Adema, a senior economist at the social policy division of the OECD. If the current legislation is all about giving flexibility then thats fine. But it doesnt seem to be interpreted as such.
The government says allowing workers to spend accrued overtime hours on vacations will mean people who want to work less such as parents or caregivers will be able to do so.
Extending working hours, even temporarily, affects women more than men, said Lee Min-Ah, professor of sociology at Chung-Ang University (CAU).
When male partners work more, womens economic activity will be discouraged and their responsibility of childcare will only increase, Lee said.
The country already has the lowest fertility rate in the world, and a rapidly ageing population. The working-age population peaked at 38-million in 2019 and is set to drop by more than 9-million by 2040, government data show.
Lee Yoon-sun, a 29-year-old office worker, said working high-intensity hours and then taking time off would be disruptive.
Working long hours when you have a heavy workload and then resting when you are less busy seems like a pattern that will lead to an irregular life, affecting having children and taking care of them, said Lee, who does not have children.
Other workers say the new plan ignores a lot of the cultural and social nuances of work in South Korea.
If its 6pm, you dont just run out the door, you carefully put on your clothes and make sure you watch what your co-workers are doing, so you are not the one leaving while everyone else is still working, said Albert Kim, a 27-year-old living in Seoul, who also does not have children. There are a lot of grey areas I wish the proposal would have addressed.

That's just shy of 10 hour days, every day.

That's insane <_<

Somehow this is supposed to result in more free time for families overall?

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ScazarMeltex
03/10/23 10:54:33 AM
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Lol no.

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WolfFangHowell
03/10/23 10:54:40 AM
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wackyteen posted...
69

Sick
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boxoto
03/10/23 10:56:42 AM
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fuck that

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Sufferedphoneix
03/10/23 10:58:03 AM
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I already do.

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DKBananaSlamma
03/10/23 10:58:21 AM
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I work 60 and that feels like more than enough >_>

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famfam
03/10/23 11:00:37 AM
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nice
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Payzmaykr
03/10/23 11:02:01 AM
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Nope. Work is never my identity. Im not a piece of company property and my well-being comes before corporate profit.

What you get is eight hours, five times per week. Eight hours of work, eight hours of sleep, and eight hours of me doing whatever I want. The workforce has become so toxic and fast-paced that we honestly need to bring out UBI. The people who choose to work will have extra money.
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Jagr_68
03/10/23 11:02:29 AM
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nice

??????

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tripleh213
03/10/23 11:03:43 AM
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Lol no

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Questionmarktarius
03/10/23 11:04:29 AM
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allow
whut
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PMarth2002
03/10/23 11:05:18 AM
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I wouldn't work 52 hours tbh.

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Lonestar2000
03/10/23 11:07:12 AM
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No, people should be working less.

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Southernfatman
03/10/23 11:09:17 AM
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Of course the lazy liberal socialists would have a problem with this. We are born to serve our betters and make them money. /s

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Savoots
03/10/23 11:09:52 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Nope. Work is never my identity. Im not a piece of company property and my well-being comes before corporate profit.

What you get is eight hours, five times per week. Eight hours of work, eight hours of sleep, and eight hours of me doing whatever I want. The workforce has become so toxic and fast-paced that we honestly need to bring out UBI. The people who choose to work will have extra money.

Edit- I realize this sounds very bitter, but it comes as a result of abuse by workplaces that, simply put, should never have happened. The abusive pay, the abusive hours, the outright wage theft, and the frantic scramble to find anyone hiringYeah, its gonna take a lot to make me not burned out on the workforce with what THEY TURNED IT INTO.

You turned it into this, not them.

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Maeiv
03/10/23 11:12:10 AM
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Hmm we have the lowest birth rate in the world, really high suicide rates and extremely high levels of alcoholism

how about we make workers work more

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mustachedmystic
03/10/23 11:14:00 AM
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Thats insane!

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Garioshi
03/10/23 11:15:47 AM
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Yeah I would just fucking explode

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refmon
03/10/23 11:20:16 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Of course the lazy liberal socialists would have a problem with this. We are born to serve our betters and make them money.


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Collat
03/10/23 11:20:32 AM
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I definitely would not be doing much on my time off in that case. Just eating and resting until it's back to work.
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Nirvanas_Nox
03/10/23 11:25:57 AM
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Yeah no. We need to work less not more. UBI should be a thing in every country by now.

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WolfFangHowell
03/10/23 11:29:40 AM
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You can always literally make time for things. You cant just make money, especially later in life.
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Nirvanas_Nox
03/10/23 11:36:18 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Of course the lazy liberal socialists would have a problem with this. We are born to serve our betters and make them money. /s

Funny you day that when most of the conservatives I see are lazy rich jerks.

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Ratchetrockon
03/10/23 11:39:56 AM
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Nice

Jk that sounds horrible

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ZevLoveDOOM
03/10/23 11:40:25 AM
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and i propose them to eat a bag of dicks.
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WolfFangHowell
03/10/23 11:42:26 AM
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Yes, I'm glad you have come to this understanding since your original post.

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Suolevram
03/10/23 11:42:48 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
and i propose them to eat a bag of dicks.
I got banned from my inlaws house for about a year for telling father-in-law to eat a bag of dicks. Funniest shit ever. We all joke about it now. I'm glad that happened.

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CableZL
03/10/23 11:44:06 AM
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Hell no

I used to work 60 - 80 hour weeks at my old job. There's no way in hell I would want to go back to that.

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meestermj
03/10/23 11:48:07 AM
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I would rather sit naked on a hot grill, than work more than 44 hours per week.

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VeggetaX
03/10/23 12:04:54 PM
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Why are they doing this? Squid Games and Parasite are literally about the shitty social and economical issues they have in Korea. They've brought awareness about how crappy it is over there and yet here's Korea double downing on it.

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TaylorHeinicke
03/10/23 12:14:57 PM
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nice

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Solid_Seb
03/10/23 12:42:23 PM
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Suolevram posted...
I got banned from my inlaws house for about a year for telling father-in-law to eat a bag of dicks. Funniest shit ever. We all joke about it now. I'm glad that happened.
Seems excessive

...Unless he actually did it
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Goldice
03/10/23 12:44:45 PM
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The government says allowing workers to spend accrued overtime hours on vacations will mean people who want to work less such as parents or caregivers will be able to do so.

Ahahaha. Yes. That is totally how this will work out. They'll totally be able to use those accrued hours to take vacations whenever they need to. Yes definitely.

My God their lies are getting so bold. There's a paragraph discussing that due to cultural influences they even LEAVE a certain way. But sure they'll just take time off.

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03/10/23 12:45:38 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/6/AAcZIZAAEQ4A.jpg

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Solid_Seb
03/10/23 12:49:43 PM
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This is so weird.

So basically their strat is work more hours now, then trade those hours in for vacation in the future. Are they trying to turn time into a currency? And you essentially have to purchase vacations with it?

Strangest way to tackle the "people need more time off so they can procreate" problem.
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Binkster
03/10/23 1:09:18 PM
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lolno

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kage_53
03/10/23 1:21:51 PM
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I dont get why East Asian countries have this obsession with working a lot of hours.
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Zonbei
03/10/23 2:06:21 PM
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WolfFangHowell posted...
You can always literally make time for things. You cant just make money, especially later in life.


Ive got bad news for you bud, time is finite and were all going to die eventually.

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Humble_Novice
03/10/23 2:44:45 PM
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This is what Korea gets for voting conservative.
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SSMajinVegeta2
03/10/23 2:52:17 PM
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Lol normal day

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viewmaster_pi
03/10/23 3:04:49 PM
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what next, 420 hours?

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Unknown781
03/10/23 3:33:04 PM
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https://youtu.be/ikxkIWMwf08
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WolfFangHowell
03/10/23 3:36:10 PM
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Zonbei posted...
Ive got bad news for you bud, time is finite and were all going to die eventually. You in fact cannot literally always make time for things.

Nope. You can damn sure make time easier than you can make money. That's kinda how it works.
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StormSignal
03/10/23 3:46:20 PM
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luck to the people

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