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cjsdowg
03/09/23 8:57:51 PM
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https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1633457036112568322

Why does she keep saying this.

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AmericaTheBrave
03/09/23 8:58:34 PM
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Respect women.

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pfh1001
03/09/23 9:06:50 PM
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What a fucking nutbag.
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RISEofCHRISTIAN
03/09/23 9:10:39 PM
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What about the men?

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the_pika
03/09/23 9:14:01 PM
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She needs to shit the fuck up. She gives ammo to these kind of people :

RISEofCHRISTIAN posted...
What about the men?

men are dying in a war they dont want to fight, theyre being tortured to the point they beg to death. Theyre getting drafted against their will too.

and Hillary just went like wOmEn dA rEaL vIcTiMs
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Ooooooranges
03/09/23 9:16:20 PM
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I don't understand why her words are reported anymore. She's irrelevant and only says stupid things.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/09/23 9:16:37 PM
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She really should have gotten the message after 2016 that she needed to stop saying things.

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the_pika
03/09/23 9:18:28 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
She really should have gotten the message after 2016 that she needed to stop saying things.

she has the ocasional chance to say the perfect thing (eg when it is discovered that trump did some crazy illegal thing and she jabs chuds with but my emails), but I agree she needs to shut up 99% of the time
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MarcyWarcy
03/09/23 9:20:22 PM
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shes just trying to tie womens month in with giving a ton of money to ukraine because she cares way more about the latter than the former, but hillary is not exactly known for subtlety or smoothness

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1337toothbrush
03/09/23 9:22:55 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
She really should have gotten the message after 2016 that she needed to stop saying things.
That's sexist.

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Kimbos_Egg
03/09/23 9:23:02 PM
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Is there anything she won't keep parroting this shit about?

"Women are the primary victims of rain and snow.."

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thronedfire2
03/09/23 9:23:59 PM
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maybe she's not counting soldiers as victims? because that would make sense since it's mostly men fighting

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Aloc
03/09/23 9:28:01 PM
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She forgot about the Libyan women that were sold into slavery because of her impulsiveness in Libya.
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K181
03/09/23 9:29:29 PM
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Some of you guys are getting really weirdly upset by a fairly empty and banal statement.

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the_pika
03/09/23 9:31:35 PM
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K181 posted...
Some of you guys are getting really weirdly upset by a fairly empty and banal statement.

did you read my post?

men are getting drafted, tortured, tortured again and then killed, sometimes on film.

and then someone comes and says that women are the victims of the war ?
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K181
03/09/23 9:34:03 PM
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the_pika posted...
did you read my post?

men are getting drafted, tortured, tortured again and then killed, sometimes on film.

and then someone comes and says that women are the victims of the war ?

Did you hear what she said? She said that women and children were primary victims, not that they were the only victims. Theres widespread war rape of women and child abductions in Ukraine, along with getting killed and tortured as well.

Pointing that out has been said in essentially every war ever. Its a weird thing to be singularly upset about. Its basically a cliche statement at this point.

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ThePrinceFish
03/09/23 9:36:24 PM
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K181 posted...
Did you hear what she said? She said that women and children were primary victims, not that they were the only victims. Theres widespread war rape of women and child abductions in Ukraine, along with getting killed and tortured as well.

Pointing that out has been said in essentially every war ever. Its a weird thing to be singularly upset about. Its basically a cliche statement at this point.
Saying that anyone but the soldiers being sent to fight and die are the primary victims of warfare is laughable and why everyone laughs at her every time she says it.

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K181
03/09/23 9:40:18 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Saying that anyone but the soldiers being sent to fight and die are the primary victims of warfare is laughable and why everyone laughs at her every time she says it.

Civilians in war zones are almost always considered to be the hardest hit in almost every war ever, with examples to the contrary being notable in their rarity, like soldiers on the western front of WWI. There are a million things to be upset about with her, this cliche statement isnt one of them.

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Krojen
03/09/23 9:40:19 PM
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Shes said this about once a month for decades.

If theyre the primary victims, then that means the men forced to fight and die are secondary victims, which ignoring the dumb rage bait over this, never made sense definitionally to me.

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ThePrinceFish
03/09/23 9:41:59 PM
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K181 posted...
Civilians in war zones are almost always considered to be the hardest hit in almost every war ever, with examples to the contrary being notable in their rarity, like soldiers on the western front of WWI. There are a million things to be upset about with her, this cliche statement isnt one of them.
We have words like primary, secondary, and tertiary for a reason. Displaced civilians are definitely victims of warfare. They are secondary to the soldiers being sent to fight and die.

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Imit8m3
03/09/23 9:44:12 PM
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Pitiful

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K181
03/09/23 9:45:06 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
We have words like primary, secondary, and tertiary for a reason. Displaced civilians are definitely victims of warfare. They are secondary to the soldiers being sent to fight and die.

So, essentially its okay to prioritize victims of war if you agree with the prioritization? She never said some some were secondary to others in suffering, but you did.

Again, its a weird thing to fixate on regardless, as shes the billionth person to make a statement like that in the thousandth conflict.

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COVxy
03/09/23 9:47:19 PM
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CE has a weird hateboner for Hillary. It doesn't matter what she says. The issue they take with the situation is that she's on a stage somewhere talking to an audience.

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Zikten
03/09/23 9:49:23 PM
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Tons of girls in Ukraine have been raped and murdered by the Russian invaders. The Russians are killing everyone. Not just the soldiers
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cjsdowg
03/09/23 9:57:25 PM
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Zikten posted...
Tons of girls in Ukraine have been raped and murdered by the Russian invaders. The Russians are killing everyone. Not just the soldiers

I dont think anyone is suggesting that women are not being victimized here. Just that Clinton is down playing male victims

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A_Good_Boy
03/09/23 10:00:29 PM
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agoat posted...
I get that, but to say that they are the primary victims in the same week that an unarmed man was tortured and killed for saying "glory to Ukraine" is pretty shitty timing
Turns out the conflict extends past that one soldier. Turns out it extends past just this week.

Whodathunkit

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Zeeak4444
03/09/23 10:01:45 PM
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COVxy posted...
CE has a weird hateboner for Hillary. It doesn't matter what she says. The issue they take with the situation is that she's on a stage somewhere talking to an audience.

no, pretty sure its because she says dumb shit.

in this case Id say the dumbest part of the statement is that Ukraine is dramatically showing us the impact of climate change.

but Im not surprised you like her.

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COVxy
03/09/23 10:02:53 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
in this case Id say the dumbest part of the statement is that Ukraine is dramatically showing us the impact of climate change.

but Im not surprised you like her.

I'm not surprised you can't read.

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McMarbles
03/09/23 10:05:05 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1633457036112568322

Why does she keep saying this.
Probably because of all the rape.

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Zeeak4444
03/09/23 10:06:40 PM
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COVxy posted...
I'm not surprised you can't read.

oh sorry,

Dramatically showing us the impact on women climate change has.

Now I can say its dumb as fuck. It takes a dumbass to agree with one though, I guess.

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VampireCoyote
03/09/23 10:06:50 PM
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K181 posted...
Some of you guys are getting really weirdly upset by a fairly empty and banal statement.

yeah they are more upset about who is saying it and not what is being said

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Imit8m3
03/09/23 10:07:12 PM
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Buzzword, are the primary buzzword, of the buzzword.
-American politicians

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COVxy
03/09/23 10:08:32 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
oh sorry,

Dramatically showing us the impact on women climate change has.

Now I can say its dumb as fuck. It takes a dumbass to agree with one though, I guess.

If you want to showcase your illiteracy as some sort of gotchya, feel free. But that's certainly not the route I would take.

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Zeeak4444
03/09/23 10:24:44 PM
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COVxy posted...
If you want to showcase your illiteracy as some sort of gotchya, feel free. But that's certainly not the route I would take.

feel free to enlighten me at anytime how I read it wrong. Assuming you can, of course.

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Nukazie
03/09/23 10:25:45 PM
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is it time for the US to intervene because of this information?!

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Krojen
03/09/23 10:27:58 PM
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Ooooooranges posted...
I don't understand why her words are reported anymore. She's irrelevant and only says stupid things.
Because she has powerful friends in the media. Friends who also know every time she speaks, the odds of them having to pay their fair share of taxes goes down.

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Crazyman93
03/09/23 10:28:17 PM
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Hillary needs to Pokenon Go the fuck away.

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COVxy
03/09/23 10:29:24 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
feel free to enlighten me at anytime how I read it wrong. Assuming you can, of course.

Lol. Deliberately misreading this in order to get in a gotchya is even more pathetic than simply being illiterate.

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VampireCoyote
03/09/23 10:29:34 PM
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Krojen posted...
Because she has powerful friends in the media. Friends who also know every time she speaks, the odds of them having to pay their fair share of taxes goes down.

someone like MTG or Lauren Boebert gets way more reporting

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A_Good_Boy
03/09/23 10:31:54 PM
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agoat posted...
It was a stupid thing to say and a stupid time to say it.
whodathunkit
What's so stupid about what she said? Did Russia stop utilizing weaponized rape against Ukraine's women in the last few hours or something?

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Zeeak4444
03/09/23 10:33:12 PM
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COVxy posted...
Lol. Deliberately misreading this in order to get in a gotchya is even more pathetic than simply being illiterate.

So you cant explain how Im wrong. Got it.

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COVxy
03/09/23 10:35:40 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
So you cant explain how Im wrong. Got it.

Ever stop to think why nobody else is interpreting the climate change statement to be connected to the Ukraine statement?

Honestly can't tell if you are serious.

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xMythic
03/09/23 10:40:28 PM
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Its true. Women and children have always bore the brunt of whatever bullshit men create. You may hate the messenger, but it doesnt make her message any less true.

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Atralis
03/09/23 10:49:32 PM
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xMythic posted...
Its true. Women and children have always bore the brunt of whatever bullshit men create. You may hate the messenger, but it doesnt make her message any less true.

So the ~100,000 Ukrainian men that have died fighting to prevent Russia from brutally conquering their country should have just sat on their hands and let it happen in order to stop the cycle of males creating bullshit?

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm serious. Do you actually blame the Ukrainian men for this conflict for fighting and dying defending their country?
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VampireCoyote
03/09/23 10:54:18 PM
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Atralis posted...
So the ~100,000 Ukrainian men that have died fighting to prevent Russia from brutally conquering their country should have just sat on their hands and let it happen in order to stop the cycle of males creating bullshit?

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm serious. Do you actually blame the Ukrainian men for this conflict for fighting and dying defending their country?

imagine projecting your insecurities this hard

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A_Good_Boy
03/09/23 11:01:34 PM
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Atralis posted...
So the ~100,000 Ukrainian men that have died fighting to prevent Russia from brutally conquering their country should have just sat on their hands and let it happen in order to stop the cycle of males creating bullshit?

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm serious. Do you actually blame the Ukrainian men for this conflict for fighting and dying defending their country?
I feel like you're on the cusp of a revelation here.

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xMythic
03/09/23 11:03:18 PM
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Atralis posted...
So the ~100,000 Ukrainian men that have died fighting to prevent Russia from brutally conquering their country should have just sat on their hands and let it happen in order to stop the cycle of males creating bullshit?

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm serious. Do you actually blame the Ukrainian men for this conflict for fighting and dying defending their country?
Settle your goofy ass down. Take a breath and try a little reading comprehension. Nowhere did I say or imply the Ukrainian men shouldnt have fought back, nor did I blame them of anything. Men start the wars and women and children just have to deal with the fallout. Women are treated like spoils of war. Raped, tortured, and killed. Children suffer the same. Survivors lose their homes, their parents and loved ones.

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