Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 6: I'm a co-host, not a doctor

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TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 5:01:56 PM #51:	Crescent-Moon posted... She. If you're not gonna read half the shit I post anyway at least get my gender right. Easy girl don't think it was intentional --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972065292] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Crescent-Moon posted... </cite><quote>She.If you're not gonna read half the shit I post anyway at least get my gender right.</quote> Easy girl don't think it was intentional </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 5:06:22 PM #52:	Let's look at Sheep this game: "I'm ignoring that Han said he agreed with arguments on me in the literal post where he provides one more and pretending that he has only that one argument" "Han's unvote is bad and is also why he is Scum" "I baited Han's unvote... which I'm pretending he would have done as either alignment" "JC's Scan of Crescent was VERY BAD." (that's a perspective slip, since that one might be tougher for y'all) Just for him to lay out with "Do you think that Han saying who would be the best mislynch target on Day 2 is not a Scum kill is TOO MUCH INFORMATION?" Like Jesus Christ. Chris didn't make it past Day 1 because he wasn't playing well enough to meet Town Chris standards. Particularly in regard to me. He was asking pointless questions, he was making bad arguments. Sheep is a better player than this. Cop on. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972065373] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Let's look at Sheep this game:"I'm ignoring that Han said he agreed with arguments on me in the literal post where he provides one more and pretending that he has only that one argument""Han's unvote is bad and is also why he is Scum""I baited Han's unvote... which I'm pretending he would have done as either alignment""JC's Scan of Crescent was VERY BAD." (that's a perspective slip, since that one might be tougher for y'all)Just for him to lay out with "Do you think that Han saying who would be the best mislynch target on Day 2 is not a Scum kill is TOO MUCH INFORMATION?"Like Jesus Christ.Chris didn't make it past Day 1 because he wasn't playing well enough to meet Town Chris standards. Particularly in regard to me. He was asking pointless questions, he was making bad arguments.Sheep is a better player than this. Cop on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 5:06:56 PM #53:	TheSultanOfSlam posted... Easy girl don't think it was intentional You don't need to tell someone misgendered to calm down Sultan. That's kind of shitty. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972065385] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>TheSultanOfSlam posted... </cite><quote>Easy girl don't think it was intentional</quote>You don't need to tell someone misgendered to calm down Sultan. That's kind of shitty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 5:08:11 PM #54:	Idk if I have the energy right now but iso on Sheep wouldn't be a horrible idea --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972065405] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Idk if I have the energy right now but iso on Sheep wouldn't be a horrible idea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 5:09:26 PM #55:	HanOfTheNekos posted... You don't need to tell someone misgendered to calm down Sultan. That's kind of shitty. I also don't think she needed to get that snippy about it. Like it doesn't look intentional. This is how fights start here. And we don't need that --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972065428] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>You don't need to tell someone misgendered to calm down Sultan. That's kind of shitty.</quote>I also don't think she needed to get that snippy about it. Like it doesn't look intentional. This is how fights start here. And we don't need that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 03/09/23 5:10:05 PM #56:	Okay, I've had a bit to think over JC's reveal on Crescent and I'm not sure where I'm leaning. I'm just trying to think whether I buy the scan as a Town play or not. The thing that's making me lean no is that there is no safe scan for Scum to claim if they pick that role to fake. They have to chose their own scan that night, assuming they have one, or they have to clear me/Death. Ulti is a crapshoot considering he might well be lying about his role and they can't really afford to go one for one here. It's possible that claim was planned during N1, but Death or me was the intended target, and with Death gone they can't really afford to potentially confirm someone else? While that's a decent explanation for Scum claiming that... they could just claim something that isn't kinda nonsensical and out of the blue? That said, motion detector is kinda one of those roles that is relatively fakeable as scum? It's a pretty safe power claim, all things considered. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972065443] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Okay, I've had a bit to think over JC's reveal on Crescent and I'm not sure where I'm leaning. I'm just trying to think whether I buy the scan as a Town play or not. The thing that's making me lean no is that there is no safe scan for Scum to claim if they pick that role to fake. They have to chose their own scan that night, assuming they have one, or they have to clear me/Death. Ulti is a crapshoot considering he might well be lying about his role and they can't really afford to go one for one here. It's possible that claim was planned during N1, but Death or me was the intended target, and with Death gone they can't really afford to potentially confirm someone else?While that's a decent explanation for Scum claiming that... they could just claim something that isn't kinda nonsensical and out of the blue? That said, motion detector is kinda one of those roles that is relatively fakeable as scum? It's a pretty safe power claim, all things considered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 5:18:06 PM #57:	HanOfTheNekos posted... Let's look at Sheep this game: "I'm ignoring that Han said he agreed with arguments on me in the literal post where he provides one more and pretending that he has only that one argument" "Han's unvote is bad and is also why he is Scum" "I baited Han's unvote... which I'm pretending he would have done as either alignment" "JC's Scan of Crescent was VERY BAD." (that's a perspective slip, since that one might be tougher for y'all) Just for him to lay out with "Do you think that Han saying who would be the best mislynch target on Day 2 is not a Scum kill is TOO MUCH INFORMATION?" Like Jesus Christ. Chris didn't make it past Day 1 because he wasn't playing well enough to meet Town Chris standards. Particularly in regard to me. He was asking pointless questions, he was making bad arguments. Sheep is a better player than this. Cop on. Sheep has been very odd this game and I've never seen him anywhere near like this. The early impression I gave of him day 1 was he felt like someone who seemed disappointed to have rolled scum. A fair amount of today, like yesterday, has felt "off". I mean like by the time he made that accusation on you I don't even know how many people had already implied it, so why did he make it on you in the first place? And yes, his reaction to JC claiming a scan on me is extremely black and white and essentially just looks to be assuming we're both town when he didn't even really process JC until after the fact. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972065618] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>Let's look at Sheep this game:"I'm ignoring that Han said he agreed with arguments on me in the literal post where he provides one more and pretending that he has only that one argument""Han's unvote is bad and is also why he is Scum""I baited Han's unvote... which I'm pretending he would have done as either alignment""JC's Scan of Crescent was VERY BAD." (that's a perspective slip, since that one might be tougher for y'all)Just for him to lay out with "Do you think that Han saying who would be the best mislynch target on Day 2 is not a Scum kill is TOO MUCH INFORMATION?"Like Jesus Christ.Chris didn't make it past Day 1 because he wasn't playing well enough to meet Town Chris standards. Particularly in regard to me. He was asking pointless questions, he was making bad arguments.Sheep is a better player than this. Cop on.</quote>Sheep has been very odd this game and I've never seen him anywhere near like this. The early impression I gave of him day 1 was he felt like someone who seemed disappointed to have rolled scum.A fair amount of today, like yesterday, has felt "off". I mean like by the time he made that accusation on you I don't even know how many people had already implied it, so why did he make it on you in the first place?And yes, his reaction to JC claiming a scan on me is extremely black and white and essentially just looks to be assuming we're both town when he didn't even really process JC until after the fact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 03/09/23 5:21:48 PM #60:	Chaeix posted... Please see "I have to acknowledge that Crescent's vote was really the one that put the nail in Chris' coffin but I wouldn't put it past an enterprising scum player who sees the train (and thinks to themself that Chris' role is very hard to activate) to try and take it as a chance to end up on the right side of the lynch. As well, I am very prepared to take tons of grains of salt with the whole situation given that Chris was not around for EoD when he was a role that required him to be around for EoD." I don't think this really tracks. I don't expect Chris was likely to use this role unless it was a situation where he wants the doublevote the next day. It's very powerful but only once, likely nearer endgame (or if he needs to suicide vote someone to bring a single Town player down for numbers purposes if he gets caught). He could also use it to gank the fuck out of Scum, but that probably just raises questions when he's not immediately night killed. Chris as scum with a lategame wincon role is really strong and I think if you were genuinely reasoning out whether Crescent was Scum you would consider that. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972065713] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Please see "I have to acknowledge that Crescent's vote was really the one that put the nail in Chris' coffin but I wouldn't put it past an enterprising scum player who sees the train (and thinks to themself that Chris' role is very hard to activate) to try and take it as a chance to end up on the right side of the lynch. As well, I am very prepared to take tons of grains of salt with the whole situation given that Chris was not around for EoD when he was a role that required him to be around for EoD."</quote>I don't think this really tracks. I don't expect Chris was likely to use this role unless it was a situation where he wants the doublevote the next day. It's very powerful but only once, likely nearer endgame (or if he needs to suicide vote someone to bring a single Town player down for numbers purposes if he gets caught). He could also use it to gank the fuck out of Scum, but that probably just raises questions when he's not immediately night killed. Chris as scum with a lategame wincon role is really strong and I think if you were genuinely reasoning out whether Crescent was Scum you would consider that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 03/09/23 5:24:35 PM #62:	I understand the votes and I know I'm a pretty likely mislynch at some point this game, but can y'all at least make sure to wait til a couple of hours before EoD to put me at -2? I've not gotten as much chance as I would like to think everything over today and I'll be around tomorrow but only at similar hours, and while I don't think I'm exactly at my peak I still hope I can do enough digging to be relevant in later days if not change the minds of some of y'all. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972065776] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>I understand the votes and I know I'm a pretty likely mislynch at some point this game, but can y'all at least make sure to wait til a couple of hours before EoD to put me at -2? I've not gotten as much chance as I would like to think everything over today and I'll be around tomorrow but only at similar hours, and while I don't think I'm exactly at my peak I still hope I can do enough digging to be relevant in later days if not change the minds of some of y'all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 5:25:24 PM #63:	Chris' role is basically a setup role that lets scum autowin at lylo, under certain conditions. It's the kind of role he never would've used until the last moment, and scum with temporarily doublevoting powers has existed before. I remember Blade was once scum in a game that had a role like that, and he organized a scumhammer on a scumbuddy at lylo to set up the win. Just by setup meta, it essentially means there's zero chance scum has an EK of any sort, and likely means they have no unblockable kill. His flip alone was why any theory that involved scum possibly shooting twice last night was nonsense. But this is really all it tells us. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972065790] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Chris' role is basically a setup role that lets scum autowin at lylo, under certain conditions. It's the kind of role he never would've used until the last moment, and scum with temporarily doublevoting powers has existed before.I remember Blade was once scum in a game that had a role like that, and he organized a scumhammer on a scumbuddy at lylo to set up the win.Just by setup meta, it essentially means there's zero chance scum has an EK of any sort, and likely means they have no unblockable kill. His flip alone was why any theory that involved scum possibly shooting twice last night was nonsense.But this is really all it tells us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 5:30:19 PM #65:	... Hey Lea, I'm going to see a hockey game. While I'm gone, I trust you can keep some semblance of logic and sanity here. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972065881] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>...Hey Lea, I'm going to see a hockey game. While I'm gone, I trust you can keep some semblance of logic and sanity here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 5:31:01 PM #66:	HanOfTheNekos posted... ... Hey Lea, I'm going to see a hockey game. While I'm gone, I trust you can keep some semblance of logic and sanity here. You're trusting Lea to keep some semblance of sanity? That's it, we're dead. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972065899] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>...Hey Lea, I'm going to see a hockey game. While I'm gone, I trust you can keep some semblance of logic and sanity here.</quote>You're trusting Lea to keep some semblance of sanity?That's it, we're dead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 5:36:13 PM #68:	UltimaterializerX posted... Han is claiming a cop scan on you. Oh wait he is?? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972065996] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>Han is claiming a cop scan on you.</quote>Oh wait he is?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 03/09/23 5:41:55 PM #70:	Crescent-Moon posted... Just by setup meta, it essentially means there's zero chance scum has an EK of any sort, and likely means they have no unblockable kill. His flip alone was why any theory that involved scum possibly shooting twice last night was nonsense. Hm this is an interesting thought, and actually makes sense. Re: Sheep I've been taking a look back through Topic 2 where Chris and Sheep had a few exchanges: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80370531?page=2 SirChris posted... Anyway now that we've discussed Sheep a lot, and we can just murder him later if we want since vanilla claims are nice safety valves (hint sheep get your head on straight if you are town please) This comment strikes me as a little strange, especially given that I went back and looked and Chris honestly didn't really talk about Sheep that much until after that post? But after he did have a fairly comprehensive reply to Ctes about Sheep that provided some insight (Post 146), but I'm not sure it reads well for Sheep: SirChris posted... I think for the perspective of scum sheep botched this to be valid it would indicate that I really put the screws to him and managed to disrupt his game to the point where he panicked. If Chris knew that Sheep was in fact a town vanilla, would Chris throw out this soft defense? I feel like scum would keep the possibility of scum Sheep more in the limelight if he knew Sheep was a lowly vanilla and easy mislynch target. This oozes a soft defense and redirection tbh. It's hard to speculate because Chris' brain is running a game of 4D chess at all times though. --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:972066096] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Crescent-Moon posted... </cite><quote>Just by setup meta, it essentially means there's zero chance scum has an EK of any sort, and likely means they have no unblockable kill. His flip alone was why any theory that involved scum possibly shooting twice last night was nonsense.</quote>Hm this is an interesting thought, and actually makes sense.Re: Sheep I've been taking a look back through Topic 2 where Chris and Sheep had a few exchanges: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80370531?page=2<cite>SirChris posted... </cite><quote>Anyway now that we've discussed Sheep a lot, and we can just murder him later if we want since vanilla claims are nice safety valves (hint sheep get your head on straight if you are town please)</quote>This comment strikes me as a little strange, especially given that I went back and looked and Chris honestly didn't really talk about Sheep that much until after that post? But after he did have a fairly comprehensive reply to Ctes about Sheep that provided some insight (Post 146), but I'm not sure it reads well for Sheep:<cite>SirChris posted... </cite><quote>I think for the perspective of scum sheep botched this to be valid it would indicate that I really put the screws to him and managed to disrupt his game to the point where he panicked.</quote>If Chris knew that Sheep was in fact a town vanilla, would Chris throw out this soft defense? I feel like scum would keep the possibility of scum Sheep more in the limelight if he knew Sheep was a lowly vanilla and easy mislynch target. This oozes a soft defense and redirection tbh. It's hard to speculate because Chris' brain is running a game of 4D chess at all times though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 03/09/23 5:47:08 PM #71:	UltimaterializerX posted... Han is claiming a cop scan on you. No he isn't. Crescent-Moon posted... Sheep has been very odd this game and I've never seen him anywhere near like this. The early impression I gave of him day 1 was he felt like someone who seemed disappointed to have rolled scum. A fair amount of today, like yesterday, has felt "off". I mean like by the time he made that accusation on you I don't even know how many people had already implied it, so why did he make it on you in the first place? Idk if it's much reassurance but I'm genuinely never disappointed to roll Scum. I enjoy playing Scum more than Town tbh (if you wanted to you could find my last full game and see how hard I went D1 even after getting nuked as Scum D1 in the game immediately prior). There are external reasons why my game has gone the way it has that I think it's manipulative for me to get into and so I don't really think it's right for me to discuss them. So yes, things have been odd this game, and I have been off, but I'm trying my best and I'm still a stubborn arse who wants to work this game out without giving up, hence why I'm still at it despite not being 100%. I think basically everyone on my back is Town (and thought that yesterday when I gained traction too) and I'm annoyed at myself because I entirely understand why I'm being voted. This is the way things are this game - my behaviour being weird does not mean I'm scum, it's just what is happening right now. If that's not a convincing enough reason, that's fair and I'll just have to do my best to give y'all other motivations to not lynch me. And to address your second paragraph, I didn't really clock the other people suggesting that with the point I was at in my reread, and I was a bit irritated and that post was me being petty towards Han (hence the apology shortly afterwards). --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972066230] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>Han is claiming a cop scan on you.</quote>No he isn't.Crescent-Moon posted... </cite><quote>Sheep has been very odd this game and I've never seen him anywhere near like this. The early impression I gave of him day 1 was he felt like someone who seemed disappointed to have rolled scum.A fair amount of today, like yesterday, has felt "off". I mean like by the time he made that accusation on you I don't even know how many people had already implied it, so why did he make it on you in the first place?</quote>Idk if it's much reassurance but I'm genuinely never disappointed to roll Scum. I enjoy playing Scum more than Town tbh (if you wanted to you could find my last full game and see how hard I went D1 even after getting nuked as Scum D1 in the game immediately prior). There are external reasons why my game has gone the way it has that I think it's manipulative for me to get into and so I don't really think it's right for me to discuss them. So yes, things have been odd this game, and I have been off, but I'm trying my best and I'm still a stubborn arse who wants to work this game out without giving up, hence why I'm still at it despite not being 100%. I think basically everyone on my back is Town (and thought that yesterday when I gained traction too) and I'm annoyed at myself because I entirely understand why I'm being voted. This is the way things are this game - my behaviour being weird does not mean I'm scum, it's just what is happening right now. If that's not a convincing enough reason, that's fair and I'll just have to do my best to give y'all other motivations to not lynch me.And to address your second paragraph, I didn't really clock the other people suggesting that with the point I was at in my reread, and I was a bit irritated and that post was me being petty towards Han (hence the apology shortly afterwards).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/09/23 5:48:48 PM #72:	Im 95% on town ctes but after the Han/ctes madness in Paper Mario, lets not rule out death being scums actual target to set up a doc saved someone and Im town vigilante claim for scum ctes --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:972066278] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Im 95% on town ctes but after the Han/ctes madness in Paper Mario, lets not rule out death being scums actual target to set up a doc saved someone and Im town vigilante claim for scum ctes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 03/09/23 5:49:19 PM #73:	Also, re: my interactions with Chris - I think I interacted with him a lot in the vein of asking him questions and trying to prod out his responses. I can't really tell y'all how to think about those interactions, but there's a lot of data to work on if you want to see how he reacted to me and draw your own conclusions. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972066287] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Also, re: my interactions with Chris - I think I interacted with him a lot in the vein of asking him questions and trying to prod out his responses. I can't really tell y'all how to think about those interactions, but there's a lot of data to work on if you want to see how he reacted to me and draw your own conclusions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 5:52:41 PM #74:	wallmasterz posted... Im 95% on town ctes but after the Han/ctes madness in Paper Mario, lets not rule out death being scums actual target to set up a doc saved someone and Im town vigilante claim for scum ctes With most of the game unclaimed the chances town has something that could counterclaim killing seems rather high though. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972066372] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>Im 95% on town ctes but after the Han/ctes madness in Paper Mario, lets not rule out death being scums actual target to set up a doc saved someone and Im town vigilante claim for scum ctes</quote>With most of the game unclaimed the chances town has something that could counterclaim killing seems rather high though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 03/09/23 5:53:44 PM #75:	wallmasterz posted... Im 95% on town ctes but after the Han/ctes madness in Paper Mario, lets not rule out death being scums actual target to set up a doc saved someone and Im town vigilante claim for scum ctes If you're that sure on Town Ctes, how're you feeling about the rest of the game? I'm currently fairly happy to say everyone on the Chris lynch was Town (feel free to disagree but that's the premise I'm running on here). Given that, and you thinking yourself and Ctes are both Town, would that leave you thinking there's three Scum in Dumey/Isquen/JC/Myself? --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972066398] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>Im 95% on town ctes but after the Han/ctes madness in Paper Mario, lets not rule out death being scums actual target to set up a doc saved someone and Im town vigilante claim for scum ctes</quote>If you're that sure on Town Ctes, how're you feeling about the rest of the game?I'm currently fairly happy to say everyone on the Chris lynch was Town (feel free to disagree but that's the premise I'm running on here). Given that, and you thinking yourself and Ctes are both Town, would that leave you thinking there's three Scum in Dumey/Isquen/JC/Myself?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/09/23 5:54:03 PM #76:	Crescent-Moon posted... With most of the game unclaimed the chances town has something that could counterclaim killing seems rather high though. Im not saying its probable --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:972066407] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Crescent-Moon posted... </cite><quote>With most of the game unclaimed the chances town has something that could counterclaim killing seems rather high though.</quote>Im not saying its probable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/09/23 6:02:05 PM #77:	I think jcs weak tracker is a scum role, and jc did what he did to wiggle his way out of trouble. Hes still not the worst d2 lynch candidate since if hes a mislynch, its such a weak role. But Im guessing most people agree with ulti to bark up a different tree for now and revisit jc later --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:972066604] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>I think jcs weak tracker is a scum role, and jc did what he did to wiggle his way out of trouble. Hes still not the worst d2 lynch candidate since if hes a mislynch, its such a weak role. But Im guessing most people agree with ulti to bark up a different tree for now and revisit jc later </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 03/09/23 6:03:09 PM #78:	I'm not 100% sure if it was aimed at it, but that doesn't exactly answer my question, Wall. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972066629] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>I'm not 100% sure if it was aimed at it, but that doesn't exactly answer my question, Wall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/09/23 6:06:42 PM #79:	Sheep007 posted... If you're that sure on Town Ctes, how're you feeling about the rest of the game? I'm currently fairly happy to say everyone on the Chris lynch was Town (feel free to disagree but that's the premise I'm running on here). Given that, and you thinking yourself and Ctes are both Town, would that leave you thinking there's three Scum in Dumey/Isquen/JC/Myself? yes sorry I completely didnt answer your question at all. Its dinner and bath time here on the east coast with three little kids. Ill give a proper answer in a bit --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:972066723] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Sheep007 posted... </cite><quote>If you're that sure on Town Ctes, how're you feeling about the rest of the game?I'm currently fairly happy to say everyone on the Chris lynch was Town (feel free to disagree but that's the premise I'm running on here). Given that, and you thinking yourself and Ctes are both Town, would that leave you thinking there's three Scum in Dumey/Isquen/JC/Myself?</quote>yes sorry I completely didnt answer your question at all. Its dinner and bath time here on the east coast with three little kids. Ill give a proper answer in a bit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 03/09/23 6:17:08 PM #80:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I discussed things more with Chris and had more of a feel for him, his scumreads were pretty similar to mine (I think I remember he started bringing up Sultan possibly being Scum and behaving weirdly originally at almost the exact time I thought that, which I often take as a town sign). Meanwhile, I didn't really like any of Han's directions of attack. I also think my approach to the game was mostly more similar to Chris' in the middle of D1, and my gut twinged a few times telling me "yeah, Chris doesn't feel like he's manipulating me too much this game", and I believed it. Which, looking back, probably shoulda been a sign Chris was manipulating me (him basically laying off and telling me to sort myself out helped me keep it together a little more going into the second half of the day, which ironically might gotten me out of the spotlight and gotten him killed. It definitely ingratiated me to him a lil bit and he probably coulda pocketed me going forwards if we'd both survived). I've been kicking myself a lil reading back because... I correctly identified that Chris' arguments for Sultan, Ulti and even Han were pretty dreadful? I didn't ever make the connection that Chris was just Scum based on those and just ended up going with my gut. Bleh. Will not beat myself up on this too much because it's done now (and my gut was at least right on Death >_>), but will try and adjust going forwards. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972066976] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I discussed things more with Chris and had more of a feel for him, his scumreads were pretty similar to mine (I think I remember he started bringing up Sultan possibly being Scum and behaving weirdly originally at almost the exact time I thought that, which I often take as a town sign). Meanwhile, I didn't really like any of Han's directions of attack. I also think my approach to the game was mostly more similar to Chris' in the middle of D1, and my gut twinged a few times telling me "yeah, Chris doesn't feel like he's manipulating me too much this game", and I believed it. Which, looking back, probably shoulda been a sign Chris was manipulating me (him basically laying off and telling me to sort myself out helped me keep it together a little more going into the second half of the day, which ironically might gotten me out of the spotlight and gotten him killed. It definitely ingratiated me to him a lil bit and he probably coulda pocketed me going forwards if we'd both survived). I've been kicking myself a lil reading back because... I correctly identified that Chris' arguments for Sultan, Ulti and even Han were pretty dreadful? I didn't ever make the connection that Chris was just Scum based on those and just ended up going with my gut. Bleh. Will not beat myself up on this too much because it's done now (and my gut was at least right on Death >_>), but will try and adjust going forwards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 03/09/23 6:19:48 PM #81:	wallmasterz posted... yes sorry I completely didnt answer your question at all. Its dinner and bath time here on the east coast with three little kids. Ill give a proper answer in a bit No worries man, I'm off for tonight now so no rush. Don't feel bad about leaving people hanging if you've got other things to do, better to offer a full answer when you can rather than leave yourself open to misrepresentation or only providing half-baked info. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:972067044] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>yes sorry I completely didnt answer your question at all. Its dinner and bath time here on the east coast with three little kids. Ill give a proper answer in a bit</quote>No worries man, I'm off for tonight now so no rush. Don't feel bad about leaving people hanging if you've got other things to do, better to offer a full answer when you can rather than leave yourself open to misrepresentation or only providing half-baked info.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 6:38:26 PM #84:	UltimaterializerX posted... Im not the only one that sees it, right? I saw it didn't buy it as a legit claim --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972067443] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>Im not the only one that sees it, right?</quote>I saw it didn't buy it as a legit claim</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 6:40:44 PM #85:	Do you think he waits this long to claim it though ulti? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972067481] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Do you think he waits this long to claim it though ulti?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 03/09/23 6:40:53 PM #86:	Votals: [3] Sheep - Han, Lea, Ulti [1] Isquen: Sheep, (Ulti) [1] JC: (Han), Sultan, (Wallz) [0] Ulti: (Sultan) [0] Sultan: (BCT) It takes 7 votes to lynch. Day ends in approximately 25.4 hours --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:972067483] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Votals:[3] Sheep - Han, Lea, Ulti[1] Isquen: Sheep, (Ulti)[1] JC: (Han), Sultan, (Wallz)[0] Ulti: (Sultan)[0] Sultan: (BCT)It takes 7 votes to lynch. Day ends in approximately 25.4 hours</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 7:11:10 PM #88:	Man this has died. Maybe sheep is scum and everyone else went into hiding? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972068135] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Man this has died. Maybe sheep is scum and everyone else went into hiding?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 03/09/23 7:17:17 PM #89:	Ctes isn't necessarily town - he could have scum's extra kill. Entirely possible that's what it was, and he's just claiming town vig to disguise it. I haven't decided either way yet. Han's claim of a cop scan on Sheep is certainly plausible. And frankly, I don't like how Sheep hasn't yet claimed. One would think that, after a few votes, a townie wouldn't be like "please wait until EoD to -2 me, thanks!" like Sheep is here; they'd claim to tell town to stop. Certainly what I'd do, though I'd rather not right now. ##vote: Sheep --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:972068266] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Ctes isn't necessarily town - he could have scum's extra kill. Entirely possible that's what it was, and he's just claiming town vig to disguise it. I haven't decided either way yet.Han's claim of a cop scan on Sheep is certainly plausible. And frankly, I don't like how Sheep hasn't yet claimed. One would think that, after a few votes, a townie wouldn't be like "please wait until EoD to -2 me, thanks!" like Sheep is here; they'd claim to tell town to stop. Certainly what I'd do, though I'd rather not right now.##vote: Sheep</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 03/09/23 7:20:07 PM #91:	BlueCrystalTear posted... Ctes isn't necessarily town - he could have scum's extra kill. Entirely possible that's what it was, and he's just claiming town vig to disguise it. I haven't decided either way yet. Han's claim of a cop scan on Sheep is certainly plausible. And frankly, I don't like how Sheep hasn't yet claimed. One would think that, after a few votes, a townie wouldn't be like "please wait until EoD to -2 me, thanks!" like Sheep is here; they'd claim to tell town to stop. Certainly what I'd do, though I'd rather not right now. ##vote: Sheep there is zero chance BCT and Sheep are scumbuddies if BCT still thinks Sheep hasnt claimed >_> --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:972068331] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>BlueCrystalTear posted... </cite><quote>Ctes isn't necessarily town - he could have scum's extra kill. Entirely possible that's what it was, and he's just claiming town vig to disguise it. I haven't decided either way yet.Han's claim of a cop scan on Sheep is certainly plausible. And frankly, I don't like how Sheep hasn't yet claimed. One would think that, after a few votes, a townie wouldn't be like "please wait until EoD to -2 me, thanks!" like Sheep is here; they'd claim to tell town to stop. Certainly what I'd do, though I'd rather not right now.##vote: Sheep</quote>there is zero chance BCT and Sheep are scumbuddies if BCT still thinks Sheep hasnt claimed >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 7:20:10 PM #92:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Oh this feels obvious to me but I've been letting it marinate a bit to see what shakes out. I just thought he meant to write "Come on" because that makes way more sense than "Cop on" and something weird happened. Ulti sure has been cop fishing today. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972068334] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Oh this feels obvious to me but I've been letting it marinate a bit to see what shakes out. I just thought he meant to write "Come on" because that makes way more sense than "Cop on" and something weird happened.Ulti sure has been cop fishing today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 7:21:11 PM #93:	Chaeix posted... there is zero chance BCT and Sheep are scumbuddies if BCT still thinks Sheep hasnt claimed >_> I agree with this but I think BCT isn't scum anyway --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972068357] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>there is zero chance BCT and Sheep are scumbuddies if BCT still thinks Sheep hasnt claimed >_></quote>I agree with this but I think BCT isn't scum anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 03/09/23 7:24:27 PM #94:	Chaeix posted... there is zero chance BCT and Sheep are scumbuddies if BCT still thinks Sheep hasnt claimed >_> Oh yeah, that was Sheep D1, not somebody else. Whoops. I don't know what became of me, my apologies. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:972068430] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>there is zero chance BCT and Sheep are scumbuddies if BCT still thinks Sheep hasnt claimed >_></quote>Oh yeah, that was Sheep D1, not somebody else. Whoops.I don't know what became of me, my apologies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 03/09/23 7:28:20 PM #96:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm saying it's plausible. Sheep's fake-out "oh I was gonna claim" to "I'm just a Vanillager" would warrant an actual scan, would it not? --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:972068516] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'm saying it's plausible. Sheep's fake-out "oh I was gonna claim" to "I'm just a Vanillager" would warrant an actual scan, would it not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 03/09/23 7:36:20 PM #98:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] ok then, whatev rolls eyes and leaves --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:972068680] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> ok then, whatevrolls eyes and leaves</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 7:37:30 PM #99:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You mean scanning and outing unclaimed, near-obvious town wouldn't be a good play if JC is town? Perish the thought! --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972068706] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You mean scanning and outing unclaimed, near-obvious town wouldn't be a good play if JC is town?Perish the thought!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 7:48:28 PM #100:	"cop on" isn't a typo. That's a real phrase --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972068941] in Star Trek ... [t:80373888]...</cite> <quote>"cop on" isn't a typo. That's a real phrase</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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