Current Events > Society is far too obsessed with violence. No wonder we're doomed

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Seriously. Look at the top tv shows, movies, video games, and music every year. Theyre filled with guns, war, shootings, talk about fighting and violence, and glamorize violence constantly.

People are obsessed with true crime podcasts, watching murder trials on TV, and are bombarded with gun culture in the media constantly.

Wanna know why violence and crime are up? Because were obsessed with it as humans, and it will 100% be the reason for our downfall.

SlySpyBalloon posted...

Wanna know why violence and crime are up?

video games!

Problem is you have a ton of people who would rather hand wave and say shit like "it sells" or "it's always been like that" or whatever.

Or the guys who act like Call Of Duty doesn't actually influence real life shootings.

You sound like mamaw

Media without killing is soo boring tho

LinkDaLunatic posted...

video games!

Video game are part of it, yes.

The Coliseum dawg

You know what's wrong with Skyrim these days? Everyone's obsessed with death.

SlySpyBalloon posted...

Wanna know why violence and crime are up?

Lack of a decent social safety net probably, amongst other things.

Trickfinger posted...

Problem is you have a ton of people who would rather hand wave and say shit like "it sells" or "it's always been like that" or whatever.

Or the guys who act like Call Of Duty doesn't actually influence real life shootings.

Honestly I used to be the guy who rolled his eyes when people would blame video games for shootings in society. Especially back in the Jack Thompson days.

but I def think its part of it now. Not the root cause by any means. But as games get more realistic and younger and younger kids are playing games like COD, I cant help but think theres a correlation there.

Southernfatman posted...

Lack of a decent social safety net probably.

ding ding ding. the true cause of increasing crime and violence right now.

Imagine GTAO generation of kids being adults.

SlySpyBalloon posted...

Honestly I used to be the guy who rolled his eyes when people would blame video games for shootings in society. Especially back in the Jack Thompson days.

but I def think its part of it now. Not the root cause by any means. But as games get more realistic and younger and younger kids are playing games like COD, I cant help but think theres a correlation there.

Exactly. The fuck is a 9 year old playing a photorealistic FPS game for.

COD and Battlefield damn enar look like real life these days.

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Agreed. People even ITT trying to pinpoint it one one thing only are ridiculous IMO. Its a multitude of factors at play, but the most blatantly obvious, all encompassing obsession with violence in society as a whole stands out to me.

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Because it's not really accurate to claim it's media's fault.

For example, violent crimes statistically tend to correlate with a living wage.

Struggling neighborhoods tend to have more violent crime.

That's just one of the many factors that go into violence.

It's also crazy to act like a lot of violence being is a recent thing in the human experience. Multimedia was not always a thing, so if you think humans are violent now, you clearly don't know much about history and the senseless violence of our past. Dare say humans were much worse with each generation we go back.

Southernfatman posted...

You know what's wrong with Skyrim these days? Everyone's obsessed with death.

I thought it was those damn Khajit

t5yvxc posted...

Because it's not really accurate to claim it's media's fault.

For example, violent crimes statistically tend to correlate with a living wage.

Struggling neighborhoods tend to have more violent crime.

That's just one of the many factors that go into violence.

It's also crazy to act like violence being a recent thing in the human experience. Multimedia was not always a thing, so if you think humans are violent now, you clearly don't know much about history and the senseless violence of our past

human beings back then didnt have the capabilities they have todays.

some 19 year old neck beard back in the Viking age couldnt kill 20+ people by holding down a trigger for a few seconds

But seriously there is some truth in what you're saying, I just wouldn't put it as what will end us. I think our greed/selfishness and short sightedness will do that before our wrath.

ArchNemo posted...

I thought it was those damn Khajit

Ok Stormcloak.

SlySpyBalloon posted...

human beings back then didnt have the capabilities they have todays.

some 19 year old neck beard back in the Viking age couldnt kill 20+ people by holding down a trigger for a few seconds

That has literally less to do with multimedia and more to do with the advancement of technological weaponry.

Your post didn't change a thing I said. I wouldn't humans of the past who were even worse being ignorant of basic science, ambitions of conquest, and even worse religious fanatics with 2023 weaponry at their disposal.

Just going back 4 centuries people were being murdered for "witchcraft."

t5yvxc posted...

That has literally less to do with multimedia and more to do with the advancement of technological weaponry.

Your post didn't change a thing I said.

well maybe you should consider using the edit button because your post is filled with fallacies

SlySpyBalloon posted...

well maybe you should consider using the edit button because your post is filled with fallacies

Your entire topic is based on a fallacy of blaming multimedia. Humans have always been violent. They were even worse prior to movies and video games.

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The whole I played video games and came out fine argument always bothers me too. Im not blaming just video games, but societys obsession with violence, murder and guns. Video games are just a part of that overall obsession.

t5yvxc posted...

Your entire topic is based on a fallacy of blaming multimedia. Humans have always been violent. They were even worse prior to movies and video games.

I cant imagine defending violent media and saying its not one of the reasons why people grow up violent lmao.

there are always different reasons for violence. Back then, the reasons were simple. Society wasnt civilized. There werent laws in place. There werent governments strong enough to even have laws.

youre comparing apples to oranges and burying your head in the sand at the cause which is sitting right in front of you.

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Look at whats popular in media. Anything with violence. Its what sells, because its what people want to consume. The media knows that. The news networks absolutely know that.

Humans are obsessed with violence, and media taps into that obsession to make more and more people obsessed globally.

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A more violent society

SlySpyBalloon posted...

I cant imagine defending violent media and saying its not one of the reasons why people grow up violent lmao.

there are always different reasons for violence. Back then, the reasons were simple. Society wasnt civilized. There werent laws in place. There werent governments strong enough to even have laws.

youre comparing apples to oranges and burying your head in the sand at the cause which is sitting right in front of you.

There definitely were laws and governments in place long before electronic media and those very civilized cultures loved violence. From Roman gladiators to the inquisition to public executions in 19th century Europe... Humanity has always had a thing for violence.

TC, I really don't get your point in acting like media is the problem.

If you are trying to blame video games, music and tv for violence, that's not a good argument. You do know those things were not around in medieval Europe, Ivan the Terrible, Genghis Khan, the autrocities in the name of religion? We don't even have to look that far back before things like video games and movies were a thing.

SlySpyBalloon posted...

I cant imagine defending violent media and saying its not one of the reasons why people grow up violent lmao.

Being frank I don't think it is. Humans are just violent creatures. If anything, I'd argue education, lifting people out of poverty, and less greed would contribute to less violence.

With humans being such violent creatures, I'd go even further to argue media provides a much better alternative outlet since we are so violent.

NatsuSama posted...

TC, I really don't get your point in acting like media is the problem.

If you are trying to blame video games, music and tv for violence, that's not a good argument. You do know those things were not around in medieval Europe, Ivan the Terrible, Genghis Khan, the autrocities in the name of religion? We don't even have to look that far back before things like video games and movies were a thing.

comparing two things that make zero sense to compare

SlySpyBalloon posted...

comparing two things that make zero sense to compare

They make complete sense to compare. You just don't like the fact that violence is a big part of human history that existed long before video games, TV and movies even existed.

Humans are just violent animals.

NatsuSama posted...

They make complete sense to compare. You just don't like the fact that violence is a big part of human history that existed long before video games, TV and movies even existed.

Humans are just violent animals.

NatsuSama posted...

They make complete sense to compare. You just don't like the fact that violence is a big part of human history that existed long before video games, TV and movies even existed.

Humans are just violent animals.

NatsuSama posted...

They make complete sense to compare. You just don't like the fact that violence is a big part of human history that existed long before video games, TV and movies even existed.

Humans are just violent animals.

I dont disagree that humans are violent animals. But the internet and media makes it even more widespread.

SlySpyBalloon posted...

I dont disagree that humans are violent animals. But the internet and media makes it even more widespread.

It doesn't. It's not doing anything to actually make violence any better or worse than it always has been throughout history.

If anything, humans are less violent than our ancestors through education.

If anything, the media is being used to placate us into not being violent, without having to improve our material conditions.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

If anything, the media is being used to placate us into not being violent, without having to improve our material conditions.

Lmao what a bad take

SlySpyBalloon posted...

Lmao what a bad take

I'd argue your take was bad.

asdf8562 posted...

I'd argue your take was bad.

Embarrassing to think that medias obsession with violence isnt making us more violent.