Board 8 > Paper Mario Mafia Topic 3 - Hey Mario! I'm Goombario. I'm your biggest fan!

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yeah dont tar me with that decision lol

Hb, when are you going to say names other than Sultan?

Yeah I think thats why I got confused since HB was on the Red lynch last game and Red responded with that incident when I was talking about Kirby

Still, I think Kirby has seen enough specials by now to not be so eager for them. But what do I know.

No wait he wasnt even on that lynch, sorry HB

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hb, when are you going to say names other than Sultan?

here's one: isquen's probably not scum

Ben - quiet and unmotivated, not sure how often hes actually been here.

Kirby - i dont have any outstanding thoughts one way or another but my mind is naturally distrustful of a couple people that have voted for him early.

Isquen - i hate when people make give up posts, instinctually makes me want to murder.

Peaf - tries to post like someone that isn't basically a newbie to current b8fia but clearly is and it bugs me. No real lean currently.

*insert GIF of man falling down stairs with Death's name crudely photoshopped over the face.*

I did that in reverse order out of spite.

Hbthebattle posted...

here's one: isquen's probably not scum

Reason?

Leafeon13N posted...

Reason?

because he's the only one on his side on the sultan thing lmao

Leafeon13N posted...

Reason?

This is how he acts every game, and nearly every game he gets early lynched because of it. People on that lynch, especially Han and Lea who were making similar comments about how going after Sultan's fuckups is "lazy", should know better, and it makes me suspicious. Also, yeah, he's mindmelded with me a bit with some of his comments, so I think he's probably safe for now.

though real-talk i think han looks the best on the isquen lynch rn, mostly he feels quite different than how he was last game, but not the greatest either

Pregame topic: "Hey, guys, I'm gonna have some availability issues."
In topic: "So here's my hours. I'll be back after this time."
Four hours before I can do more than fiddle on my phone because I work public service: "Hey, let's put some pressure on Isq" and the votes swerve.

*Fluoride stare*

You're not being voted for your availability Isquen.

EDumey posted...

You're not being voted for your availability Isquen.

is he not? is not part of the argument against him that he keeps popping up, saying weird things, and then refusing to explain them?

Hbthebattle posted...

People on that lynch, especially Han and Lea who were making similar comments about how going after Sultan's fuckups is "lazy"

I don't believe I did this.

Hbthebattle posted...

is he not? is not part of the argument against him that he keeps popping up, saying weird things, and then refusing to explain them?

That's not because he's unavailable though. Refusing to explain things implies that he is here and making posts, but just not explaining the things being asked of him.

Isquen posted...

Pregame topic: "Hey, guys, I'm gonna have some availability issues."
In topic: "So here's my hours. I'll be back after this time."
Four hours before I can do more than fiddle on my phone because I work public service: "Hey, let's put some pressure on Isq" and the votes swerve.

*Fluoride stare*

What and who are you talking about?

Isquen are you here now tho?

Nvm I read this wrong. But yeah not voting you based on availability

htaeD posted...

Isquen are you here now tho?

Yes. There's been a lot to go through since yesterday and almost none of it was useful at first glance.

Not a big fan of Kirby peaceing out with 4 hours to go. Even if his work is super heavy I would expect him to take a bathroom break or something.

Plus how would @ing him help at all? This isn't discord. Is he refreshing gamefaqs looking for notificataions without clicking in the topic?

Oh, sorry Ing

What is the arument for Isquen? I missed that thread

masterplum posted...

What is the arument for Isquen? I missed that thread

Go see the post I quoted when I tossed my vote back on him. Otherwise, it's similar to anybody else who has been inactive, but only with Isquen saying things sometimes

I'm just about to go on break, I can write up a hopefully more concise argument on Isquen that he can respond to. Gimme a little bit.

Isquen posted...

Yes. There's been a lot to go through since yesterday and almost none of it was useful at first glance.

Well I wouldnt want your remaining time to be fully stuck on selfdefense but I hope you can answer me how you feel about the Kirby voters now

masterplum posted...

Not a big fan of Kirby peaceing out with 4 hours to go. Even if his work is super heavy I would expect him to take a bathroom break or something.

I even tried to @ him the minute he posted :(

htaeD posted...

Well I wouldnt want your remaining time to be fully stuck on selfdefense but I hope you can answer me how you feel about the Kirby voters now

The initial 3?

Han: doing usual Han things of acting like a cat got into the cream, leading the misinformation train as he do despite tagging me as erratic (yes) and saying it was a town read.
Lea: Has moxie. I'll give her that. I still feel like she's cozying up to Han, but that isn't indicative of her alignment at all.
Sultan: Almost reads like he's channeling Hangut, because he has no other reason for voting me beyond OMGUSUGUYS.

I dont think Kirby was saying he'd be gone from now on (just before deadline), but it sure does look like it so far

htaeD posted...

I dont think Kirby was saying he'd be gone from now on (just before deadline), but it sure does look like it so far

I thought the implication was gone through deadline but @ if you are going to try to murder him.

I feel like the word OMGUS is going around in circles that I am not aware of, and that is not good.

Sultan not knowing the word should not be something he'd deliberately fake ignorance of as scum anyway.

But that I suppose is meant to explain why you treated the votes differently. You also said you found Kirby's reaction to it 'telling'
What did you mean with that, Isquen? Can you recall?

red13n posted...

I thought the implication was gone through deadline but @ if you are going to try to murder him.

Oh thats not me
And if he didnt respond to Peafs @, I dont know why he would see mine.

htaeD posted...

You also said you found Kirby's reaction to it 'telling'

Where was this?

Isquen posted...

The initial 3?

Han: doing usual Han things of acting like a cat got into the cream, leading the misinformation train as he do despite tagging me as erratic (yes) and saying it was a town read.

The funny thing is that this isn't accurate at all.

But anyway, here's what you posted before, along with questions:

Something about this seems off (and apologies for my future inactivity, today's commuting day and I'm leaving in a few minutes.)

Something about what seemed off? And in what way?

Sultan: your reaction to my post was extremely delayed. I was around for HOURS after that, why are you pointing it out so long after I went to bed?

He said he wanted to get something to happen so he went back and highlighted something that stood out. What does that make you think?

Kirby: Glazing over your word, you salad neglected the Origami King. Shame.

Why add fluff like this in the middle of saying nothing?

Lea: I'm not entirely happy with how quickly you jumped on the Kirby vote with Han, even if the reaction Kirby gave is a bit telling. But...

What reaction did Kirby give that was telling? And why, if it WAS telling, do you not like Lea hopping on it?

Sultan again: What was that vote. What.

What was it about Sultan's vote that made you think it was the best thing you've ever seen in a Mafia game?

Isquen posted...

The initial 3?

I wasn't that long after, was I? Kind of sis for you to exclude me.

Isquen posted...

Where was this?

Back in topic 1 when you made your catchup post that was not well received.

Something about this seems off (and apologies for my future inactivity, today's commuting day and I'm leaving in a few minutes.)

Sultan: your reaction to my post was extremely delayed. I was around for HOURS after that, why are you pointing it out so long after I went to bed?

Kirby: Glazing over your word, you salad neglected the Origami King. Shame.

Lea: I'm not entirely happy with how quickly you jumped on the Kirby vote with Han, even if the reaction Kirby gave is a bit telling. But...

Sultan again: What was that vote. What.

Man way late on that

I posted in 2.199 an ISO of Isquen if you trust my interpretation of events.

Isquen's main contributions were his soft flavor claim which generated some conversation.
Then he called out Lea and Sultan's vote on Kirby in particular as looking bad (but not mentioning Peaf at all).
His catchup post in 1.206 got a bit of flak from multiple people.
Important context: The last couple pages of Topic 1 and the first page or so of Topic 2 were largely centered around HB going after Sultan, and multiple people defending Sultan/attacking HB for having bad logic.
Isquen reappears in 2.053 for another catch-up post. He seems to imply that Sultan is getting a lot of pressure, and theorizes about scum bussing Sultan. (I think this might be a perspective slip, but no one else has really agreed with me here.) He then aligns himself with HB and says that "opens up a whole other list of reads" that he doesn't want to share with us.
When he appears again in 2.253 he posts complete fluff, and does not elaborate on any of the previous information that was asked of him. He said he was still suspicious of Sultan because Sultan did not know what OMGUS meant.
Now he's come back and soft claimed Vanilla or Passive Power.

Isquen:

1. You thought Sultan's vote on Kirby looked bad. HB got into a long argument about this same thing at the end of Topic 1. After having a chance to reread or reflect, do you still think Sultan's vote was bad?
2. When you said, "hb's opinions largely align with mine... which opens up a whole other list of reads from the outsides that I do believe I'll keep to myself until I can get home and think it out a bit more." What was that referring to and was your following post the next morning supposed to be that list of reads?
3. Frankly, you should full claim. I don't like the soft claim, and the faster you claim, the faster we can make a decision and move on from this. Saving it til' last minute just makes the end of day more chaotic.

Isquen for the sake of expedience, fuse my question with Hans ones.

Look at how nice we're being, like cats sharing the cream

Isquen posted...

Sultan: Almost reads like he's channeling Hangut, because he has no other reason for voting me beyond OMGUSUGUYS.

Do you really think this? I laid out my argument against you pretty clearly

I'm going to add this joke as well so youre saying my gut on you I'd correct then

When Han invokes Han Gut he is right like 90% of the time

I did not invoke Han Gut!

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I did not invoke Han Gut!

He's saying I channeled it lol

##unvote

Red flag triggered on someone. I'm focusing on one set of questions at a time.

EDumey posted...

You thought Sultan's vote on Kirby looked bad. HB got into a long argument about this same thing at the end of Topic 1. After having a chance to reread or reflect, do you still think Sultan's vote was bad?

I still think it was bad, or instructed at someone else's behest. I'm feeling Han.

When you said, "hb's opinions largely align with mine... which opens up a whole other list of reads from the outsides that I do believe I'll keep to myself until I can get home and think it out a bit more." What was that referring to and was your following post the next morning supposed to be that list of reads?

A combination of intuition and people being opportunistic with timing, and no, because my list of reads is typically disordered until I get a long chance to sit and think about them.

Frankly, you should full claim. I don't like the soft claim, and the faster you claim, the faster we can make a decision and move on from this. Saving it til' last minute just makes the end of day more chaotic.

I should, but I won't. Last time I claimed protection and was protection, I died anyways, so forgive me if I'm just a bit soured on the prospect.

Wait when were you lynched as protection?

And what was this about then?

If nothing else, if or when it resolves, it's comforting that b8 will have failed to mislynch an active power role for once.

Peace___Frog posted...

I wasn't that long after, was I? Kind of sis for you to exclude me.

Well, sorry, bro, but I already gave my thoughts on you.

Also we cant all have a fun last minute claim like I did, so I think you should at least keep the option on the table.