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The relay trial map in the desert is atrocious. You have to plow through garbage while getting meteors rained down on you. Ike strats utterly fail because you have 0 avoid while engaged and everyone is just going to rain ranged attacks on you which won't miss

I thought i had it that time but then reinforcements showed up and killed Louis and Jade with their dragon, then Tiki activated her skill once her door was down and I don't know what it did but everybody died. I don't think these maps were intended for you to do before beating the game. There's too much bullshit to deal with

As soon as both barriers are down, Tiki will activate her special move to give the dragon next to her a second life bar. The best way around this? Get all your units as close to the barrier as you can. Put one unit next to the second trigger to deactivate the barrier. On the same turn, turn off the barrier and kill her wyrm buddy before she can give it a second health bar.

She doesn't activate it immediately? I think I'll first waste bond points in the arena so my units can get more skills on the emblems they have, I also need to figure out who else to bring here, since the hero guy I got from Diamants chapter doesn't seem all that great

Compsognathus posted...

I think I'm ready to come to the conclusion that Engage did brawling dirty. The damage formula is bad. The class stats for Martial Master are appalling. The mediocre accuracy of the arts combined with the complete lack of skill growth from the class makes your characters basically blind. And the lack of skill doesn't even narratively feel correct for master martial artist.

They just aren't fun to use.

Yeah I thought Alear might make a good brawler since their class can use fists so I forged him some steel fists.

Then I find out how the damage formula worked so Alear ended up doing crap damage due to having a crap magic stat.

So yeah fists are ONLY for breaking mages.

"I wanna learn hand to hand in case I lose my sword"
*hand to hand skills only work with mag which Alear sucks at*
Stupid dwagon!

Wait, what's the damage formula for arts? Is there something I'm missing here?

I assume they're talking about how it uses an average of the character's Str/Mag.

Im gonna make Alear a Wolf Knight my next playthrough. Her promotion class is just not worth it

Left4Doge posted...

Im gonna make Alear a Wolf Knight my next playthrough. Her promotion class is just not worth it

The best thing about Alear's class is its Dragon status which super charges a lot of Engage abilities. But yeah it offensively leaves a lot to be desired. That said, it also makes a mediocre Alear always useful when used with Byleth or Corrin.

another failure, that's it I'm wiping those reinforcements out so I can go after Tiki without further interruptions

Success! 54 turns later but success! Now who to give Tiki to and which bracelet to go after next big boobs, the ax guy or the edgy boi

I know Leif is considered the worst emblem but seriously how does quadruple hit work? Thing does like 0 damage most of the time.

BigG777 posted...

I know Leif is considered the worst emblem but seriously how does quadruple hit work? Thing does like 0 damage most of the time.

You attack once with each one of Leif's weapons, the Killer Axe, Master Lance, Master Bow, and Light Brand. The problem is that Leifs weapons kinda suck and the Light Brand is a magic weapon. So you just don't do a ton of damage with it.

tremain07 posted...

Success! 54 turns later but success! Now who to give Tiki to and which bracelet to go after next big boobs, the ax guy or the edgy boi

Glad to hear you finally cleared it!

For the other three, I did Hector, then Soren, then Camilla. That being said, Hector will be really difficult if your magic attackers aren't good enough. If you feel like you need to level your mages more or if you think Soren's magic and Camilla's Bolt Axe will be useful for dealing with Hector, save him for last.

BigG777 posted...

I know Leif is considered the worst emblem but seriously how does quadruple hit work? Thing does like 0 damage most of the time.

Lief's best use is letting an archer attack with bows during the player phase but still counterattack with something else during the enemy phase. That and unlocking weapon proficiencies, since he gives all of them except tomes and arts.

Anyone who actually wants to to use Leif should never actually have a Bond conversation with him that way you only have access to the Killer Axe, his best weapon.

Compsognathus posted...

Anyone who actually wants to to use Leif should never actually have a Bond conversation with him that way you only have access to the Killer Axe, his best weapon.

The first conversation at bond level 5 is fine. It's the second one at bond level 10 that gives another (bad) weapon and messes with the weapon priority, and that's the one you shouldn't watch for the character that's actually going to be using Leif in battle.

On a side note, I've lost count of how many times I've misspelled Leif as Lief. My brain just refuses to accept Leif as the correct spelling for some reason.

Okay, I think I might need more mobility units for Soren's level because fighting my way through his forces takes too long with how awkward the positioning is due to the volcanic bombs and the plum effect any recommendations for who to use second class seals on? My army right now is
Alear, Divine Dragon
Ring: Roy

Alfred, Nobel
Ring: Leif

Louis, Lance Armor
Ring, Sigurd

Yunaka, Thief
Ring, Tiki

Jade, General
Ring, Three Houses

Celine, Vidame
Ring, Marth

Chloe, Lance Flier
Ring, Micaiah

Citrinne, Mage
Ring, Celica

tremain07 posted...

any recommendations for who to use second class seals on?

My potential ideas would be Alear to Great Knight, Wyvern Knight, or Wolf Knight (all of them give more movement plus a second weapon type) or Jade to Great Knight. I wouldn't recommend using any second seals on your unpromoted characters that you mentioned.

My army right now is

My only suggestion for a replacement would be to consider swapping Alfred for Alcryst if he's not too underleveled. You have two other better lance users already, and it's helpful to have at least one bow user to deal with flying enemies. Plus (I mentioned this earlier) Leif's ring is perfect for archers.

Soren subjected.
On to Camilia! Man that range of his is insane I'm giving him to Anna as a reminder to mage her when I get another master seal

I lost, she has too much going for her for me to even get near her
Fliers have free reign of the map so they can spam chain attacks
Only flier worth a damn I have right no is Chole and she can't handle this by herself
Camilia throwing bombs every round means my other guys are either stuck in hallways fending off the weaker units from being dogpiled by the other fliers

maybe I should go get hector first, thoughts?

tremain07 posted...

maybe I should go get hector first, thoughts?

Give it a shot. I thought Hector's paralogue was pretty easy aside from Hector himself being basically unkillable with physical attacks. Just keep your mages safe. Celine+Marth with the rapier and a magic-powered Lodestar Rush should be really good against him.

For me, my order was Tiki (when I first opened it), next was Hector, then Soren, and lastly Camilla when they were released

Calwings posted...

Give it a shot. I thought Hector's paralogue was pretty easy aside from Hector himself being basically unkillable with physical attacks. Just keep your mages safe. Celine+Marth with the rapier and a magic-powered Lodestar Rush should be really good against him.

I remember moving my characters up to him, engaging, and taking one revives stone out. And then, I was wondering why my characters were all having a possibility of dying to him without doing damage Then I saw his defense But then I saw his resistance Haha. But his did seem the easiest

This fortress of a general has been defeated. He nearly no sold Alear's best attack if not for the magical Lodestar Rush as recommended that would have been it for Alear without Celine...If the attack had actually finished him off! I had to rely on Alfred to toss a Javlin at his ass to end the fight!

Camilia is all that's left and I'm sure I can do it but it'll have to wait til next weekend, Sundays are my relaxation days and it's nearly midnight over here already. Thanks for your help and I'll definitely be watching for suggestions on how to best tackle her and for who to slap the Ax man on, maybe I'll give him to Alfred, seems only fair since he came in with the clutch at the end if it had been Vander's disappointing ass he would have missed

Hilariously he's quite good on Timerra. Basically her Sandstorm has a chance of activation per hit, and I don't think there's an enemy that can actually tank the entire thing due to one of the hit being magic based. Sandstorm can also proc on each hit of Great Aether though I think, so it depends on what you need, a single target or delayed AOE

I'm over my funk and retrying the Leif paralogue. Honestly I don't really like the way the game does paralogues. It's such a plot movement stopper to just drop a sea of them at once.

I managed to beat Camilia this morning but not before she took down Louis, I didn't expect her to make a beeline for him and immediately go for the kill. Roy-Alear has been really strong for this maps and I even managed to snag a Dracoshield! I'll give it to Louis since he earned it drawing Camilia out like that. Now the hard part, do I abandon all common sense and go for chapter 10 or do I wait for Chrom and Robin? Decisions Decisions

I'd say go for it. I recently took the plunge myself...

I'm gonna miss you Roy, you made Alear an unstoppable juggernaut, everything that went near her died, Lief, I'm not sure you were even here with how useless you were, Marth, Siguard, your dodge skills and movement made the clutch moves vital.

BurmesePenguin posted...

I'm over my funk and retrying the Leif paralogue. Honestly I don't really like the way the game does paralogues. It's such a plot movement stopper to just drop a sea of them at once.

Honestly, after you get past the first two ballistae it's not that hard. Apparently the original Thracia version of the map had a lot of staff spam so it could have been worse.

Alright chapter 13, more darkness and bandits, is there anyway to save the house right next to them or is it fucked?

tremain07 posted...

Alright chapter 13, more darkness and bandits, is there anyway to save the house right next to them or is it fucked?

Impossible

Blue_Inigo posted...

Impossible

Someone did manage it but it's just an Elixir so not worth it.

Alright, great, Guess I'll go try to train up with all these new seals I got and weapons, and bond events and emblem rings, fuck the prep work is busier than the actual battles

Chapter 17
Six bosses with double health bars, plus another one of those fuck you dragons plus silver weapon carrying enemies

This is ultimate bullshit

The chapter is extremely well balanced so it is in fact not bullshit >_>

It's a pain in the ass for sure. First time through is easy to make fatal mistakes

Everybody died to the dragon because even with engages we didn't have enough power to kill it before being overwhelmed by Marivare, Marnie and a bunch of soldiers. The only easy part I had was Griss, fucker dove right at me tried to kill Chole but she dodged and everybody dog piled him to death. At least now I know who I'm gonna go after first the next time I do this whenever I get some free time again. Back to the air base for prep work

Are you making use of Freeze staves?

You should.

You can also use Fracture on the dragons so they can't counter attack. Or so I heard.

Also Eirika's engage attack can one-shot dragons depending on who uses it.

tremain07 posted...

Chapter 17
Six bosses with double health bars, plus another one of those fuck you dragons plus silver weapon carrying enemies

This is ultimate bullshit

Corrin's Draconic Aura ability is a god send on this chapter. It can let you lock down an enemy for up to three turns. Great for keeping control of a multiple threatening enemy situation.

Damn, another failure I fucking suck at this I hate having to sleep after losing always puts me in a bad mood

Well Maddening Ch 20 was rightfully hated, but I coincidentally ran into him every single time, sometimes to my chagrin. Ch horribly bifurcates the army, but luckily I was able to fight through numerous 80% hits misses, a situation where I needed to dodge 2 25% hits at least to survive the whole turn and of course get hit by every single shot, an 8% hit that breaks my avo tank which gets them killed the next turn

Just a lot of things. I have it recorded, and I think the sheer bad luck I got on that ch is insurmountable, still did it in one try b4 running out of charges. Came close, and the only reason I was ever in danger was cuz I rushed to get Entrap with 3 full charges. I want it

I did it! All by sticking together

Do skirmishes still scale to Alear's level if they aren't deployed?

Well finally got around to these paralogues. Man people werent kidding about Leif. These 50mt ballistas that pretty much one shot most of my units are kind of ridiculous.

I did lol at the troll enemy with the speed wings drop who is clearly trying to bait you into them and escapes the map if you try to take it slow.

I ended up letting him go so I could take it slow. Louis was MVP just had to keep healing him while he got the ballistas to spend their 3 shots each on him then him and Sigurd took out the thoron mages since most of them decided to come at me in a nice single file line lol.

Man though if those are the kinds of maps Geneology has then I dont think I ever want to play that game.

are the parlogues must dos? because I haven't done any of them since getting those two back

tremain07 posted...

are the parlogues must dos? because I haven't done any of them since getting those two back

Emblems are capped at lvl 10 until you do their paralogue which raises it to lvl 20. You should do them to power them up.

Well you can probably skip Leif. Worst emblem and so far the worst paralogue lol.

tremain07 posted...

are the parlogues must dos? because I haven't done any of them since getting those two back

They let you get the good shit by fully unlocking Emblem powers. Also the game is expecting that you do them so you'll possibly fall behind the level curve if you don't.