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BlueCrystalTear
05/24/23 9:12:45 PM
#452:


Blaziken posted...
Honestly, if Heidi goes to FMC and loses, that would be an amazing end to the story of someone flopping every time she tries to make a big move.
A lot of things would make sense if that were the culmination to her story. Swung for the fences, then fell on her face. Again. That entire storyline is Funny115 material should it end this way.

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MartinFF7
05/24/23 9:16:22 PM
#453:


I am now praying we are in the revised Inviso timeline with Heidi humiliation, please make it happen...

(edit: ok just remembered the original plan was Heidi beating Carson in firemaking so... not that one!!)
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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 9:20:09 PM
#454:


I like how Carolyn mentally ran through every challenge in the hopes she'd find one she was good at.

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Underleveled
05/24/23 9:25:43 PM
#455:


I definitely remember Carolyn winning an immunity but can't remember which it was.

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Blaziken
05/24/23 9:30:11 PM
#456:


LET'S GO! C'MON CARSON!

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MartinFF7
05/24/23 9:30:56 PM
#457:


wikipedia says she never won anything individually, only as part of teams
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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 9:30:56 PM
#458:


She won both group immunities, but Heidi won one of those too.

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Underleveled
05/24/23 9:31:49 PM
#459:


My God, I would LOVE to see someone get fucked over by making a Goddamn dumb stupid move like this for the sole purpose of padding the "resume" they don't have because they kept refusing to make a move any time they had the opportunity.

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Pokewars
05/24/23 9:35:16 PM
#460:


Can Carolyn finally win already?

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Blaziken
05/24/23 9:37:37 PM
#461:


I've gotta say, I did NOT expect Heidi making that move to work out for her.

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BlueCrystalTear
05/24/23 9:38:11 PM
#462:


I think the most surprising thing here is that it took six whole seasons before we saw the Underwood Gambit again.

...okay, maybe Heidi beating Gabler and Underwood himself is even more shocking.

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MartinFF7
05/24/23 9:41:22 PM
#463:


legitimately terrified of this FTC, I'm not going to pull the "if x wins I'm going to stop watching Survivor" but wow if Carolyn doesn't win, it'll land in top 5 worst finale/season outcomes for me.
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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 9:41:51 PM
#464:


I hope all that cheering for Heidi isn't a sign of what's to come.

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Blaziken
05/24/23 9:43:52 PM
#465:


First woman to win the final 4 fire-making since the twist was introduced 9 seasons ago.

Also, this is the first FTC to feature two women (who aren't Natalie Anderson or Michele Fitzgerald) since Caramoan.

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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 9:44:27 PM
#466:


SJDS had two women that weren't Natalie Anderson!

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BlueCrystalTear
05/24/23 9:47:41 PM
#467:


Mewtwo59 posted...
I hope all that cheering for Heidi isn't a sign of what's to come.

MartinFF7 posted...
legitimately terrified of this FTC, I'm not going to pull the "if x wins I'm going to stop watching Survivor" but wow if Carolyn doesn't win, it'll land in top 5 worst finale/season outcomes for me.
Yeah, same here. If the jury votes for Heidi because of the fire-making, it will be one of the most unsatisfying, lame endings of all time.

And we're getting JURY SPEAKS again! Yay~

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MartinFF7
05/24/23 9:49:49 PM
#468:


Love they called back to the Day 1/season-opening confessional because I was just thinking about that. Man...
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BlueCrystalTear
05/24/23 10:14:19 PM
#469:


I think - and hope - Carolyn has this.

Heidi was terrible at FTC, particularly "Vote for me so I can be the oldest woman to win!" That is so tacky and has nothing to do with how good of a game she played.

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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 10:14:55 PM
#470:


Does Heidi not know that Puerto Rico is part of the US?

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Blaziken
05/24/23 10:15:12 PM
#471:


I hope I'm wrong, but that FTC really made me feel like Yam Yam is winning over Carolyn.

I definitely feel like Heidi is losing though. She gave big "politician with weak charisma" energy throughout that whole tribal council.

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MartinFF7
05/24/23 10:16:21 PM
#472:


I zoned out for almost all of that FTC (doing research for a new topic probably didn't help either), but I hope you're right.

I did catch some great Carolyn moments and Heidi coming off reallyyyyy tryhard at times but I am definitely biased here. Yam Yam sounded good? I didn't catch any silver bullets, if there were any...
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Pokewars
05/24/23 10:16:22 PM
#473:


Not great, not bad.

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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 10:16:57 PM
#474:


To be fair, it's hard to look charming next to Carolyn and Yam Yam.

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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 10:23:32 PM
#475:


Lame that Heidi beat Carolyn

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Underleveled
05/24/23 10:24:06 PM
#476:


Wait what?!

I've never been so sure about a winner from so early in the season, had them make it to the end of the game, and continued to be so sure that they were the winner right up until the votes were read... and had them lose.

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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 10:25:41 PM
#477:


Yeah, Carolyn's result was odd. I was expecting a Carolyn comeback until the 4th Yam Yam vote. Can't believe she got shut out.

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Blaziken
05/24/23 10:26:08 PM
#478:


I'm not upset about Yam Yam winning, but I really wish Carolyn had at least gotten a single vote (or better yet, gotten second place over Heidi).

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BlueCrystalTear
05/24/23 10:26:42 PM
#479:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Lame that Heidi beat Carolyn
Yeah, that's the lamest part. Do-nothing Heidi got a vote - from who? - and Carolyn got nothing? They got some explainin' to do. "They" being production.

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MartinFF7
05/24/23 10:28:10 PM
#480:


oh Inviso I totally misread your post @ 471, I thought you said the opposite (hence my "I hope you're right")

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Underleveled
05/24/23 10:31:27 PM
#481:


18. Heidi
17. Matthew
16. Kane
15. Brandon
14. Maddy
13. Helen
12. Sarah
11. Lauren
10. Josh
9. Claire
8. Bruce
7. Jaime
6. Carson
5. Danny
4. Matt
3. Franny
2. Yam-Yam
1. Carolyn

I've debated since like episode 3 who was worse between Heidi and Matthew, and ultimately came to the conclusion (and stuck with it) that although Matthew was more insufferable, Heidi was more actively ruinous to the season.

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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 10:36:13 PM
#482:


So the only new era season won by someone who lives in a US state was the one where there wasn't a Canadian or Puerto Rican contestant.

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Blaziken
05/24/23 10:38:28 PM
#483:


Yam Yam is the first gay winner in almost 30 seasons, so that's something happy and fun to think about.

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BlueCrystalTear
05/24/23 10:39:22 PM
#484:


Mine would probably be - this was done really quickly:

18. Matthew
17. Helen (forgot about her)
16. Brandon
15. Heidi
14. Maddy
13. Claire
12. Josh
11. Bruce (good guy, but I can't put him in the top half :/)
10. Kane
9. Lauren
8. Sarah
7. Danny
6. Matt
5. Carson
4. Frannie
3. Yam-Yam
2. Jaime
1. Carolyn

Looking over this, I can safely say that I only truly enjoyed my top 5, maybe top 6. The next batch were likable but either under-edited or gone too soon (or were Danny, an entertaining villain), and the rest... eh.

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Underleveled
05/24/23 10:40:47 PM
#485:


Oh yeah, I was just recently thinking about how there have literally been 2 LGBT winners out of 43 and that sucked. 3 out of 44 still sucks but at least it's happened again.

The fact that both Richard and Todd were presented as villains on the show probably didn't help. At least Yam-Yam was edited to be more actively lovable.

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MartinFF7
05/24/23 10:43:24 PM
#486:


They're making me yearn for Blood vs Water 3 right now, not good!!

(in any case, that segment was the highlight of tonight's 3 hours for me, that and the Jaime idol reveal too)
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Mewtwo59
05/24/23 10:58:49 PM
#487:


Is that a teaser that the auction is coming back?

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Underleveled
05/24/23 10:59:11 PM
#488:


I sure hope so!

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BlueCrystalTear
05/24/23 11:04:53 PM
#489:


I didn't watch the After Show - did I miss anything other than Jaime learning that her idol was fake and the potential auction tease? (I hope that's because they read one of my numerous essays explaining that the reason the auction got gamed was because production was too predictable with it, and it was easy to fix)

EDIT: I don't think we'll be needing a new topic right now, since BB doesn't start until August for whatever reason. Am I right there?

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Inviso
05/24/23 11:07:06 PM
#490:


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386700334988394496/1111128004001804369/image.png

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Underleveled
05/24/23 11:11:46 PM
#491:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
I didn't watch the After Show - did I miss anything other than Jaime learning that her idol was fake and the potential auction tease?
I spoiler-tagged this earlier in the topic but now that it was shown in the trailer, Bruce is coming back.

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Inviso
05/24/23 11:41:50 PM
#492:


The cream of the crop:
1. Kaoh Rong
2. Vanuatu
3. Pearl Islands
4. San Juan Del Sur
5. China
6. Philippines

Very good seasons with a few minor flaws:
7. Marquesas
8. Borneo
9. Heroes vs. Villains
10. Nicaragua
11. Guatemala
12. Gabon
13. Survivor 42

Largely solid seasons, but with some major flaws that prevent them from being better:
14. David vs. Goliath
15. Cagayan
16. Exile Island
17. Fiji
18. Amazon
19. Survivor 44
20. Survivor 41
21. Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers
22. Micronesia
23. Palau

Has some distinctly negative aspects, but has enough fun and enjoyable content to not hate outright:
24. Game Changers
25. Winners at War
26. Blood vs. Water
27. Edge of Extinction
28. Samoa
29. South Pacific

Mostly bland and forgettable:
30. Tocantins
31. Africa
32. One World
33. Australia
34. Ghost Island
35. Survivor 43

Extremely, extremely negative and unpleasant, but at least KINDA interesting in that negativity:
36. Thailand
37. Worlds Apart
38. Island of the Idols

Aggressively boring and soulless, and revolving around a twist that honestly makes the season worse through its existence:
39. Millennials vs. Gen X
40. Cook Islands
41. Caramoan
42. Cambodia
43. All-Stars
44. Redemption Island

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Naye745
05/25/23 12:00:52 AM
#493:


season 44 had the best cast of the new era with the worst editing

there was just too much talking about how great people and their stories were without context. even carolyn (who had plenty of incredible moments) also had some insufferable infantilizing of her life and story in this finale. but lauren basically getting a dramatic sendoff of how great she was without the show having ever let us see that in the prior 12 episodes - was the worst. and that's not on her, of course, that's the show just never giving us literally anything from her after, like, the goddamn premiere.

anyway, yam yam deserved the win, good for him, but i wish it felt more satisfying for some reason i haven't quite figured out. editing and production will benefit from the 90 minutes but they're gonna need them put to better use than the 60 they've been working with.

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Naye745
05/25/23 12:02:57 AM
#494:


also i am baffled by the fact that there are multiple heidi haters (?) from this board but then i remember that most of you suck and are horrible people

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Zigzagoon
05/25/23 3:21:30 AM
#495:


That finale just felt so incredibly underwhelming. Dunno what it was, but that definitely wasn't it.

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bwburke94
05/25/23 5:38:07 AM
#496:


Maybe the move to 90-minute episodes will help, even if the finale itself is unchanged.

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Inviso
05/25/23 3:13:12 PM
#497:


https://twitter.com/RobHasApodcast/status/1661787101464244224

Awwww...

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BlueCrystalTear
05/25/23 3:40:29 PM
#498:


  1. I don't hate Heidi; I hate her edit. That's why she's low on my list. Her story made no sense for a runner-up. Way to jump to conclusions, Naye. I agree that the editing this season was off, of course, and Heidi was a big part of that (mad respect to her for pulling off the Underwood Gambit successfully).
  2. Knew about Bruce (and thought I said that), but good to know that was in the trailer.
  3. I agree with Inviso's approximate placement of this season (the rest of the list is another story)
  4. Sia has a face? Though I am happy for Carolyn to get that award - she earned it.

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Mewtwo59
05/25/23 4:08:27 PM
#499:


Carolyn winning the Sia award was obvious the moment she lost (since I don't think Sia gives money to the winner. She didn't for Maryanne and that's the only reason I can think of.)

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Chaeix
05/25/23 4:12:54 PM
#500:


hello from page 1 - NO SPOILERS IN THE NEXT TOPIC TITLE PLEASE but someone else can make so the poll is suitable to yesterday

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