Current Events > Pantera shows canceled following backlash over lead singer Nazi salute in 2016

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https://nypost.com/2023/01/27/pantera-shows-canceled-over-phil-anselmos-2016-nazi-salute/

Heavy metal band Pantera has had three shows canceled from their forthcoming reunion tour following controversy over a 2016 incident involving singer Phil Anselmo. The shows were dropped from the line-ups of Germanys Rock am Ring and Rock im Park festivals earlier this week, as well as a show in Vienna, due to public backlash over a seemingly racist gesture Anselmo made six years ago. The frontman reportedly made a Nazi salute and shouted white power at a concert, an act that has now cost the band several highly anticipated tour dates following a 20-year hiatus. The promoter of the festivals cited public backlash as the reason for dropping the band, saying the decision was made due to intensive conversations with artists, our partners and you, the festival fans. The promoter for the Austrian show did not provide a clear reason for the cancelation, writing only that refunds would be available for ticket holders.

Anselmo commented on the 2016 incident following widespread backlash from the music community. Philip H Anselmo here, and Im here to basically respond to all the heat Ive been getting that I deserve completely, he said on a YouTube video published by Housecore Records. I was at the Dimebash, and it was extremely late at night. There was heavy-duty talk between myself and those who love Dime. And heavy emotions were flowing, jokes were made backstage that transpired upon the stage, and it was ugly. It was uncalled for. And anyone who knows me and my true nature knows that I dont believe in any of that; I dont want to be part of any group. Im an individual, and I am a thousand percent apologetic to anyone that took offense to what I said because you should have taken offense to what I said. And I am so sorry, and I hope you just man, give me another chance to just give me another chance. I love all of you. And anyone whos met me, anyone who knows me knows that I love all of you. Bless you.

oh no, the consequences to my actions. please feel sad for me

Germany takes a very hard stance against any public displays of nazism, so that's not surprising

But also calling it a reunion tour is kinda bullshit when Dime and Vinnie are both gone

Isn't John Layfield basically banned from Germany for doing that once?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Isn't John Layfield basically banned from Germany for that once?

He did the sig heil AND a goose step at a house show in Germany.

Hayame_Zero posted...

He did the sig heil AND a goose step at a house show in Germany.

even for a heel, that's a big oof.

lol people are just learning that Phil AnselBlow is trash now? What is this 1992 again?

Why would anyone even want to go see Pantera in 2023? That's like getting excited to see Skynyrd after 1977.

Was Dimebag a nazi, too? :(

Fuck around and find out.

It's funny how his apology means nothing to CE lol

Dude admitted to a mistake from years ago and even said it was a bad joke and he regrets it.

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Just remind anyone who says that, that black people invented rock. Also It's predecessor R&B, it's predecessor Blues, and it's predecessor bluegrass.

--Zero- posted...

It's funny how his apology means nothing to CE lol

Dude admitted to a mistake from years ago and even said it was a bad joke and he regrets it.

People are not required to accept your apology.

That's not who I am. It unfortunately happens to me when affluenza mixes with ambien.

DeadBankerDream posted...

People are not required to accept your apology.

You're right. I disagree holding it against him still though. The guy has been apologizing and explaining himself for it since the incident happened.

--Zero- posted...

You're right. I disagree holding it against him still though. The guy has been apologizing and explaining himself for it since the incident happened.

womp womp

--Zero- posted...

It's funny how his apology means nothing to CE lol

Dude admitted to a mistake from years ago and even said it was a bad joke and he regrets it.

You notice how he only apologizes after it costs him money? Sympathy for this... joke... None.

Is it really Pantera without Vinnie Paul and Dimebag Darrell though

DeadBankerDream posted...

Was Dimebag a nazi, too? :(

He was well known for using the confederate flag. Not sure if he ever said racist shit but at the very least using that flag means he's indifferent to racism.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Was Dimebag a nazi, too? :(

There's a very strong possibility he was yes.

not accepting someone's apology is pretty petty unless they keep doing the bad thing

Zangrief posted...

You notice how he only apologizes after it costs him money? Sympathy for this... joke... None.

He's been apologizing since the incident happened. 6 years later if you lost out on some shows and money for something you thought you moved on from would be upsetting to you too.

In 2015 he denounced the confederate flag saying he believes it represents hate and has been known to donate to charity in New Orleans. Dude's a metal legend and deserves forgiveness if he hasn't repeated his actions since.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

not accepting someone's apology is pretty petty unless they keep doing the bad thing

You mean the apology that only happened after it cost him money? Okay. Call me petty.

Or, and hear me out here, maybe he never should have made jokes about being apart of or supporting genocidal fascists in the first place.

His entire apology was basically peer pressure. I didnt fall to that shit when I was a literal child let alone 6 years ago. Its a laughable apology at best.

--Zero- posted...

It's funny how his apology means nothing to CE lol

Dude admitted to a mistake from years ago and even said it was a bad joke and he regrets it.

Except he apologized after he got backlash, so is he sorry for what he did or is he sorry for the consequences?

I mean, what would you expect him to do? Even if he is a Nazi, he's not going to out and out admit to it. Apologizing was the literal only move for him, and it rings hollow as just PR versus actual development and growth.

--Zero- posted...

He's been apologizing since the incident happened. 6 years later if you lost out on some shows and money for something you thought you moved on from would be upsetting to you too.

In 2015 he denounced the confederate flag saying he believes it represents hate and has been known to donate to charity in New Orleans. Dude's a metal legend and deserves forgiveness if he hasn't repeated his actions since.

So which is it, has he been apologizing for it, or has he moved on? Also, regardless of the apology now, then, or ever, this is still the consequence of what he did. Its almost like he was an adult and maybe shouldnt have made that joke to begin with.

K181 posted...

Except he apologized after he got backlash, so is he sorry for what he did or is he sorry for the consequences?

I mean, what would you expect him to do? Even if he is a Nazi, he's not going to out and out admit to it. Apologizing was the literal only move for him, and it rings hollow as just PR versus actual development and growth.

From what I read it was recorded by someone at the show after being heckled and drunk. He probably didn't expect people to see it. No reason to apologize to the public if you didn't expect anyone to know you goofed.

There were already stories about Anselmo's racist antics during shows floating among fans around since the 90's. He's still having a hard time living down that 2016 video.

--Zero- posted...

From what I read it was recorded by someone at the show after being heckled and drunk. He probably didn't expect people to see it. No reason to apologize to the public if you didn't expect anyone to know you goofed.

What you're describing is someone who is apologizing to make the backlash go away.

Zangrief posted...

So which is it, has he been apologizing for it, or has he moved on? Also, regardless of the apology now, then, or ever, this is still the consequence of what he did. Its almost like he was an adult and maybe shouldnt have made that joke to begin with.

He'd totally agree with you too. He's apologized whenever it's been brought up and in the 6 years you would think people would move on. Not sure how many times someone has to explain themself or say their sorry for people to move on.

DeadBankerDream posted...

What you're describing is someone who is apologizing to make the backlash go away.

Alright if you don't want to be reasonable lol

Seems more likely that Phil is just a fucking idiot than a full blown racist. He doesn't seem like he'd be the type to back down if he really didn't think he did anything wrong.

--Zero- posted...

He'd totally agree with you too. He's apologized whenever it's been brought up and in the 6 years you would think people would move on. Not sure how many times someone has to explain themself or say their sorry for people to move on.

Oh no, someone who made jokes about being part of one of the worst human experiences in history and an attempted genocide of an entire people... oh no, he has to apologize every so often. And continue to be rich. Im so upset for him.

--Zero- posted...

From what I read it was recorded by someone at the show after being heckled and drunk. He probably didn't expect people to see it. No reason to apologize to the public if you didn't expect anyone to know you goofed.

You probably shouldn't be doing things on stage at a public venue with the expectation that nobody will know about it or will record you.

Zangrief posted...

You mean the apology that only happened after it cost him money? Okay. Call me petty.

Or, and hear me out here, maybe he never should have made jokes about being apart of or supporting genocidal fascists in the first place.

His entire apology was basically peer pressure. I didnt fall to that shit when I was a literal child let alone 6 years ago. Its a laughable apology at best.

Sometimes people need to lose something to realize they made a mistake, that seems pretty uncontroversial. Sometimes people don't lose anything and still apologize.

Maybe get your morality out of kindergarten.

DipDipDiver posted...

Germany takes a very hard stance against any public displays of nazism, so that's not surprising

But also calling it a reunion tour is kinda bullshit when Dime and Vinnie are both gone

That's true.

--Zero- posted...

From what I read it was recorded by someone at the show after being heckled and drunk. He probably didn't expect people to see it. No reason to apologize to the public if you didn't expect anyone to know you goofed.

lol this is really... one of the weakest arguments. I didnt know I needed to apologize because... I did something while drunk (not an excuse) and I didnt know people would, you know, actually find out! (Also not an excuse) rooooofl

MedeaLysistrata posted...

Sometimes people need to lose something to realize they made a mistake, that seems pretty uncontroversial. Sometimes people don't lose anything and still apologize.

Maybe get your morality out of kindergarten.

Youre right. Its uncontroversial for someone to reap the rewards for their stupidity. But yes, when your best response is to try to infantilize my statements it means you dont actually have a valid argument. Good job.

--Zero- posted...

He's been apologizing since the incident happened. 6 years later if you lost out on some shows and money for something you thought you moved on from would be upsetting to you too.

In 2015 he denounced the confederate flag saying he believes it represents hate and has been known to donate to charity in New Orleans. Dude's a metal legend and deserves forgiveness if he hasn't repeated his actions since.

Lot of posts here are obvious no one read about him lol.

So in 2015, he denounced the confederate flag because it represents hate.

But then in 2016, he does the Nazi salute and yells white power because of a joke made backstage? You can't denounce hate and then turn around and do that shit.

Like, that's great, he's changed now, but people don't have to forgive him.

--Zero- posted...

It's funny how his apology means nothing to CE lol

Dude admitted to a mistake from years ago and even said it was a bad joke and he regrets it.

Not defending what he said and did, but what do you think the difference between phil and all of those politicians and celebs who wore blackface at one point is? Why doesnt he also get a pass after apologizing?

Damnit, Pantera I told you to get out there and mow that lawn!

Zangrief posted...

Youre right. Its uncontroversial for someone to reap the rewards for their stupidity. But yes, when your best response is to try to infantilize my statements it means you dont actually have a valid argument. Good job.

Your statements are inherently infantile, or at the very least primitive. The idea that an immoral action should be met with permanent, unforgiving punishment is the sort of barbaric mindset that gave birth to the idea of hell. Your position is not one a rational morality can support. Your call, but it's difficult to take too seriously.

Lordgold666 posted...

Not defending what he said and did, but what do you think the difference between phil and all of those politicians and celebs who wore blackface at one point is? Why doesnt he also get a pass after apologizing?

The politicians shouldnt have either. Especially since they do things that have tangible effects on peoples lives and not entertainers. Bad analogy to me.

AloneIBreak posted...

Your statements are inherently infantile, or at the very least primitive. The idea that an immoral action should be met with permanent, unforgiving punishment is the sort of barbaric mindset that gave birth to the idea of hell. Your position is not one a rational morality can support. Your call, but it's difficult to take too seriously.

Dont care.

Zangrief posted...

Youre right. Its uncontroversial for someone to reap the rewards for their stupidity. But yes, when your best response is to try to infantilize my statements it means you dont actually have a valid argument. Good job.

My argument is people are less in control of themselves than what you are presenting; your take that you get to be the decider of when an apology should be accepted is just egotistical (or however else you decide what apologies to accept- maybe you have a rule I don'tknow about.) I guess I'm wrong because even children know how to accept apologies.

Like punish them for the crime, stop talking to them, but just let the person say sorry ffs.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

My argument is people are less in control of themselves than what you are presenting; your take that you get to be the decider of when an apology should be accepted is just egotistical (or however else you decide what apologies to accept- maybe you have a rule I don'tknow about.) I guess I'm wrong because even children know how to accept apologies.

Like punish them for the crime, stop talking to them, but just let the person say sorry ffs.

No ones prevented him from saying sorry. That in no way requires people to automatically forgive and forget his actions. Youre free to do so. Your argument that others should is ridiculous.

Also look, more infantilizing. So you really dont have any better argument.

Zangrief posted...

Dont care.

I'll take that as agreement.

AloneIBreak posted...

I'll take that as agreement.

So youre bad at basic comprehension of two words. Now I know not to bother reading anything you have to say. If thats what you feel is an affirmation, it makes sense why youve responded as you have. Bye.