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Mewtwo59
11/25/22 3:15:01 PM
#351:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I feel like I'm treat Bexp like the people who end RPGs with 99 elixers in their inventory. Are there going to be any forced characters who need a LOT of Bexp?

Because of the way BEXP works in this game, it's not a great idea to level up underleveled units with BEXP. It's better to just get them to 99 exp and then level them up. But yes, there are a few underleveled units who are forced at the end, but they can sort of function on their own without a bunch of investment.

Kenri posted...
Haar, and dragon knights in general, are absurdly good in FE10. I'm not sure how much the FE10 speedrunning strategy has changed over the years but I know it used to be largely a Haar solo run.

It's called Radiant Haar for a reason!

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 5:02:57 PM
#352:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/4/AAeolZAAD7Am.jpg

Nooooooo!

Also I'm so tired of the forced Ranulf. If I had know they were gonna keep him tethered to me for this long I would have put some effort into him. I like the guy but geeze.

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MysteriousStan
11/25/22 5:04:03 PM
#353:


I already liked Haar from PoR even if he wasn't a very good unit. So it made me incredibly happy how good he was in RD. And he's one of the few background characters who gets some time to shine later as well. Though I might be underselling other characters and whatever base convos they have so don't hold me to that statement haha.
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Mewtwo59
11/25/22 5:21:30 PM
#354:


Ranulf is leveled high enough that he's not leveling very fast even if you put effort into him. But his big problem is that cat transform gauges are awful. He's decent enough, but you're probably better off just letting him transform naturally and give all the Olivi Grass to Janaff and Ulki.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 5:23:35 PM
#355:


Uh wait

I was supposed to be MANUALLY raising the support ranks at the base??

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Kenri
11/25/22 5:26:48 PM
#356:


Ugh I hate how they changed the laguz for FE10. I want to say I used Lethe, Ranulf, and Janaff in FE9 but I definitely didn't use any laguz in FE10, outside the Dawn Brigade chapters at least.

Obviously the royals are good but that kinda just makes Lethe et al get shafted even more.

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Isquen
11/25/22 5:30:25 PM
#357:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Uh wait

I was supposed to be MANUALLY raising the support ranks at the base??

Yep, apart from some predetermined ones (like Sothe and Micaiah's existing A rank)

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 5:31:53 PM
#358:


OK

Fuck

If I just brought Ike/Soren to B am I fucked on whatever that secret conversation was from transferring over their A rank?

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Mewtwo59
11/25/22 5:38:03 PM
#359:


No, there's plenty of time to raise them to A rank.

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Mewtwo59
11/25/22 5:41:20 PM
#360:


Kenri posted...
Ugh I hate how they changed the laguz for FE10. I want to say I used Lethe, Ranulf, and Janaff in FE9 but I definitely didn't use any laguz in FE10, outside the Dawn Brigade chapters at least.

Obviously the royals are good but that kinda just makes Lethe et al get shafted even more.

Janaff and Ulki are busted in this game. The game throws enough Olivi Grass at you that you can keep them transformed at all times, and their stats are nuts for their join point. Ulki is nearly unhittable in Part 3 thanks to his personal skill, even on hard mode.

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Kenri
11/25/22 5:50:13 PM
#361:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Janaff and Ulki are busted in this game. The game throws enough Olivi Grass at you that you can keep them transformed at all times, and their stats are nuts for their join point. Ulki is nearly unhittable in Part 3 thanks to his personal skill, even on hard mode.
Oh shit for real? I mean I probably wouldn't use Ulki anyway because I just plain don't like him but I'm def gonna use Janaff and do this if I ever replay FE10

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tcaz2
11/25/22 6:48:56 PM
#362:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
OK

Fuck

If I just brought Ike/Soren to B am I fucked on whatever that secret conversation was from transferring over their A rank?

No but you probably are from not being on a second playthrough anyway
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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 6:50:25 PM
#363:


tcaz2 posted...


No but you probably are from not being on a second playthrough anyway



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MalcolmMasher
11/25/22 6:50:57 PM
#364:


Though I might be underselling other characters and whatever base convos they have so don't hold me to that statement haha.

FE10 does have a lot of boss convos as well; I'm not prepared to swear that literally every character gets a boss convo, but it wouldn't surprise me. ...still would have been better to have real supports, though.

Ugh I hate how they changed the laguz for FE10. I want to say I used Lethe, Ranulf, and Janaff in FE9 but I definitely didn't use any laguz in FE10, outside the Dawn Brigade chapters at least.
Janaff and Ulki are busted in this game. The game throws enough Olivi Grass at you that you can keep them transformed at all times, and their stats are nuts for their join point. Ulki is nearly unhittable in Part 3 thanks to his personal skill, even on hard mode.

I, too, dislike FE10's revised transformation system, but it does make laguz better overall. In FE9 they're a bunch of melee-locked filler prepromotes, and that's ignoring gauge concerns. In FE10 they're really weird and swingy (x2 stat multipliers simply do not belong in Fire Emblem) but that gives them the potential to be quite effective on the upswing.

Oh, TC, did you know that FE10 laguz can level up their Strike rank, and it's worth +5 Attack per rank? Because they can.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 6:52:38 PM
#365:


MalcolmMasher posted...
Oh, TC, did you know that FE10 laguz can level up their Strike rank, and it's worth +5 Attack per rank? Because they can.

I actually just noticed, because I've been using Janaff. Does the 2x weapon rank skill work on them?

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MalcolmMasher
11/25/22 6:56:09 PM
#366:


Not sure. Hmm... Serenes says Discipline is "Beorc only", so I guess not!

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Kenri
11/25/22 7:01:02 PM
#367:


tcaz2 posted...
No but you probably are from not being on a second playthrough anyway
I feel like I got the special Ike/Soren convo without even transferring data and on my first playthrough, but FE10 has so many obtuse secrets with weird requirements that I can't swear by it

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 7:05:54 PM
#368:


MalcolmMasher posted...
Not sure. Hmm... Serenes says Discipline is "Beorc only", so I guess not!

Shame, though it seems way more worthwhile to put on mages than anything. I put it on Soren and he maxed out staff rank with like 4 uses including a physic. Going to keep it on him until I get everything maxed.

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KamikazePotato
11/25/22 7:09:42 PM
#369:


Kenri posted...
I feel like I got the special Ike/Soren convo without even transferring data and on my first playthrough, but FE10 has so many obtuse secrets with weird requirements that I can't swear by it
I think there's two secret Soren convos. One is based on the Ike support, the other is based on that plus making a choice that straight-up isn't available on a first playthrough for some reason.

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tcaz2
11/25/22 7:26:45 PM
#370:


Kenri posted...
I feel like I got the special Ike/Soren convo without even transferring data and on my first playthrough, but FE10 has so many obtuse secrets with weird requirements that I can't swear by it


KamikazePotato posted...
I think there's two secret Soren convos. One is based on the Ike support, the other is based on that plus making a choice that straight-up isn't available on a first playthrough for some reason.

I double checked to make sure before I said anything but 2 sources (serenes and a guide here) both say the Ike/Soren convo AND the Soren epilogue conversation are 2nd game only bonuses. It's possible they're both wrong, I guess.

RD has a good bit of stuff locked behind a 2nd playthrough in general so it wouldn't surprise me.
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Isquen
11/25/22 8:38:15 PM
#371:


The Soren epilogue conversation is absolutely 2nd game only because (and big spoiler here for the TC) there's no way to not have a unit in question dead in-story before part 3 endgame that Soren has to combat.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 8:40:42 PM
#372:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/1/AAeolZAAD7Dh.jpg

What the fuck

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Kenri
11/25/22 8:43:53 PM
#373:


Isquen posted...
The Soren epilogue conversation is absolutely 2nd game only because (and big spoiler here for the TC) there's no way to not have a unit in question dead in-story before part 3 endgame that Soren has to combat.
OH IT'S THIS ONE

Yes this is 2nd playthrough only, I was thinking of a different one (probably exactly as KP said). Apologies for the misinfo!

UshiromiyaEva posted...
What the fuck
Don't quote me on this, but I think crossbows don't use your unit STR, so it's not as good as it seems. But also, yes, what the fuck

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 8:46:35 PM
#374:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/5/AAeolZAAD7Dl.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/6/AAeolZAAD7Dm.jpg

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tcaz2
11/25/22 8:55:30 PM
#375:


RD does yellow/green units the best of any game in the series and I love it honestly. Makes it feel like a much larger war.
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Panthera
11/25/22 9:00:23 PM
#376:


Kenri posted...
Don't quote me on this, but I think crossbows don't use your unit STR, so it's not as good as it seems. But also, yes, what the fuck

Yeah crossbows exist solely to prevent flying units from being too good, they're not good for much else.

Of course then they went and made the best flying class not weak to bows anymore...

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 9:25:29 PM
#377:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/2/AAeolZAAD7EU.jpg

Bruh

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 9:28:38 PM
#378:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/8/9/AAeolZAAD7El.jpg

"Oh"

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 9:31:32 PM
#379:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/5/AAeolZAAD7Er.jpg



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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 9:42:22 PM
#380:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/9/AAeolZAAD7E5.jpg

What exactly is expected of me here.

I mean really.

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KamikazePotato
11/25/22 9:46:21 PM
#381:


The Dawn Brigade sucking just makes maps like that more memorable.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 9:54:03 PM
#382:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/0/AAeolZAAD7FE.jpg



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Kenri
11/25/22 9:55:39 PM
#383:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
What exactly is expected of me here.

I mean really.
it's easy bro just hold line for 12 turns or defeat boss bro

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KamikazePotato
11/25/22 9:58:13 PM
#384:


Kenri posted...
it's easy bro just hold line for 12 turns or defeat boss bro
I think the easiest way to win is actually just to use Micaiah to nuke Ike from across the map

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Mewtwo59
11/25/22 10:09:10 PM
#385:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/9/AAeolZAAD7E5.jpg

What exactly is expected of me here.

I mean really.

I hope you didn't leave a siege tome on Soren like I did by accident on one playthrough!

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 10:12:25 PM
#386:


KamikazePotato posted...
I think the easiest way to win is actually just to use Micaiah to nuke Ike from across the map

Micaiah isn't able pass the line and doesn't come close to reaching.

Mewtwo59 posted...
I hope you didn't leave a siege tome on Soren like I did by accident on one playthrough!

Thank christ I didn't.

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Mewtwo59
11/25/22 10:14:56 PM
#387:


What I did was use Laura to put Ike to sleep, then have Jill go in and kill him.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 10:45:46 PM
#388:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/2/AAeolZAAD7Fk.jpg

Radical.

CGs in this game are baller.

"From Pain, Awakening"

Radiant Dawn prophetic about the franchise, huh?

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tcaz2
11/25/22 10:46:15 PM
#389:


There is actually a *lot* of unique dialogue for having characters talk to or fight each other on this map. Now doing so without getting your units killed, mind... that's the tricky part.
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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 11:20:21 PM
#390:


Yeah this kill counter sure isn't foreboding.

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Mewtwo59
11/25/22 11:21:44 PM
#391:


tcaz2 posted...
There is actually a *lot* of unique dialogue for having characters talk to or fight each other on this map. Now doing so without getting your units killed, mind... that's the tricky part.

Honestly, I think the harder part is getting some of those convos before you hit the kill limit. The Dawn Brigade doesn't die for real, and Jill is probably the only one who's a threat to your units, but there's an easy way to deal with her.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/25/22 11:26:50 PM
#392:


This heartbeat thing.

This chapter is fucking awesome.

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tcaz2
11/25/22 11:46:46 PM
#393:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Honestly, I think the harder part is getting some of those convos before you hit the kill limit. The Dawn Brigade doesn't die for real, and Jill is probably the only one who's a threat to your units, but there's an easy way to deal with her.
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UshiromiyaEva
11/26/22 12:27:50 AM
#394:


What a fucking end to the chapter, holy shit.

You know I have some issues with this game on the character distribution side l as I think is pretty obvious to anyone who's played it, but the actual story thrust is just...reallllly strong here.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/26/22 1:26:34 AM
#395:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AAeolZAAD7G6.jpg

Oh I like her.

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TeamRocketElite
11/26/22 1:28:38 AM
#396:


Yune is great

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UshiromiyaEva
11/26/22 1:39:07 AM
#397:


Black Knight reveal

Legit did not see it

Oh wait he he the same WALKING ANIMATION IN BATTLE I though it was just a silly class thing that he lumbered like that.

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MysteriousStan
11/26/22 1:44:18 AM
#398:


Well now I'm curious on who else you thought it could be!
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UshiromiyaEva
11/26/22 1:53:38 AM
#399:


I dunno! I wasn't thinking about it at all. Thought it was Sephran for a minute, lol.

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MysteriousStan
11/26/22 2:09:24 AM
#400:


Fairly positive Sephiran appears on screen with the Black Knight at some point. But I get it! I'm not much of a theory crafter myself when I'm consuming media haha. Think PoR game data spoiled a lot of people on the Black Knight's identity as well back in the day.
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