Board 8 > YGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 7 - Zero Days since the last Microtransaction

(+) Yeah! (+)

Another day, another tragic loss. Even in this new era of dueling we duelists..
Wait. You're still kicking? What are you doing here then?
Oh you're still bleeding out lifepoints huh? Impressive, you've gone all the way down to single digits. I didn't now the game could even calculate that far down.
Ahem... Well I am not gonna waste my fancy speeches on someone like you. It'd be like inviting someone to their own funeral! You will just have to wait, your and your friends.
Though if you want I can fill the hours by telling you about all the ways duelists have tried to continue dueling at zero lifepoints and how they always failed.
No? Not interested. Suit yourself then...

##Activate Trap card: Scapegoat
HB has been killed, but Scapegoat has delayed his death until the end of day instead!
He can no longer use his powers or let his vote count towards majority.
Nothing can prevent his death and any cards he still has in his hand or on his field will disappear along with him.

Abacus, BCT, Chang and Lopen have set 1 trap card
Kirby's previous trap card left his field and a new trap card has been set.

Playerlist
1. BCT
2. Changmas
3. Kirby
4. Lopen
5. Sultan
6. ViolentAbacus
(Semi-Dead)
7. HBtheBattle

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends at 7 PM EST Sunday, October 23rd

You may start posting

Fuck yes! HB, did you get a scan off before losing your powers?

Also, my off-day ISO of Sultan, yes. I got 3.5 topics into it, and here are the results.

Sultans first post is absolutely awful: He immediately starts to target me for daring to make a joke in the very first post on page 1, something that happens in Mafia games all the time. He shows immediately what a pain in the butt hes going to be.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Horrible first post to see. BCT has been full of Comedy recently but like 1st post bro?

This also shows a cluelessness toward my tendency to slip jokes in whatever I do. Has he read my Tales playthrough or epic movie watchthrough projects? There are subtle jokes everywhere, and sometimes they go over peoples heads heads like Sultans.

His second post is responding to Ben claiming Vanilla Yugi, which, now that we know Ben was scum Roleblocker, does not look very good:

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Yeah Chris and I think maybe Crescent-Moon actually said that. A VOICEFUL vanilla is the strongest role

This seems to be validating that he believes Ben. His third post is responding to Bens supposed flavor that he claimed in a second post, which was blatantly a joke to anyone who read the rules and that their flavors are decks, which now does not look good since he didnt believe my completely truthful claim of Blue Eyes White Dragons:

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Vanilla Yugi.. seems cutsey to me but in a way in relation to my rule I could maybe buy this?

As is apparently clear, hes not one for buying into the usual joking around to start a game, and his next few posts are in response to me and Ctes challenging him on not realizing that he shouldnt be taking me seriously. This is Ctes replying to him after already saying Sultan calling me out felt forced (Ctes later adds that the word horrible was way over the top):

ctesjbuvf posted...

It's different than his hesitation in your game yes but he was also scum that game and it was his first game in a while. I don't recall he hesitated to post much in what little Baseball mafia he played.

Next, Ben attempts to clear Sultan as town, but Ben was scum. Sultans been at my throat since the very first post, all while believing Ben. This is not a good look, seeing as his justifications are backwards, from the wholly wrong mindset that I am scum. He refuses to acknowledge any evidence that makes me town, all while trying to clear the scum roleblocker. In post 50 of topic 1, Sultan ALSO says he could just claim his flavor, right out of the gate. For a guy who refused to claim several game days later, thats not good. He also says I may be town in the very next post, which confirms that Ctes was correct in how it was forced.

Sultan claims scum quickly thereafter:

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Maybe im messing with all of your minds you will never know

Needless to say, he did not start the game off on the right foot at all, and shouldnt get away with it. And this is just the first page and a half of the entire game! No freakin wonder Ive thought he was scum the whole time.

After Lopen calls him out on not understanding the flavor, and Sultan proves again that he didnt understand the rules, likely because he didnt need to. He then goes back to accusing me with practically nothing to go on:

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

BCT only came in to protect himself sorta idk maybe im looking to much into it but im getting bad vibes early.

Lopen seems like how was last game when he Murdered the hell outta me.

Neither of these statements is a very good look. He shouldnt be saying I came in to protect myself when all I wanted to do was make fun of my D1 experiences thus far. Hes holding onto that too tightly and its likely because his scumbuddies told him to run with it, despite having called me town three hours earlier. He also seems to be confirming Lopen as town a la DOTA2, a scumslip Chang asked him about. Poppy then goes in to make his scumbuddy look good:

PoppyTheNinja posted...
much townier than last game already

This does not look good now that we know PoppyTheNinja was quite a literal username. Sultan then claims scum yet again by voting me because I was pressuring Han to explain why he thought I was 100% scum when Im acting no differently than I did in my short time in Baseball Mafia. I then change my vote to Sultan because Sultan throws Plums name out despite Plum being co-host, meaning hes trying to throw things at the wall to see what sticks.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Yes first post of the game asking if people suspect him?? Like doesn't that kinda scream like look at anyone else but me please than majority of everything else BCT is doing is self preservation.

I'll admit i was poking fun at BCT at first but even this counter vote isn't sitting well with me

Were not even though Page 4 of the first topic yet and Im finding all kinds of things that dont look good for Sultan. My first post was a joke. And if Sultan says oh I was just joking much later like this, its weird because apparently he can joke but I cant? And whats wrong with self-preservation when youre self-loathing and have no confidence in your Mafia abilities like me? Hes not bothering to read the situation, and then trying to backpedal because I called him scum. I call him out on this.

Han responds to Sultan asking about protecting me, where Han says that Im saying Im not good at Mafia, as opposed to I dont know much about Mafia. Sultan then suggests somethings off about Han (T1P322), but cant explain it except for theorizing that Han is playing feedback more than attacker. In other words, Han should be attacking townies as opposed to helping them know how to play better, which is a scum mindset. What is off about trying to help town win the game by not making dumb mistakes? Town Han calls him out on this. Sultans suggestion is daft and harmful to the cause. Also harmful to the cause was how Sultan had the typos that day (looking back, I kinda did too), so some of his language sounds nonsensical.

Sultan doesnt buy Hans explanation that Mafia should be fun and still thinks Han being helpful to town is reason to keep him on his radar.

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

What is wrong about it BCT looks super scummy?

All self-preservation, lack of answering questions about his vote on Han.

Lack of really anything.

Contradicts himself I don't know how to scum hunt to saying I am scum hunting within 2 post of eachother

I dont know how you think he is town let alone your top town read.

And chalking it up as being green I don't like that argument.

Another bad post. Hes contradicting himself, too, and expects me to be Chris level after only a game two, or something ridiculous. Hes challenging Han, confirmed town, and me, also definite town. Excuse me for trying to navigate the game and not playing it like Ive been doing it for years, because *gasp* IVE HARDLY PLAYED ANY MAFIA STOP EXPECTING ME TO BE A BADASS! I am green. That is why I make mistakes. For fucks sake.

He says in the next post that he doesnt want to focus on me, yet thats all he did for the first 2-3 days, and is confused as to how anyone can have me as a town read when Im talking way more than I did as scum (wanting to avoid a Tidus-like slip). He expects everyone sees what his gut says but his gut is just an excuse. Hes scum. Im town. I was confirmed town day 1.

Lopen responds to this by saying Im most certainly flustered, and that my scummy play is only on paper and that my motivations speak otherwise. Lopen also says Trying to say [I, BCT] would only care about being lynched as scum is disingenuous and Sultan responds to this saying that my self-preservation means I am scum. When, uh, hello? I just dont want to be lynched D1 again because Im green. How the hell do I get better at Mafia if I keep dying the first day/night cycle?

Hes also alarmed by SBell having similar thoughts to him, thoughts SBell later paid for by making the dopey suggestion to lynch me when only him and Sultan thought that made any sense. What makes no sense also is Sultan votes for Chang (T1P371) and doesnt justify it. Chang responds saying Sultan is now contradicting himself (he does this twice, and Sultan then tries to pass this off as a test like he thinks hes better at Mafia than he actually is) and also says Lopen is making sense and Kirby isnt. Worth noting.

Alright, were finally to topic 2.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

BCT has some leads and decent points but takes the safe way out Voting Mzero who hasn't showed up.. I mean that is fine I guess wish he had more conviction but I think he has a fire light under him now.

Could see this being town BCT, only think I dont like is why vote the inactive a when your other suspects are around to interact with.

This is in response to me voting MZero despite me clearly explaining that this was an attempt to make him panic regardless of his alignment should he come into the topic. Having two votes on you IS lighting a fire under somebody, whereas just one is whatever. Sultan fakes content by saying SBells post about how the same thing happens again is completely true and tries to suggest we talk about Poppys play but we dont have the data when hes town or scum, just third party.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Weird hunch and don't take it to seriously.

Scum is gonna be like red, Mzero, and like 1 other random and going to be a bitch to figure out.

MZero was replaced by Abacus, who is still alive, but what gets me is the implication of a three-person scum team. He was way off on Red and Im thinking he doesnt get balance all too well. Theres an irrelevant post about IGCD (who was replaced by Peaf) and some talk about the Plum slip, which would indicate that Sultan is scum and operating as if Plum were on his team since hes in scum chat.

Sultan is then quiet for most of the day, presumably busy which means hes probably scum by his own logic. What gets me is this (T2P293):

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If one of Ben and Kirby is Scum it is Ben.

Still could be town v town

I am. Yet to decide. Kirby I have a town lean on

This is weird since Ben was scum and Kirby is starting to look very fishy.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Han isn't a horrible lynch option tbh.

I still wouldn't mind a chang claim.

BCT has been rather quite since being sorta in the clear idk how I feel about that.

I had a crazy busy court full day at work so I am slightly behind have been mostly skimming

The terrible posts continue. Han IS a horrible lynch option for town, as I proved in Nickelodeon Mafia. Chang claiming on D1 despite being in no danger makes no sense. That Im quiet after being in the clear is natural, in part because I too was busy. Sultan again contradicts himself saying hes town despite being busy yet for the same reason I must be scum, ergo Sultan is scum trying to project. Han subsequently eviscerates him for these reasons. All Sultan says if you say so and again thinks somethings off about Han helping town.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You think I'm the best mafia player here, so you'd vote for me?
the fuck?

Han knows Sultan is scum at this point. And based on this ISO, its readily apparent after only two topics. Chang also says Sultans logic has been really whack and points out yet another contradiction in that Sultans first choice to lynch is Chang and his second choice is Han, whos leading the lynch on Chang. And then Sultan apparently forgot about his own passed my test comment and still was gung-ho on mislyching Chang. Sultan continues his fixations and refuses to change his mind, unlike me (note how Ive been very back-and-forth on Lopen this entire game), and also admits hes unable to explain his thoughts. Peaf accuses him of plagiarism, but Sultan defends saying I like SBell he has most of the same thoughts as me. Which, uh, doesnt clear anything?

End of topic 2.

Start of topic 3, Sultan continues to push my mislynch, solely based on gut, despite SBell taking heat for suggesting the same thing. Sultan knows SBell is town at this point and knows his suggestion is hugely harmful to town, so hes trying to run with it.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

##Vote:BCT

I have the biggest gut feeling he is scum 100%

This isnt justification when there are 7 minutes left in the day.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Trust me I know BCT is scum

Its even worse to say you know someone whos town is scum without providing anything of substance.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

BCT claim or Die

Why the hell would I claim at this point? I have two votes on me, several people saying theyre not voting for me, and there are four minutes left in the round. This is Sultan confirming beyond any doubt that he is scum. Hes hoping that, if I were a town power role, I would panic that Im dying (I wasnt panicking, I was simply frustrated) and claim to the detriment of town so scum could potentially kill me that night. I simply rebuked it, asking if anyone else wanted me to claim, and got no response.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Your pattern is what I picked up on. You hid then come in juat to save face then hid again. Then you get your name mentioned tou hop back in you did this in my game and braged well bragged is a strong word. But you said that was your strategy youre doing this again!

So, I was busy, and that means I hid yet Sultan was busy and that meant he was town. Another contradiction. He's admitting to being scum here. If Im scum for not having time, then why isnt he? It makes no sense. Neither does his late vote change for Ctes, someone whom hed never been on the case of before. Probably because thats what the scum chat told him to do to spread their votes between the two townies getting the most votes.

Start of Day 2, Sultans first post is telling me that my logic doesnt confirm Im town again with the obsessiveness and doesnt explain why. Amateurism. A professional would be like You do realize that could be a scum gambit, spend gems to stage it, yes? instead of just being mean. Again, Sultan thinks town should be aggressive instead of helpful. He wants town to destroy itself. Sultan then votes me and says Look at Lopen after BCT flips scum but, since Sultan knows Im actually town, hes trying to win the game for scum here.

He then wishes he had a gambler or vig shot. More harmful thoughts to town! You wish you had a vig shot so you could kill one of the most blatant townies and thus give the game to scum? At this point, I too wished I had a vig shot just to kill Sultan, because going over all this, its absolutely apparent that hes not on the same side as me. He doesnt seem to realize that, after all the D1 talk about me, that only scum would go after me at the start of D2, and I accuse him of being anti-town.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also was i the only one who knew that Sbell seemed pretty towny? I tried to save him but was to late and it wouldn't have mattered anyways im sorry Sbell.

A couple things here. One, knew SBell seemed towny is bad. Thats a slip! He knew SBell was town, even though SBell suggested something idiotic in lynching me despite over half the cast saying my frustration was indicative of town behavior. SBell made a very harmful suggestion and town just jumped down his throat. It wasnt just suspecting me. It was saying Lets just go with the easy lynch when that wasnt an easy lynch at all, and wouldnt have told town much of anything. Worth noting: Kirby seconded Sultans post about SBell.

Han then asks Sultan what his reads would be if I wasnt here, alongside implying that Sultan isnt a good scum player but is actually good as town. Sultan doesnt answer this; when he finally does, he talks a lot about me anyway. Hes obsessed. I propose the outlandish (and wrong) theory about Sultan implying day cop. But since Sultan is scum, this doesnt matter now. This, however, does:

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

As requested I have less scum reads then I do townish reads.

Chang and Han id have as much suspected list after BCT.

Han Is just a feeling somethings just seems off but I don't know what that is. Han I think has looked better so far today but it is not anything to move off the vibe list.

Chang I still think something is there I've provided this argument a few different times.

Lopen I think keeps protecting BCT which is odd.

I am pretty sure. The following are town

Kirby
Frog
Poppy.

Other ????
Ben
Ctes
Abucs
Hb

If im looking hard at it
Ctes and Ben maybe more on the scum spectrum if I had to choose atm

He says Kirby and Poppy are both town, when we know Poppy wasnt, and Kirby is still one of the main suspects left. He also thinks it is odd that Lopen is protecting me, because of his own biases, despite him being asked to take me out of the equation. I accuse him of being scum over this; Sultan absolutely knows I am actually town. His gut on Han was because Han wasnt engaging in anti-town behaviors. This still baffles me.

Sultan next again says SBell was strongly town, and I call this a scum slip. To which he says:

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Then why would I care to try and save Sbell if I knew he was town and I was scum this makes 0 sense

What? He wants to look like hes town. I tell him thats what scum is supposed to do, and he says he could have stayed on Chang to look innocent (T3P420). This is suspect to me now. Does this mean Chang is scum? Is his role legit but hes lying about his alignment?

(more in a little)

That went as I expected. Hopefully there's good news on the scan.

My update:

I sent one Pot of Greed at Kirby. Looks like he replaced the trap so it didn't activate? so idk if he was lying or not.

Peaf did buy a Ghost Belle, so that's what I set active.
Poppy had two Lightning Storms in his graveyard which are in my hand now. For now I don't plan on using them.

Current Hand: Two Pot of Greeds, Two Lightning Storms, One Crossout
Active Trap: Ghost Belle

and lastly IMPORTANT

poppy was ninja and is dead now. i have to imagine that was the counterplay that scum had to ghost belle.
i don't think we should reveal who our ghost belles are on in case we weren't very coordinated and they're like, all pointed at the same person or something. if scum knows there are gaps they can kill around them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiuyhxp4w9I&ab_channel=Delak

ok that is a big wall of text that i will read later tonight because i'm watching T1 vs RNG in league of legends for the next several hours.

oh come on its age-restricted now

lame

anyway I scanned Kirby, his result was town

Wow BCT came to lay trying to get me Misslynched where was this fire earlier

Also I have a back up plan

changmas posted...

ok that is a big wall of text that i will read later tonight because i'm watching T1 vs RNG in league of legends for the next several hours.

Hey, I said I'd do an off-day ISO of Sultan, so I did. Still working on it (through topic 4).

Hbthebattle posted...

anyway I scanned Kirby, his result was town

Intriguing. So, since I'm town, that means scum comes from this pool:

2. Changmas
3. Kirby
4. Lopen
5. Sultan
6. ViolentAbacus

Lopen has been trying to figure the game out and I've come around on him.

Sultan is blatant scum.

Kirby and Abacus both scan town, so one might be Godfather.

Or Chang's role could be legit, but he's scum.

Ugh @_@

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Wow BCT came to lay trying to get me Misslynched where was this fire earlier

You're scum though, and I came to prove that.

changmas posted...

poppy was ninja and is dead now. i have to imagine that was the counterplay that scum had to ghost belle.

Scum has one counterplay to Ghost Belle regardless

And that is if scum uses Ghost Belle on their target then they can fake being watcher

So if someone's ghost belle flips, don't just assume it's the truth. You need to determine the logic and such behind laying down the trap

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Hey, I said I'd do an off-day ISO of Sultan, so I did. Still working on it (through topic 4).

Intriguing. So, since I'm town, that means scum comes from this pool:

Lopen has been trying to figure the game out and I've come around on him.

Sultan is blatant scum.

Kirby and Abacus both scan town, so one might be Godfather.

Or Chang's role could be legit, but he's scum.

Ugh @_@

You're scum though, and I came to prove that.

But I am not scum lol.

But hey if my read is wrong this is the shit you gotta do my man

Also I sent pot at Kirby and Chang. Doesn't mean anything with either because I was told that if someone sells their trap at night the pot won't be crossed out and Chang laid down Ghost Belle.

Do we have a claim from abacus and Changs full claim? Just for data perrpous

was really hoping hb would scan Sultan. Ugh. Hard to figure the game out now. Kirby as GF slots much better than Sultan as GF.

Hbthebattle posted...

oh come on its age-restricted now

lame

anyway I scanned Kirby, his result was town

if that's the case then i'm back to thinking likely BCT, outside chance of Sultan for the remaining one who scans scum. I was leaning BCT as a result of the Poppy interactions but I'd like to devote real attention to reading his big wall here / rest of the game later and do my due diligence.

In the meantime I have a couple questions for Sultan:

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also I have a back up plan

What's the backup plan? And what (if any) cards did you buy last night?

Lopen posted...

was really hoping hb would scan Sultan. Ugh. Hard to figure the game out now. Kirby as GF slots much better than Sultan as GF.

I considered it, but I decided that since you + Kirby is more logical of a scumteam than Sultan + BCT as a scumteam, it was more valuable to get that information out there.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Do we have a claim from abacus and Changs full claim? Just for data perrpous

My full claim is somewhere in the middle of the last topic, shortly after everyone else claimed. I don't have the exact post number but it shouldn't be too hard to find

The big thing that I'm trying to figure out is how BCT plays this game based on town vs scum w Sultan vs scum w Kirby

I think he is not good enough at acting for his frustration to not be genuine. The problem is I could see genuine frustration from 3 different angles.

ok im gonna dip out for a few hours now but I will be back tonight and tomorrow with my full undivided attention

Fuck it's lopen BCT

Isn't it

Oh I'm guessing Chang got no info since hb didn't die die or do I not quite know how his power works

I think me x BCT makes more sense than me x Kirby. I legit don't understand why hb is suggesting me x Kirby.

Anyway I'm going to recommend we no-kill today.

I'm thinking it has to be BCT x Kirby or Sultan x Kirby though. BCT x Sultan really only makes sense if BCT is frustrated by Sultan's relentless bussing of him which seems unlikely to me.

Lopen posted...

I think me x BCT makes more sense than me x Kirby. I legit don't understand why hb is suggesting me x Kirby.

That is what I thought to thats why I think it's tou and BCT.

But a God Father

Would Abacus make sense or would Kirby make sense.

I'm thinking if it is Abacus we're kinds fucked

Hbthebattle posted...

Anyway I'm going to recommend we no-kill today.

If we dawdle scum starts lightning storming our traps.

Lopen posted...

I think me x BCT makes more sense than me x Kirby. I legit don't understand why hb is suggesting me x Kirby.

It was the possible combinations of scans I was thinking of. Abacus is obviously out, and Chang's claim looks very believable so he wasn't super considered either. You, Kirby, BCT, Sultan - those were who I was considering.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

People I'd lynch today.

I'm not super super around and I'm sorry but

I'd lynch
BCT -I'm still pretty sure I got home pegged but no one else wants to listen and that is fine

Chang-ive explained it. It actually looks a bit worse today, Chang has other evidenced against him others that have pointed out. I could go back and pin point those if I have the time.

Ctes- I have no strong indication they are town. In a POE I could see it. And alot of other people thought he was scum.

Han-he is off to me this game and maybe It's nothing but I just got some vibes

Lopen would be an interesting option but I don't wanna do that I think I may be just annoyed he is protecting BCT mostly fot new player reasons it sounds like.

Ive had enough of these bad posts. Im town. Ctes and Han were town. Lopen is probably town my accordioning views on him notwithstanding. Is there something were missing about Chang? Thats starting to get my attention here. And Lopen tells Sultan he needs to learn to read because Lopen stopped defending me D2. Sultan shows again that he didnt need to read the game. His scumbuddies can catch him up.

Start of topic 4, Sultan is pressuring HB to full claim after being confused about what happened. Sultan shows hes bad at reading. HB claims cop and that Abacus is town, and Sultan says its not a bad scan.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I am actually mostly moved on im not pushing the lynch activity. If people want to believe that I caught you being scum that is fine.
You're not confirmed town and you keep pushing that agenda that you are.

I'm going to keep you my vote on you for now sure.

He says hes moved on from me even though his vote is still on me and I must still be scum. He unvotes me exactly two hours later, then theorizes who would kill Red N1 and thinks its Han. Which is wrong; Han points this out immediately, and Sultan thinks hes just getting his names mixed up. His hunch about Ctes right after is equally wrong. Peaf also says that Sultan cant have different logic based on timing when Han and Peaf voted in quick succession. Sultan isnt thinking things through and is just trying to fake content.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Well I tell you hawt

Han points this fake content out from EoD1 and asks why Sultan would waste a post on that, to which Sultan replies I dunno. Han jumps down his throat and Sultan says he was busy counting votes and yet he made that post? Contradictions galore. When Han asks what Sultan would do D3 when I, BCT, got lynched D2 and flipped town, Sultan just says hed be looked at heavily and doesnt actually answer the question. Its like hes at Tribal Council trying to avoid clueing the true target in. This is not good. Everybody knows this. A bunch of others, including Kirby, myself, Ben, and Chang, all just grill him.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Who ever told me to play this game when I said I probably shouldn't I hate you.

I have been insanely busy the past few days and haven't been able to really pay my most attention to said game. I was thinking about replacing but we already had 2.

Anyways i will claim at anyone's request to hopefully clear things up for alot of people

So he keeps saying hes busy, yet for the same reasons, I must be scum. This is totally fake content. I call him out on this after he says hell get off my case. Hes been nothing but an annoyance this game. He suggests Han as a backup lynch swinging for the fences, and Han asks why because nobody whos town would want to lynch him. He says its probably from the scum chat, and Sultan says he Scummoned Han and myself, both of whom are town.

He then asks me why Im on Peaf (retaliation to see if Peafs legit) and thinks Peaf is a decent direction to look. He doesnt realize that Id unvoted, nor does he forgive that I am still claiming Im a noob and have legitimately zero clue on how to read people in this fracas.

That is it for topic 4. Im not seeing much meaningful content and just accusations and trying to see what sticks.

In topic 5, after wasting a post asking "should I say it?" without specifying what "it" is, Sultan outright refuses to claim, a stark contrast to D1 when he said he'd claim for no reason.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also Han being the night kill is super helpful to me. Takes that could of judgement away

Nobody who's town would make this post. Literally nobody.

Sultan then forgets that HB scanned Abacus town, says he's not day cop, and then posts this:
TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Hmm just a thought is there any chance HB is lying here?
Not role blocked and left alive?

But he is un-countered..

And then he suggests a potential third party, when there's literally no reason to suspect that at this point. Scum got an extra kill, that's it. He really seems to be posting fluff here and these comments are completely unsubstantiated. He theorizes that scum might not have a role blocker since nobody's claiming that they were blocked (entirely possible scum just hit vanillas with that), then goes after Lopen for "acting like he did in Kingmaker." I did the same. Lopen is just like that, town or scum. That's partly why I've come around on him and think he's town now. I've waffled a lot there.

Sultan asks me why I'd think it's a 4-man team and not a 3. Which... there'd need to be an overpowered 3-man scum team in this case, given how that's only 20% of the player list. From what we've seen, scum isn't that OP. He also buys into Ben's bogus Exodia claim and Lopen calls him out:
Lopen posted...

Sultan doubling down

This is Sultan faking being "incoherent" or whatever.

I refuse to believe Sultan put me on the for sure scum list unless he's day cop and I was potted yesterday. And I think that's what he was going to fakeclaim.

Lopen then tricks Sultan into claiming and he claims vanilla, which completely goes against all his prior actions, and tries to backpedal. Then Sultan votes Lopen despite having said Lopen was "confirmed scum." I'm aware I don't look good in this entire situation, either, but it was just me trying to get a feel for everything. It wasn't exactly ideal, now was it?

That's topic 5. But I've seen enough.

In short, die scum.

##vote: Sultan

Also Baught monster reborn

anyway didnt abacus have a ghost belle
why didn't he set it?

Hbthebattle posted...

anyway didnt abacus have a ghost belle
why didn't he set it?

He set it yesterday and tried to target Peaf thinking you would die yesterday and it failed

So he did set a ghost belle, he just retargeted it today.

ahh

why didn't it trigger, then? I'm confused on how it works

Hbthebattle posted...

It was the possible combinations of scans I was thinking of. Abacus is obviously out, and Chang's claim looks very believable so he wasn't super considered either. You, Kirby, BCT, Sultan - those were who I was considering.

Gosh, I wish you'd scanned me so I'd have come back town.

This really is genuine frustration that nobody's listening to me. Sultan is very blatant scum, and I hope I've outlined it all the correct way. This is because I care to win the game for town.

And because I care, I set down a Ghost Belle. Won't say on who so scum doesn't know. They gotta try to find somebody who doesn't have those tied to them... if we get there, because we're at MYLO. I want to kill scum. Sultan is scum.

BCT and who
Bct and Chang?
Bct and Lopen.

Or a Godfather at play.
BCT Kirby
BCT Abacus

Or did BCT and I Master class the fuck outta this and it's me and BCT.

Hbthebattle posted...

why didn't it trigger, then? I'm confused on how it works

Pretty sure if Abacus tied it to you the night that Peaf died that he'd find out who visited you.

Also Lopen, please unvote me. Am I not clearly town to you yet?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

BCT and who
Bct and Chang?
Bct and Lopen.

Or a Godfather at play.
BCT Kirby
BCT Abacus

Or did BCT and I Master class the fuck outta this and it's me and BCT.

Your fixation on me wins the game for scum. I am 0% scum and now I regret putting all that effort to expose one of the remaining scum.

I'm leaving now, bye.

Hbthebattle posted...

why didn't it trigger, then? I'm confused on how it works

So you pick the target at night phase but it (and spell cards) targets during start of day

So if you target someone at night who dies then your targeting fails.

This happened when I pot of greeded Han that's why I know how it works.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Your fixation on me wins the game for scum. I am 0% scum and now I regret putting all that effort to expose one of the remaining scum.

I'm leaving now, bye.

Spoken like he knows I'm town ???

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Spoken like he knows I'm town ???

No. I know you're scum.

But BCT if im scum that is the point of the game isn't it? I am all kinds of confused by this statement

To my fellow townies,

I am sorry. I don't know what else I could have done, nor do I know why people keep accusing me, or why I keep hitting myself in frustration. It's painful.

Truly yours,
BCT