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CRON
10/09/22 5:29:23 PM
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The entire franchise was meant for children and families. If you don't like the new trilogy, that doesn't mean whichever trilogy you like just ceases to exist.
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Homeless_Waifu
10/09/22 5:35:21 PM
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Cause it's so dumb
Why tf does ray throw away Luke's lightsaber? WTF, that's so dumb.
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Turtlemayor333
10/09/22 6:14:48 PM
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The George Lucas special editions do erase the originals to an extent

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VampireCoyote
10/09/22 6:20:08 PM
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probably because most Star Wars fans are whiny and bratty and dont like anything

Star Wars is also a total mess of a franchise and always has been so all fans have their own different idea of what Star Wars SHOULD be

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DespondentDeity
10/09/22 6:29:16 PM
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Cuz theyre not real fans

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Rharyx211
10/09/22 6:30:38 PM
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I haven't seen any Star Wars film, but I remember reading it was mainly because the new trilogy wasn't actually planned out and just had shit writing that didn't understand their own characters.

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Ar0ge
10/09/22 6:32:18 PM
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Because it's bad?

Has nothing to do with being made for kids. Tons of kid movies are actually good.

The ST was not.
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Beveren_Rabbit
10/09/22 6:35:24 PM
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It takes years to master using a lightsaber. You can't just pick up one up like it's a regular sword and start fighting, but Rey does it anyway.

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dameon_reaper
10/09/22 6:36:52 PM
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The only movie I felt was terrible was 9 and because they were using it to back step everything they did in 8 which infuriated me.
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MedeaLysistrata
10/09/22 6:37:18 PM
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no idea. when i played final fantasy 14 I made a female character. on top of that, i didn't get special treatment from anyone unless that's not what the community is like.

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Turtlemayor333
10/09/22 6:37:51 PM
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Ar0ge posted...
Because it's bad?
The biggest thing that proves the new movies are actually bad and it's not just an agenda or fanboys being impossible to please is how the exact opposite happened with the MCU.

Dudes have been losing their minds (in a good way) over the MCU for like 15 years. Pleasing fanbases ain't that difficult when it's done right.

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theAteam
10/09/22 6:37:51 PM
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I just didn't like taking this Snope character and killing him off and then running with the zombie Palpatine thing. I get it was due to multiple directors with different visions but man they butchered whatever 3 movie arc they had going with that.

I don't hate the movies by themselves though and I'm glad there's a newer trilogy instead of nothing.

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CRON
10/09/22 6:39:57 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
Dudes have been losing their minds (in a good way) over the MCU for like 15 years. Pleasing fanbases ain't that difficult when it's done right.
To be fair, MCU fans will lose their minds at literally anything involving recognizable IP. These are people that get excited to see two and a half seconds of Ultra Dude in the post-credits scene of Avengers 12.

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dameon_reaper
10/09/22 6:41:20 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
no idea. when i played final fantasy 14 I made a female character. on top of that, i didn't get special treatment from anyone unless that's not what the community is like.

where the fuck did this come from?
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Kim_Seong-a
10/09/22 6:41:51 PM
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Honestly, as fun as it is to shit on all the parts I don't like, at the end of the day they're just fucking boring and unimaginative movies. Rise of Skywalker fades to black and it's like, that's it. I don't even slightly care about the galaxy or anything in it at that point, lol. >_>

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dameon_reaper
10/09/22 6:43:27 PM
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CRON posted...
To be fair, MCU fans will lose their minds at literally anything involving recognizable IP. These are people that get excited to see two and a half seconds of Ultra Dude in the post-credits scene of Avengers 12.

Those same people ruined the MCU for me because now every character has to be a joke or funny.
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CRON
10/09/22 6:44:30 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
Those same people ruined the MCU for me because now every character has to be a joke or funny.
I'd honestly be open to tolerating MCU movies if they weren't filled with the samey quirky banter.
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VeggetaX
10/09/22 6:45:08 PM
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TC knows why already. He's a self admitted pessimistic

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Rharyx211
10/09/22 6:45:16 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
Those same people ruined the MCU for me because now every character has to be a joke or funny.
This is why I only enjoy stuff like Eternals, Werewolf by Night, and Moon Knight these days.

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CRON
10/09/22 6:47:16 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
TC knows why already. He's a self admitted pessimistic
I really don't understand why. Each SW trilogy serves its purpose. The sequel trilogy exists to get a new generation (of children) into the franchise, and more inclined to buy merchandise.

I watched them and they're not that bad.
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dameon_reaper
10/09/22 6:47:17 PM
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Rharyx211 posted...
This is why I only enjoy stuff like Eternals, Werewolf by Night, and Moon Knight these days.

I wouldn't mention Moon Knight to my best friend lol. He loves Moon Knight comics and absolutely hates the show.

CRON posted...
I'd honestly be open to tolerating MCU movies if they weren't filled with the samey quirky banter.

I was fine with it up until Thor Ragnarok and was absolutely appalled how they did my dude, Thor, dirty. People complained because of the first two movies and that's fine but I didn't think the direction to take him was into a comedy. I felt like it would have been perfectly fine to find a director and a writing staff that could pull off a decent epic.

Its not hard.

They made Lord of the Rings after all.

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Southernfatman
10/09/22 6:47:37 PM
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I kinda hate how many people assume you're one of the toxic whiny neckbeard type of SW fans if you dare not like the ST and TLJ in particular.

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dameon_reaper
10/09/22 6:49:00 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
I kinda hate how many people assume you're one of the toxic whiny neckbeard type of SW fans if you dare not like the ST and TLJ in particular.

Actually, I think its nothing like that. When someone says they like the new trilogy, its those toxic whiny neckbeard types who tend to be so eager to bitch at you for liking it. The toxic star wars fans are those who can't let you enjoy something because they don't like it.

At least that's how I feel.
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Southernfatman
10/09/22 6:51:53 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
Actually, I think its nothing like that. When someone says they like the new trilogy, its those toxic whiny neckbeard types who tend to be so eager to bitch at you for liking it. The toxic star wars fans are those who can't let you enjoy something because they don't like it.

At least that's how I feel.

You're not wrong about that. While I don't necessarily "get" why people like it, I don't dislike people for doing so. I think it just shows that fanboys and haters are just two sides of the same coin.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
10/09/22 6:52:27 PM
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The for children is not an excuse. You have the biggest movie franchise of all time and you dont have a story skeleton for the trilogy and you decide to wing it and changing the story movie to movie based on "fan" reactions. Also RoS exists with lines such as "somehow palpatine returned".

If people keep consuming such low bait garbage as RoS youre setting a bad precedent that we'll just consume whatever piece of shit theyll throw at people.

Also Force awakens and TLJ were okay movies character/lore stuff aside.

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MedeaLysistrata
10/09/22 6:56:14 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
where the fuck did this come from?
because some people don't like Rey. no one is going to voice that opinion here. i wonder if they will do another trilogy eventually, and if that will actually be The Last Jedi

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rexcrk
10/09/22 6:56:57 PM
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It didnt go the way they wanted / expected, it was different from the (never-canon) books, have their heads up their asses over politics, etc. etc.


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dameon_reaper
10/09/22 6:57:31 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
because some people don't like Rey. no one is going to voice that opinion here. i wonder if they will do another trilogy eventually, and if that will actually be The Last Jedi

It felt out of place of the whole topic lol. I thought it was meant for another topic.
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Ar0ge
10/09/22 6:59:41 PM
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For the record, I was ok with the trilogy until episode 9 fucked it all up.

Now I have no urge to ever watch any of them again.

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Proto_Spark
10/09/22 7:10:00 PM
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The people who hate Star Wars the most is always Star Wars fans.

But also because the ST was a disjointed awkward mess that showed Disney saw Star Wars as another Marvel and didn't actually care about a cohesive story in any way shape or form.

TFA was actually a pretty good start - it retread a lot of ground from a New Hope, but was still enough of its own movie and very directly set up a platform for the rest of the trilogy to go in a different direction.

TLJ went in that new direction and at the very least, had an interesting and different set up for the final movie and could have led to a really good finale. I'm just gonna leave it there because I Don't care if you didn't like TLJ.

But then TRoS threw everything away in an attempt to pander to the crowd that would hate the movie regardless. Threw away literally everything that could have been used to make a decent story from the previous 2 movies, randomly brought Palpatine back because they wanted our little Incel school shooter to get a redemption he didn't deserve, and the single most awkward kiss in the entire series (which let me remind you, has a kiss between 2 siblings), and speaking of pandering to incel shit, downgrading Rose from "secondary supporting character to give Finn something to do that isn't try to **** Rey" to "rebel with a line of dialogue".

Poe and Finn both get downgraded to paling around with Rey while she goes on a scavenger hunt, stupid BS like pretending Rey killed Chewie and then immediately saying lol nvm, and FUCKING PALPATINE

If TRoS at least tried to continue from TLJ instead of ignore it, I think the whole thing would be remembered more fondly.
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11110111011
10/09/22 7:23:06 PM
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Because it is so, so bad.
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Turtlemayor333
10/09/22 7:23:07 PM
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I'm a big shill for Abrams and I used to have the opinion that Force Awakens was "a good foundation" as people like to argue, but honestly other than the idea of Finn it added nothing.

Last Jedi was a weirdo subversive arthouse project by Johnson.

Then people act like it was a surprise that Rise was bad, rather than an expected result after the prior two movies were also bad.

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lennethsoki
10/09/22 7:28:41 PM
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Vito's videos on The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker are hilariously on-point at pointing at just how bad they are.

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IShall_Run_Amok
10/09/22 7:30:38 PM
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Groupthink and aggressive media illiteracy is the source of a lot of the backlash.

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Xethuminra
10/09/22 7:31:47 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Groupthink and aggressive media illiteracy is the source of a lot of the backlash.
Quoted for truth

People go see the movie just to form an opinion, $$$$

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Ar0ge
10/09/22 7:32:58 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
The people who hate Star Wars the most is always Star Wars fans.

But also because the ST was a disjointed awkward mess that showed Disney saw Star Wars as another Marvel and didn't actually care about a cohesive story in any way shape or form.

TFA was actually a pretty good start - it retread a lot of ground from a New Hope, but was still enough of its own movie and very directly set up a platform for the rest of the trilogy to go in a different direction.

TLJ went in that new direction and at the very least, had an interesting and different set up for the final movie and could have led to a really good finale. I'm just gonna leave it there because I Don't care if you didn't like TLJ.

But then TRoS threw everything away in an attempt to pander to the crowd that would hate the movie regardless. Threw away literally everything that could have been used to make a decent story from the previous 2 movies, randomly brought Palpatine back because they wanted our little Incel school shooter to get a redemption he didn't deserve, and the single most awkward kiss in the entire series (which let me remind you, has a kiss between 2 siblings), and speaking of pandering to incel shit, downgrading Rose from "secondary supporting character to give Finn something to do that isn't try to **** Rey" to "rebel with a line of dialogue".

Poe and Finn both get downgraded to paling around with Rey while she goes on a scavenger hunt, stupid BS like pretending Rey killed Chewie and then immediately saying lol nvm, and FUCKING PALPATINE

If TRoS at least tried to continue from TLJ instead of ignore it, I think the whole thing would be remembered more fondly.

This is pretty much exactly how I feel. And like I've said, it really ruined the rest of the trilogy for me where I don't want to so any of the three films ever again.
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Ryven
10/09/22 7:34:33 PM
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Ar0ge posted...
For the record, I was ok with the trilogy until episode 9 fucked it all up.

Now I have no urge to ever watch any of them again.


You made it farther than I did. I was okay with 7 but then Last Jedi came along abd I was done. Never saw Rise Of Skywalker but ive seen enough chatter to know id rather not waste my time with it.

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DKBananaSlamma
10/09/22 7:35:07 PM
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The prequels mostly sucked but they had fantastic world building and memorable scenes and music. Everything in the new trilogy feels so soulless. Barely remember any of the scenes, don't remember any of the music, and the worlds aren't fleshed out at all and are pretty forgettable >_> I can't believe I'm saying this but I would take the prequels over the sequels every time

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xGhostchantx
10/09/22 7:44:45 PM
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Despite my thinking it was creatively bankrupt, I enjoyed TFA for the most part. Then TLJ shat all over that. Then tRoS shat all over that. Each movie took a steaming shit on the last.

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cjsdowg
10/09/22 7:45:28 PM
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I hate because it became twilight in space, was racist, made Luke into an asshole.

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comicfire
10/09/22 7:49:18 PM
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I liked the first two and figured RoS would just be fanfic to try to win back people who didnt like TLJ.

And boy, did I call it!

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YellowSUV
10/09/22 7:53:56 PM
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TFA - soft and safe reboot of A New Hope

TLJ - subverting expectations just because

TROS - just a terrible film

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YellowSUV
10/09/22 7:58:32 PM
#43:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
It takes years to master using a lightsaber. You can't just pick up one up like it's a regular sword and start fighting, but Rey does it anyway.

Never found this to be a problem. The movies never establish lightsabers require special training. Rey already has fighting experience with a staff.

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BakonBitz
10/09/22 8:03:56 PM
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I didn't think it was terrible at all either, though Rise of Skywalker essentially ruined whatever it might have been building up by majorly course-correcting just because of TLJ's mixed reception.

They're entertaining and well-acted movies by themselves certainly, which is more than I would say for the prequel trilogy. But as a whole the continuity is fucked. And there are some things about TLJ that don't quite hold up to scrutiny in terms of writing, but I did appreciate what it tried to do.

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IShall_Run_Amok
10/09/22 8:18:00 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
Never found this to be a problem. The movies never establish lightsabers require special training. Rey already has fighting experience with a staff.
I recall Luke Skywalker learning to block bullets with a lightsaber after like two minutes of screen-time training while wearing a blinder. This is because basic lightsabers don't require special training. Anything from fan-fiction novels or the prequels or George Lucas himself is directly contradicted by literal Star Wars itself.

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xGhostchantx
10/09/22 8:22:22 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I recall Luke Skywalker learning to block bullets with a lightsaber after like two minutes of screen-time training while wearing a blinder. This is because basic lightsabers don't require special training. Anything from fan-fiction novels or the prequels or George Lucas himself is directly contradicted by literal Star Wars itself.

It wasn't even an EU thing, outside of special "forms". They are literally plug n' play.

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ChocoboMog123
10/09/22 8:26:43 PM
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This bait is such low quality and yet you have "Star Wars fans" freaking out over it, great job TC. Just like the ST.

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lightwarrior78
10/09/22 8:39:24 PM
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Why does someone aska question that's been answers a few million times?

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ultimate_reaver
10/09/22 8:40:17 PM
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I thought the first one was a kind of boring but ok space adventure movie. The second I found full of annoying characters and plot contrivances that entirely rotate around people just not communicating with each other, which is maybe my least favorite cliche in fiction where they have multiple chances to avert disaster with a 5 minute conversation but never do.

Then the insane backlash culture war bullshit started and the horse was beaten so far past death that I just stopped paying attention to star wars entirely. I still haven't seen the third one

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Imit8m3
10/09/22 9:00:31 PM
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Ar0ge posted...
For the record, I was ok with the trilogy until episode 9 fucked it all up.

Now I have no urge to ever watch any of them again.


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